| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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00:01
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Coderjoe |
interesting to see the TV News recording project become public knowlege. |
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00:02
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Coderjoe |
I've seen the derives in the queue over the past several months |
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00:04
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underscor |
:) |
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00:04
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|
* |
underscor is so excited |
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00:04
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|
underscor |
http://archive.org/details/tv?q=jason%20scott |
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00:05
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Coderjoe |
doh |
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00:08
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Coderjoe |
murderer, police officer... |
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00:08
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soultcer |
And worst of all: Archivist |
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00:09
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underscor |
hahaha |
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00:15
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Coderjoe |
mmm |
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00:15
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Coderjoe |
love the accuracy of some of the CC data: |
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00:16
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Coderjoe |
>> jon: welcome to "the daily show." my name is jiewrtdment |
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00:18
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Coderjoe |
is jon stewart or steven cole bear in your life? |
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00:18
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underscor |
hahah |
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00:19
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Coderjoe |
of course, it isn't the first time I have seen mangled CC data. I've seen it plenty of times on TVs. |
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00:20
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underscor |
http://archive.org/details/tv?q=rape%20showers |
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00:23
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BlueMax |
lol |
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00:24
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BlueMax |
damn you autocorrect |
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01:02
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|
underscor |
hahaha, I now have _@don.gs |
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01:02
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|
underscor |
fuck yes |
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01:07
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DFJustin |
yeah I've watched TV with CCs on for years (despite hearing fine) and live news can be pretty hilarious |
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01:09
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|
underscor |
hell yes |
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01:09
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|
underscor |
someone else who watches TV with CC on |
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01:09
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|
underscor |
everyone always thinks I'm a freal |
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01:09
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|
underscor |
freak* |
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01:11
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|
dashcloud |
on a related topic, is everyone in restaurants an expert lip reader? there's never CC on when the volume is off |
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01:13
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DFJustin |
like they'll type part of it, fuck up, backspace it, type something else, then decide to just fuck it and skip ahead because they're three sentences behind |
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01:13
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DFJustin |
it must suck if you're deaf :( |
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01:13
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dashcloud |
also, a PSA for everyone: the most important thing about backups isn't having one- it's having a recent/up-to-date one (otherwise you'll look for the one item that HASN'T been backed recently) |
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01:14
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DFJustin |
also one that you've tested to actually be usable |
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01:31
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chronomex |
underscor: got it from visinin? |
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01:31
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|
underscor |
hm? |
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01:31
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chronomex |
don.gs |
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01:34
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|
chronomex |
the email address, underscor |
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01:34
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|
underscor |
oh, maybe. I know him by a different nick |
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01:35
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chronomex |
ah |
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01:37
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|
underscor |
dudestache / soto |
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01:39
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|
chronomex |
k |
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02:05
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|
underscor |
so how would you explain what ipv6 is to like |
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02:05
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|
underscor |
your mom |
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02:05
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|
underscor |
(assuming she's not computer savvy) |
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02:06
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Swizzle |
Whats going on with the software collection at archive.org? Completely hidden now |
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02:07
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|
underscor |
woah |
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02:07
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|
underscor |
did it use to be in the top header? |
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02:07
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|
underscor |
on https://archive.org/ |
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02:07
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Swizzle |
Yea, it used to be and it's not anymore. They added TVNews and OpenLibrary |
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02:08
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|
Swizzle |
You can't search inside the collection right now either |
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02:08
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|
underscor |
wow |
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02:10
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|
underscor |
Swizzle: it was an admin decision. |
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02:10
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|
underscor |
idk what will happen going forward |
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02:10
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|
underscor |
:/ |
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02:12
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|
DFJustin |
underscor: when they assign numbers to computers on the internet, they only left a space big enough for numbers up to 4 billion, and now there's more computers than that in the world so we have to upgrade everything with a wider space |
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02:13
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DFJustin |
is how I would put it |
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02:14
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|
DFJustin |
seems like horizontal space is the last thing we're running out of with monitors nowadays.... |
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02:19
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DFJustin |
should be possible to decouple search at least, since the Education section is searchable (although it seems like that ought to be advertised more too) |
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02:43
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dashcloud |
you could go with the transition from 7 digit dialing to 10 digit dialing - not a perfect example, but I think it might work well |
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02:47
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Coderjoe |
nevermind that everyone seems to have decided to ignore 268 million addresses over fears of router bugs that might be triggered by their use |
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02:48
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underscor |
which are you referring to? |
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02:49
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dashcloud |
there's also the folks that use supposedly internally-routable only addresses for public-facing uses |
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02:49
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|
underscor |
class D and E addresses? |
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02:49
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|
underscor |
also, we could take 56.0.0.0/8 from usps |
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02:50
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Coderjoe |
I'm referring to "class E" space |
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02:50
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|
underscor |
yeah, ok |
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02:50
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|
Coderjoe |
240/4 |
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02:52
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|
Coderjoe |
while I kinda dislike NAT, I also do not see the reason to use non-1918 addresses for machines which cannot talk with the outside world, at least without a proxy server in between. |
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02:52
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|
Coderjoe |
(but in general are never to communicate directly with the outside world) |
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02:57
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|
Coderjoe |
240/4 alone is 1/16 of the total ipv4 space. And everyone doesn't want to use it for fear of bugs. |
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03:04
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Coderjoe |
note that the internet has been classless for over a decade, so referring to blocks as "class n" isn't entirely valid anymore |
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03:04
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|
Coderjoe |
I wish there was more widespread use of multicast. however, it IS being used, so it should be left alone. |
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03:05
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|
Coderjoe |
(multicast uses what you called "class D", or 224/4) |
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03:44
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|
underscor |
haha, sorry |
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03:44
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|
underscor |
we learned calssfully in NetArchFund, so I tend to refer to them like that |
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03:44
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|
underscor |
even though it's not really accurate now |
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04:14
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chronomex |
19:52:02 <@Coderjoe> while I kinda dislike NAT, I also do not see the reason to use non-1918 addresses for machines which cannot talk with the outside world, at least without a proxy server in between. |
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04:15
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chronomex |
having gigantor pools of reserved addresses is nice for people who have multiple vpns to peer together |
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04:15
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|
chronomex |
e.g. I put my personal vpn on 22.2.2.x, so I have no trouble with anyone else's addresses clashing with mine |
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04:51
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|
Coderjoe |
22 is allocated to the defense information systems agency |
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04:53
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|
chronomex |
yes, and it's not advertised |
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04:53
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|
Coderjoe |
you might be better off with a 172.16/16 address. I don't think I have ever seen those. failing that, there is the entire 240/4 space (except 255.255.255.255) you can use |
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04:54
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|
chronomex |
172.16/16 is rfc1822 reserved |
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04:54
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|
chronomex |
I've seen them used all over |
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04:54
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|
Coderjoe |
1918 |
|
04:54
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|
chronomex |
er, yes |
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04:54
🔗
|
chronomex |
besides why do you care what address I use internally |
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04:54
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
and I have never seen them used. I see 10/8 and 192.168/16 all over the place |
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04:55
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|
Coderjoe |
and I meant 172.16/12 >_< |
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04:55
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|
chronomex |
I see 172s in a bunch of places. |
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04:56
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Coderjoe |
because if you're going to use real (that is, non-1918) IP addresses for internal use, you should be using ones assigned to you. |
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04:58
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|
chronomex |
tell that to cell carriers |
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04:58
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|
Coderjoe |
and I cannot recall ever seeing a 172.16/12 address. I mostly have seen 192.168/16 with a few 10/8 (I even use 10/8 at home, but that's partly because that is what a cisco router we used for awhile was originally st for) |
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04:58
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|
chronomex |
tmobile's customer-facing data network squats just about all the unrouted /8s |
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04:59
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|
chronomex |
as I said I see a lot of 172s |
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04:59
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|
Coderjoe |
well, then they're in the wrong |
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04:59
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|
chronomex |
shut the fuck up |
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04:59
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|
chronomex |
it's a goddamn address |
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05:00
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Coderjoe |
an address that everyone generally needs to agree on who controls it and uses it in order for things to work |
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05:00
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|
chronomex |
yes |
|
05:00
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
why don't they squat on the google IPs and MITM on you? |
|
05:00
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
though they can MITM you with their routers anyway |
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05:01
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|
chronomex |
tmo assigns customers in my area IPs in 25/8 |
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05:01
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|
chronomex |
they put it behind nat |
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05:01
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|
chronomex |
I'm not going to argue this any further |
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05:01
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|
chronomex |
there's nothing wrong with it, so long as you know that you're doing unusual things and they may break |
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05:01
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|
chronomex |
I'm sure they're aware of this |
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05:01
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|
godane |
i'm uploading more episodes of gbtv |
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07:30
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|
SmileyG |
172? |
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07:30
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|
SmileyG |
not 127? |
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07:31
🔗
|
* |
SmileyG ponders |
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07:32
🔗
|
SmileyG |
routing everything to localhost ftw! |
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07:32
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Localhost can take it |
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07:32
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|
SketchCow |
Localhost is one tough Motherf...shut yo mouth! I'm talking about localhost |
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07:42
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|
SmileyG |
lol |
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09:05
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|
godane |
uploaded 5 episodes of gbtv |
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09:06
🔗
|
godane |
my latest upload: http://archive.org/details/GBTV_04_20_2012 |
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11:17
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|
godane |
i created some code to work around my problem with underground gamer |
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18:02
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|
SketchCow |
Hey |
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18:06
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|
balrog- |
hi SketchCow |
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18:06
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|
balrog- |
seems Daring Fireball picked up the news from IA :) http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/09/18/internet-archive-tv-news |
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19:34
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|
underscor |
172s are fairly common |
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19:34
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|
underscor |
22/8 and 56/8 are both pretty safe |
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19:34
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|
underscor |
if you don't want to use a 1918 address |
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19:34
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|
underscor |
hahaha, wow I am days late |
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19:34
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|
underscor |
sorry |
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19:48
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Schbirid |
hey bullshitters! |
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19:49
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|
Schbirid |
anyone got a sexy BASH snippet to split a string in two variables at a "/"? i want to supply parentdir/subdir as argument to a script and then split it into two varaibles accordingly |
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19:50
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|
Schbirid |
i could grep sed like crazy but i might learn a new trick |
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19:53
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|
Schbirid |
${1%/*?} gets me the first text before the / |
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19:54
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alard |
$(basename $1) ; $(dirname $1) |
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19:55
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Schbirid |
duh... |
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19:55
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|
Schbirid |
thanks |
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19:57
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|
alard |
It works, but you haven't learned how to split a string. |
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19:57
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|
SmileyG |
awk |
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19:57
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|
SmileyG |
or.... |
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19:57
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|
SmileyG |
I do at work :< |
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19:57
🔗
|
SmileyG |
Schbirid: if you can wait til tomorrow then yes; |
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19:58
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|
SmileyG |
you just need to swap my . for / |
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19:58
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|
Schbirid |
no, alard's solution is wonderful |
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19:58
🔗
|
SmileyG |
k :P |
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20:43
🔗
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Coderjoe |
Schbirid: basename/dirname should work, I think |
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21:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nr2097/7999811527/in/photostream/ |
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21:38
🔗
|
mistym |
SketchCow: Awesome. |
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21:40
🔗
|
* |
mistym really wants to put up the "we are going to rescue your shit" poster somewhere in her office |
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21:40
🔗
|
mistym |
Except I just knows I'll have to censor it |
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21:41
🔗
|
mistym |
*know |
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21:41
🔗
|
DFJustin |
cleverly layer another poster over the bottom right |
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21:48
🔗
|
mistym |
Ha. |
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22:09
🔗
|
SketchCow |
WE ARE GOING TO RIZZLE YOUR SHIZZLE |
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22:09
🔗
|
mistym |
IN THE SHIZOUSE |
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22:09
🔗
|
underscor |
t SketchCow please do not rizzle my shizzle over the carpet |
|
22:09
🔗
|
underscor |
I just got it cleaned |
|
22:09
🔗
|
chronomex |
well |
|
22:10
🔗
|
chronomex |
IN THE SHIZOUSE BACKYARD THEN |
|
22:10
🔗
|
mistym |
THE SHIZYARD |
|
22:10
🔗
|
chronomex |
*SHIZARD |
|
22:10
🔗
|
chronomex |
which sounds suspiciously like the name of a pokemon |
|
22:10
🔗
|
mistym |
Shizard uses rizzle! It's not very effective. |
|
22:11
🔗
|
chronomex |
"TIL that there is such a thing as an elevator enthusiast community. I'm at least 55% sure that it's just a joke though. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE5766A4BCA781D9C&feature=plcp " |
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22:12
🔗
|
mistym |
If something exists, there is an enthusiast community for it. |
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22:16
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Haw, Hipmunk now includes Linear Air as an option. |
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22:16
🔗
|
SketchCow |
That's insane. |
|
22:16
🔗
|
SketchCow |
If someone books Linear through hipmunk I will fuck a hat factory. |
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22:17
🔗
|
underscor |
I would fuck a hat factory regardless |
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22:27
🔗
|
godane |
now 4 more episodes of gbtv is uploaded |
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22:29
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|
DFJustin |
yeah I found the elevator enthusiasts a while back, unfortunately I think their wiki went down |
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22:29
🔗
|
DFJustin |
http://web.archive.org/web/20100818201757/http://wiki.elevprod.com/wiki/Main_Page |
|
22:30
🔗
|
DFJustin |
there's also the more low-tech stair otaku http://blog.goo.ne.jp/tokyostair |
|
22:31
🔗
|
underscor |
chronomex: two of my close friends are elevator enthusiasts |
|
22:31
🔗
|
underscor |
it's kinda... different |
|
22:31
🔗
|
underscor |
but cool |
|
22:31
🔗
|
underscor |
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicfreakcc |
|
22:31
🔗
|
underscor |
http://www.youtube.com/user/dieselducy |
|
22:31
🔗
|
underscor |
they're a little strange |
|
22:31
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|
underscor |
but who isn't |