#archiveteam-bs 2012-08-29,Wed

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01:07 🔗 godane i'm starting to think that therevoltpress.org doesn't really save the right cookies
01:09 🔗 Patt godane, really? :/
01:10 🔗 godane eventhing is false when i save the cookie
01:10 🔗 Patt did you get your account approved?
01:11 🔗 godane yes
01:11 🔗 Patt hm
01:11 🔗 Patt did you try anonymous/anonymous?
01:11 🔗 godane i even reset my password
01:11 🔗 godane yes
01:11 🔗 Patt huh
01:11 🔗 Patt weird
01:14 🔗 Soojin http://archive.org/details/TheYesterdayMachine1963 A Nazi scientist invents a time machine enabling him to alter the events of WWII. Starring David Beckham http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3005953/
01:17 🔗 godane Patt: you should just ask some else to do this
01:18 🔗 Patt I didn't ask you
01:18 🔗 godane ok
02:33 🔗 Coderjoe man, looking at old aerial photos of areas you know well today is fun
02:35 🔗 Coderjoe while I was waiting for some testing to run, I pulled down some old photos ranging from 1947 to 1980 from earthexplorer.usgs.gov and positioned them in google earth (not terribly fun. I wish GE would read the GeoTIFF metadata and position using that)
02:35 🔗 Coderjoe (GE's historic view for the area I was interested in only goes back to 1997)
02:35 🔗 chronomex 1.
02:35 🔗 chronomex woop woop woop off-topic siren
02:35 🔗 chronomex 2. qgis.
02:36 🔗 Coderjoe 2. this is -bs
02:36 🔗 chronomex oh rite
02:36 🔗 chronomex woops
02:36 🔗 chronomex anyway, qgis.
02:36 🔗 Coderjoe is that available for windows?
02:36 🔗 * chronomex former geography student
02:36 🔗 chronomex um, probably
02:36 🔗 chronomex but it's linux-native so probably 0 fun to get working on w32
02:37 🔗 Coderjoe " It runs on Linux, Unix, Mac OSX, Windows and Android and supports numerous vector, raster, and database formats and functionalities."
02:37 🔗 Coderjoe hmm
02:37 🔗 Coderjoe nice
02:37 🔗 chronomex kinda slow tho
02:38 🔗 Coderjoe now if I could find some opensource software to georectify these images (and not be too terribly hard to figure out how to do so)
02:39 🔗 Coderjoe (yes, I can get the neighboring images in order to do the georectification)
02:45 🔗 winr4r wouldn't panotools and friends do that?
02:45 🔗 winr4r if you're talking about automatically aligning them
02:45 🔗 Coderjoe i am not talking about making a big image from smaller tiles
02:46 🔗 Coderjoe I am talking about warping them to undo the warping from the camera lens and the differing heights of the surface of the earth under the camera
02:47 🔗 Coderjoe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthophoto
03:40 🔗 chronomex oh, orthorectification != georectification
06:04 🔗 godane looks like there is better pdfs on computerpoweruser.com
06:04 🔗 godane and most likely with everything else too
06:34 🔗 godane groklaw pdfs from my 2004 articles warc.gz dump: http://archive.org/details/groklaw.net-pdfs-2004-20120827
07:32 🔗 chronomex 00:30:42 -!- chronomex [~chronomex@gir.seattlewireless.net] has joined #archiveteam-godane
07:32 🔗 chronomex 00:30:42 [Users #archiveteam-godane]
07:32 🔗 chronomex wat
07:32 🔗 chronomex 00:30:42 [@underscor] [ chronomex]
07:32 🔗 chronomex wat
07:32 🔗 chronomex wat wat wat
07:33 🔗 ersi :D
07:43 🔗 SketchCow hahahah
07:46 🔗 chronomex The Constitution of India is the longest written constitution of any sovereign country in the world, containing 444 articles, 12 schedules and 94 amendments, with 117,369 words in its English language version, while the United States Constitution is the shortest written constitution, at 7 articles and 27 amendments.
07:46 🔗 chronomex how telling
07:48 🔗 SmileyG Hmmm
07:48 🔗 ersi not really
07:48 🔗 SmileyG Christian Constitution weights the most, being on two stone slabs....
07:48 🔗 SmileyG 10 lines
07:48 🔗 chronomex hah
07:48 🔗 chronomex that's not a constitution, it says nothing about amendments
07:49 🔗 SmileyG I said Amendments, not commandments!
07:51 🔗 ersi suuure
07:59 🔗 Coderjoe chronomex: they aren't the same, but both need to be performed.
08:00 🔗 Coderjoe SmileyG: uh, there are 613 commandments. people only seem to remember or know about the first 10
08:00 🔗 SmileyG :)
08:00 🔗 SmileyG The rest weren't etched in stone were they?
08:00 🔗 chronomex lol, no
08:01 🔗 chronomex they're being rediscovered and named "rules of the internet"
08:01 🔗 Coderjoe there's a section of rules of the internet outlining slave ownership?
08:02 🔗 chronomex those may still be undiscovered
08:05 🔗 Coderjoe so walgreens sends out "prescription ready for pickup" emails if they have your email address on file. the message doesn't say what the drug is, but it gives some of the digits of the prescription ID: XXNNNN-XXXXX with numbers in the N positions and literal X for the X position.
08:06 🔗 Coderjoe They also include information about the store that has the prescription: store number, address, phone, etc
08:06 🔗 Coderjoe funny thing... their prescription IDs are (sequentialnumber)-(storenumber)
08:07 🔗 Coderjoe so their anonymizing only really obscures two digits
08:08 🔗 Coderjoe (the sequential portion is per store)
08:10 🔗 SketchCow Yes
08:53 🔗 instence please don't tell me you guys are archiving walgreens prescriptions
08:55 🔗 SketchCow you think we're just going to let that fade into oblivion?
08:55 🔗 instence your ambition knows no bounds
08:56 🔗 instence lol
08:56 🔗 emijrp which bounds?
08:56 🔗 instence That would be interesting though. Dumpster diving for Walgreens Receipts.
08:56 🔗 chronomex strange definition of "interesting" you have
08:58 🔗 instence In this context interesting = wierdness
08:58 🔗 emijrp Wiki Loves Monuments contest to photograph all monuments around the globe for Wikipedia and preservation purposes, last year 160,000 photos were taken and we broke record guiness for a photography contest
08:58 🔗 instence or wierdly mundane
08:58 🔗 emijrp this year is worldwide and im making maps http://toolserver.org/~emijrp/wlm/
08:59 🔗 emijrp i rock lololol
08:59 🔗 emijrp we will break our own record guinness
09:26 🔗 instence http://games.slashdot.org/story/12/08/28/1517245/welcome-to-the-university-of-michigans-computer-and-video-game-archive-video
09:27 🔗 instence I always wonder how much funding these places allocate for these
09:27 🔗 instence Because i have read absurd amounts being set aside any they only actually purchase 5k worth of stuff
09:43 🔗 SmileyG yeah 5k of stuff ends up as 50k insurance...
09:43 🔗 SmileyG buildings, storage, staff for maintiance...
09:48 🔗 chronomex but 10k of stuff has the same amount of overhead
09:50 🔗 SmileyG Well how has it become 10k? Do you have double the amount of stuff? (More storage + maintaince) or are the items worth 2x ? (Double the insurance)
09:50 🔗 SmileyG Obviously these are massively made p figures
09:50 🔗 chronomex augh whatever
09:50 🔗 * chronomex zzzz
09:50 🔗 SmileyG :P
10:40 🔗 ersi instence: You do know that they're not made out of voluntares and they take quality in high regards, right?
10:40 🔗 ersi Throwing something together is cheap
10:40 🔗 ersi caring for it, nurturing it, is not
11:35 🔗 instence ersi: come on man, really? :/
11:36 🔗 ersi What? You're suprised?
11:36 🔗 instence no.
11:37 🔗 instence Of course a collegiate institution is not made up of volunteers, and I am well aware that caring for physical items costs time, which costs money.
11:38 🔗 instence I fast tracked my game collection in 2 years, and bought over 1,600 games. I recorded how much I spent, after shipping, on every item.
11:39 🔗 instence Knowing how much I spent and seeing what some of these institutions compile for their collections is rather depressing. Its like they went and raided a local gamestop.
11:41 🔗 instence A far more impressive, larger, and diverse collection of game materials could have been compiled for the same amount or less money than how much money they allocate towards the project.
11:41 🔗 instence I am going based off of memory from reading these articles, so I don't have exact figures off the top of my hand.
11:42 🔗 instence I just remembering seeing many articles that make headlines where people say "100k allocated" or "150k allocated" and it ends up being 150 games and a pacman machine.
12:33 🔗 ersi Little is way better than none, though
12:33 🔗 instence Oh yea of course, I'm not saying the efforts are wasted
12:34 🔗 ersi But yeah, I of course wish that they'd aquire more, cheaper - for the well being of our history as well :)
15:55 🔗 swebb So, not related to archiveteam, but I'm moving 80TB of data from one CDN to another CDN. I'm using 80 threads across 8 instances in Amazon's cloud and it'll take approx 12 days to complete.
16:20 🔗 yipdw swebb: I don't think it'll ever become blase for me to realize that single entities wield that much friggin data
16:20 🔗 yipdw even if a good deal of the few exa(?)bytes out there are cat macros
16:25 🔗 swebb In my case, it's all video
16:26 🔗 DFJustin that's a lot of pr0n dude
16:26 🔗 swebb Ha!
16:40 🔗 yipdw I wonder: how would you do a statistically sound survey of what percentage of the Internet is porn
16:43 🔗 swebb http://cf.badcheese.com/armstrong.jpg
16:47 🔗 DFJustin you could do a % by traffic by going down the alexa list
16:48 🔗 stereo197 # Appears as XENO
16:48 🔗 stereo197 (#G010E010M1) hola
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16:49 🔗 stereo197 (#G910E910M1) ahi alguien aqui
16:49 🔗 stereo197 (#G;10E;10M1) <Chr>
16:49 🔗 stereo197 (#G=10E748RM1) <Chr>
16:49 🔗 SketchCow NO WAY
16:49 🔗 SketchCow Ahem
16:49 🔗 * SketchCow cracks knuckles
16:53 🔗 swebb What was all that crap about?
17:03 🔗 winr4r holy shit
17:03 🔗 winr4r did that actually just happen
17:04 🔗 winr4r swebb: i'm not sure if you're familiar with microsoft comic chat, but it was an "IRC client" that instead of rendering text, rendered everything as a cartoon
17:05 🔗 winr4r and it also used to put in a whole lot of junk like that into channels
17:05 🔗 winr4r this is the first time i've seen it in the wild in a decade
17:06 🔗 winr4r it was actually a pretty neat idea, except all the junk it put into the channel (which could be turned off)
17:06 🔗 winr4r (if you're familiar with the webcomic jerkcity, that's made using comic chat)
17:06 🔗 winr4r but holy shit wtfffffff
17:17 🔗 swebb Just looked like a bunch of garbage to me.
17:20 🔗 swebb This? http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5248/5325190766_aa602f7bc4_z.jpg
17:25 🔗 yipdw swebb: yeah
17:25 🔗 winr4r swebb: yes
17:28 🔗 yipdw poster child of low information density
18:18 🔗 SketchCow To produce jerkcity, the coder rewrote microsoft comic chat from scratch
18:18 🔗 winr4r SketchCow: i didn't know that!
18:18 🔗 SketchCow I know those guys
18:18 🔗 SketchCow Very well, in fact.
18:19 🔗 SketchCow Sockington is actually based off of Jerkcity style writing
18:19 🔗 SketchCow Even up to calling me Fatty
18:19 🔗 balrog_ hi SketchCow, how is everything?
18:19 🔗 winr4r wow, i always wondered why nobody had done that for kicks, and it turns out someone has
18:19 🔗 winr4r that is beautiful
22:15 🔗 chronomex 15:10:24 <@SketchCow> The founder of Onlive, who also was a creator of Quicktime and WebTV
22:16 🔗 chronomex the same guy is behind all of those?
22:16 🔗 chronomex I have mixed feelings about this
22:57 🔗 Dubless I dont, my feelings are quite the same about the 3
23:00 🔗 chronomex heh
23:22 🔗 SketchCow http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7278/7491343136_01c0d31b08_b.jpg

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