#archiveteam-bs 2013-01-29,Tue

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Time	Nickname	Message
00:16 ^🔗	dashcloud	http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/01/world-trade-organization-approves-new-site-full-of-pirated-material-from-us/ Antigua will soon have it's own authorized "pirate bay" (or something along those lines)
00:20 ^🔗	chronomex	grand
00:22 ^🔗	BlueMax	yeah I can't wait for thay
00:22 ^🔗	BlueMax	that
00:23 ^🔗	dashcloud	Antigua is also the home of the fine people at Slysoft
00:38 ^🔗	godane	now this sucks
00:40 ^🔗	godane	looks like over 300 videos techtv clips are lost
00:40 ^🔗	godane	i get links like this: vids.g4tv.com/videoDB/007/925/video7925/vc14223_ss112003bert_165_0.flv
00:41 ^🔗	godane	but the video is 404
00:46 ^🔗	balrog_	maybe is rtsp?
00:48 ^🔗	balrog_	is https://www.dropbox.com/s/y1izh0qg768wbra/Photo%20Jan%2028%2C%207%2007%2018%20PM.jpg on textfiles
01:11 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Aw yeah, shitty watercolour came through. Original: http://scr.GLaDOS.me/ecaps_core_800_solid.png and his: http://scr.GLaDOS.me/shittywatercolour.jpg
01:41 ^🔗	godane	http://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video7487
01:41 ^🔗	godane	Do you like wathcing dirty movies but don't understand DivX? Just watch this video!
01:42 ^🔗	chronomex	yay!
01:42 ^🔗	chronomex	finally!
01:43 ^🔗	godane	also there is unedit clip of sara underwood naked on a bikecycle
01:43 ^🔗	godane	that i as suprise about
01:48 ^🔗	chronomex	heh
02:15 ^🔗	DFJustin	hmm never heard the pronunciation /ËdÉªvÉªx/ before, I always used /dÉªvËÉx/
02:15 ^🔗	DFJustin	er s/x/ks/
02:24 ^🔗	godane	also i got some more smart computing magazines today
02:24 ^🔗	godane	from april 1995 to july 1995
02:25 ^🔗	godane	and one special
02:31 ^🔗	godane	i'm at 117gb
03:06 ^🔗	dashcloud	so what's the name of one of the etherpad-like sites for collaborative editing? (I can't remember the one I used earlier for a project here)
03:26 ^🔗	underscor	dashcloud: piratepad?
03:26 ^🔗	dashcloud	maybe- I think I was thinking of titanpad possibly
04:03 ^🔗	GLaDOS	piratepad, titanpad, etherpad.mozilla, etc
04:08 ^🔗	dashcloud	thanks!
04:24 ^🔗	ATZ0	ok. i give up. who know's ZNC fairly well?
04:26 ^🔗	kennethr-	ATZ0: there's not much to know
04:27 ^🔗	ATZ0	eh the multiple network stuff was confusing me due to lack of documentation, finally figured it out
04:27 ^🔗	ATZ0	and yeah there actually IS plenty to know if you haven't lived with it forever
04:27 ^🔗	ATZ0	the docs suck.
08:00 ^🔗	turnkit	Compuserve Mall saved everybody from patent trolling. Another reason why accurate historal preservation is critical for a healthy society! http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/01/how-newegg-crushed-the-shopping-cart-patent-and-saved-online-retail/2/
08:02 ^🔗	illunatic	turnkit: http://falkvinge.net/2012/11/10/copyright-industry-reality-takes-six-years-to-catch-up-with-the-worst-satire-of-it/
08:02 ^🔗	illunatic	a priort art argument has been made
08:02 ^🔗	illunatic	prior*
08:03 ^🔗	illunatic	somehow i don't think it would hold up, but what it every sci-fic writer has saved us from tech patents?
08:05 ^🔗	turnkit	lol! classic!
08:06 ^🔗	illunatic	:)
08:11 ^🔗	turnkit	Does anyone here use KVIrc? Know how to shut off joined/quit notifications?
08:12 ^🔗	turnkit	I think I should start writing fiction so I can invalidate future stupid patent monopolies. Yes, for one, I see a future where the toilet measures your health and will post about it on your social networking sites.
08:14 ^🔗	turnkit	And of a time when buying a Build Your Own Garage book comes with not just plans for the building, but coded instructions in a .dwg file down to the nail and screw placement so that the robot house building machine can create the building from nearly start to finish.
08:16 ^🔗	SketchCow	14G Atari ST [TOSEC]
08:16 ^🔗	SketchCow	192M Acorn BBC [TOSEC].7z
08:16 ^🔗	SketchCow	209M Apple 2 [TOSEC].7z
08:16 ^🔗	SketchCow	240M Amstrad CPC [TOSEC].7z
08:16 ^🔗	SketchCow	329M Atari 8 bit [TOSEC].7z
08:16 ^🔗	SketchCow	30G Commodore Amiga [TOSEC v2012-04-10]
08:16 ^🔗	SketchCow	156M Commodore C16, C116 & Plus-4 [TOSEC].7z
08:16 ^🔗	SketchCow	7.7G Commodore C64 [TOSEC v2012-04-23]
08:16 ^🔗	SketchCow	1.3G IBM PC Compatibles [TOSEC].7z
08:16 ^🔗	SketchCow	27G Nintendo 64 [TOSEC v2012-04-23]
08:16 ^🔗	SketchCow	374M Nintendo Gameboy Advance [TOSEC v2012-04-13].7z
08:16 ^🔗	SketchCow	6.6G OpenPandora Pandora [TOSEC 2012-04-13]
08:26 ^🔗	illunatic	:)
08:26 ^🔗	illunatic	the golden archive
08:26 ^🔗	illunatic	turnkit: i use irssi
08:26 ^🔗	illunatic	it's awesome
08:26 ^🔗	illunatic	the irc client of the future
08:27 ^🔗	SketchCow	I use IRSSI + Screen on a server I need to be up.
08:27 ^🔗	illunatic	^
08:27 ^🔗	SketchCow	It leads to a rock stable IRC situation with instant machine down warning.
08:27 ^🔗	illunatic	it's rad
08:27 ^🔗	GLaDOS	I use IRSSI + tmux whenever I use my unix laptop.
08:28 ^🔗	illunatic	this is a freeBSD machine in florida somewhere. i have no idea where tbh heh
08:28 ^🔗	illunatic	GLaDOS: are you doing other things beyond irssi then?
08:29 ^🔗	illunatic	remotely
08:29 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Not really, other than having finch open beside it.
08:30 ^🔗	illunatic	oic
08:31 ^🔗	GLaDOS	I've been setting zsh up with oh-my-zsh
08:31 ^🔗	GLaDOS	It's really nice.
08:31 ^🔗	illunatic	i haven't used finch, but the screenshots i see look cool
08:31 ^🔗	SketchCow	I'm packing up.
08:31 ^🔗	SketchCow	Going to Germany!
08:31 ^🔗	SketchCow	For a week
08:31 ^🔗	illunatic	no way!
08:31 ^🔗	SketchCow	Then to New Zealand.
08:31 ^🔗	SketchCow	For 3 weeks!
08:31 ^🔗	SketchCow	Then San Francisco
08:31 ^🔗	SketchCow	For a week!
08:31 ^🔗	SketchCow	Then home
08:32 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Skipping Australia? :c
08:32 ^🔗	illunatic	auf wiedersehen
08:32 ^🔗	illunatic	ah i need to go back to SF soon
08:32 ^🔗	illunatic	my home :(
08:32 ^🔗	SketchCow	I'm being flown to NZ on someone's dime
08:32 ^🔗	illunatic	kim dotcom?
08:32 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Ah!
08:32 ^🔗	SketchCow	I totally want to meet him, but I think it's unrealistic.
08:32 ^🔗	illunatic	tell him to hook up archiveteam with donated rack space
08:32 ^🔗	illunatic	haha
08:32 ^🔗	illunatic	well it may not be actually
08:33 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Ah, that'd be nice.
08:33 ^🔗	illunatic	torrentfreak seems to be tight with him and a guy i worked for was able to sit with him for a meeting back in the early days of mega
08:34 ^🔗	GLaDOS	So, yeah, bonus points if you meet Kim Dotcom!
08:36 ^🔗	GLaDOS	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBw3YvdCcAEfLzC.png:large CloudFlare offline with CloudFlare showing a static version? What?
08:58 ^🔗	kennethr-	GLaDOS: hahaha, that's amazing
08:58 ^🔗	kennethr-	I'm going to London in a few hours
08:58 ^🔗	kennethr-	i should totally try to meet assange
08:58 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Pfft, people flying everywhere.
08:58 ^🔗	kennethr-	i have a feeling they don't allow visitors though :(
08:58 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Who knows, they might.
08:58 ^🔗	kennethr-	http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article3562604.ece
08:58 ^🔗	kennethr-	hmm
08:59 ^🔗	GLaDOS	So if you meet Assange, and Jason meets Dotcom, we'll spread the good word of archiveteam, that we're going to rescue peoples shit.
08:59 ^🔗	kennethr-	:D
08:59 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Bonus points if you get http://archivingyoursh.it/ in a photo with them.
08:59 ^🔗	kennethr-	hahaha
08:59 ^🔗	kennethr-	he's still in the embassy, right?
09:00 ^🔗	GLaDOS	He is.
09:00 ^🔗	kennethr-	i haven't heard anything in months
09:00 ^🔗	GLaDOS	They sent a package with a webcam attached to a phone a week or two ago.
09:00 ^🔗	GLaDOS	He was fine
09:00 ^🔗	kennethr-	i should totally try to just show up
09:01 ^🔗	kennethr-	i have no idea who to get in contact with though
09:01 ^🔗	GLaDOS	"Ohai! I wrote that python HTTP library you're probably using."
09:01 ^🔗	GLaDOS	"...what do you MEAN you don't use python?"
09:01 ^🔗	kennethr-	hahahaha
09:02 ^🔗	kennethr-	i really want to figure this out now
09:02 ^🔗	kennethr-	http://www.ecuadorembassyuk.org.uk/contact
09:03 ^🔗	kennethr-	i guess i'll just fill that out
09:03 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Might work.
09:04 ^🔗	kennethr-	i might have trouble getting home :)
09:06 ^🔗	illunatic	SketchCow: are you going to FOSDEM?
09:07 ^🔗	kennethr-	I am!
09:07 ^🔗	kennethr-	illunatic: will you be there?
09:07 ^🔗	illunatic	i really would like to go
09:08 ^🔗	illunatic	i am just talking to someone who is a keynote
09:08 ^🔗	illunatic	:)
09:08 ^🔗	illunatic	i hadn't heard of it before that
09:08 ^🔗	illunatic	kennethr-: are you going from the US?
09:08 ^🔗	kennethr-	yep
09:09 ^🔗	kennethr-	my flight is in 5 hours :)
09:09 ^🔗	illunatic	from the east coast?
09:09 ^🔗	illunatic	i'm in austin, tx
09:09 ^🔗	kennethr-	yeah
09:09 ^🔗	kennethr-	my local airport is IAD
09:09 ^🔗	kennethr-	makes things easy :)
09:09 ^🔗	kennethr-	awesome, i love austin
09:09 ^🔗	illunatic	:D
09:10 ^🔗	illunatic	about how much is a flight to germany?
09:10 ^🔗	illunatic	i didn't know it was only 5 hours! that is amazing
09:10 ^🔗	illunatic	i would have gone a long time ago
09:10 ^🔗	kennethr-	hahaha
09:10 ^🔗	kennethr-	well should be more like 7
09:10 ^🔗	illunatic	still, i can survive that
09:11 ^🔗	illunatic	i am seriously considering going
09:11 ^🔗	kennethr-	do it do it!
09:11 ^🔗	kennethr-	let me do a price check
09:11 ^🔗	illunatic	omg it's on my birthday!
09:12 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Second or the Third?
09:13 ^🔗	illunatic	2ns
09:13 ^🔗	illunatic	groundhog day
09:13 ^🔗	illunatic	:D
09:13 ^🔗	kennethr-	okay so...
09:13 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Ah!
09:13 ^🔗	illunatic	i can't get a flight that soon and my dad is coming to visit this weekend
09:13 ^🔗	kennethr-	Austin <-> Brussels
09:13 ^🔗	illunatic	do they fly direct?
09:14 ^🔗	kennethr-	mad connections
09:14 ^🔗	GLaDOS	I wonder if Qantas has anything..
09:14 ^🔗	kennethr-	1351
09:14 ^🔗	kennethr-	but the cheapest roundtrip is
09:14 ^🔗	illunatic	looks like between $800-$900
09:14 ^🔗	kennethr-	$1351
09:14 ^🔗	kennethr-	not bad
09:14 ^🔗	kennethr-	for two days notice
09:14 ^🔗	illunatic	oh that's one way
09:14 ^🔗	illunatic	yeah for short notice, not bad
09:14 ^🔗	kennethr-	it's also 17 hours there, 19 on the way back
09:14 ^🔗	illunatic	would rather teleport
09:14 ^🔗	kennethr-	AUS -> DFW -> MAD -> BRU
09:15 ^🔗	illunatic	i think i should fly to the east coast, stay for the night, then fly out when i go to europe next
09:15 ^🔗	illunatic	i would take my gf too, so whatever the cost, double it :/
09:15 ^🔗	kennethr-	haha
09:15 ^🔗	kennethr-	good luck :)
09:15 ^🔗	GLaDOS	From Australia, the cheapest there is $862
09:15 ^🔗	kennethr-	nice
09:16 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Cheapest return, however, is $1286
09:16 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Hahahahah no.
09:17 ^🔗	kennethr-	filling out a contact form
09:17 ^🔗	illunatic	oh well, i need to keep an eye out for what goes on in san francisco
09:17 ^🔗	kennethr-	to meet julian assange is a bit akward
09:17 ^🔗	illunatic	been meaning to make a trip home so i'd like to time it around something good
09:18 ^🔗	kennethr-	illunatic: SketchCow will be speaking at waza in fb 28th
09:18 ^🔗	kennethr-	*feb
09:18 ^🔗	illunatic	hm that would be awesome
09:18 ^🔗	illunatic	i'd better get tickets quick
09:18 ^🔗	kennethr-	waza.heroku.com
09:18 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Wild REASON appeared!
09:18 ^🔗	illunatic	jetblue is the best from austin to SFO
09:18 ^🔗	kennethr-	lol
09:18 ^🔗	illunatic	haha
09:18 ^🔗	illunatic	oooh i love that website
09:19 ^🔗	illunatic	https://waza.heroku.com/2013/speakers/aaron-patterson
09:19 ^🔗	illunatic	lmao
09:20 ^🔗	kennethr-	that is one weird dude
09:20 ^🔗	illunatic	https://waza.heroku.com/2013/speakers/ryan-smith
09:20 ^🔗	illunatic	dude, that is my slave name^
09:20 ^🔗	illunatic	haha
09:20 ^🔗	kennethr-	slabe name...
09:20 ^🔗	kennethr-	*slave
09:24 ^🔗	illunatic	flying is expensive
09:25 ^🔗	kennethr-	this is why you get a company to pay for it :)
09:26 ^🔗	illunatic	heh
09:27 ^🔗	SketchCow	WAXAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
09:32 ^🔗	illunatic	aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
09:32 ^🔗	illunatic	:PPPPPP
09:32 ^🔗	GLaDOS	aaaaa'+'aaaaaaaaa'*random.randrange(10,100)+'aaaaa?
09:34 ^🔗	illunatic	while ( $lungCapacity > 0 ) echo 'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa';
09:35 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Capacity? Wouldn't that be content?
09:35 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Or do you want the person to die?
09:40 ^🔗	illunatic	haha error!
09:40 ^🔗	illunatic	hahaha
09:40 ^🔗	GLaDOS	The person that code was ran on died.
09:40 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Are you happy?
09:40 ^🔗	illunatic	that code would just never echo
09:41 ^🔗	illunatic	because it can never be greater than capacity
09:41 ^🔗	illunatic	well at least one thin gis correct. $lung is a container
09:41 ^🔗	GLaDOS	But the lungs are capable of holding more than 0, though.
09:42 ^🔗	illunatic	oh man you are right!
09:42 ^🔗	illunatic	the capacity is > 0
09:42 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Cause of death: mistyped code.
09:42 ^🔗	GLaDOS	RIP test dummy
09:42 ^🔗	illunatic	haha
09:42 ^🔗	illunatic	screamed to death
09:42 ^🔗	illunatic	seriously laughing so hard
09:42 ^🔗	illunatic	obviously well past my bed time
09:43 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Heh
09:43 ^🔗	illunatic	would love to make a video about people living according to code
09:43 ^🔗	illunatic	and acting out on coding bugs
09:43 ^🔗	illunatic	Creative Design
09:43 ^🔗	illunatic	loop
09:44 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Hm
09:44 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Could incorrectly parse a sentence generated by another person, and spit out an insult.
09:44 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Miscalculate path, walk into wrong x..
09:45 ^🔗	GLaDOS	Wow, tons of possibilities.
09:47 ^🔗	illunatic	:)
09:47 ^🔗	Smiley	http://emergencycompliment.com/ hjahaha
09:48 ^🔗	ersi	SketchCow: I would deem you meeting Kim Dotcom as very unrealistic.. :)
09:48 ^🔗	SketchCow	I can do anything I want.
09:49 ^🔗	SketchCow	But the lady has booked us pretty solid for the weeks.
09:49 ^🔗	SketchCow	Like, itineraries every day.
09:49 ^🔗	Smiley	:O
09:49 ^🔗	Smiley	going to NZ?
09:49 ^🔗	Smiley	It's SO beautiful appently :(
09:54 ^🔗	ersi	SketchCow: I meant, not very unrealistic
09:54 ^🔗	*	ersi chugs two mugs of coffee
09:55 ^🔗	ersi	I've heard NZ is pretty fruity
09:55 ^🔗	ersi	apparently a lot of kiwis there
09:55 ^🔗	ersi	harrrrrrr
09:57 ^🔗	illunatic	because there's too many mother uckers
09:57 ^🔗	illunatic	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6IwpWu9Vbg
09:58 ^🔗	GLaDOS	I'm surprised nobody's made a sheep joke yet.
09:58 ^🔗	ersi	that'd be too cheap
09:58 ^🔗	GLaDOS	I suppose.
09:59 ^🔗	Smiley	two sheep? No... they have far more than two sheep
09:59 ^🔗	Smiley	boom tish.
10:59 ^🔗	illunatic	http://activepolitic.com:82/external/1814.html
11:51 ^🔗	turnkit	Anyone heard of "MacJack" magazine? Macintosh Magazine from Japan. Apparently was published with CDROMs. re: http://www.macintoshmagazines.com/japan/macjack-japan.php http://osdir.com/ml/apple.fink.core/2004-10/msg00032.html
11:55 ^🔗	GLaDOS	illunatic: MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!_^&%!@(_&^##%(@)&*^
12:08 ^🔗	turnkit	getting to obsessive about rare Mac shareware CD's... have to pass.. stay focused on one thing at a time. http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r98778999
12:16 ^🔗	turnkit	What do you mean the Japanese have all their own CDROM collections?! And I thought we could collect them all. http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h144095521
12:28 ^🔗	turnkit	more rare Japanese Mac magazines with CDROM -- July 1997 -- VOLUME 38 -- so these ran a while... cd is shown in other pics: http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img387.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/5/8/5/0/h_mbc2121-img600x427-1346836471mdmbr238526.jpg
14:26 ^🔗	Smiley	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF8nTjf-1n8
15:38 ^🔗	schbiridi	guys? kim dotcom is no one to glorify. he has a super evil past and i doubt that he changed one bit. he ran BBSs to collect data on warez sharers and worked with a lawyer to rat on them.
15:45 ^🔗	Smiley	he's also a cock.
15:47 ^🔗	joepie91	schbiridi: even evil guys can do things that benefit the rest of the world
15:47 ^🔗	joepie91	whether that benefit is intended or not :)
15:48 ^🔗	Smiley	hahaha
15:48 ^🔗	Smiley	tbh i didn't see where he was being glorified
15:48 ^🔗	joepie91	and dotcom seems to be attempting to perfect the art of "helping society while helping myself"
15:48 ^🔗	joepie91	which, when kept in check, can be fairly beneficial in the current society we have
15:48 ^🔗	joepie91	as in, better than the "fuck over society while helping myself" that most people responsible for keeping society running, appear to live by
15:49 ^🔗	joepie91	everything is relative :D
16:06 ^🔗	Smiley	ok seriously wtf is with this system
16:06 ^🔗	Smiley	no matter what I do I can't enable core dumps
16:06 ^🔗	Smiley	/etc/security/limits.conf has a hard limit of unlimited for all users :<
16:42 ^🔗	joepie91	ii is a minimalist FIFO and filesystem-based IRC client. It creates an irc directory tree with server, channel and nick name directories. In every directory a FIFO in file and a normal out file is created.
16:42 ^🔗	joepie91	The in file is used to communicate with the servers and the out files contain the server messages. For every channel and every nick name there are related in and out files created. This allows IRC communication from command line and adheres to the Unix philosophy. example
16:44 ^🔗	SketchCow	ha ha
16:44 ^🔗	SketchCow	schbiridi: Nobody's glorifying Schmitz
16:44 ^🔗	SketchCow	Wanting to meet someone is not the same as adoring them
16:44 ^🔗	SketchCow	DAMN do I know this!
16:44 ^🔗	SketchCow	I get met by people who think I'm the worst thing ALL THE TIME
16:46 ^🔗	Smiley	Oh I'd love to meet him
16:46 ^🔗	Smiley	to see what hes like "IRL".
16:47 ^🔗	joepie91	^
16:47 ^🔗	joepie91	maybe get into an argument or two///
16:47 ^🔗	joepie91	... *
16:47 ^🔗	joepie91	:P
16:50 ^🔗	Smiley	yah maybe
19:39 ^🔗	Aranje	mostly I just want to see if he's half the troll he looks like
20:32 ^🔗	joepie91	soooooo
20:32 ^🔗	joepie91	if anyone needs to figure out selectors to scrape data off pages
20:32 ^🔗	joepie91	http://cryto.net/scraperscript/
20:33 ^🔗	joepie91	veeery basic and will likely be improved in the future
20:37 ^🔗	chronomex	opera's debugger tool also has a search-by-selector function
20:45 ^🔗	joepie91	chronomex: the problem is that debugger tools seems to show a path, but not the (as in, unique) path
20:45 ^🔗	joepie91	anyway, just updated it
20:45 ^🔗	chronomex	oh, ok
20:45 ^🔗	joepie91	it will now attempt to search for the closest parent with an ID
20:45 ^🔗	joepie91	and stop descending there
20:45 ^🔗	joepie91	makes for less fragile selectors
20:46 ^🔗	joepie91	this is the question body on a stackexchange post: div#question>table>tbody>tr>td:nth-child(2)>div
20:46 ^🔗	joepie91	:)
20:46 ^🔗	*	chronomex nods
20:47 ^🔗	godane	i'm getting the original transcodings of some of the call for help canada shows
20:48 ^🔗	chronomex	great, godane
20:51 ^🔗	godane	its only a few of them
21:27 ^🔗	Aranje	underscor:) you about?
21:50 ^🔗	godane	looks like the high bit rate call for help episode is shorter
21:50 ^🔗	godane	by like 9mins
21:54 ^🔗	godane	anyways the bruce campbell interview is being uploaded: http://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video9200
21:54 ^🔗	godane	the broken one
22:04 ^🔗	joepie91	chronomex:
22:04 ^🔗	joepie91	there?
22:04 ^🔗	chronomex	hi
22:04 ^🔗	joepie91	old selector: html > body > div:nth-child(2) > div > div > ul > li:nth-child(6) > a
22:04 ^🔗	joepie91	new selector: html > body > div.page-navbar-wrap > div > div > ul > li:nth-child(6) > a
22:04 ^🔗	joepie91	:)
22:04 ^🔗	joepie91	rewrote the path figuring out part
22:04 ^🔗	chronomex	coolz
22:04 ^🔗	joepie91	old stackexchange selectors: div#question > table > tbody > tr > td:nth-child(2) > div
22:04 ^🔗	joepie91	new stackexchange selectors: #question > table > tbody > tr:nth-child(1) > td.postcell > div
22:05 ^🔗	joepie91	it generally builds less error-prone selectors
22:05 ^🔗	joepie91	also does tag.class:nth-child(index) now
22:08 ^🔗	chronomex	does it try to avoid nth-child? because that's probably for the best
22:08 ^🔗	chronomex	imo
22:23 ^🔗	joepie91	chronomex: yes
22:23 ^🔗	joepie91	nth-child is the absolute last resort
22:23 ^🔗	joepie91	if it can't find any other reasonable way to identify one particular element
22:24 ^🔗	chronomex	aye
22:25 ^🔗	joepie91	#id first, tag second (if unique in current context), tag.class third (if unique in context), tag.class:nth-child fourth (if it has a class), tag:nth-child fifth (if it doesn't have a class)
22:25 ^🔗	joepie91	@ chronomex
22:25 ^🔗	chronomex	aye
22:25 ^🔗	joepie91	basically, it tries to be as specific as possible without becoming fragile
22:25 ^🔗	chronomex	I like that.
22:25 ^🔗	joepie91	next problem: beautifulsoup doesn't speak nth-child
22:25 ^🔗	joepie91	and they don't have a github so I'll probably have to manually submit a patch...
22:26 ^🔗	chronomex	:\|
22:27 ^🔗	joepie91	another optimization I am looking at
22:28 ^🔗	joepie91	is checking each single element in the chain, starting from the selected node up to the document
22:28 ^🔗	joepie91	check if removing it from the chain will yield the same unique result
22:28 ^🔗	joepie91	and if yes, remove it
22:28 ^🔗	joepie91	so that for example table > tr > td.author could be optimized into table > td.author
22:48 ^🔗	godane	interview of the batman movie from 2005: http://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video9210
23:05 ^🔗	DFJustin	some hopeful updates on the timbuktu story http://paleojudaica.blogspot.co.uk/2013_01_27_archive.html#325601919578210864
23:05 ^🔗	joepie91	chronomex: I significantly improved the scraperscript
23:06 ^🔗	joepie91	it now optimizes out all nodes that it can, without breaking uniqueness or increasing fragility
23:06 ^🔗	joepie91	it'll for example always make sure that there's at least one non-nth-child node before it starts optimizing out things
23:10 ^🔗	shaqfu	DFJustin: That's a bit hopeful
23:16 ^🔗	chronomex	what the fuck is wrong with people anyway
23:20 ^🔗	Aranje	before the internet, that's how you destroy a culture
23:28 ^🔗	godane	you can still destroy culture if you attack the IA
23:28 ^🔗	godane	or emp
23:29 ^🔗	godane	i think you need to emp proof the case the walls of where the IA servers are
23:30 ^🔗	godane	it adds another way to safe case the data
23:35 ^🔗	ersi	what.. are you.. I don't even..
23:41 ^🔗	shaqfu	I don't think the CS church needs chicken wire in the plaster

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