[01:07] How long do other stress test their hard drives? I do a full badblocks and then a 35 pass test [01:07] I was reading how some people slam the drive for 7 days [01:07] which does sound reasonable since it is always easier to return drives in the first 30 days [01:40] I write checksummed random data and verify the checksums, so one pass of write and read [01:41] takes ~22 hours for a 5K4000 [01:41] if I were more thorough I would test it with some crazy seeking too [01:43] had any fails after doing that? [01:44] A blog post I just read said there is no advantage to raid 1 over rsync [01:44] I have about 30 drives and no failures [01:45] unless you count bitflips during reads or writes [01:46] I had one 5K4000 DOA that wouldn't even finish spinning up [01:46] I want to make a post pointing out how raid can recover a file even if bits of both versions are busted as long as there is no overlap unlike rsync [01:46] yeah I had more than a few doa over time [01:47] I use a really strange checksumming program for my NTFS that would also let me do that [01:48] that failure mode has never come up though [01:50] http://www.datacent.com/hard_drive_sounds.php the best sounds [01:51] I am the kind of person who removes dust regularly and discharges static before touching things, so I understand why everyone else has piles of dead drives ;) [02:21] yeah I have seen it happen [02:21] one wrong touch and it is dead. I always touch the case first to make sure I have no charge [02:23] I am just surprised how expensive multibay external enclosures can be [02:23] all it is is some metal and a power supply [02:24] they don't make as many of them [02:25] cost of production is amortized over fewer units [02:27] yeah unless I go server. Those are more reasonable [02:27] it is fucking 2013 and there is still no good data backup solution [02:28] you can get a vibrator attachment for an ipod but your fucked if you need to backup more than a few tb [02:43] paper tape just isn't dense enough, bro [03:26] omf_: I've got a 4 bay SATA to eSATA storage unit, and I know they still make similiar units now [03:26] dashcloud, would you recommend the one you got? [03:28] funny story- I never got around to using it for the projects I had in mind. Things came up, and I never really unboxed it other than the card that came with it [03:29] could you do software raid with it? [03:29] wow vcdhelp is now videohelp. Been a long time since I was on that site [03:31] I think so- and it supports port multiplier technology so you can have all 4 drives using only a single eSATA port (if your card/mobo supports that tech) [03:31] but if you need huge amounts of storage, and you've got the time + money, this is probably what you wanted: http://blog.backblaze.com/2011/07/20/petabytes-on-a-budget-v2-0revealing-more-secrets/ [03:35] that is what I really want [03:35] but let me be honest [03:35] I am still in debt from doing 2 college degrees [03:35] read the original blog post linked there for more info, and the rest of the instructions. The comments are also interesting- there's a couple of folks who have built them [03:35] I need a 3 year temp backup solution for at least 12 tb [03:39] well from research it seems a combo of the disk type and bluray burner is why all those disks failed and are less than 2 years old [03:40] but it is hard to find solid data or reviews because people in general buy cheap media [03:41] buy stuff with a good warranty then [03:42] Only now are there even what I would consider good bluray burners on the market [03:42] the first 2 generations were terrible [03:42] and the media itself still has not hit the quality level of dvdr [03:43] I get unlabeled tiaen yudo disks and they rock, no coasters [03:43] I ran some media tests earlier and burns from 2006 are all good 6 years later [03:44] I am actually going to write an article with data about all this and get it out there so people know [03:44] short version: All LG and Asus bluray burners are junk [03:45] I am trying to archive here people [03:45] :) [03:48] so you want something like this model: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817198047 [03:49] aaawww yeah icy dock [03:49] I used their equipment for years at one of my jobs [03:50] way ahead of their time [03:59] yeah I am going to get that icy dock [04:10] i'm using bluray to back up [04:11] I just had a 99% disk failure using bluray [04:11] that were less than 2 years old [04:12] it is not mature enough yet and this is coming from someone who has a 2nd gen dvd burner in 2000 [04:12] I lost data [04:13] godane, what media brand are you using [04:14] memorex and verbatim [04:15] memorex is the only one i can find at my staples saidly [04:15] what speed verbatim [04:16] for me the 2x in retesting is a total flop [04:16] using 6x [04:17] LTH or regular [04:17] regular [04:17] LTH is bad from what i have read [04:17] i just bought some memorex disks [04:18] Do you look your media up on http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia [04:25] its the memorex ritek br2 [04:25] sadly most of them say burn rebliabilty is good [04:25] last review was from 2011 [04:27] only one verbatim non LTH review from 2011 [04:28] woohoo the dvdr backup check passed 100% with a random sample [04:28] at least I got those right [04:28] i add sha256sum file to all my bluray burns also [04:35] Yeah I keep a checksum list off the media [04:35] never thought about putting it on there [04:38] might be worth throwing some PAR files on there too [04:49] godane, any reason you picked sha256, md5 does enough to tell you if a file has changed [04:51] its just to futureproof it [04:51] faster computers maybe able to fake md5sums [04:54] to make data to beat it is far harder than most people suspect [04:54] and then to make that dangerous or an exploit is crazy hard [04:55] DFJustin, I like to keep the par2 files on a different medium [06:12] all of bits and bytes v2 is uploaded now [06:13] i'm now uploading discoverly download series [06:13] the true story of the internet [06:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bcSh4qF_W5M [06:16] just found some cool [06:17] 700 club and christian world news [06:17] are on youtube [06:23] we maybe able to get full episode as far back as 2009 [06:29] now this is weird [06:29] some more recent programs are 1 hour [06:30] i think i figure it [06:30] the 2 hour programs i think was a telathon [07:23] Old Zelda Commercial Dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3THavMxNDE [10:13] how we doin archivers? [11:05] We [11:05] New Zealand [11:05] I get to rant on stage on Friday [11:05] Gotta work on the show [11:06] I am wearing a wholly inappropriate costume for Friday onstage. It'll be memorale. [11:17] So you'll be dressed up as a bottle of Memor Ale? [11:18] can't say I've ever heard of this Memor Ale but whatever [12:58] SketchCow: I uploaded a v2 of bits and bytes [12:59] its bigger avi files and a vhsrip of the broadcast at 640x480 [13:00] just know there is a bits and bytes 2 series [13:00] so the collection will have to be so of bitsandbytes-v2 [13:00] or something [13:05] http://archive.org/details/tosec is about to happen [13:06] godane: I'll think on it. [13:09] also download the true story of the internet is uploaded [13:10] SketchCow: I uploaded 'The Pirate Bay - Away From Keyboard' [13:11] the 480p version anyways [13:11] also would tosec become dark listed [13:12] only cause i think alot of software companys may not like it [13:18] ---- [13:18] Any torrents available? [13:18] Nope! [13:18] Nothing has EVER or EVER will be created/hosted or generated by us, our server or anybody we instructed to do so. [13:18] I am 100% against the Torrent technology and recent Pirate Bay focus has proven my disrespect for Torrents since its birth. [13:18] I ask myself: "How can people actually imagine that this kind of sharing (of illegal material) is allowed in any form or way?. Is people really that dumb?" [13:18] Yes, amazing to see how many fools there are in the world with no clue to what ownership and copyright consists of. Not to mention getting payed for something a talent created for you to enjoy. Where is the respect? The world has gotten obnoxious and Torrents is a beautifull way of showing how ignorant MOST people are. Braindead zombies with white-brains tripping with the bandwagon followers and with absolutely no mind and soul of their own. Re [13:18] No, you should all become like me and the world would be a better place. No shit. Own mind. Own decisions. Just bliss. [13:18] During 2009 I laugh at all the problems and focus Torrent technology has gotten, and for those who lost their way of getting their files. It makes me just wanna say "I told you, HA-HA!" [13:18] --- [13:18] Everything can potentially be dark-listed [13:20] wow, who's dissing torrents? [13:20] If they are american, I'd love to know their views on gun ownership [13:22] sorry [13:22] just was bring up a point [13:23] SmileyG: Norway [13:23] SketchCow: heh [13:23] i know the swish have a automatic weapon in every home [13:24] they are no where near norway godane :) [13:24] ok [13:24] And they are army trained. [13:24] It's cute. [13:24] lol [13:24] It's an outdated view on Torrent technology, which is sad since he's a talented guy. [13:25] But it's OK, I'll just put all of it on archive.org. [13:25] It's only 448gb of material. [13:25] it was torrent technology i was saying that was a problem [13:25] godane: why? [13:26] *not the problem [13:26] typing to fast [13:26] k, lol [13:27] i just don't want nintendo to go crazy with the lawsuits [13:27] http://archive.org/details/tosec_dat_19-2012-12-28 [13:27] Hoooray [13:31] also i have stuff like BlenderArt and Chip magazine from India to upload at some point [13:32] random thought [13:32] And how are you doing with the book scanner? [13:32] i have not scanned much yet [13:32] on my crap slitaz distro [13:33] the scan can be seen but sane-backends doesn't think its there [13:35] http://archive.org/details/tosec_dat_18-2012-09-15 [13:35] ....and so on. As I can, I'll be uploading these dat files off their site. [13:35] And then into the software itself. [13:35] They claim they have 3.8tb of total software data up. [13:36] And yes, godane, Nintendo is going up, right into darkness. [13:36] Nintendo has made their opinions known on the subject, as has Sony [13:36] hope it changes at some point [13:37] the 3.8tb is maybe ps2, psp, xbox dumps [13:38] i know that on underground gamer one guy recompress tosec in 7z [13:38] i think it got it to 400gb or something [13:39] sega dreamcast tosec is like 529.42gb on ug [13:40] now i since sega is out of hardware business would that get dark? [13:42] i found tosec amiga cd at 232gb [13:43] sega saturn tosec 2009-07-12 at 179.71gb [13:43] IBM PC Compatibies - CD -Games TOSEC-v2009-07-11 at179.69gb [13:44] there is tons of stuff that tosec has to think 3.8tb is about right [13:50] Yeah, the number didn't shock me [13:57] another blockbuster training video: http://archive.org/details/Starmaker.Training.Series.The.Difficult.Guest.2002 [14:00] SketchCow: wow, the flaming-torrents guy [14:00] I... have no words for how much stupid is in that blob of text [14:00] :| [14:06] Can archive.org browse rar archives? I don't think so [14:07] I'd say unlikely as well, but maybe - there's FUSE bindings available for RAR [14:09] Nope. [14:09] Understandable [14:11] Just have to convert the TOSEC sets, then. [14:11] Trivial. [14:12] Also, just switched to LibreOffice 4.0. Slicker. [14:14] i found a young george lucas [14:14] before star wars interview [14:14] in 1971 [14:32] i thought TOSEC sets are zip files [14:39] SketchCow: We always knew Sockington was actually pope. [14:43] SketchCow: i have uploaded making the most of the micro [14:44] thats another collection from the 1980s doc films [15:05] now this is weird [15:05] i have a video thats out of sync in mplayer [15:05] but not in in vlc [15:14] o_O [15:27] anyways it another g4 special [15:29] in another 2 hours you will have a big thinkers collection [15:29] there is only 11 episodes i could find [15:29] but there the original files i think [15:32] computersandtechvideos is past 10k mark [15:32] 10024 [15:33] i think i have helped add at less 8.5k videos to it [15:33] also i have uploaded over 10k files [18:16] http://explicitly.me/robots.txt [19:37] you guys now have Big Thinkers [19:37] 11 episodes of it anyways [19:44] So does anyone here who works for IA want to sell/ship me an IA shirt? I was emailing someone there but they don't seem to want to get back to me after I said I wasn't local [19:50] uploaded: http://archive.org/details/Big_Thinkers_-_Alvin_Toffler_Futurist [19:51] godane, your mplayer and vlc are probably compiled against different versions of ffmpeg [19:53] thinking that [19:53] my distro i have helped build is almost a year old [19:54] need make a new livecd at some point this week [20:48] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/11/esquire-network-g4_n_2662818.html [20:55] godane, do you still need help downloading articles from a news site [20:55] I think it was gaming related [21:10] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/26/attack-of-the-show-canceled-x-play_n_2025163.html [21:10] lolwat @ header image [21:12] yes [21:37] uploaded: https://archive.org/details/The_Emperors_New_Mind_Roger_Penrose_-_VHS_rip [21:37] the 1990s version of the kinects is showed in that video [23:11] I suggest a panic download of http://www.ronpaul.com [ see http://www.ronpaul.com/2013-02-08/ron-paul-vs-ronpaul-com/ ] [23:13] so what's the liveweb url? liveweb.archive.org? [23:14] yes, http://liveweb.archive.org/http://www.ronpaul.com [23:15] that actually doesn't work right anymore, you have to do http://web.archive.org/liveweb/http://whatever to force a crawl if it already has a copy [23:16] ah ok [23:17] anyone know of a way to get historical DNS info? epicclassics.com just points to a parked domain page now, and I'd like to try to contact the folks who ran it, but the email address in the wayback copy is also dead now [23:18] I've used the liveweb link for http://www.ronpaul.com