#archiveteam-bs 2012-07-12,Thu

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00:22 πŸ”— benuski the more i hear about copyright lawsuits, the more i think it should be abolished
00:22 πŸ”— benuski i'd comprise and revert back to the 1790 copyright law
00:44 πŸ”— godane benuski: In the old days copyright made senses and cause you could only copy stuff in you invested and alot of hardware
01:31 πŸ”— benuski eh, 28 years is a plenty long copyright term. Although I may be biased since I'm an archivsit
01:31 πŸ”— benuski Well, an archivist whose had plenty of bourbon tonight
04:32 πŸ”— chronomex I don't have any of that set up
04:32 πŸ”— chronomex and they all have crypto root anyway
08:48 πŸ”— godane paypal sucks
08:57 πŸ”— BlueMax yes
09:07 πŸ”— godane now it needs a bill with my living address
09:07 πŸ”— godane and i have none of that
09:07 πŸ”— godane all goes to po box
09:54 πŸ”— ersi chronomex: this machine I'm IRCing from has all it's disk encrypted. If I reboot it, it'll boot a minimal initrd with basically just opensshd + config + pub key, so I'm able to unlock the system remotely
09:54 πŸ”— ersi pretty nifteh
09:59 πŸ”— SmileyG_ ooooooo thats nice :)
10:05 πŸ”— ersi also, don't use dropbear if you don't absolutely have to.. there's new vulns like, every week in that codebase :)
10:05 πŸ”— ersi opensshd > dropbear
10:20 πŸ”— SmileyG agreed.
10:20 πŸ”— SmileyG yey I can ssh from my phone, home :)
10:20 πŸ”— * SmileyG needs to setup the work vpn on his home server so he can get access
10:22 πŸ”— SmileyG "just in case"
13:15 πŸ”— omf_ SmileyG, you want to know about how they block spiders?
13:16 πŸ”— SmileyG other than robots.txt, yah
13:33 πŸ”— omf_ What I feel the most effective is the honey pot
13:34 πŸ”— omf_ if implemented correctly. You insert a few links at random somewhere on the site
13:34 πŸ”— omf_ or stage them early in the navigation hierarchy
13:34 πŸ”— omf_ If you fetch one or two of them it trips off a detector
13:34 πŸ”— omf_ then future traffic from that IP is sent junk in return
13:35 πŸ”— omf_ frequency of hits from an IP is another metric
13:39 πŸ”— ersi omf_: How does that work with pre-loading, which is enabled at Chrome/Firefox these days? ;o
13:44 πŸ”— omf_ you mean like this http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&answer=2392284
13:45 πŸ”— ersi http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-MySQL-Wrapper-Wrapper.aspx
13:45 πŸ”— ersi oh my, I lol'd
13:46 πŸ”— ersi omf_: yeah
13:48 πŸ”— SmileyG hot mail down for anyone ?
13:48 πŸ”— SmileyG hotmail*
13:50 πŸ”— omf_ preloading is a problem for the person hosting the site
13:50 πŸ”— omf_ people have been bitching for years about wasted server hits due to preloading and things like fasterfox
13:51 πŸ”— omf_ Having software tuned for that is more about aggregate hit totals, UA sniffing and patterns
13:51 πŸ”— omf_ most users never navigate over 100 pages inside a site a day
13:52 πŸ”— omf_ simple counters would stop most bots
13:52 πŸ”— omf_ the advantage is most people do not pay attention to this problem
13:52 πŸ”— omf_ hell google has tagged me for searches that I was doing while logged into google
13:53 πŸ”— omf_ they thought I was a robot because I did a few searches using the '..' operator
13:55 πŸ”— omf_ If I had to make a guess google is probably the biggest target for scrapers in the world
14:10 πŸ”— ersi omf_: Well, I was more interested in the context of honeypots
14:32 πŸ”— omf_ you mean if someone preloads a few honeypot links
14:44 πŸ”— ersi indeed
15:37 πŸ”— chronomex on time arrival my ass, we been sitting on the taxiway for 30 minutes
15:39 πŸ”— chronomex pilot says tower guy isnt giving him a straight answer about when the gate will be clear
17:45 πŸ”— SketchCow chronomex: All airlines add one hour to arrival time now.
17:46 πŸ”— winr4r good afternoon, my lovelies
17:49 πŸ”— Schbirid you know files are evil if ncdu is at 200MB already
18:11 πŸ”— godane i'm uploading more gbtv episodes
18:11 πŸ”— godane there very big
18:12 πŸ”— godane like 800mb to 1gb
18:15 πŸ”— Schbirid erk, 1.7million items so far (ncduing forumplanet)
18:16 πŸ”— Schbirid i am stil very happy about recommendations as to a) deduplicate and/or b) host this in a compressed something that does not eat too much cpu
20:17 πŸ”— Schbirid right, the solution would be to remove all the fucking spam from it
20:19 πŸ”— Schbirid https://pastee.org/safh
20:21 πŸ”— omf_ is that the current status?
20:24 πŸ”— Schbirid that is what i saved before they vanished
20:26 πŸ”— omf_ are any of these complete?
20:28 πŸ”— Schbirid that is not fileplanet
20:28 πŸ”— Schbirid but forumplanet
20:29 πŸ”— Schbirid no idea how complete, i did a good job
20:36 πŸ”— omf_ aah
20:38 πŸ”— omf_ wow ign just shutting shit down
20:40 πŸ”— Schbirid yeah, quite a while ago already
20:40 πŸ”— Schbirid 3 weeks or so
20:41 πŸ”— omf_ Is IGN planning on keeping anything online?
23:26 πŸ”— omf_ It is wrong to troll a 15 year old who is trolling
23:29 πŸ”— omf_ (ҕ¯Â°Ò–‘°)ҕ¯ï¸¡ Ҕ»Ò”Ò”»)
23:29 πŸ”— omf_ ;P
23:29 πŸ”— omf_ Γ’Β”Β¬Γ’Β”Β€Γ’Β”Β¬Γ£ΒƒΒŽ( º _ Γ‚ΒΊΓ£ΒƒΒŽ) - I am calm again.

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