#archiveteam-bs 2012-08-10,Fri

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Time Nickname Message
01:05 🔗 mistym God I love this rice cooker. It just announced it was done by playing a beepy little song from the other room.
01:24 🔗 shaqfu I'm jealous - mine just clicks
01:25 🔗 Coderjoe mine clicks and illuminates a light/LED
01:25 🔗 Coderjoe it might be possible to hook that to trigger playback of a sound
01:27 🔗 shaqfu Hook it up to pcspkr
01:28 🔗 shaqfu When the system bell goes off, you either hit backspace one too many times or your rice is done
01:37 🔗 Lord_Nigh or the cat peed into the back of the pc again
02:14 🔗 Coderjoe or the kids spilled a milkshare into the laptop again
02:14 🔗 Coderjoe (yeah, I've seen that in a friend's system that I was asked to work on)
02:17 🔗 shaqfu Coderjoe: That must've been a blast to clean
02:17 🔗 shaqfu Lots of Q-tips and alcohol to get the sugar out?
02:20 🔗 Coderjoe yeah
03:13 🔗 SketchCow https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/302176_2206825263061_1656395948_n.jpg
03:20 🔗 Lord_Nigh lol
03:23 🔗 Nintendud HAH
03:23 🔗 Nintendud er, hah*. capslock.
03:27 🔗 Lord_Nigh did the pc gamer thing get uploaded?
03:43 🔗 Nintendud Not yet. I've had a lot on my plate.
03:44 🔗 Nintendud I want to get it up soon, but I'm dealing with real life right now
05:05 🔗 Lord_Nigh Nintendud: understandable
08:06 🔗 Coderjoe ooh
08:06 🔗 Coderjoe http://www.atcomputing.nl/Tools/cowloop/
08:08 🔗 Coderjoe needs to be updated, but that would be quite handy for a number of things, such has data recovery, where a filesystem won't mount until you fsck it or mount it writable (but you want to mount it read-only)
08:11 🔗 Coderjoe supposedly deprecated in favor of the device mapper snapshot target used for LVM2
08:12 🔗 Coderjoe but I have not yet discovered documentation on how to use that directly (without LVM)
08:12 🔗 Coderjoe but apparently I just didn't look hard enough, as there apear to be docs in the kernel doc dree
08:13 🔗 Coderjoe tree
08:30 🔗 SketchCow http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/textfiles/the-information-cube-20/posts/285382
08:36 🔗 Coderjoe haha
08:50 🔗 ersi SmileyG: Where do you work, again? :P
08:50 🔗 ersi Why the fuck would one restart a server :D
08:51 🔗 SmileyG because devs are dumb
08:51 🔗 SmileyG especially the one who thinks he knows linux :S
08:51 🔗 SmileyG (I *do* know linux)
08:51 🔗 ersi Sounds like a fun corp to work at
08:51 🔗 SmileyG When hes testing etc, he'll just randomly reboot
08:52 🔗 SmileyG And I'm like "o_O"?
08:52 🔗 ersi testing what? :o
08:52 🔗 SmileyG my eyes so wide that my eyebrows slid off;
08:52 🔗 SmileyG oh asterisk and dadhi
08:52 🔗 SmileyG His methods are "throw stuff at it, see what sticks"
08:52 🔗 SmileyG yet when my boss does that he badmouths him for it.
08:52 🔗 ersi Mmmh..
08:53 🔗 SmileyG and this guy is joining the IT team... ¬_¬
08:53 🔗 * SmileyG will enjoy not being the one to break things
08:54 🔗 SmileyG Yes stuff does break around me, but its stuff thats been decommisioned and I'm just seeing how far I can push it
08:54 🔗 SmileyG Such as the double HDD failure in a raid on monday;
08:54 🔗 SmileyG :D
08:54 🔗 SmileyG Raid 5, two of the 3 drives died within about 10 minutes
08:55 🔗 SmileyG so now I get to figure out how to install on a box with no input methods that work :D
08:55 🔗 SmileyG cdrom is dead; doesn't USB boot;
08:56 🔗 SmileyG So PXE; except how do you go about installing centOS via PXE :S
08:59 🔗 SmileyG such a fugly OS to install
09:06 🔗 SketchCow sh tarbaker PICPLZ PICPLZ-TARS 50000000000
09:06 🔗 SketchCow The fun begins
09:06 🔗 SketchCow turning PICPLZ into piles of tars.
09:08 🔗 Coderjoe I'll sometimes restart a server to make sure everything comes up right on its own after making config changes.
09:08 🔗 Coderjoe or to upgrade the kernel
09:08 🔗 SketchCow Finished hitlist number: 0
09:08 🔗 SketchCow Finished hitlist number: 1
09:08 🔗 SketchCow it goes pretty quickly, putting together the lists.
09:09 🔗 SketchCow then I run a script that goes through the lists and turns them into .tar files.
09:42 🔗 SmileyG Coderjoe: yah then it makes sense; but not just because "oh something didn't work so I tried a reboot for luls"
09:44 🔗 ersi Coderjoe: That's one thing.. Just rebooting because you have no clue what the fuck you're doing is a completely other one
09:53 🔗 SmileyG yup
10:08 🔗 SmileyG http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/08/10/026256/ask-slashdot-simple-way-to-backup-24tb-of-data-onto-usb-hdds- << lol wut?
10:09 🔗 SmileyG and I seem to be the only person who suggested bash can do what he wants ¬_¬
11:20 🔗 emijrp Internet being erased by time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:15346_Purila_m%C3%B5is.jpg
11:32 🔗 SmileyG the pile of bricks in teh centre....
11:32 🔗 SmileyG DNS? ;)
11:43 🔗 emijrp oldest data storing hardware in the world: STONE
11:44 🔗 SmileyG :)
11:44 🔗 emijrp and best one
11:44 🔗 emijrp but a bit slow
11:44 🔗 SmileyG light?
11:44 🔗 SmileyG just not easily recievable
12:16 🔗 C-Keen I have to say this archiving is getting addicting
12:23 🔗 C-Keen what happens to the stuff a warrior uploads to IA? does that become automatically available through the web interface?
12:23 🔗 C-Keen or does it get sorted by a human somehow?
12:47 🔗 ersi C-Keen: It'll be curated before going into IA
12:52 🔗 C-Keen so where is the data being pushed to?
13:15 🔗 ersi C-Keen: A box at IA.. But it's not *ingested* into the Internet Archive's archives
13:15 🔗 ersi it's just loose data until it's curated
13:15 🔗 C-Keen I see
13:26 🔗 SketchCow Mostly I swim around in it like Scrooge McDuck
13:28 🔗 godane SketchCow: i'm doing a full backup warc.gz of ifpi.org
13:28 🔗 godane this way we have all the pdf files saved
13:38 🔗 godane i got a 160+ pdfs from ifpi.org
13:38 🔗 godane :-D
13:39 🔗 godane there is even some wma and mp3 files on there site
13:42 🔗 godane its done
13:57 🔗 godane uploading my ifpi.org dump
16:43 🔗 underscor DFJustin: Yeah, but we still dark most of them, if they link offsite
16:46 🔗 DFJustin example https://archive.org/details/Wireless_Internet_Documentary
16:47 🔗 DFJustin looks like it could use a rederive now that ffmpeg's wmv handling is less broken though
16:48 🔗 underscor DFJustin: Kicked off a redrive
17:00 🔗 DFJustin yeah that fixed it
17:15 🔗 underscor yay
17:24 🔗 DFJustin while you're at it, can you rederive http://archive.org/details/BrainTenYrs
17:38 🔗 underscor DFJustin: Running
17:38 🔗 DFJustin thx
17:39 🔗 underscor np, thank *you*
17:39 🔗 underscor weird that didn't already have streamable derivs
17:41 🔗 DFJustin there are loads of items with that problem, I come across them all the time
17:42 🔗 underscor well, if you're willing to when you find them, query me and I'll knock them
17:49 🔗 godane i think windows 8 is going to be like windows bob
17:52 🔗 DFJustin bob was awesome I don't know why everyone hates on it
18:32 🔗 Schbirid is there any private non cookie way to make google stop fucking injecting javascript into links? if i right click a result, i want the actual url
18:32 🔗 winr4r good evening :)
18:36 🔗 godane hey winr4r
18:36 🔗 godane winr4i: I uploaded this today: http://archive.org/details/ifpi.org-20120810-mirror
18:37 🔗 winr4r excellent
19:12 🔗 shaqfu balrog_: Any interest in the checksum tool?
19:12 🔗 balrog_ shaqfu: yeah, some
19:12 🔗 balrog_ why?
19:12 🔗 shaqfu Finally got it
19:12 🔗 balrog_ oh nice
19:13 🔗 shaqfu http://therockquarry.com/Integrity_2.0.hqx
19:13 🔗 shaqfu For all your forked data needs
19:21 🔗 arkhive balrog_: It just finished ddrescue
19:35 🔗 Lord_Nigh holy crap, that took a week and a half?
19:37 🔗 arkhive ya
19:38 🔗 arkhive Waiting for balrog_ to respond to tell me the next step. (still really nervous)
19:40 🔗 shaqfu What are you doing that takes ten day ddrescues?
19:48 🔗 Schbirid oh dear, i rm -r some random directory in my home and my server stops responding :D
19:51 🔗 SmileyG whoops
19:51 🔗 SmileyG hope its just IOWait
19:51 🔗 SmileyG what was the directory?
19:51 🔗 SmileyG .ssh ? :D
19:52 🔗 Schbirid nah, some extracted robots files :(
19:52 🔗 Schbirid lighttpd down, ssh down, everything
19:54 🔗 godane i'm getting 2010-08 of techcrunch right now
19:54 🔗 godane also uploading gbtv 04-13-2012
19:55 🔗 godane i feel good that i got most of the older shows backup on archive.org
19:57 🔗 DFJustin heh they still haven't fixed the bug that firefox corrupts .hqx files
20:00 🔗 shaqfu DFJustin: Annoyingly, the best way to check the tool for corruption is to run the tool against it :(
20:01 🔗 Schbirid i should run a kickstarter for hosting archived ign crap
20:01 🔗 balrog_ DFJustin: ticket?
20:02 🔗 DFJustin https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305977
20:09 🔗 SketchCow Run a kickstarter for everything!!!!
20:10 🔗 godane SketchCow: i got ifpi.com mirrored today
20:11 🔗 godane only 277mb
20:11 🔗 godane a lot of pdfs, pictures, and docs in there
20:18 🔗 godane i'm going to save kat.ph/community
20:18 🔗 godane its there forum
20:23 🔗 shaqfu balrog_: Added to Garden
20:24 🔗 balrog_ ok....
20:30 🔗 winr4r SketchCow: hi!
20:31 🔗 SketchCow hi!
20:31 🔗 winr4r whoah i missed a whole kickstarter while i was away
20:32 🔗 winr4r http://i.imgur.com/qINL6.jpg
20:32 🔗 winr4r i've been living in that since monday
20:33 🔗 winr4r (yes it is as shitty as it looks)
20:40 🔗 shaqfu winr4r: Roughing it!
20:40 🔗 winr4r shaqfu: pretty much
20:41 🔗 winr4r shaqfu: i'm now used to sleeping comfortably across front seats now
20:41 🔗 winr4r -now
20:42 🔗 Nintendud the internet archive building is cool.
20:42 🔗 winr4r i have a friend who is a long-distance, same-day courier, so on monday, i was like fuck it, i'm going to go along with him for a week
20:43 🔗 Nintendud winr4r: nice
20:44 🔗 winr4r Nintendud: yup, did about 1500 miles and this was a *slow* week
20:45 🔗 winr4r he had a courtesy van while his van was being repaired, *once*
20:45 🔗 Nintendud nice
20:47 🔗 winr4r it took about a week to fix and when they got it back it had another 6000 miles on the clock
20:47 🔗 Nintendud sounds like a good time
20:50 🔗 winr4r at the time he was running military aircraft parts almost non-stop, RAF Marham to Lossiemouth, which is 506 miles each way
20:50 🔗 winr4r i went with him once and i looked at the inventory sheet with a price list and i was like "how fucking much?!"
20:53 🔗 winr4r true story!
20:53 🔗 Schbirid ah, a relieving rm -r http://www.quaddicted.com/munin/myhostname/myhostname/df.html
20:53 🔗 winr4r anyway, there was a kickstarter that i missed, and now that i'm caught up, i thought the kickstarter was going to be for IA hard drives, SketchCow
20:57 🔗 Schbirid http://www.michaelnielsen.org/ddi/how-to-crawl-a-quarter-billion-webpages-in-40-hours/
21:01 🔗 SketchCow No, no.
21:01 🔗 SketchCow This is a different kickstarter.
21:02 🔗 SketchCow I'm still thinking about the IA one. I may have Internet Archive do it.
21:02 🔗 SketchCow Put it through to them directly.
21:02 🔗 SketchCow Instead of through Bank of Jason
21:02 🔗 Schbirid is anyone from here coming to 29C3?
21:02 🔗 Schbirid we could have a table or something
21:03 🔗 Schbirid eg collect shitty old CDs and funds for a container to ship them to SketchCow
21:03 🔗 Schbirid by that i mean pc mag discs
21:03 🔗 SketchCow Archive Team just needs t-shirts
21:04 🔗 DFJustin or SWAT vests
21:05 🔗 Schbirid "wget -m $theinternet > archive.org"
21:06 🔗 Schbirid wasnt there a slogan page on the wiki once
21:06 🔗 soultcer Archiveteam shirts would be awesome
21:06 🔗 Schbirid "dump your data on me, i love it"
21:08 🔗 Schbirid no wait, /me looks at the topic
21:08 🔗 shaqfu "Dear Future: You're Welcome"
21:08 🔗 Schbirid "Dear History: Don't leave me"
21:08 🔗 Schbirid that sounds really emo
21:11 🔗 Schbirid "ROBOTS.TXT IS A SUICIDE NOTE"
21:12 🔗 godane "wget -m --warc-file="$theinternet" --warc-cdx $theinternet > archive.org"
21:12 🔗 Schbirid hm, that essay is a bit short-sighted
21:12 🔗 godane thats the right way to do it
21:12 🔗 Schbirid you can use robots.txt very well to not make spiders grab redundant poop
21:12 🔗 Schbirid heh
21:14 🔗 SketchCow ha ha
21:14 🔗 SketchCow It's not short-sighted.
21:14 🔗 SketchCow It's the OPPOSITE of short-sighted
21:20 🔗 ersi Or use robots.txt and make spiders grab redundant poop
21:20 🔗 ersi HURR HURR
21:20 🔗 ersi Hmmmm, funny that my Warrior hasn't finished it's three items I left it to do at work
21:21 🔗 ersi bet the warrior disk is full now.. was 12h since I started those three users
21:21 🔗 ersi :D
21:21 🔗 godane looks like this caused a url loop: http://kat.ph/community/show/37177/
21:22 🔗 ersi bam
21:22 🔗 godane its cause www.bittorrent.com and www.utorrent.com are urled like folders
21:22 🔗 Schbirid arent those fun!
21:22 🔗 ersi ie broken use of relative urls
21:24 🔗 godane i added --reject-regex='\www.' but that broke --reject-reget='\?'
21:28 🔗 Schbirid '(\/www\.|\?)' MIGHT work
21:29 🔗 Schbirid might reject everything, i have no idea
21:37 🔗 winr4r SketchCow: talking of robots.txt, can you ask someone at archive.org about fotopic.net?
21:38 🔗 winr4r SketchCow: their robots.txt threw an error of some kind, so basically none of it is available right now, and now it is gone
21:38 🔗 underscor SketchCow didn't mention me in his kickstarter update :(
21:38 🔗 underscor I'm really hurt :'(
21:39 🔗 SketchCow Or Kyle
21:39 🔗 DFJustin 200% funded, damn
21:39 🔗 underscor oh, yeah
21:39 🔗 underscor missed that
21:40 🔗 underscor still :c :c :c
21:40 🔗 underscor We're like the forgotten stepsons
21:40 🔗 SketchCow No, you're not backers
21:40 🔗 SketchCow This was a message to backers.
21:40 🔗 underscor I am a backer
21:40 🔗 SketchCow Then I made a mistake
21:40 🔗 underscor ah
21:42 🔗 underscor SketchCow: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7069/6942382385_f4dba6b1be_z.jpg is that the one from the musee mechanique?
21:42 🔗 underscor I think I remember playing with it when I was just there
21:43 🔗 underscor also, cube ks broke $4k!
21:51 🔗 godane Schbirid: i think your code will work
21:51 🔗 godane btw i power blinked earlier
21:51 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, cube is now 200% funded.
21:51 🔗 godane thats good
21:51 🔗 SketchCow http://archive.org/details/musopen-dvd is now up.
22:02 🔗 godane brb
22:10 🔗 Coderjoe Schbirid: yes, xmpp allows multiple connections using the same account, though I think you have to use different resource names (the part after the slash) and it is a good idea to be mindful of the priority values, as they are used to determine which connection a message is routed to
22:15 🔗 Coderjoe the kickstarter might get enough funding to get a second continer to put next to the first container, only slightly higher for that nice two-level effect with a little path down the middle
22:59 🔗 dashcloud don't know if anyone's looking for more servers for archive things, but the company here: http://www.serveraday.com/ seems to have a new deal every day for a server package
23:00 🔗 godane i'm back
23:00 🔗 godane just got food
23:01 🔗 godane also the kat.ph/community was only 7.4mb warc.gz
23:03 🔗 shaqfu godane: That seems oddly small; isn't it a forum?
23:07 🔗 godane shaqfu: i questioned that too
23:08 🔗 godane i did check some numbers not in community/show/#
23:09 🔗 godane like kat.ph/community/show/10421/
23:09 🔗 godane its a 404
23:09 🔗 godane but 10422 works and i have it
23:10 🔗 godane i think i know why now
23:10 🔗 godane by blocking ? in urls i blocked ?page=#
23:11 🔗 godane i'm only get the front pages of topics
23:11 🔗 shaqfu Why did you block ? to stop infinite halls?
23:22 🔗 godane shaqfu: thats was the reason for it
23:38 🔗 shaqfu godane: Wonder if it's possible to craft a regex that'll allow ?page

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