| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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01:09
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chronomex |
ohai nrr, are you the same nrr on twitter? |
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01:09
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chronomex |
I think I follow you or something |
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02:15
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nrr |
chronomex: the very same. |
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02:33
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dashcloud |
since this is the offtopic channel, I think you'll all appreciate this lesson in proofreading: http://i.imgur.com/OHCdB.png |
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02:34
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mistym_ |
Oh dear. You think they'd have seen that one coming and been extra careful... |
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02:34
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dashcloud |
it's worse- google that number |
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02:34
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dashcloud |
(which is how I found it- I got a missed call from that number) |
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02:38
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mistym_ |
Oh no!! |
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02:38
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mistym_ |
The very first thing you see about them. lol |
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02:39
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winr4r |
awesome. |
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02:47
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Nintendud |
question: what's the best way to upload multiple large files to the shareware cd archive? last time I uploaded the PC Gamer coverdiscs, I just uploaded them to SketchCow, but he seems to be quite busy with defcon and everything. |
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02:53
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|
* |
Nintendud pokes DFJustin |
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02:56
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dashcloud |
not having done it before, I'd say sign up for an IA account yourself, but better answers can probably be had in the main channel |
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02:57
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Nintendud |
Yeah, I signed up |
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02:57
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Nintendud |
but I have something like 25 700MB files |
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02:58
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winr4r |
you might want to talk to godane when he gets here |
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02:58
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Nintendud |
Dunno if the default workflow is decent for bulk uploading |
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02:59
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Nintendud |
And if any other stuff should acompany the disc images. The existing ones have something like an XML file list; do I have to generate that? etc |
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02:59
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Nintendud |
accompany* |
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02:59
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Nintendud |
I'm also curious about how to edit any already uploaded discs |
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02:59
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Nintendud |
At least one of the discs isn't in the collection proper |
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03:00
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Nintendud |
(it's uploaded, but not in the list of discs for PC Gamer) |
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03:00
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|
Nintendud |
I believe I also have scans for some already uploaded discs |
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03:02
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Nintendud |
Anyway, I hope to contribute a lot more once the summer is over, so it would be cool to figure out workflows that work for me now. :) |
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04:11
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DFJustin |
Nintendud: if you can wait, sketchcow will be back in action by wednesday |
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04:12
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DFJustin |
the xml is auto-generated by IA when you upload |
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04:12
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DFJustin |
to edit an already uploaded disc you either have to have uploaded it yourself or be an admin |
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04:13
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DFJustin |
the web upload form is one at a time but if you're handy with the command line you can script it using s3 http://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt |
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04:14
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DFJustin |
sketchow wrote some bare-bones scripts http://fos.textfiles.com/ia-injector http://fos.textfiles.com/ia-ingestor |
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04:16
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DFJustin |
I have the ability to edit anything that's already in the cdbbsarchive collection or sub-collections but only sketchcow or underscor can move stuff that's been uploaded to e.g. community texts |
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05:06
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Nintendud |
DFJustin: alright, thanks |
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05:08
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underscor |
hi |
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05:08
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|
underscor |
did something need moving? |
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05:08
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|
Nintendud |
Let me see... |
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05:09
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|
Nintendud |
This is not included in the PC Gamer cover disc collection: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-pcgamercd7.48 |
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05:09
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|
Nintendud |
(it should be) |
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05:11
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Nintendud |
and this is actually disc 4.1 no 1 (there were 2 that month; I have the second one in the next batch): http://archive.org/details/pcgamer-coverdisc-1998-07 |
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05:11
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underscor |
what's the identifier for the pc gamer collection? |
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05:12
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Nintendud |
http://archive.org/details/pcgamer-cdroms ? |
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05:12
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Nintendud |
Is that what you mean? |
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05:13
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underscor |
mhm |
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05:13
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|
underscor |
archive.org/details/cdrom-pcgamercd7.48?reCache=1 |
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05:13
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|
underscor |
fixed |
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05:13
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Nintendud |
sweet, thanks |
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05:15
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Nintendud |
dunno if you want to deal with the second thing I mentioned |
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05:15
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Nintendud |
o, nm |
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05:15
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Nintendud |
you changed it |
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05:16
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underscor |
mhm |
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05:16
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|
underscor |
:) |
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05:16
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Nintendud |
hopefully once SketchCow I can get the 27 new ones I have uploaded |
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05:16
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|
Nintendud |
gets back* |
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05:16
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|
Nintendud |
I accidentally two words |
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05:24
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Lord_Nigh |
i have a few pc gamer cds here |
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05:26
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godane |
underscor: i may have some stuff you can move |
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05:26
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|
underscor |
Nintendud: you can just upload it yourself too |
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05:26
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|
underscor |
archive.org/upload is our new thing |
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05:27
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Nintendud |
Lord_Nigh: Oh? If you can, let me know what you have and I can see if it's one of the ones I'm missing |
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05:27
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Lord_Nigh |
ok one sec |
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05:27
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Nintendud |
underscor: does that work in links? |
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05:27
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Lord_Nigh |
gottga grab pile from closet |
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05:27
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godane |
underscor: move this to cbbsarchive http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-155 |
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05:27
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underscor |
Nintendud: what do you mean? |
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05:27
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|
Nintendud |
the CLI web browser |
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05:28
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|
Nintendud |
I have the files on a headless linux bos |
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05:28
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Nintendud |
box* |
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05:28
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|
Nintendud |
it probably does... |
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05:28
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godane |
and this: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-115 |
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05:28
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godane |
and this: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-118 |
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05:28
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Nintendud |
underscor: can I compress the files at all? |
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05:29
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|
underscor |
Nintendud: You could, but they won't be uncompressed at the other end |
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05:29
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|
Nintendud |
okay |
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05:29
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|
Nintendud |
no problem |
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05:29
🔗
|
godane |
this also: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-124 |
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05:29
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|
underscor |
oh, definitely doesn't work in links |
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05:29
🔗
|
underscor |
it's html5 magic |
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05:29
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Nintendud |
aw |
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05:29
🔗
|
underscor |
cli handling has to be done over s3 |
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05:29
🔗
|
underscor |
http://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt |
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05:30
🔗
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Nintendud |
it would take forever on my home connection, which is why I put them on a fast box |
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05:30
🔗
|
Nintendud |
yeah, someone mentioned the s3 interface before |
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05:32
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|
underscor |
it's pretty easy |
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05:32
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|
underscor |
godane: done |
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05:32
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Nintendud |
DFJustin linked to a few basic scripts that were put together |
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05:33
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Lord_Nigh |
ok i have 4.14 (aug 99), 5.7 (apr 00), 5.8 (may 00), 5.5 (feb 00), 5.1 (oct 99), 5.6 (mar 00), 4.15 (sep 99), the extended play collection vol 2, best of the cd vol 2 |
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05:33
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Nintendud |
if I want to be lazy about it |
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05:33
🔗
|
Nintendud |
Lord_Nigh: 1 sec, let me see which of those I need... |
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05:36
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|
Lord_Nigh |
i also have some non pc-gamer cover cds: boot magazine bootdisc 15, pcxl varitey pack 19 (mar 00), CGW aug 99 cg-rom, and the original chex quest cereal box cd with its booklet |
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05:37
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Nintendud |
Lord_Nigh: from pc gamer, I only need extended play vol 2. if you could provide the disc image + scans, that would be excellent |
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05:37
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Nintendud |
the rest of the cover discs you should probably upload yourself. |
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05:38
🔗
|
Nintendud |
I haven't started harvesting over coverdiscs... yet |
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05:39
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|
Nintendud |
s/over/other |
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05:40
🔗
|
Nintendud |
underscor: I'll take a look at this S3 stuff tomorrow. I think I'm going to head to bed now |
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05:40
🔗
|
Nintendud |
thanks for the information |
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05:41
🔗
|
Nintendud |
Lord_Nigh: let me know if you're able to rip and/or scan that extended play vol 2 disc. :) |
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05:41
🔗
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Nintendud |
I'm very interested. I'm quite close to having all of the PC gamer coverdiscs |
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05:43
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|
Lord_Nigh |
ok i can rip it easily enough |
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05:43
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|
Lord_Nigh |
what res do you want it scanned at |
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05:43
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Nintendud |
hmm |
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05:44
🔗
|
Nintendud |
I dunno what IA typically wants, but most of my scans are at 600DPI |
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05:44
🔗
|
Nintendud |
that or above is just dandy |
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05:44
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Lord_Nigh |
oh i have one more pcgamer disc |
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05:44
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Nintendud |
which one/ |
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05:44
🔗
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Nintendud |
?* |
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05:44
🔗
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Lord_Nigh |
4.13 jul 99 |
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05:45
🔗
|
Lord_Nigh |
that one is missing the sleeve though |
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05:45
🔗
|
Lord_Nigh |
so its just the disc |
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05:45
🔗
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Nintendud |
Already got that one. :) |
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05:45
🔗
|
Lord_Nigh |
i assume ia wants scans of both sides of the sleeve and of the disc itself |
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05:45
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Nintendud |
Yup! |
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05:45
🔗
|
Nintendud |
Front+back sleeve + disc top |
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05:46
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|
Nintendud |
Thanks so much. I feel so close to completing this set. |
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05:46
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Lord_Nigh |
as for disc image do you want it in bin/cue or .iso or something else? |
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05:46
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Nintendud |
If it's a single track disc, I've been using .iso. For multitrack, I use .bin/.cue |
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05:47
🔗
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Lord_Nigh |
i honestly have no idea how many tracks this has... |
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05:47
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Nintendud |
Most have a single track. |
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05:47
🔗
|
Nintendud |
It'll only be multitrack if it has audio tracks on it |
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05:47
🔗
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DFJustin |
I use imgburn which auto-picks iso or bin/cue depending on whether it can fit in iso format or not |
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05:47
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Nintendud |
Some of the older games used redbook audio. |
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05:48
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Lord_Nigh |
also since i'm in win 7/x64 i can't run xduplicator to create bin/cue anyway |
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05:48
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Nintendud |
I use ISOBuster so I can use the hash with redump.org |
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05:48
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Lord_Nigh |
is imgburn free? is isobuster free? |
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05:48
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Nintendud |
isobuster is free w/ a nag screen |
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05:48
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Nintendud |
imgburn is totally free. |
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05:48
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|
Lord_Nigh |
by hash you mean an md5 or whatnot of the entire file? |
|
05:49
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|
Lord_Nigh |
filealyzer can do that easily |
|
05:49
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Nintendud |
Yeah. Redump.org has a strict procedure for ripping discs for its database |
|
05:49
🔗
|
Nintendud |
You'd have to use isobuster and extract it as RAW data. It's easy enough with a single track disc. |
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05:49
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|
Lord_Nigh |
... do i have to follow that? |
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05:49
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|
Nintendud |
If you want to! It's extra credit |
|
05:50
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|
Lord_Nigh |
... |
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05:50
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|
Nintendud |
It's not required for IA |
|
05:50
🔗
|
Lord_Nigh |
my main issue is i don't want any crapware installed |
|
05:50
🔗
|
Nintendud |
It only requires isobuster |
|
05:50
🔗
|
Nintendud |
If you're interested, I can walk you through it |
|
05:50
🔗
|
Nintendud |
isobuster isn't crapware, although you have to uncheck a box during installation to avoid a browser bar installation |
|
05:52
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DFJustin |
underscor: there's still a couple more kicking around http://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3A%22opensource%22%20AND%20%28subject%3A%22magazine%20coverdiscs%22%29 |
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05:55
🔗
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Nintendud |
Lord_Nigh: anyway, let me know what you want to do. I should be heading to bed soonish, but I can help you if you need it. |
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05:58
🔗
|
DFJustin |
if you're still missing some pcg discs you might hit up this guy http://demu.org/news-detailed/11 |
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05:59
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Nintendud |
DFJustin: sweet, thanks. |
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05:59
🔗
|
Nintendud |
I'm missing most of the newer ones that are past UG's 'safe' range |
|
06:00
🔗
|
Nintendud |
and I have no idea how many 'special' discs there are (e.g. 'extended play' and such) |
|
06:00
🔗
|
Nintendud |
I'll ping him about IA |
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06:01
🔗
|
Lord_Nigh |
scanning cd and sleeve first |
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06:01
🔗
|
Lord_Nigh |
doing so now |
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06:01
🔗
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Nintendud |
Lord_Nigh: excellent, thanks! |
|
06:02
🔗
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DFJustin |
he's admin of http://archive.org/details/classicpcgames so he knows how to do it |
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06:03
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Nintendud |
DFJustin: thanks for the context |
|
06:04
🔗
|
Nintendud |
I'm pretty sure I remember his nickname from somewhere |
|
06:04
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|
Nintendud |
is he on UG too? |
|
06:05
🔗
|
Nintendud |
OH. Yup. |
|
06:05
🔗
|
Nintendud |
I know that avatar. |
|
06:06
🔗
|
Nintendud |
Ahhh... he was in the N64 group buy and I received some bungie games from him at one point |
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06:14
🔗
|
Nintendud |
emailed |
|
06:15
🔗
|
Nintendud |
I'm going to be quite excited if I can see this to completion |
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06:29
🔗
|
Lord_Nigh |
sorry, had some issues, had to recalibrate scanner to its it8 target again |
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06:31
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|
Nintendud |
no problem |
|
06:31
🔗
|
Nintendud |
let me know if you need my assistance |
|
06:31
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|
Nintendud |
I'm definitely going to bed in the next 30 mins though |
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06:32
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|
Lord_Nigh |
ok i do need assistance for setting up the cd ripping |
|
06:32
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|
Lord_Nigh |
you say use isobuster? |
|
06:32
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|
Lord_Nigh |
one sec lemme download it |
|
06:32
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|
godane |
i just noticed MacAddict on cbbsarchive |
|
06:33
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Nintendud |
yeah |
|
06:33
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godane |
just thinking that may need a sub-colliction |
|
06:34
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Nintendud |
Lord_Nigh: yeah, with ISOBuster, follow the four bullet points under 'dumping the data track with isobuster'. http://redump.org/guide/cddumping/ |
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06:34
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Nintendud |
That's all you need to do to make a single-track disc redump quality |
|
06:35
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|
Lord_Nigh |
ok one sec |
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06:35
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|
Lord_Nigh |
installing |
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06:36
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Nintendud |
sure |
|
06:39
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Lord_Nigh |
installed, |
|
06:40
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godane |
downloading Apple Magazine |
|
06:40
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Nintendud |
sweet |
|
06:40
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|
godane |
may OCD is testing the 3tb limit |
|
06:40
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|
godane |
still have 1.4tb to go |
|
06:43
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|
godane |
good news is bought 18 bluray discs the other day |
|
06:43
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|
godane |
there verbatim |
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06:44
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|
godane |
i could only get them in the 3 pack for 5.99 |
|
06:44
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|
godane |
at bestbuy |
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06:45
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Lord_Nigh |
Nintendud: ok i got an iso (this is of a different cd, the pcg cd is still in the scanner) |
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06:45
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|
Lord_Nigh |
where do i SEND isos etc? |
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06:46
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Nintendud |
Lord_Nigh: http://archive.org/upload/ |
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06:46
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Nintendud |
unfortunately, I need to head to bed now. :( will you be online tomorrow? |
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06:47
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Lord_Nigh |
yes |
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06:47
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Nintendud |
cool! if you don't upload pcg to archive.org, we can talk tomorrow about sending it over |
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06:47
🔗
|
Nintendud |
goodnight |
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06:47
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|
* |
Nintendud is afk |
|
07:56
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|
Lord_Nigh |
Nintendud: for when you get back: the pcg best of cd v2 has three audio tracks (!) |
|
08:30
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|
Lord_Nigh |
Nintendud: worked halfway thru the redump.org checklist for how to read cds to calculate the exact write offset and got stuck |
|
08:30
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|
Lord_Nigh |
the "exact number of rows" thing doesn't work |
|
08:30
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|
Lord_Nigh |
there are 3 sectors which give an error if i try to seek to them |
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08:30
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|
Lord_Nigh |
sectors after those are all gap (zeroes) |
|
08:31
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|
Lord_Nigh |
sectors before those are data |
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08:31
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Schbirid |
isnt it fucking annoying to rip those CDs? |
|
08:31
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|
Schbirid |
i always give up |
|
08:31
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Lord_Nigh |
maybe a different cd would work better |
|
08:32
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|
Lord_Nigh |
i have the battle chess dos cd which is ANNOYING AS HELL |
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08:32
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Lord_Nigh |
because the game actually DEPENDS on the offset being a certain way or the music and sound on the cd plays out of sync with the animation |
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08:33
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|
Lord_Nigh |
i have two battle chess cds; one is from the ?first pressing? and one from the ?Second? |
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08:33
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|
Lord_Nigh |
the offsets are very slightly different! |
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09:05
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|
Lord_Nigh |
ok, the 1993 pressing looks to have an offset of... lets see... |
|
09:11
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|
Lord_Nigh |
write offset is +0 |
|
09:11
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|
Lord_Nigh |
combined offset is 2 sectors long of +79 |
|
09:11
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|
Lord_Nigh |
the lookup for drive shows an offset of +667, which *4 is 2668, which is more than one sector |
|
09:12
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|
Lord_Nigh |
subtract 2352 to see how much in the second sector it is in bytes, and it is 316 |
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09:12
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|
Lord_Nigh |
find samples, which is 316/4 which is... 79! |
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09:12
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|
Lord_Nigh |
so the write offset is ZERO and the read offset is EXACTLY 667 |
|
09:13
🔗
|
Lord_Nigh |
in fact the redump.org instructions here are SCREWED UP |
|
09:13
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|
Lord_Nigh |
they assumed the offset would never be more than the size of a sector the way they wrote it |
|
09:13
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|
Lord_Nigh |
and expect you to use an offset of 79 where the correct offset is 667 |
|
09:14
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|
Lord_Nigh |
all rips done following their instructions in this case will have an extra sector of gibberish at the beginning and some stuff truncated off the end |
|
09:24
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|
Lord_Nigh |
each sector holds 588 samples |
|
09:26
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Lord_Nigh |
what i find kind of interesting is what is in those 667 bytes of garbage which the drive returns; they seem to be 'scrambled' data, and at offset 76*4 what looks like a valid data sector header appears but with an invalid/gibberish ID... i wonder if the fact that the offset is so large is actually a firmware bug on the drives (since theres about 6-8 external hp usb cd/dvd drives with this same offset) |
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Lord_Nigh |
scrambled using the LFSR that cds are "encoded" with at a low level |
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winr4r |
crazy |
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Nintendud |
Lord_Nigh: oh man, if it has multiple tracks, don't bother with the redump method |
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Nintendud |
I've NEVER been able to successfully do those. |
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Nintendud |
and their guide is terrible |
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Nintendud |
sorry that you had to go through that...! |
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Schbirid |
oh god please share any better way |
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16:38
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Nintendud |
I only know how to rip single track discs for them |
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16:38
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Nintendud |
For my purposes, making a .bin/.cue copy with imgburn is fine |
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16:38
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Nintendud |
I've been meaning to go through 'training' to learn how to dump multitrack discs |
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16:39
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Nintendud |
I also hear that a number of drives just aren't suitable for it too |
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Nintendud |
-_- |
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Nintendud |
Lord_Nigh: also, I only need the extended play vol 2 disc |
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Schbirid |
:( |
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Schbirid |
single track is easy enough |
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Nintendud |
thankfully |
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16:42
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Nintendud |
I actually bought a second CD drive so I can eventually learn how to rip the multitrack discs |
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18:33
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Lord_Nigh |
Nintendud: the cd has 22 audio tracks btw (battle chess) |
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18:33
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Lord_Nigh |
this is like the cd from hell |
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18:34
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Lord_Nigh |
the pc gamer cd has 3 audio tracks |
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18:34
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Lord_Nigh |
battle chess also seems to have NO PREGAPS between tracks |
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18:36
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balrog_ |
how about using EAC to rip the audio tracks? |
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balrog_ |
or XLD on a MAc |
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18:37
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balrog_ |
Mac* |
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Lord_Nigh |
redump's crazy instructions INVOLVE EAC |
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balrog_ |
link them? |
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18:37
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Lord_Nigh |
http://redump.org/guide/cddumping/ |
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18:38
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Lord_Nigh |
both EAC and isobuster are used |
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18:39
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balrog_ |
yeah, I see. |
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18:39
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balrog_ |
isobuster for the data portion |
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18:40
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Lord_Nigh |
isobuster also for the raw read stuff to find the write offset, which in the case of battle chess is ZERO, but in the case of the pc gamer cd i cannot find ebcause the cd drive gives errors on the 3 relevant sectors, possibly due to some issue when the cd was pressed |
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balrog_ |
ugh |
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balrog_ |
and another drive doesn't show any difference? |
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18:40
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Lord_Nigh |
i don't have another drive |
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18:41
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Lord_Nigh |
that i can use with isobuster and eac |
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18:41
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Lord_Nigh |
easily |
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balrog_ |
there's gotta be other software that can do raw 2352-byte dumps |
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Lord_Nigh |
there may be but nothing is open source afaik |
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Lord_Nigh |
NOTHING |
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19:05
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Lord_Nigh |
except for cdrdao |
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Lord_Nigh |
and cdrdao is commandline only |
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Lord_Nigh |
xduplicator is a frontend for cdrdao, but *drumroll* is not open source! |
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winr4r |
dd? |
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balrog_ |
I doubt dd can read 2352-byte sectors |
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winr4r |
yeah, sorry for jumping in without context |
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winr4r |
i'm sure you've thought of this shit |
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Lord_Nigh |
dd reads 2048 bytes |
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Lord_Nigh |
per sector |
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Lord_Nigh |
iirc |
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19:18
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Lord_Nigh |
misses header, subchannels and ecc data and checksum |
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balrog_ |
cdrdao read-cd --read-raw may work |
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19:19
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balrog_ |
we need an alternative to isobuster imho |
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Coderjoe |
does anyone know of any documentation of the arj password protection system? my last attempt to find such has failed |
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Coderjoe |
(short of possibly having source code to an opensource implementation, but at the time I was not in the mood to dig through all the source looking for it) |
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Coderjoe |
I'm also curious about rar password protection |
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balrog_ |
rar ... check the unarchiver |
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Coderjoe |
i'm more curious about arj. I had done some work on a zip password recovery tool (which could still use work). However, I have some passworded arj files I made in the early-to-mid 90s that I no longer remember the password for |
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Coderjoe |
though I can see a similar issue with other archive formats in the future |
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Nintendud |
Lord_Nigh: seriously, you don't have to follow redump instructions... they are probably incorrect. |
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Nintendud |
unless your masochistic or something |
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21:35
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Nintendud |
you're* |
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Lord_Nigh |
i followed them anyway |
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Lord_Nigh |
they need fixing badly |
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Lord_Nigh |
but i followed the spirit of the instructions |
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21:37
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Lord_Nigh |
this pc gamer cd is a good example of where their instructions fail badly, when there is a BLANK GAP not even valid scrambled data between data and audio the cd drive gives an error instead opf showing styuff |
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Lord_Nigh |
maybe certain cd firmwares have no issue but this one does |
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Lord_Nigh |
i.e. 3 LBA addresses are INVALID and point to unreadable crap |
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balrog_ |
Lord_Nigh: sometime we have to go over them |
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balrog_ |
I'd like to add cdrdao as an alternative dumping util |
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Lord_Nigh |
also their instructions fail when a drive is known to have an offset larger than 588 |
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Coderjoe |
ripping some CD+G discs (mostly from a company named "Sound Choice") is a pain in the arse, because they screwed with the TOC in such a way that a simple CD or CD+G player wouldn't care, but a computer drive and software will freak out |
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Lord_Nigh |
is that like the way that certain cd-i ready cds with a corrupt TOC like "the apprentice" are a huge pain in the ass to dump? |
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Coderjoe |
(Sound Choice are assholes that think they are above copyright allowances for making copies) |
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Lord_Nigh |
because the first data sector appears in the pregap |
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Coderjoe |
i have no experience with cd-i |
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21:43
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Lord_Nigh |
honestly i have no idea how those ended up getting a CD logo on them because i think the violate the greenbook cd-i and cd-xa standards |
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Coderjoe |
but some tracks are labled as data tracks or the like when you pull it up in various computer software |
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21:45
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Coderjoe |
I'd pull one up in EAC or isobuster for illustration, but I need to finish getting ready to leave |
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21:45
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Coderjoe |
perhaps when I return home |
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21:45
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balrog_ |
btw, XLD for Mac has a nice ripping enging |
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21:45
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balrog_ |
engine* |
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21:45
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Coderjoe |
(I also don't have EAC or isobuster installed at the moment) |
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21:46
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balrog_ |
it can handle a lot of discs that others have trouble with, and gives even better results |
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21:47
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Lord_Nigh |
grr track3 of the best of the cd cd keeps giving test vs rip checksum inconsistency in eac |
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21:47
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balrog_ |
Lord_Nigh: try XLD in a MAc |
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balrog_ |
Mac |
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21:47
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balrog_ |
* |
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21:48
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Lord_Nigh |
i can try... |
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21:48
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Lord_Nigh |
i need to know whats eating all but 5gb of space on the g4 though |
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21:48
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balrog_ |
be sure to have the config set up right |
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21:48
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balrog_ |
probably the memac stuff |
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21:48
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balrog_ |
delete all the completed memac stuff, and only the completed stuff |
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21:49
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Lord_Nigh |
where? |
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22:02
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Lord_Nigh |
ooh VERY INTERESTING! |
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22:02
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Lord_Nigh |
the 1991 pressing of battle chess has a BIG write offset |
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22:02
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Lord_Nigh |
the 1993 pressing has a write offset of ZERO |
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22:03
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Lord_Nigh |
probably better equipment on the latter |
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22:03
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Lord_Nigh |
different company too |
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22:03
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Lord_Nigh |
on the cd ring |
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22:03
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Lord_Nigh |
lemme calc write offset... |
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22:05
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Lord_Nigh |
drive read offset is 79+588 = 667 |
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22:06
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Lord_Nigh |
the combined offset is 301+588 |
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22:06
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Lord_Nigh |
so the write offset is 301-79 = 222 samples |
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22:07
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Lord_Nigh |
that's quite a bit, and may explain some desync issues i had back in the day... |
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22:07
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Lord_Nigh |
well slight desync |
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23:10
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Lord_Nigh |
Nintendud: i should have the files all together for the pcgamer best of cd soon |
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23:11
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Lord_Nigh |
the audio track2 MIGHT have one or two bad samples |
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23:14
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Lord_Nigh |
Nintendud: should i convert the tif scans to png? i assume yes |
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23:39
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Lord_Nigh |
grr it loses the embedded color profile if i do that so i left them as tif |
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23:50
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godane |
hey everyone |
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23:50
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godane |
was asleep for 12 hours |