[00:12] Would there be any interest in someone (me) piling together every HyperCard stack and putting it up somewhere? [00:12] I've come across a lot lately, and AFAIK there are no solid repos for them [00:13] shaqfu: do eeeet [00:13] yes [00:13] do it [00:14] There were some neat ones that almost died in, of all things, memac [00:14] shaqfu: you get a hug if you do it [00:15] And this other project of mine just got delayed for two months, so I've time [00:18] shaqfu: the hug should be motivation enough [00:18] winr4r: Indeed [00:23] I realized today my entire productivity is predicated on me being really angry at something [00:23] shaqfu: DUDE [00:23] me too [00:27] Dinosaur archivists laugh and say a muni incorporation index is impossible -> mostly done it [00:27] Copyright is binding hands to make a good repo -> hitting my sources now [00:28] ah, you mean being angry at a specific thing not being done rather than just angry generally? [00:28] winr4r: Yeah [00:28] ah, gotcha [00:29] my most productive days have actually come out of being angry or depressed more generally, haha [00:33] What file system do you guys recommend for Ubuntu 12.04. It will be dual booting Windows XP 32bit. Ext4 journaling? [00:33] Haven't used Ubuntu since 7.04 if iirc [00:35] i'm using ext4 [00:35] but i also think the whole thing is a bit of a mess [00:36] a corrupted filesystem at boot should allow you to drop to a root prompt and fsck it [00:37] instead, it drops you to a busybox shell which does not have fsck, and so you have to download ubuntu again, boot from USB, fsck it from there [00:37] which is a massive fuck-up when you're trying to get non-technical users to use it (i have) [00:37] but, that's probably true of any FS you use [00:37] journalled ext4 is as good a filesystem as any [00:39] ext4 should be enough for anyone [00:39] Hey, Reiser just got ordered to pay millions to his children for killing their mom [00:39] I didn't know you could do that [00:39] * SketchCow starts saving up [00:39] hahaha [00:41] Where's he getting the millions from, if he's in jail? [00:41] shaqfu: presumably the money he made before he went to jail [00:42] Is he supposed to pay them in cigs and rape? [00:44] http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Hans-Reiser-must-pay-kids-60-million-3713670.php [00:44] SketchCow: i blame you for getting me hooked on "teenagers" again [00:44] An Alameda County civil jury ordered convicted murderer Hans Reiser on Tuesday to pay $60 million to his young son and daughter for strangling their mother, rejecting his assertions in a wrongful-death case that he had rightfully killed her to protect the children. [00:44] hahahaha [00:44] (that would be easy to quote out of context) [00:44] Great argument, just the kind of argument a filesystem nerd would make. [00:44] haha what the fuck [00:44] Arturo Gonzalez, the attorney representing Rory and Niorline Reiser, now 12 and 11, respectively, had asked jurors to order Reiser to pay $10 million in compensatory damages to each of them and an additional $5 million in punitive damages. [00:44] The jury, after deliberating for several hours over two days, instead ordered the one-time computer programmer to pay $25 million to each child, plus $10 million in punitive damages. [00:44] NOW THAT IS GOLD [00:45] wow this is a black hole of asshole, isn't it? [00:45] should i format the partition even though part of the disk is still used by windows? [00:46] i mean you can't even comment on it one way or the other without sounding like an asshole [00:46] He also compared himself to Moses killing a slave master and hiding the body in the sand. [00:46] Hahahahahahaha [00:46] it's an asshole black hole that even sucks comments about the matter into it, making it into asshole [00:47] and what should i select for the mount point? [00:47] arkhive: isn't this done automatically now? [00:48] i'm doing it a different way [00:48] so i can resize the partition [00:48] arkhive: then you're on your own with this one [00:48] Did everyone see the wall street guy that took a poison pill in court? [00:48] Also amazing. [00:48] or at least, i can't help [00:48] Like the batman.... except he didn't come back [00:48] SketchCow: one of the wall street fraudsters? [00:48] i didn't know about that [00:49] but i am all in favour of this [00:49] PHOENIX . A man collapsed in court and died after being convicted Thursday of deliberately burning down his $3.5 million Phoenix mansion. [00:49] Maricopa County sheriff's deputies said they were investigating whether Michael Marin put something in his mouth that led to his death after the verdict was read. [00:49] "We will have to wait until we get toxicology reports from the medical examiner until we can confirm if he did and what the substance was," sheriff's spokesman Jeff Sprong said in a written statement. [00:50] Marin was a former attorney, banker and art collector who had nearly $900,000 in the bank in 2008 but only $50 at the time of the fire, the Arizona Republic reported. [00:50] An attorney, it'll do [00:50] $50? Must've been cheap poison [00:51] How the hell did he even get enough fuel to light up a mansion on $50 [00:51] http://www.policeone.com/corrections/articles/5789315-Video-Man-swallows-pill-dies-after-court-verdict/ [00:51] The CNN story in there is perfect [00:53] wow [01:08] So archive.org pisses me off again. The redundant 'Archive Jobs' and 'Jobs' which just points back to 'Archive Jobs'. [01:09] Good god why is it the portal to massive internet knowledge looks behind the times [01:09] there are ton of people on ao too http://archive.org/about/bios.php [01:10] and they're all beautiful [01:11] That is probably why they have a fill in image ;) [01:11] I am a pissed off web developer. [01:11] why are you pissed off? [01:12] I am tired of using broken ass sites that look like they came out of the 90s. What kind of public image does that show that you cannot stay with the times. [01:12] I am talking about more than just ao [01:12] omf_: ahahaha [01:13] dude i actually make my site look like a well-designed from the 90s [01:13] url? [01:13] http://lewiscollard.com/ [01:14] i really don't get upset if sites look like they were made in 1999 [01:14] you cannot call a plain web page a 90s web page [01:14] i mean i just don't have it in me to be annoyed by it [01:14] that is not the same. Ultra minimal never goes out of style [01:14] http://followerwonk.com/analyze/sockington [01:14] I deal with the general public and all their hand waving. It is about usability [01:15] dude, i love you but you're actually complaining about the biggest archive of digital shit in the world having an outdated design [01:16] yes [01:16] SketchCow: Wonder what his Klout is [01:16] It just turns people away from using it [01:16] shaqfu: i was about to say *exactly* the same thing [01:17] Hahaha [01:17] that is interesting [01:19] it does not say how long the user has been on twitter [01:19] is that 7k+ tweets in 1 year, 5 years? [01:19] my bad [01:19] right there [01:19] yup [01:19] none of the people I have checked have under 1k days on there [01:21] i love socks! [01:22] hahahaha [01:22] so, sockington has a client [01:22] called litterbox [01:22] which he posts with [01:22] twitter added an icon for it!! [01:23] hahahaha [01:23] that's fucking great [01:23] (hi mistym) [01:23] Hey winr4r [01:30] http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2012/07/shell-artic-ready-hoax-fools-the-internet----again.html [01:30] in the one hand, that's a really lazy "here's what people said on twitter" news story [01:30] on* [01:31] and on the other, lololol i get mentioned on cbc.ca [01:41] Yeah, these Storify "here's some stuff from the internet, because you read CBC to find out what's on Twitter" thing seems to be really common on a lot of news sites [01:42] > these thing - I fail at grammar [01:50] mistym: haha [01:50] yeah, it is kind of like that [02:12] https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/225774266874994689 [02:12] Makin' buddies [02:17] scott kurtz has always been a total d-bag. [02:17] I thought he was dead [02:17] SketchCow, you keep the good commentary up [02:18] too much bs not enough truth [02:28] I feel kinda bad for the lady who wandered into the middle of that [02:28] SketchCow: you're brutal, man [02:28] as for me, i never liked penny arcade too much [02:29] there has always been like one actual character and three facial expressions [02:29] The lady is a friend of my fiancee', she can take it. [02:29] okay [02:29] SketchCow: wouldn't like you so much if you weren't so brutally honest :) [02:30] never really read the comic, but I do like the Penny Arcade Report site [02:32] SketchCow: also, either i've missed it or you've not told me what date(s) you'll be in brighton [02:32] (i live very, very cheaply so i actually have to save up for this sort of thing) [02:32] http://i.imgur.com/MvVIB.jpg [02:32] nsfw [02:33] underscor: haha, i guess that might answer my question of what was the first text-only dong [02:40] winr4r: There was probably some Snoopy Calendar variant involving them [02:41] Dongs and computers just seem to attract each other [02:41] haha [02:49] winr4r: http://2012.dconstruct.org/conference/#about [02:50] SketchCow: i'll do my best to be there [02:52] SketchCow: i mostly want to see if you're as scary IRL, haha [04:13] winr4r: oh, he is [04:13] it's AWESOME [04:14] underscor: did you meet him? [04:15] multiple times [04:15] we even rode the giant dipper [04:15] 8) [04:17] that sounds so dirty [04:17] lol [04:20] haha [08:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl9xYSOVtM [09:57] wow [09:57] The (blind?) guy in the video "you walk into a room, its pitch black" 'I'm like..... I don't care?' [09:57] Thats kind of mind blowing... [09:59] yes, he's blind [10:03] erm. yeah. erm. [10:15] http://wmpoweruser.com/watch-what-you-store-on-skydriveyou-may-lose-your-microsoft-life/ [10:16] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4265159 [12:10] I wanna play some IF now. [14:37] chiptunes anybody http://archive.org/details/chiptunes-back2roots-2005-02-05 [14:38] DFJustin: Awesome. [15:45] cool. [15:45] :) [17:52] "Oh yes. Huuuuuge, I didn't even think about something like this and I ha e my 900 set to auto upload pics. My trips to Vegas are up there!! It was routine to get flashed at a bar when they saw me taking pics of me and my friends" [17:54] hm? [17:54] in the comments on the empoweruser.com story Schbirid linked [17:54] i thought you were reading youtube comments [17:54] but... girls flashing to photobomb in vegas? really? [17:55] * Coderjoe looks into job listings and housing... [17:56] oh i missed that [19:07] still hooked on this MCR song man [19:08] i think this means i am actually 15, and in 2007 [19:15] balrog: I'm kinda baffled she took the job [19:15] why? [19:16] and not sure if you say this: [19:16] http://www.flickr.com/dearinternet [19:16] (and http://dearmarissamayer.com ) [19:16] balrog: Yahoo is still a huge company with huge resources, but dunno if it's able to correct course, so to speak [19:23] of course they can [19:23] note: *can*, not *will* [19:26] Apple was able to correct course, and they were worse off [19:26] http://theweek.com/article/index/230424/the-first-photograph-ever-posted-to-the-web [19:28] DFJustin: cool! [19:42] kdirstat is fucking idiotic [19:42] i saved a cache file of a big tree [19:42] and reading it back in eats cpu like a kopenhagen whore eats hash cookies [19:42] takes ages too [19:42] if it works at all, we'll see [19:53] hm :< [19:56] are HOPE talks available yet? [19:58] I saw slashdot said there was a mp3... [19:58] want me to go hunt a link for you Schbirid ? [19:58] yes, please. if you find some more betoni mixsets than what are on archive.org please link me those too :D [19:59] http://www.thelasthope.org/media/audio/64kbps/Community_Fabrication.mp3 [20:00] damn I'm fast :D [20:00] lasthope was 2008 :P [20:04] what a piece of shit (kdirstat) [20:05] seems like it makes the file tree a file puddle with ignoring all the directories it saved [20:05] :( [20:06] wtf [20:07] stupid slashdot :P( [20:07] http://radio.hope.net/ << o_O? [20:10] hi SmileyG :) [20:12] hey winr4r [20:25] SketchCow: when you come to the UK, will you consider doing an archive team/textfiles.com/general jason scott fan get-together meal or something? [20:26] when i looked at that conference at which you're speaking, it's like £130, i really do live very cheaply and with the travel costs and the rest, i don't have that to spend even at a month-and-a-bit's notice :/ [20:27] i don't expect you to alter your schedule for cheap people like me, of course, but i'm sure you have a bunch of fans in the UK [20:30] wait wat, treesize does not support ftp or what? [20:34] i'll try http://www.tucows.com/preview/268351 [20:35] Schbirid: on a unix? [20:35] you might want to look at ftpfs [20:36] on a windows on a lunix [20:36] nah, the problem is finding tools that support saving their results [20:36] only kdirstat does that on linux (and it supports ftp right away) [20:36] ah [20:39] meh, space totally fails on ftp [20:44] FUCK YOU WINDOWS AND EVERYTHING [20:44] if you mount a ftp dir, treesize fails because it fucking sucks and does not know how to handle that [20:45] space does not even show that dir [20:46] hm [21:27] Poor, cheap little winr4r [21:27] I expect there to be maybe 1-2 people in the UK for getting together [21:27] But I can certainly hang with you [21:28] SketchCow: heh, sorry man, not looking for sympathy but that's how it is [21:28] i would love to hang with you :) [21:29] Poor little penny arcade, nobody wants to give too much cash. [21:32] SketchCow: how about if i met you at heathrow and we had a meal with some other AT folks/general fans? [21:33] Let me start thinking about that whole trip a little later. [21:33] Today I JUST tested the software I was depending on to generate the slides. [21:34] but I need to get back to the defcon documentary. [21:34] okay :) [21:36] I'm generating clips from interviews. [21:37] I'm blasting the interview at 20% speed increase, so I can eval a 60 minute interview in, like, 48 minutes. [21:38] is there a downside to that? [21:40] Everyone sounds like they're on cocaine [21:40] hahaha [21:40] any fellow germans here? [21:43] The method I'm using to sort clips is great and amazing. Only downside is ALL footage has to be available at all times. [21:45] how so? [21:46] How so what? [21:47] Every clip must be on a drive connected to the machine, in the form of a raw clip. [21:47] right, but how does that differ from any other method? [21:47] (honest question, i know nothing about video editing) [21:47] So right now, there's 479gb of footage on my defcon directory. [21:47] sweet jesus [21:47] In my OLD method, I rendered out specific clips, and put JUST those on a drive. [21:48] So it might be, say, 400gb for ALL of GET LAMP [21:48] ahhh [21:48] gotcha [22:00] the difference is rendering out specific clips or having all the raw footage with some form of metadata that indicates where those clips in the former had come from. [22:00] (the former potentially removing the spoken questions, plus all the "ummmm" and "ah..." time and the like) [22:07] http://vimeo.com/42857970 [22:18] nvm that link, skip [22:31] http://boingboing.net/2012/07/19/gallery-of-1960s-library-poste.html [22:34] Coderjoe: I used to have a stolen library poster of Patrick Stewart up [22:34] (reading Hamlet, naturally) [23:11] mistym: hello! [23:12] winr4r: Hey! [23:12] * mistym just getting home [23:12] I love a short commute. [23:15] ah :) [23:25] I am counting down to The Dark Knight Rises [23:25] is there a way to search just collection names on AO? [23:26] http://www.archive.org/metamgr.php [23:27] awesome [23:27] Also try http://archive.org/search_beta/ [23:27] and it supports wildcards [23:27] even better [23:34] yay I found what I was looking for [23:38] mistym: I miss my shorter commute. [23:44] http://www.ameliaabreu.com/?p=76 [23:44] I wonder if AT should change its name to "Archives, Yahoo! Inc." [23:46] Coderjoe: How long's your commute now? [23:58] it went from ~5min to ~30min [23:59] and the company moved farther away from the major city, so getting to appointments and stuff added that 30 minutes to each direction