| Time |
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Message |
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00:04
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* |
SmileyG looks in |
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00:04
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SmileyG |
Well, shit |
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00:04
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* |
SmileyG wishes he could do more but fuck today has taken it outta me. |
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00:05
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SmileyG |
and it a satuday, and i spent most of it actually working |
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00:05
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SmileyG |
they'll pay! |
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00:05
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SketchCow |
Yeah, one of the secrets of archive.org is that there's not a lot of days off. |
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00:06
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SketchCow |
It's cute because the HR person wants us to report hours worked and hours of vacation/time off, and for a good portion of us, there's no moment that's not a workday. |
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00:06
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SmileyG |
:D |
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00:06
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balrog_ |
lol hr |
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00:06
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SmileyG |
So, I got a phone call at 10am |
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00:06
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SketchCow |
I mean, I'm fucking insane, so I'm doing it 24/7, but I do see people react on Sundays at 3am, Friday nights at 10pm, what have you |
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00:06
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SmileyG |
I was with my laptop all day, until 6pm |
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00:06
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SmileyG |
Thats a full working day. Do i think I'll get given a day off in leu? Do I fuck. |
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00:06
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SketchCow |
I did a 48 hour nonstop tech support con call once. |
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00:06
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SmileyG |
Hell, I prob did more work today than I'd normally do as well. |
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00:06
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SketchCow |
That was the beginning of the end, actually. |
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00:07
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ersi |
I think that's because of actually having a noble goal and common interest - not just "make the ink black" |
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00:07
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SketchCow |
When I stopped giving a real shit and they stopped giving me a career path. |
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00:07
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SketchCow |
10 years into working for a place, you shouldn't be on 48 hour support calls |
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00:07
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SmileyG |
nod. |
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00:07
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ersi |
shrug, fuck no |
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00:07
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SmileyG |
well our internet at work got fucked last sat. |
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00:07
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SmileyG |
Or we started doing enough traffic to show up the issue |
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00:07
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SmileyG |
FUcking ISP plus 1st, 2nd and 3rd level engineers all telling me I'm wrong/don't know wht I'm talking about |
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00:08
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SmileyG |
Turns out I was right. Fuck the multinational ISP's with their fucking know it all engineers. |
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00:08
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SmileyG |
I'm the guy who built his own router and did research into various queueing algo's. When I say thats the cause, I didn't claim it for lols. |
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00:09
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ersi |
Careers in themselfs aren't worth pulling afterburners for imo |
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00:09
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SmileyG |
ersi: i'm just fucked off at my self partly for not pushing harder |
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00:09
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SmileyG |
I *knew* I was right |
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00:10
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SmileyG |
then again, I woudln't of been getting personal thanks for the CTO otherwise if I had, it'd just of been a "normal" issue. |
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00:10
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ersi |
was more thinking about the "not getting a compensation day off" |
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00:10
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ersi |
that's always nice though |
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00:10
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SmileyG |
well, offically all our out of hours support is done on a best effort basis |
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00:11
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SmileyG |
If I'd decided to not answer the phone, there would be no major come back, it'd just be frowned at. |
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00:11
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SmileyG |
Same way if I'd turned around and gone "sorry, I'm in a zoo". |
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00:11
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SmileyG |
I might ask to do 2 days working from home or something instead. |
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00:12
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SmileyG |
That way I can still cope with any urgent queries, but have some time to relax. |
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00:12
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SmileyG |
and that way, its two days not having to get up 3 hours before owrk for the train. |
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00:15
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* |
ersi shrug |
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00:15
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SmileyG |
indeed |
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00:15
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ersi |
I go up like, 1h to 20min before train departs |
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00:16
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SmileyG |
i get up 6amish, train comes 7:33ish, get to work 8:30ish for 9am start. |
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00:16
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SmileyG |
normally get a little lie in, and it gives me time if the train is late/screwed - which is often |
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00:19
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SmileyG |
hmmm |
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01:11
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godane |
Firefly composers talk with Leo :-D |
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01:11
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godane |
i found that maybe |
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05:21
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chronomex |
SmileyG: is anarchy your bot? |
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11:18
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SmileyG |
No, it's GLaDOS's |
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12:23
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ersi |
Oh man, fuck the EU - scary that Cyprus one-time-taxes *all* bank accounts in the whole country of Cyprus, regardless if foreign or national owner just to solve liquidity problems |
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12:24
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omf_ |
yeah that is no good at all |
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12:27
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ersi |
Swedens banks aren't exactly in tip top shape either |
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12:28
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Cameron_D |
Someone linked a cost-per-terabyte chart the other day in one of these channels, anyone still have the link handy? |
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12:28
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omf_ |
I got it here |
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12:29
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omf_ |
this the prices from newegg http://www.edwardbetts.com/price_per_tb/ |
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12:30
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Cameron_D |
cheers |
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13:36
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godane |
ok so there maybe a odtv-twit collection coming at some point |
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13:37
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godane |
but this is collection will be specail cause it will need sub-collections also |
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13:38
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godane |
this is so we have the offical podcast collection and this will be the unoffical podcast collection of twit shows |
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13:42
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godane |
but then again we could just throw a -odtv at the end of item id with odtv in keywords |
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14:28
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soultcer |
[3006870.565380] sd 20:0:0:0: [sde] Add. Sense: Logical block address out of range |
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14:28
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soultcer |
[3006870.565386] sd 20:0:0:0: [sde] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 08 00 |
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14:28
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soultcer |
[3006870.565392] end_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector 4096 |
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14:29
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soultcer |
It's dead :-( |
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14:30
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omf_ |
how big was that drive? |
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14:31
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soultcer |
2.0 TB |
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14:32
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omf_ |
how old was the drive? Did you have backups? |
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14:32
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godane |
try using spinright |
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14:32
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godane |
or spinwrite |
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14:33
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godane |
http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm |
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14:33
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godane |
you may have a chance with get it back with that |
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14:34
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godane |
from what i have heard |
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14:34
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godane |
soultcer: ^ |
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14:34
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soultcer |
I could hear the read/write arm scratching over the disk while it started, so I don't have high hopes |
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14:34
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soultcer |
Still, worth a try |
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14:35
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godane |
oh |
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14:35
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godane |
i thought your just getting that error |
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14:36
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soultcer |
Nah, I dropped it to the floor |
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14:38
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godane |
so i'm close to get you guys 12gb of exterinal images from the g4 forums uploaded |
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14:39
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godane |
i'm a little worry that g4tv.com will change over night |
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14:54
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ersi |
omf_: yeah, pretty nasty @ re cyprus "bailout" |
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14:54
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omf_ |
Hey look the Cyprus government essential stole money http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2013/03/cyprus-bail-out |
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14:55
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godane |
fuck yes |
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14:55
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omf_ |
Lets see how the banks handle people pulling their money out |
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14:55
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godane |
i got a video episode of twit 214 |
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14:55
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godane |
its not linked on there page |
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14:56
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ersi |
omf_: Yeah, I'm a bit worried |
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14:56
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ersi |
Got a lot of savings |
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14:56
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godane |
i have been hearing that the market may have up to a 90% correction |
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14:56
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omf_ |
Forming the EU was a mistake |
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14:57
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godane |
so 14k stock market goes to 1.4k |
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14:57
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ersi |
heh, no shit |
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14:57
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omf_ |
You cannot take counties with long history and turn them into "states" |
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14:57
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Samuel_Mi |
you mean, letting the weaker countries in? |
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14:57
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omf_ |
lets take the UK |
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14:57
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Samuel_Mi |
the EU wasn't created, it grew |
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14:57
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omf_ |
they held out for years to not be in that shit |
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14:57
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ersi |
Samuel_Mi: Both |
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14:57
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omf_ |
now after being forced in they want out |
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14:58
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omf_ |
one of the core reasons being it fucked up their currency value |
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14:58
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ersi |
I'm glad Sweden didn't join the EMU.. but that doesn't mean we're in the clear |
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14:59
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omf_ |
You cannot just force a bunch of people together and hope if fixes problems |
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14:59
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ersi |
Depends on the scope |
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14:59
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Samuel_Mi |
it started with a trade agreement between Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg. That grew into the European Coal and Steel Community, which became the EEC and now it's the EU |
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14:59
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ersi |
if you just want more power, then consolidating a few countries of course give you that |
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15:00
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Samuel_Mi |
if you're going to let southern european countries into your club, you must know you're going to pay for them and that they'll never be straight as an arrow. It's a cultural difference. |
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15:01
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omf_ |
Greece should have been allowed to fully collapse |
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15:01
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Samuel_Mi |
As long as the other countries can afford to bail southern europe out, and they don't mind doing so without getting anything in return, all's good |
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15:02
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Samuel_Mi |
If not, those countries shouldn't be allowed in in the first place |
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15:03
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omf_ |
Also creating the Euro was dumb. How are you supposed to normalize the currency? Not only does it require business changes, it requires government changes and people changes too |
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15:04
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Samuel_Mi |
"omf_: You cannot take counties with long history and turn them into "states"" They did in the US and China, it's possible. |
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15:04
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omf_ |
The US did it via genocide mostly. We killed the fuck out of the people here and took over |
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15:04
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omf_ |
China did the same thing |
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15:05
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omf_ |
Hell most of the countries in Europe are older than the US. It is not like the slate can be wiped clean and people start over |
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15:06
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Samuel_Mi |
I wasn't talking about the natives, but the period 1600-1865 |
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15:07
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Samuel_Mi |
in which the parts of the US were a lot more diverse as they are now |
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15:07
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omf_ |
Oh you mean the other wars, crooked deals to buy land and those kinds of deals. |
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15:07
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Samuel_Mi |
yeah, those ;) |
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15:10
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Samuel_Mi |
"omf_: Also creating the Euro was dumb." the Ecu (the former name of the Euro) was fine at the time for the countries it was designed for: Belgium, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and West Germany. |
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15:11
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Samuel_Mi |
nowadays, Italy wouldn't pass the test, so it wouldn't get the Ecu |
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15:12
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Samuel_Mi |
Instead, the UK and the northern european countries could join in. I think that would make for a lot more stable currency |
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15:13
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Samuel_Mi |
And if any other European countries wanted to join in, they'd had to meet strict requirements for at least 10 years before being accepted |
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15:13
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Samuel_Mi |
(this last part is where it went wrong, imho) |
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15:17
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ersi |
Uh, the United States aren't exactly "old" |
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15:17
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ersi |
isn't* |
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15:19
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Samuel_Mi |
you wouldn't believe how much culture is created in 50 years, and how entitled and unique feel about living in one place for that amount of time. Look at the Arabs who migrated to Israel since 1948. |
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15:20
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Samuel_Mi |
*how entitled they feel about living in that place for that amount of time |
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15:20
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Samuel_Mi |
It's enough time to have a 3rd generation being born there. |
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15:20
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ersi |
As a pure trade union, the EU isn't such a bad idea. As an country by it self, it is. Regardless of the United States success as a country |
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15:20
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Samuel_Mi |
no one sees the EU as a country |
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15:21
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ersi |
Sure. |
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15:22
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Samuel_Mi |
No irishman will say to a greek: we live in the same country, we share the same culture, we're the same |
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15:22
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ersi |
That's not the same |
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15:22
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Samuel_Mi |
even though they have the same currency |
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15:22
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Samuel_Mi |
and the same european constitution |
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15:22
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Samuel_Mi |
and the same european parliament |
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15:23
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Samuel_Mi |
and the same european anthem |
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15:23
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ersi |
If you havn't noticed, that's what the Council/parliament is trying to do. Make it a country. |
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15:23
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ersi |
At least from what I can see |
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15:24
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ersi |
There's a lot of acting like a common body, rather than individual parts |
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15:24
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ersi |
at least in the international arena |
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15:25
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Samuel_Mi |
oh absolutely, but I think we're both tying to say the same thing: it will take decades for the citizens to feel as one |
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15:25
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Samuel_Mi |
*trying |
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15:26
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Samuel_Mi |
look at the US: many people in the southern states still feel separate from the rest |
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15:26
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Samuel_Mi |
and that supposedly was settled 150 years ago |
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15:27
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ersi |
yeah |
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15:28
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ersi |
dunno how I feel about it though |
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15:41
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Schbirid |
any idea what the perl html TagParser library that warrick needs is called in archlinux? |
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15:43
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ersi |
HTML::TagParser probably |
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15:44
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ersi |
http://search.cpan.org/~kawasaki/HTML-TagParser-0.20/lib/HTML/TagParser.pm |
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15:50
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Schbirid |
cheers, damn cpan! |
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16:20
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omf_ |
HTML::TagParser is just sugar around HTML::Parser. If it is too slow you can always drop down a level |
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16:20
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omf_ |
HTML::Parser is written in C |
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16:21
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omf_ |
with a Perl interface on top to make it easy |
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18:29
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|
godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/forums.g4tv.com-all-images-20130314 |
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18:29
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godane |
12gb of images |
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18:31
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godane |
SketchCow: another amiga format magazine: http://www.oldgamemags.com/index.php/magazines/48-commodore-amiga/amiga-format/383-amiga-format-101 |
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18:45
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godane |
i'm doing one last grab of the g4 forums |
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18:46
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godane |
mostly just the update pages or new ones |
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18:46
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|
godane |
not doing a full grab |
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19:47
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DFJustin |
http://sv.twitch.tv/diskborstemc |
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19:53
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ersi |
haha, great name |
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19:54
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ersi |
dish brush MC ;D |
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21:09
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ersi |
Hm, it's interesting that Twitter.com locks your reload actions (hitting F5) and tells you to join the cult |
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21:11
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Samuel_Mi |
at least thats not as bad as what Quora does |
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21:11
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Samuel_Mi |
if you want to read more than one answer, you need to sign up and log in |
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21:47
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joepie91 |
<ersi>Hm, it's interesting that Twitter.com locks your reload actions (hitting F5) and tells you to join the cult |
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21:47
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joepie91 |
yes, this is very annoying |
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21:47
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joepie91 |
it's hooked to 'retweet' on individual tweet pages |
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21:48
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joepie91 |
so I often inadvertently almost-retweet something when I'm just trying to see an updated amount of retweets |
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21:48
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joepie91 |
and Samuel_Mi, that reminds me of expertsexchange... |
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22:37
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SketchCow |
Ha ha expertexchange |
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22:37
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SketchCow |
I would lock those people in a shed on fire |
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23:00
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joepie91 |
SketchCow: why'd you leave out the S in the name? blew a potentially great pun there :( |