[00:29] so i fixed the occuprint.org mirror to work on localhost [01:09] hey S[h]O[r]T [01:50] looked like techcrunch.com/2008/11 failed on me [01:50] the first 5 days was not downloaded [01:50] will try again [02:16] blarg [02:17] skip (or someone uploading under his account) is fudging metadata. [02:17] such as one item that is a black and white silent film but the metadata says "sound, color" [02:21] Coderjoe: THe metadata's fine - you just need to take more hallucinogens before watching [02:28] you mean so that instead of seeing the intertitles with the dialogue, I hear them? [02:28] dude! I can hear green! [02:30] got my url script for engadget [02:30] i just don't think there is a way to add multiable urls into one warc.gz [02:31] most cause it can't be done in like a loop [02:32] i wonder if -i can be used with the mirror commands [02:32] you can also specify multiple urls on the command line [02:33] so just make it one big string then? [02:34] my script makes a list of urls [02:34] how do you convert it from a list to one big string? [04:47] good morning my loves [04:47] Shush honey, the game's on [04:48] haha. [05:52] hey winr4r [06:11] hi godane :) [06:11] what have you been archiving lately? [06:11] i backed up occuprint.org [06:11] cool. :) [06:11] since there is nothing in the wayback magazine [06:12] i had to change the .tar.gz mirror dump though [06:12] good job [06:12] this was so the files didn't need to be changed [06:13] for i in $(echo $web); do [06:13] mkdir -p $(basename $i .html) [06:13] mv -f -$i $(basename $i .html)/index.html [06:14] done [06:14] also web=$(ls *.html) [06:14] this need to be done for mirror dump to work offline [06:15] occupywallst.org is not even archived [06:16] now i think i have to do a dump of that too [06:23] way back magazine has no reason to not archive these sites [06:24] the robots are no around [06:55] YOUR INTEREST PAID WAS CALCULATED USING YOUR DAILY BALANCE FOR 32 DAYS FOR AN ANNUAL PERCENTAGE YIELD EARNED OF 0.01%. THIS BRINGS YOUR YTD INTEREST PAID TO 0 . 0 1 . [06:55] w00t [06:55] $0.01 interest this month on my checking account [07:01] hey underscor [07:04] hai [07:04] going to zzz very soon [07:10] underscor: i got occuprint.org [07:10] underscor, nooooooo [07:10] I need someone intelligent to talk to [07:25] underscor: don't spend it all at once kid [07:29] godane: if they're less than six months old, i think, then the archives are not publically available [07:30] ok [07:37] uploading another gbtv episode [08:23] You just submit the Kickstarter project SketchCow? [08:26] http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/742794980/citi-bois-first-music-video?ref=recently_launched [08:28] lol, someone pledged but didn't even pick a pledge level [08:46] the ouya console got 6.6 million dollars [09:06] the most recently indexed wayback entries are actually over a year old right now [09:07] so anything newer than july 2011 won't show up [09:07] not sure what the holdup is [09:33] there always is a delay [09:36] well I would expect there to be a rolling delay, it hasn't budged in months [09:36] iirc there is a note about wayback delay in the faqs somewhere [09:37] at least i remember wondering many years ago [12:19] glenn beck borrowed the lincoln desk [12:34] sooo errrm wtf [12:34] I remove all the dust/hair from my fan intakes..... the temp rises. [12:35] thats not good [12:45] yah, confused [12:45] unless more dust went in :/ [12:45] I'll clean it out shortly [12:45] ah well my frog tank is clean now at least :) [13:45] i got 2.3 gb of techcrunch.com [13:49] uploading my occuprint.org mirror [15:20] yoohoo is awesome [15:43] 0.01% not 0.10%? (both are pretty damn terrible rates, though) [15:47] hmmm here in the UK we don't do the whole debit/checking account thing [15:47] but a "default" account has 0.01; at least I have one account with that low of a rate. [15:49] SimleyG: Dunno about the bank underscor's at, but even regular savings accounts have shit rates at a lot of US banks now. Sub-1% APR on mine last I checked. Or maybe 1% on the dot. [15:53] hmmmm saving accounts I'm not sure of here now [15:53] * SmileyG googles and sees around 4% for the cash isas (Tax free) [16:00] Yeah, nothing like that around here. Since my savings account is a holdover from Wachovia, it's up at 3/4% or so (hard to get them to actually say what it is online). [16:01] A new one is 0.01%, at which point you might as well just stuff cash under your mattress. [16:02] Last time I saw savings accounts with more than a percent or two for a rate was before the housing bubble popped. [16:17] http://iobound.com/pareidoloop/ [16:20] 3 [16:20] burning another bluray [16:28] so a possibly rhetorical question: is it better to try to do something perfectly, and only make a little progress, or make some compromises so you can actually finish the project? [16:33] depends on the project... [16:43] if women then the latter [16:45] I've been trying to dump all my VHS tapes to DVD, and I thought I would dump to a lossless format, then do all the work from there. I'm now leaning towards just using my hardware capture card to make DVD video out of it right away. [16:45] I've got commercial movies and a pile of tapes with things taped from TV. [16:46] dashcloud: any techtv stuff? [16:47] nope- just broadcast TV stuff [16:47] ok [16:58] uploaded: http://archive.org/details/occuprint.org-20120804-mirror [16:59] i explained my changes to the .tar.gz mirror dump the best i could [17:27] i don't fully understand the topic, i demand a explanation right now [17:33] What about it? [17:59] which topic? [17:59] :D [17:59] Oh [18:05] http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p9Mhu2LAlRY/TAHCLo19lLI/AAAAAAAAATA/swqV9fdAs2Q/s1600/11430353.jpg [18:07] the magicans job? [18:08] my occupation, ghost [19:10] Anyone have an opinion on the best piece of hardware and software to use when transferring Apple formatted 5.25" floppies to a modern PC. (with the use of an Apple 5.25" external disk drive and without the Apple II) [19:10] dd... [19:10] not sure of hardware... [19:15] http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Rescuing_Floppy_Disks [19:15] Hardware? Discferret, but software side it's a bit deficient [19:15] We're trying to work on that though [19:16] well I thought the linu kernel stil had supporyt for the old apple drives? [19:16] You'd need a Mac though [19:16] not if the kernel has support. [19:17] Hmm? [19:17] How would that work? [19:17] The Apple drives have nonstandard hardware [19:17] Won't mount as fd.... [19:17] balrog_: the kernel contains the drivers; you just need the hardware... [19:17] (if) [19:18] And how do you connect the hardware? [19:18] http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/MAC_FLOPPY.html <<< these ones. [19:18] balrog_: not sure; I've never seen one [19:18] Yeah that's for Linux on Macs [19:19] Ok, so what connector does this external drive have? [19:19] without knowing that we can't say anything else :/ [19:19] just a sec [19:19] Apple 19-pin [19:20] db19? [19:20] It's 19 pin [19:21] named Apple 5.25 Drive [19:21] http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/MAC_FLOPPY.html [19:21] model number A9M0107 [19:21] Using Apple drives to image disks is not so good because of lack of index [19:21] errr [19:21] wrong link [19:21] http://www.thesvd.com/svd/apple-2c-notes.php#cable [19:21] thyere we go [19:21] wish I could wire up cables now; [19:22] It wouldn't be so easy anyway :( [19:23] hmmmm [19:23] link to what it looks like http://www.vintagemacworld.com/drives/app525.jpg [19:24] oooo pretty [19:25] Yeah I have several of those things [19:26] http://www.deviceside.com/fc5025.html [19:26] go gogo [19:26] those are not too bad but a bit limited [19:26] SmileyG: That doesn't work with copy protected disks [19:27] yeah [19:27] discferret does but I need to put more time into doing the software [19:27] :/ [19:27] Your the dev? [19:27] cool [19:27] I'm one of the software devs [19:27] we're short right now :/ [19:27] I'd like to do something that can be used for the file format project too [19:28] or rather can help with that [19:28] since disk formats and file formats have a lot in common [19:29] there's some working decoder support in MESS right now [19:30] balrog_: Should I wait until discferret is more developed [19:30] ? [19:30] oh [19:30] kryoflux people don't have much support for Apple II formats, especially protected, because they're hard [19:30] the Apple II gave developers raw access to the floppy drive [19:31] and that 19-pin connector gives direct stepper control [19:31] so there were some rather crazy forms of protection [19:31] the other issue with Apple II is that index hole [19:32] and flippy disks [19:32] apple drives lack index sensing [19:35] a question about flippies: how come they were evidently easy enough to read/write then, but (presumably) the same drive hooked up to a computer can't read them now? [19:35] this is something i've not understood [19:35] okay [19:35] the original Apple II did not have an index hole sensor *at all* [19:36] however, copy protected disks were often written with software that used critical timing loops or with duplicators [19:36] and copy protection used sync-locked tracks [19:37] gotcha [19:37] now, when you use a double sided floppy drive to read a disk, the heads are offset [19:37] and the bottom head can't reach the first tracks on one of the sides [19:37] hacking the track 0 sensor can cause alignment issues :( [19:37] ah :( [19:38] so the way we've done it so far is by adding an additional index sensor [19:38] there were some photos on SketchCow's flickr of this mod :P [19:41] okay, that makes sense now [19:41] woah deep :< [19:42] hio SmileyG [19:42] balrog_: when you said kryoflux people don't have much support for Apple II formats did you mean to say discferret people? [19:43] I'm confused in what you recommend I should do to dump these floppies [19:43] (Totally new to Apple II hardware) [19:44] arkhive: I meant kryoflux people — if you're not familiar with the kryoflux, they make a board to read disks but they're mainly amiga focused [19:44] and their software is closed :/ [19:45] ah [19:45] copy protection is a pain, and Apple II copy protection makes Amiga stuff look easy [19:45] :/ [19:52] So what do you recommend for me dumping my apple formatted floppies?(excuse my ignorance) :) [19:53] my dad has some program to clone apple II discs and somehow we managed to get the data onto a 286 from there. not with copy prptection though i guess [19:56] for non copy protected disks I'd recommend getting an apple II and a serial cable for use with adtpro [19:57] I don't think there's a solution to use the drive by itself like there is with c64 [19:59] for copy protected disks it's pretty involved, you need either a kryoflux or a discferret and a PC 5.25" drive that's been modded to handle flippy disks [20:00] alternatively there may be somebody with the equipment who you can mail the goods to [20:04] we usually accept disks but right now we temporarily aren't [20:18] especially appleII disks [20:18] pc disks we can still do, but appleII we have a large backlog filling 2 cardboard boxes [20:33] hmm [20:33] thinking about hacking up cwtool [20:34] what do you think, Lord_Nigh ? [20:34] I think it would be a decent stopgap [20:36] cwtool to use the df? would be nice... [20:36] but it can only read unprotected a2 disks anyway [20:38] yeah, but it would make the df much more useful at this point [20:44] i suppose [20:45] maybe ask karsten if he wants one of the 4 extras... [23:02] woo [23:02] 6 hours 30 minutes, bitches [23:08] Coderjoe: SmileyG: that was checking. my savings is 0.11% but I think I'm in the lowest balance bracket right now