[00:02] Off-topic, but dear God it's hard to get in touch with state libraries [00:02] 5-7 days for reference :( [00:05] one does not complain about offtopic in the offtopic channel [00:05] sounds like A-class bureaucracy [00:05] The offtopic is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding offtopic [00:06] I'm just hoping I don't forget to alter the state name in my canned question [00:07] heh, what are you working on? [00:07] Someone asked the archives listserv if there's a list of dates of incorporation of every US city [00:07] And there isn't [00:07] that sounds like a lot of work. [00:08] I suggested scraping Wikipedia for it, but it's really spotty - only about 50% coverage [00:08] extant cities or all cities ever incorporated? [00:08] Extant for now [00:08] Let's keep this sane [00:08] hehehe [00:08] you might be interested in a friend of mine's project [00:08] Esp. since I want to toss it into a map and see if anything interesting comes out of it [00:08] e.g. cities following rivers/railroads/interstates [00:08] http://everydot.com/ [00:08] he photographed every named place in north dakota [00:09] the website says 300, which is wrong [00:09] Amazingly, there's one other guy trying a project like this [00:09] He's a goddamn *city astrologer* [00:09] http://www.flickr.com/photos/afiler/collections/72157602918645986/ [00:09] wat [00:09] what is a city astrologer [00:10] You can buy his database ($50) and see when your city was born and if it aligns to your celestial signs [00:10] whoa [00:10] http://garybrandastrology.com/city/CitiesOrder.html [00:10] He's also insanely incomplete [00:10] New Jersey alone has 566 incorporated places [00:12] And wow, that's an impressive project [00:12] there's a neighborhood in seattle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgetown,_Seattle which was a city for 6 years, just barely missing census enumeration by 2 weeks [00:13] so it was an actual city that never made it onto the census tallies; I wonder how many other similar places exist [00:13] That's why I'm avoiding the census [00:13] A lot can happen in ten years, esp. with westward expansion [00:13] but you're focusing on currently-extant places :) [00:13] True, but I'd like to be more granular than decades [00:13] censuses are good for establishing outer bounds for existence [00:15] True [00:17] Still, it'll be nice to see year-by-year expansion vs. a whole bunch of towns popping up in 1880 [00:18] With my luck, I'll get this, feed it into a map, and see nothing interesting come out of it [00:22] Oh, speaking of silly projects of mine - do you know of any sources for tracking down old HyperCard ebooks? [01:09] shaqfu: hmm, no idea. [01:10] I'll bother balrog next time he's on [01:26] I can't believe that okcupid's distance options are "anywhere", "within 100 miles", "within 50 miles" and "within 25 miles" [01:27] like, seriously, I live in a place with people, I don't want to go more than 5 miles to get laid [01:30] neat line to open my client on [01:30] :) [01:31] I aim to surprise and confuse [01:42] iirc, the tiger data sees updates more frequently than 10 years [01:43] though it won't really give you incorporation dates [01:55] I don't think there's a reliable national source; otherwise I'd probably see it on wikipedia [01:55] Instead of the piecemeal that's there [02:34] Fucking sigh; no such resource for Ohio. Am I crazy enough to email 88 local clerks, y/n [04:45] y [04:46] All this just to prove a point [04:51] sometimes the best projects were started to prove a point [04:53] GNU, for example [05:00] I suppose you're right [05:00] hadn't thought about that before [05:01] Someone asked on the archives listserv if such an index existed [05:01] Of 20 responses, 19 were fossils saying no, 1 was me going "no, but you could probably build it without much work" [05:01] "without much work" is starting to haunt me :( [05:01] hehehe [05:02] "without much work" is a very flexible phrase [05:03] I hoped that, by good fortune, it was all on Wikipedia and I could trivially scrape it [05:03] And for the ~18 that are, I can trivially scrape it [05:03] For the 30 that aren't (fuck AK/HI)... :( [05:04] well alaska only has 10 incorporated places anyway, right? [05:04] Probably [05:06] "The population was 0 at the 2000 census" [05:06] What the hell Alaska [05:08] Where is this? [05:08] "The population was 0" is not something I read about places often [05:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine,_Alaska [05:08] That is such an Alaskan town name. [05:11] I applied for a job in Alaska because it paid insanely well [05:11] But given that you have to drive to Anchorage every time you want to buy something... [05:12] I don't think I could live that way. [05:12] The way people do it is buying huge tracts of land, buying a prop plane, and flying around [05:12] Plenty of room to land [05:12] At least it paid well? I've seen jobs in Canada in northern Ontario communities paying pittances. [05:13] Oof [05:14] yeah if you're going to live in the middle of nowhere, they better pay at least enough to buy shit off amazon [05:14] And get destroyed by shipping [05:16] and being isolated from people, or with little to do but drink. high speed internet? hahahaa [05:19] and then you can work on writing a book. but i doubt publishers will buy a book full of "all work and no play makes jack a dull boy" [05:19] High-speed caribou [05:19] You'd be living Northern Exposure [05:21] High-speed caribou is the next-gen version of IP over avian carriers [05:23] You can use salmon, but while having fantastic up speed, they're useless down [05:23] ha! [14:10] starting to put up episodes of Pasokon Sunday (Japanese TV show about computers from the 1980s) http://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22Pasokon+Sunday%22 [14:40] How many episodes? [14:41] only around a dozen [14:42] I can make a collection [14:43] it ran weekly for several years so there ought to be hundreds but there just seem to be home vhs copies [14:48] Well, let's hope more show up [14:48] http://archive.org/movies/thumbnails.php?identifier=pasokon-sunday-emulation-soft is an adorable set of thumbnails [15:07] on the plus side you get the commercials [16:35] I like old commercials [16:37] so good http://archive.org/details/BEVLARA01 [16:57] is there a common saying for "(positively) anxiously awaiting your reply"? [16:57] for email [16:57] colloquial [16:58] Compulsively hitting the reload button, [17:00] Schbirid: Just "looking forward to your reply" is fine [17:01] perfect, haha [17:24] oh, ouch. avfs serving a 15GB tar.gz will eat a "bit" of cpu if files are accessed :(( [17:24] load average: 5.12, 4.77, 4.76 [17:25] well, poop [17:45] whoah microfiche score [19:35] oh no, load averages above 1! [19:35] this means your scheduler is doing its job! [19:36] good evening, folks :) [19:36] DFJustin: do explain :D [19:37] https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles [19:40] DFJustin: holy god [19:40] i've been busy all day so i missed that but holy god [20:34] https://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/white-trash-repairs-you-know-how-youre-always-bugging-me-to-change-the-toilet-paper-roll1.gif [20:38] haha [20:38] I need one of those [21:40] http://ubiktune.org/releases/ubi044-various-artists-soundshock-2-fm-funk-terrror Some glorious FM tunes here [21:53] hey that netlabel isn't on archive.org [21:54] what gives [22:43] SketchCow [22:57] Yes [22:58] joepie sent me. Apparently you have a project, sound interesting. [22:58] need help? [23:02] Which project? [23:04] Let's Just Solve the Problem Month? [23:05] an wild joepie91 and pzuraq appear! [23:05] ohai [23:05] Oh yes [23:05] SketchCow: I told him that I *thought* that was your post [23:05] but not sure [23:05] :p [23:05] That's mine. [23:05] The question is what you rousted him NOW for. [23:06] It's in november, and we're doing some rough plans in the wiki right now for how we'll progress and what resources exiust. [23:06] SketchCow: I didn't really, actually.. I just sent the article and said 'person X on network Y can probably explain more' [23:06] :P [23:06] on that note, is there already an (early) list of what kind of things will have to be done? [23:07] If I have time and you throw small tasks at me I'll be able to help [23:07] got experience with html/css/php/js [23:08] would like to help with pre-planning [23:08] if not, just rouse me when november comes round [23:09] I will be in here :) [23:09] Get ye on the wiki [23:09] http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Just_Solve_the_Problem_2012