#archiveteam-bs 2012-06-12,Tue

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01:34 🔗 dashcloud anyone seen or plan to back this project? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1352739150/this-is-the-scene
02:09 🔗 primus_ interesting, thanks for the link
03:11 🔗 underscor that's very cool
03:11 🔗 underscor pledged
03:12 🔗 shaqfu Kickstarter?
03:13 🔗 underscor <dashcloud> anyone seen or plan to back this project? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1352739150/this-is-the-scene
03:13 🔗 shaqfu And today's "what the fuck" moment: a job ad that required "micro-computer" upkeep exp
03:13 🔗 Angantyr don't forget to fund my project, it's where i film the people making This is the Scene making This is the Scene.
03:13 🔗 shaqfu Hah
03:14 🔗 shaqfu Looks neat, but...eh, the drama
03:15 🔗 shaqfu Although, that makes it even better as a book
05:01 🔗 S[h]O[r]T underscor ill probably be donating
06:03 🔗 Angantyr http://archive.org/download/scm-33062-michaelhuesemanntechno-fixwhyt/piratetv_12_4_23_huesemann.ogv
06:03 🔗 Angantyr good lecture for the bored
06:54 🔗 Coderjoe lol. as far as the twitter archiving: http://www.getshitter.com
07:50 🔗 bsmith094 as far as stuff i have from torrrents, mostly documentaries, does anybody want that?
07:52 🔗 ersi answer is always yes
07:52 🔗 ersi how many times to I have to repeat that :)
08:16 🔗 bsmith094 ersi: all together they're 18gb, im looking to clear off some space, so upload all at once to IA or piecemeal?
08:17 🔗 ersi bsmith094: Be friendly and do searches for the items firstly
08:17 🔗 bsmith094 ergh, fine :)
08:19 🔗 winr4r morning
14:09 🔗 SmileyG :D
14:09 🔗 SmileyG \o/ I made the topic x2
14:10 🔗 SmileyG Seriously though. Solar flares fuck yo' shit up
14:22 🔗 joepie91 lol
14:37 🔗 DoubleJ Anyway, joepie91: When Ubuntu Server automounts a drive it mounts it read-only. If you umount it you can then mount -o defaults and it should be read-write.
14:37 🔗 DoubleJ (Well, USB drive that is. For internals I think they default to rw)
14:38 🔗 joepie91 I'm refering to servers
14:38 🔗 joepie91 :p
14:38 🔗 joepie91 that remounted the filesystem of the VPSes as readonly
14:39 🔗 DoubleJ Oh. no friggin' idea then. Given that it's Linux it's probably doing something stupid like misdetecting them, and thinking they're externals, but the actual problem/solution are beyond me.
18:45 🔗 ersi DoubleJ: No, you're probably way of there.
18:45 🔗 ersi A filesystem re-mounted as read-only is usually not a good indicator, I'd check `dmesg` to see if there's any I/O Errors or such
18:47 🔗 SmileyG joepie91: dell servers?
18:47 🔗 SmileyG randomly turned RO?
18:47 🔗 SmileyG = failing perc card in my experience.
18:47 🔗 SmileyG the ram on two of the cards failed. ON THE SAME DAY!
18:47 🔗 ersi Yeah, you know your way through probability and statistics I see
18:48 🔗 ersi could never have anything to do with the usage, nope sir, never
18:48 🔗 SmileyG hmmm
18:48 🔗 ersi like a retard sysadmin
18:48 🔗 ersi \:D/
18:48 🔗 SmileyG well there wasn't much going on that day.
18:48 🔗 SmileyG and they were seperate servers, doing seperate unrelated tasks
18:48 🔗 SmileyG ersi: of course it can happen. it could of been the electric too.
18:48 🔗 ersi "I BOUGHT THIS SEAGATE HARD DRIVE AND IT FAILED AFTER LIKE, ONLY TWO YEARS. I HATE SEAGATE, DONT BUY DEM"
18:48 🔗 ersi same thing ^
18:48 🔗 SmileyG ersi: lulz.
18:49 🔗 SmileyG Not really.
18:49 🔗 SmileyG Do you see me hating on dell?
18:49 🔗 SmileyG I've had hdds fail from pretty much every manufacturer.
18:49 🔗 SmileyG I also know why to not run raid6 on more than 3-4 drives.
18:49 🔗 ersi It read like you said "I hate dell, they make shitty perc cards because my two out of the bazillions made died". but maybe I read too much into your lines :P
18:49 🔗 SmileyG ersi: haha nah.
18:50 🔗 SmileyG I'm actually quite supportive of dell, concidering some of the stories i've heard
18:50 🔗 SmileyG As a end user, my dell laptop when i got it all those years ago was well built, powerful and reasonably priced.
18:50 🔗 SmileyG The support at work has been generally very good.
18:51 🔗 SmileyG The issue of getting one of the perc cards replaced was annoying and drawn out, simply because we couldn't replicate the error, but other than that they've been very good.
18:51 🔗 ersi Yeah, that can always be frustrating
18:51 🔗 SmileyG How do you prove its not going to fail? ;~)
18:51 🔗 ersi I know, I'm a sw tester xD
18:52 🔗 ersi Everything fails, sooner or later
18:52 🔗 SmileyG That was my problem..... it would fail to write for hours (infact it managed a week) from running on teh cache.
18:52 🔗 ersi Question is how often :)
18:52 🔗 SmileyG Yup, our server stayed up a week without writing to the hdd ¬_¬
18:53 🔗 SmileyG How do you write a test that proves you've written to the hdd, when you can't use write-through mode?
18:53 🔗 SmileyG sync every 10 min "just in case" ?
18:53 🔗 SmileyG XD
18:57 🔗 ersi Uh, no - that seems very silly
18:57 🔗 ersi Also, don't you have redundancy? ;o or was it two perc cards, one in each host?
18:59 🔗 ersi but I don't know your case/scenario. It does seem you're talking about testing it in operation though, more like a sysadmin ^ :)
19:02 🔗 SmileyG yah redudancy
19:02 🔗 SmileyG one card failed in one of the 4 servers
19:02 🔗 SmileyG and another failed elsewhere, in naother set of db archives iirc
19:03 🔗 SmileyG however my boss is erm.... a problem ;)
19:03 🔗 SmileyG Basically because the box was up, it carried on doing its thing
19:10 🔗 ersi yeah, gotcha

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