[00:01] interesting to see the TV News recording project become public knowlege. [00:02] I've seen the derives in the queue over the past several months [00:04] :) [00:04] * underscor is so excited [00:04] http://archive.org/details/tv?q=jason%20scott [00:05] doh [00:08] murderer, police officer... [00:08] And worst of all: Archivist [00:09] hahaha [00:15] mmm [00:15] love the accuracy of some of the CC data: [00:16] >> jon: welcome to "the daily show." my name is jiewrtdment [00:18] is jon stewart or steven cole bear in your life? [00:18] hahah [00:19] of course, it isn't the first time I have seen mangled CC data. I've seen it plenty of times on TVs. [00:20] http://archive.org/details/tv?q=rape%20showers [00:23] lol [00:24] damn you autocorrect [01:02] hahaha, I now have _@don.gs [01:02] fuck yes [01:07] yeah I've watched TV with CCs on for years (despite hearing fine) and live news can be pretty hilarious [01:09] hell yes [01:09] someone else who watches TV with CC on [01:09] everyone always thinks I'm a freal [01:09] freak* [01:11] on a related topic, is everyone in restaurants an expert lip reader? there's never CC on when the volume is off [01:13] like they'll type part of it, fuck up, backspace it, type something else, then decide to just fuck it and skip ahead because they're three sentences behind [01:13] it must suck if you're deaf :( [01:13] also, a PSA for everyone: the most important thing about backups isn't having one- it's having a recent/up-to-date one (otherwise you'll look for the one item that HASN'T been backed recently) [01:14] also one that you've tested to actually be usable [01:31] underscor: got it from visinin? [01:31] hm? [01:31] don.gs [01:34] the email address, underscor [01:34] oh, maybe. I know him by a different nick [01:35] ah [01:37] dudestache / soto [01:39] k [02:05] so how would you explain what ipv6 is to like [02:05] your mom [02:05] (assuming she's not computer savvy) [02:06] Whats going on with the software collection at archive.org? Completely hidden now [02:07] woah [02:07] did it use to be in the top header? [02:07] on https://archive.org/ [02:07] Yea, it used to be and it's not anymore. They added TVNews and OpenLibrary [02:08] You can't search inside the collection right now either [02:08] wow [02:10] Swizzle: it was an admin decision. [02:10] idk what will happen going forward [02:10] :/ [02:12] underscor: when they assign numbers to computers on the internet, they only left a space big enough for numbers up to 4 billion, and now there's more computers than that in the world so we have to upgrade everything with a wider space [02:13] is how I would put it [02:14] seems like horizontal space is the last thing we're running out of with monitors nowadays.... [02:19] should be possible to decouple search at least, since the Education section is searchable (although it seems like that ought to be advertised more too) [02:43] you could go with the transition from 7 digit dialing to 10 digit dialing - not a perfect example, but I think it might work well [02:47] nevermind that everyone seems to have decided to ignore 268 million addresses over fears of router bugs that might be triggered by their use [02:48] which are you referring to? [02:49] there's also the folks that use supposedly internally-routable only addresses for public-facing uses [02:49] class D and E addresses? [02:49] also, we could take 56.0.0.0/8 from usps [02:50] I'm referring to "class E" space [02:50] yeah, ok [02:50] 240/4 [02:52] while I kinda dislike NAT, I also do not see the reason to use non-1918 addresses for machines which cannot talk with the outside world, at least without a proxy server in between. [02:52] (but in general are never to communicate directly with the outside world) [02:57] 240/4 alone is 1/16 of the total ipv4 space. And everyone doesn't want to use it for fear of bugs. [03:04] note that the internet has been classless for over a decade, so referring to blocks as "class n" isn't entirely valid anymore [03:04] I wish there was more widespread use of multicast. however, it IS being used, so it should be left alone. [03:05] (multicast uses what you called "class D", or 224/4) [03:44] haha, sorry [03:44] we learned calssfully in NetArchFund, so I tend to refer to them like that [03:44] even though it's not really accurate now [04:14] 19:52:02 <@Coderjoe> while I kinda dislike NAT, I also do not see the reason to use non-1918 addresses for machines which cannot talk with the outside world, at least without a proxy server in between. [04:15] having gigantor pools of reserved addresses is nice for people who have multiple vpns to peer together [04:15] e.g. I put my personal vpn on 22.2.2.x, so I have no trouble with anyone else's addresses clashing with mine [04:51] 22 is allocated to the defense information systems agency [04:53] yes, and it's not advertised [04:53] you might be better off with a 172.16/16 address. I don't think I have ever seen those. failing that, there is the entire 240/4 space (except 255.255.255.255) you can use [04:54] 172.16/16 is rfc1822 reserved [04:54] I've seen them used all over [04:54] 1918 [04:54] er, yes [04:54] besides why do you care what address I use internally [04:54] and I have never seen them used. I see 10/8 and 192.168/16 all over the place [04:55] and I meant 172.16/12 >_< [04:55] I see 172s in a bunch of places. [04:56] because if you're going to use real (that is, non-1918) IP addresses for internal use, you should be using ones assigned to you. [04:58] tell that to cell carriers [04:58] and I cannot recall ever seeing a 172.16/12 address. I mostly have seen 192.168/16 with a few 10/8 (I even use 10/8 at home, but that's partly because that is what a cisco router we used for awhile was originally st for) [04:58] tmobile's customer-facing data network squats just about all the unrouted /8s [04:59] as I said I see a lot of 172s [04:59] well, then they're in the wrong [04:59] shut the fuck up [04:59] it's a goddamn address [05:00] an address that everyone generally needs to agree on who controls it and uses it in order for things to work [05:00] yes [05:00] why don't they squat on the google IPs and MITM on you? [05:00] though they can MITM you with their routers anyway [05:01] tmo assigns customers in my area IPs in 25/8 [05:01] they put it behind nat [05:01] I'm not going to argue this any further [05:01] there's nothing wrong with it, so long as you know that you're doing unusual things and they may break [05:01] I'm sure they're aware of this [05:01] i'm uploading more episodes of gbtv [07:30] 172? [07:30] not 127? [07:31] * SmileyG ponders [07:32] routing everything to localhost ftw! [07:32] Localhost can take it [07:32] Localhost is one tough Motherf...shut yo mouth! I'm talking about localhost [07:42] lol [09:05] uploaded 5 episodes of gbtv [09:06] my latest upload: http://archive.org/details/GBTV_04_20_2012 [11:17] i created some code to work around my problem with underground gamer [18:02] Hey [18:06] hi SketchCow [18:06] seems Daring Fireball picked up the news from IA :) http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/09/18/internet-archive-tv-news [19:34] 172s are fairly common [19:34] 22/8 and 56/8 are both pretty safe [19:34] if you don't want to use a 1918 address [19:34] hahaha, wow I am days late [19:34] sorry [19:48] hey bullshitters! [19:49] anyone got a sexy BASH snippet to split a string in two variables at a "/"? i want to supply parentdir/subdir as argument to a script and then split it into two varaibles accordingly [19:50] i could grep sed like crazy but i might learn a new trick [19:53] ${1%/*?} gets me the first text before the / [19:54] $(basename $1) ; $(dirname $1) [19:55] duh... [19:55] thanks [19:57] It works, but you haven't learned how to split a string. [19:57] awk [19:57] or.... [19:57] I do at work :< [19:57] Schbirid: if you can wait til tomorrow then yes; [19:58] you just need to swap my . for / [19:58] no, alard's solution is wonderful [19:58] k :P [20:43] Schbirid: basename/dirname should work, I think [21:13] http://www.flickr.com/photos/nr2097/7999811527/in/photostream/ [21:38] SketchCow: Awesome. [21:40] * mistym really wants to put up the "we are going to rescue your shit" poster somewhere in her office [21:40] Except I just knows I'll have to censor it [21:41] *know [21:41] cleverly layer another poster over the bottom right [21:48] Ha. [22:09] WE ARE GOING TO RIZZLE YOUR SHIZZLE [22:09] IN THE SHIZOUSE [22:09] t SketchCow please do not rizzle my shizzle over the carpet [22:09] I just got it cleaned [22:09] well [22:10] IN THE SHIZOUSE BACKYARD THEN [22:10] THE SHIZYARD [22:10] *SHIZARD [22:10] which sounds suspiciously like the name of a pokemon [22:10] Shizard uses rizzle! It's not very effective. [22:11] "TIL that there is such a thing as an elevator enthusiast community. I'm at least 55% sure that it's just a joke though. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE5766A4BCA781D9C&feature=plcp " [22:12] If something exists, there is an enthusiast community for it. [22:16] Haw, Hipmunk now includes Linear Air as an option. [22:16] That's insane. [22:16] If someone books Linear through hipmunk I will fuck a hat factory. [22:17] I would fuck a hat factory regardless [22:27] now 4 more episodes of gbtv is uploaded [22:29] yeah I found the elevator enthusiasts a while back, unfortunately I think their wiki went down [22:29] http://web.archive.org/web/20100818201757/http://wiki.elevprod.com/wiki/Main_Page [22:30] there's also the more low-tech stair otaku http://blog.goo.ne.jp/tokyostair [22:31] chronomex: two of my close friends are elevator enthusiasts [22:31] it's kinda... different [22:31] but cool [22:31] http://www.youtube.com/user/musicfreakcc [22:31] http://www.youtube.com/user/dieselducy [22:31] they're a little strange [22:31] but who isn't