#archiveteam-bs 2012-07-07,Sat

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Time Nickname Message
00:40 🔗 Coderjoe underscor: https://gist.github.com/d6ee0d59160078b40c5a
00:41 🔗 Coderjoe though not all the files got shipped on the HDD.
01:01 🔗 Coderjoe "Open source incest: GPL forked by its coauthor"
01:01 🔗 Coderjoe think of the innocent little licenses!
02:37 🔗 SketchCow Party Rockers in the houuuuuuuuse tonight
02:37 🔗 SketchCow Interviewed an amazing arcade collector tonight.
02:37 🔗 SketchCow Interviewing some hackers later.
03:24 🔗 dashcloud just finished watching Indie Game the Movie- it was really awesome (even the credits were awesome!)
03:29 🔗 yipdw huh, this is much faster than I'm paying for
03:29 🔗 yipdw http://www.speedtest.net/result/2049697893.png
03:35 🔗 dashcloud let me guess- you also have FIOS available in your area right?
03:36 🔗 dashcloud and that's twice as fast as you were expecting?
03:36 🔗 SketchCow Did you see me in there?
03:36 🔗 SketchCow I'm production assistance, at the top
03:36 🔗 SketchCow aww yeah
03:37 🔗 dashcloud I saw your name in the credits, but I don't remember seeing you in the movie
03:39 🔗 dashcloud yipdw: if those are right, you're probably seeing Comcast matching FIOS's recent speed boosts- it's happening in my area, and Comcast makes a big deal in their commercials about it
03:41 🔗 yipdw dashcloud: yeah -- I think you're right about that
03:41 🔗 yipdw dashcloud: I don't think I have FIOS available here thogh
03:41 🔗 yipdw afaik FIOS is not available around the Chicago metro area
03:42 🔗 yipdw dashcloud: it's about 5-6x my plan
03:42 🔗 dashcloud whoa
03:42 🔗 dashcloud no idea there
03:43 🔗 dashcloud I got roughly double the speed here
03:44 🔗 yipdw yeah, I'm confused
03:44 🔗 yipdw I'll take it though
06:58 🔗 omf_ here is the script that Schbirid needed to process the logs https://gist.github.com/3065174
07:48 🔗 Coderjoe omf_: what were the source and destination formats again?
07:49 🔗 Coderjoe oh. foudn it
07:56 🔗 omf_ the source was a path/filename then two spaces then the file size
07:56 🔗 omf_ the output needed to track all the dirs
08:50 🔗 Coderjoe well that was awesome
08:50 🔗 Coderjoe went to download the clamwin update. upon completion, clam sentinal goes "suspicious file found" and quarrantines the update.
09:09 🔗 omf_ lol
09:10 🔗 winr4r good morning, beautiful people
09:13 🔗 godane hey win4r
09:13 🔗 godane uploading more dl.tv
09:14 🔗 winr4r nice :)
09:35 🔗 omf_ godane, how many episodes do you have left?
09:37 🔗 godane maybe 150
09:38 🔗 godane just noticed keven rose and alex was in go daddy ad
09:45 🔗 winr4r https://p.twimg.com/AxMRYdmCAAAJh47.jpg
09:45 🔗 winr4r i own one of these now
09:45 🔗 winr4r D:
09:49 🔗 winr4r so the sketchy guy who offered to send it to me didn't turn out so sketchy
09:50 🔗 winr4r and it was basically free
10:03 🔗 SmileyG D:
10:03 🔗 SmileyG thats YOU
10:03 🔗 SmileyG lewis?
10:05 🔗 winr4r SmileyG: yes sir?
10:06 🔗 SmileyG :D
10:06 🔗 SmileyG I was wondering who you were as I was following you and couldn't remember why :D
10:06 🔗 winr4r SmileyG: oh!
10:06 🔗 godane episodes 148 to 153 are up
10:06 🔗 winr4r SmileyG: dude, you must have been WASTED
10:06 🔗 SmileyG ;)
10:06 🔗 winr4r as most people must be to follow me
10:07 🔗 SmileyG after following you I got a random influx of followers so :/
10:08 🔗 winr4r awesome
10:08 🔗 winr4r i'm just that INFLUENTIAL
10:08 🔗 SmileyG ;)
10:30 🔗 winr4r are you going to be in brighton to see SketchCow when he's here, SmileyG?
10:31 🔗 winr4r also,
10:40 🔗 godane episode 153 and 154 are up
10:44 🔗 winr4r godane: :D
10:45 🔗 godane its weird that linux for you magazine is now back
11:02 🔗 godane episode 155 and 156 are up
11:03 🔗 winr4r :D
11:03 🔗 winr4r how fast is your upstream?
11:03 🔗 godane 250 kbytes
11:05 🔗 winr4r woo :D
11:16 🔗 brayden amazing
11:16 🔗 brayden I get 820 Kbps as a theoretical limit to the hardware in the exchange.
11:36 🔗 godane episode 157 and 158 are up
13:59 🔗 Schbirid i cannot read this https://gist.github.com/3065174 , does someone know where i could add some strings to its output IF the current line it prints is a directory?
13:59 🔗 Schbirid adding to the say makes it print in every line
14:13 🔗 Schbirid alternatively, adding to each line it prints unmodified
14:44 🔗 godane dltv episodes 161 to 164 are up
15:22 🔗 godane i'm up to episode 167
15:46 🔗 BlueMax Hey SketchCow, how does the asciibot on Twitter work? Do you feed it lines or does it just pick them at random?
15:51 🔗 SketchCow I have nothing to do with it
15:51 🔗 SketchCow Someone else asked permission for a bot that chooses a random line of a random textfile on textfiles.com.
15:56 🔗 BlueMax Fair enough
16:04 🔗 godane SketchCow: i found some pdfs of linuxworld magazine
16:04 🔗 godane its out of print too
17:27 🔗 balrog hmm Udacity's CS 101 course is pretty neat
17:27 🔗 balrog it's basically "create your own web crawler and search engine"
17:44 🔗 winr4r awesome
17:50 🔗 shaqfu I'm sure these fade in/out effects in Hypercard were awesome back in '89, but now they're such a huge pain in the ass
17:51 🔗 shaqfu Reading a book where it takes 5-10 seconds to draw each word :(
17:54 🔗 winr4r why does it take so much longer now?
17:55 🔗 shaqfu winr4r: Dunno if it's my setup, or just how long it takes HC's effects to run
17:55 🔗 winr4r shaqfu: are you emulating?
17:55 🔗 shaqfu winr4r: Yeah
17:55 🔗 shaqfu BasiliskII running System 7.5.x
17:56 🔗 winr4r ah
18:48 🔗 balrog shaqfu: can you relink that problematic stack?
20:19 🔗 Schbirid god, windows sucks so much if you are used to things like scrolling in nonfocused windows or alt-resize
20:54 🔗 joepie91 Schbirid: amen
20:54 🔗 joepie91 or one that particularly annoys me
20:55 🔗 joepie91 the rightclick press, drag, rightclick release trick that works everywhere on linux
20:55 🔗 joepie91 will completely fuck up your shit in windows
20:55 🔗 joepie91 the only thing where such a trick works in Windows that I can think of, off the top of my head, is the Bejeweled game, where you can also drag instead of click twice
20:55 🔗 joepie91 everything else won't do it
21:03 🔗 arkhive Is there any info on how much of the music from 8-Tracks is available digitally? There is on vinyl records but I couldn't find any about 8-Tracks.
21:11 🔗 arkhive I have a ton of 8-Tracks I'd like to backup before the media is completely destroyed.
21:14 🔗 winr4r i'd say pretty much all of it
21:14 🔗 winr4r i did a little research a few years back when i found an 8-track tape player in a car i was dismantling, and it seems 8-track was never a primary format
21:15 🔗 winr4r it was always "also available on 8-track", not "you need an 8-track player so that you can play this stuff"
21:16 🔗 winr4r but 1) that was several years ago 2) i didn't look into it much 3) there's no guarantee that the same thing in the *other* formats hasn't been binned in the time since
21:16 🔗 winr4r so digitise that shit
21:20 🔗 arkhive Should I do a lossless rip? or what do you reccomend for the highest quality?
21:21 🔗 winr4r arkhive: you probably want to talk to SketchCow about getting the highest sound quality from an analog source
21:23 🔗 winr4r on the other hand, if the difference between getting specialised equipment or whatever and just jamming that motherfucker into LINE IN and recording a FLAC is the difference between you not doing it vs doing it, then do the latter
21:27 🔗 winr4r lossless is better, of course, if you actually have a high enough SNR from the tape to justify it
21:33 🔗 winr4r (although lossless is still better even then)
21:33 🔗 winr4r even if you don't*
21:37 🔗 arkhive Hmm... I'm looking into the specialized equipment
21:37 🔗 winr4r arkhive: i'm not sure there is such a thing, that's why i suggested you ask jason :)
21:38 🔗 omf_ for 8 track
21:38 🔗 omf_ it exists
21:38 🔗 omf_ hell I have used an old school production tape to digital convert
21:38 🔗 winr4r i suspect you'll get a better SNR and mayyybe slightly better quality by using an external digital recorder rather than an onboard sound card, but that's my worthless opinion of someone who hasn't done i
21:38 🔗 winr4r +t
21:38 🔗 omf_ converter. They got everything out there
21:39 🔗 omf_ I got a vhs to digital converter sitting next to my desk. Which reminds me I wonder if my reel to reel player still works
21:41 🔗 arkhive Do you recommend one for 8-Tracks?
21:41 🔗 omf_ never done 8 tracks. I just know the equipment is out there. Renting it might be the best and most cost effective option
21:41 🔗 omf_ depends on how many tracks you got
21:42 🔗 arkhive Well I had about 300.. Now I have uhh.. 75 maybe.
21:44 🔗 arkhive Oh and I have about 800 vinyl records
21:44 🔗 winr4r awesome
21:44 🔗 arkhive but that is for later
21:48 🔗 omf_ doesn't the IA have this kind of equipment or are you on your own?
21:49 🔗 arkhive I'm in Colorado doing this by myself
23:31 🔗 omf_ anyone ever scraped http://www.imfdb.org before?
23:32 🔗 omf_ they have no ads, and they own what people contribute to the wiki
23:33 🔗 omf_ how is this still even running? most large scale wikis release their data as creative commons
23:34 🔗 arkhive That's funny. Never heard of that website
23:36 🔗 winr4r omf_: no ads?
23:36 🔗 winr4r are you running adblock by any chance? :P
23:36 🔗 winr4r still, pretty neat site
23:40 🔗 omf_ I have noscript setup
23:41 🔗 winr4r tada
23:41 🔗 winr4r it does have ads, two that i see
23:41 🔗 omf_ ooh
23:41 🔗 omf_ well I think that data should be free
23:41 🔗 omf_ how much are they copying from other wikis to even find this information
23:41 🔗 winr4r free as in stallman Free or actually free
23:41 🔗 omf_ stallman free
23:42 🔗 winr4r ah
23:42 🔗 omf_ why build a closed site when you are asking the public to do the bulk of the work
23:42 🔗 winr4r that's what every major website does, more or less
23:43 🔗 omf_ sites like tv.com collect the bulk of their hard data on their own. comments come from the public
23:43 🔗 omf_ not sure how tvrage does it
23:43 🔗 omf_ imdb is the same way
23:43 🔗 winr4r twitter, facebook
23:43 🔗 winr4r same idea, "you post stuff, we make money from it"
23:45 🔗 omf_ true however neither of those sites are trying to be a reference like imfdb.org or freebase
23:45 🔗 omf_ forums do the same as twit and fb
23:48 🔗 winr4r with reference sources i can actually see the value in not CC-licensing it
23:48 🔗 winr4r since there's a whole industry of bottom feeders whose business model is to take CC stuff and slap ads on it
23:49 🔗 winr4r or if not see the value, at least understand why someone would not
23:54 🔗 omf_ winr4r, I totally agree. stackoverflow is constantly being used by those bottom feeders
23:55 🔗 omf_ I am sure wikipedia gets the same bs too
23:55 🔗 winr4r yes
23:56 🔗 winr4r one of the things that happened years ago, was that i massively improved an article about a railway station, but that actually made further research on the subject much harder because after that google mostly turned up wikipedia mirrors
23:56 🔗 winr4r worse, that actually happened on google book search as well
23:57 🔗 winr4r as in someone was literally printing wikipedia articles and selling them as books
23:58 🔗 winr4r (that also happened to the kindle, not so long ago)
23:58 🔗 omf_ legally there is nothing to stop someone from printing wikipedia for a profit. It is a moral issue.
23:58 🔗 winr4r yes
23:59 🔗 omf_ like not citing resources
23:59 🔗 omf_ I hate that shit
23:59 🔗 winr4r and i simply don't see why not allowing someone to take your shit and slap ads on it is actually as bad as being hitler

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