Time |
Nickname |
Message |
00:03
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shaqfu |
It always feels weird to lie to robots |
00:04
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benuski |
have you gotten the leo mcgarry fan photos robot? |
00:05
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shaqfu |
Nope - had to apply to a job via a robot system, and it asked a yes/no "have you used our niche CMS" |
00:06
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shaqfu |
Where a "no" pipes your application to /dev/null |
00:06
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shaqfu |
Thankfully it's FOSS, so I can quickly roll an install and play with it for an evening if all goes well |
00:11
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mistym |
? |
00:11
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mistym |
shaqfu: Omeka |
00:12
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shaqfu |
mistym: MDID |
00:12
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shaqfu |
People actually use Omeka! |
00:13
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mistym |
shaqfu: Ah, no kidding! When you name your CMS after your university, you can tell it's based on a "not invented here" philosophy |
00:13
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Coderjoe |
what isn't based on NIH? |
00:15
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shaqfu |
mistym: When it's in "test mode at several institutions" it feels unfair to bin applications based on no experience |
00:15
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mistym |
shaqfu: No kidding |
00:15
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shaqfu |
So, I lied to a robot today about it |
00:16
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mistym |
Its feelings are very hurt, I'm sure |
00:17
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benuski |
We use Omeka for a transcription project, but it makes me angry almost daily |
00:17
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benuski |
today its because it has a hardcoded file size limit, initially of about 10 mb |
00:17
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shaqfu |
benuski: Yeah, it's finicky about stuff like that |
00:18
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shaqfu |
In my use, it's been really fussy with ImageMagicking some filetypes |
00:18
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benuski |
we're only using jpgs and pdfs with it, so its mostly treating us well |
00:19
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shaqfu |
Ah, yeah - don't try it with JPEG2000 or TIFF |
00:20
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shaqfu |
I'm surprised you use it for transcription - aren't there better systems for that? |
00:21
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benuski |
maybe, but omeka + scripto is the best way we've found for our limited IT support. When we started, our volunteers were emailing their word files back to us, so scripto is a big upgrade |
00:22
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shaqfu |
Ah, gotcha. Makes sense if you're limited - Omeka's free and flexible enough to be good-enough for most anything |
00:23
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benuski |
Yeah; our IT team is energetic enough to install whatever we want for us, but we don't have money for big proprietary systems |
00:23
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benuski |
which is fine for me, I prefer FOSS in general |
02:54
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shaqfu |
What's a fair wget delay time, to not rape a server? |
03:01
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dashcloud |
if you're trying to make yourself look more like a person, make sure it's at least a second or two long- otherwise, base it on how soon you expect the server to go down |
03:02
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Coderjoe |
also, the random wait can be useful as well |
03:02
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shaqfu |
It's a small data hosting service in Texas; I figure it can't handle much |
03:06
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shaqfu |
I'll just step it through 3k basic pages overnight at 4 sec each |
03:08
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Coderjoe |
it would be nice if the wait time didn't apply to page requisites, as a normal browser would get those all together, then there would be a delay before moving on to the next page |
03:08
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shaqfu |
Thankfully I'm skipping those |
03:08
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shaqfu |
I just needs wads of text data |
03:09
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Coderjoe |
(as far as hiding out as if you were a human browser and not wget slurping everything down) |
03:09
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shaqfu |
Hm, actually, just grabbing text and telling it to ignore <img> might help their servers |
03:09
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shaqfu |
Ignore the giant American flag banner, at least |
03:13
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shaqfu |
I gotta say, wget+perl are such phenomenal data-building tools |
03:13
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chronomex |
if you want to hide and not look like a robot, browsing a few pages and then leaving never to return would be pretty good idea |
03:14
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Coderjoe |
mmm. ipv6 will make that fun |
03:14
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shaqfu |
chronomex: I don't care about looking like a robot; I care about not doing a one-man DoS attack by accident |
03:14
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chronomex |
I get people on my website who look at 500 pages over the course of 6 hours |
03:14
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shaqfu |
I don't know what their infrastructure looks like |
03:14
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chronomex |
I think they're kind of not people |
03:15
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shaqfu |
But it's a small muni org, so I assume it sucks |
03:15
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Coderjoe |
care to share a domain name? |
03:16
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shaqfu |
http://www.tml.org/source/members/TML_Directory.cfm |
03:17
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shaqfu |
Each page has id=X, and I need to step through about 3k |
03:18
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Coderjoe |
well, the web server appears to be hosted with peer1 dedicated hosting, at least |
03:19
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shaqfu |
Is that solid hosting? |
03:19
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Coderjoe |
but only one server (unless they use a load balancer or the like, which I haven't probed for) |
03:20
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Coderjoe |
ew |
03:21
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shaqfu |
? |
03:21
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Coderjoe |
it appears to be IIS 6.0 on windows server 2k3 |
03:22
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|
Coderjoe |
(that's what netcraft says. my single wget poke confirms IIS 6.0 and ASP.NET) |
03:23
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Aranje |
so hammer it like the fist of an angry god |
03:23
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Aranje |
IIS on winserver 2k3 is stable like the tectonic plates! |
03:23
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shaqfu |
I wouldn't call 3k pages over a night "hammering" |
03:24
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shaqfu |
Then again, after totally fucking up Parodius by accident I'm really jumpy about that sort of thing |
03:25
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Coderjoe |
parodius would have nabbed you anyway, unless you were grabbing a page a day or something |
03:25
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Coderjoe |
he was watching his network usage and per-host stats pretty closely |
03:26
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shaqfu |
True |
03:42
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Aranje |
github just pulled 100m$ of seed moneys |
03:43
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|
* |
Aranje claps |
03:50
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shaqfu |
How's github ever plan on making money? |
03:50
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|
shaqfu |
Selling support? |
03:51
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Coderjoe |
private repos are fee-based |
03:51
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|
shaqfu |
Ah |
03:52
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Coderjoe |
and possibly ads (that I don't typically see) |
03:57
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|
underscor |
iirc it's all private repos |
03:57
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|
underscor |
and their appliance thing |
03:58
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shaqfu |
underscor: Did you get my PM last night? |
03:58
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|
underscor |
oh hey! |
03:58
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|
underscor |
yeah, and it's unread :x |
03:58
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|
underscor |
sorry |
03:58
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shaqfu |
No sweat |
04:00
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|
underscor |
shaqfu: all moved |
04:00
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|
shaqfu |
underscor: <3 |
04:00
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|
underscor |
:) |
05:49
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ersi |
I know quite a few GitHub actual costumers |
05:50
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|
ersi |
Most of them know you can get free private repositories at BitBucket (also git, owned by Alassian) - but they still pay a few dollars to GitHub instead |
05:50
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chronomex |
bitbucket used to be hg-only ;) |
05:53
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ersi |
yeah, I know. |
06:21
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SketchCow |
adkaskdjaksdjas |
06:21
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SketchCow |
OK, working so hard, I'm about to cancel one of my "things" |
06:21
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|
SketchCow |
Sp I don't die. |
06:33
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|
winr4r |
not dying is a good plan |
06:33
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|
winr4r |
it beats doing the opposite, imo |
07:37
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BlueMax |
I'll add SketchCow to the Deathwatch page on the wiki |
07:46
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|
godane |
3d world 149 is uploaded: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-149 |
10:13
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|
godane |
looks like someone release 3 cover cds of window magazines |
10:13
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|
godane |
*windows |
10:14
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|
godane |
comes with images of cd cover and back |
17:28
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Schbirid |
hm, http://archive.org/details/cdbbsarchive is kinda mistitled nowadays because of all the cover discs |
19:10
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yipdw |
csshx is a pretty fun tool |
19:23
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underscor |
<BlueMax> I'll add SketchCow to the Deathwatch page on the wiki |
19:23
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|
underscor |
hahahaah |
19:40
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|
underscor |
<Loxodrome> IF I WERE MASTURBATING TO STAR WARS I WOULD BE HAND SOLO |
19:42
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Schbirid |
star wars? does that have something to do with uranus? |
19:47
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yipdw |
Hand Solo and Chewie |
19:47
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|
yipdw |
that's vaguely disgusting |
20:00
🔗
|
underscor |
hahaha |
22:53
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|
shaqfu |
15:40 < underscor> <Loxodrome> IF I WERE MASTURBATING TO STAR WARS I WOULD BE HAND SOLO |
22:53
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|
shaqfu |
I forgot what it felt like to log onto IRC and get hit with a Jerkcity line |
22:53
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|
underscor |
:D |
22:55
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|
shaqfu |
Thankfully the site is trivial to mirror - can't lose 13+ years of fine quotes about masturbation |
23:02
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|
BlueMax |
There was a quote database backup project done by an old member |
23:02
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|
BlueMax |
Worked really well surprisingly |
23:02
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|
BlueMax |
Guy must have left the AT though |
23:10
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winr4r |
shaqfu: i fucking love jerkcity |