#archiveteam-bs 2013-05-11,Sat

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00:04 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 omf_: arrogance and quality of work are not mutually exclusive :)
00:05 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I am watching his vaunted video series and he talks about how things grew and completely ignores entire sections of what was going on
00:05 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Then justifies his view by saying that history proves it if you ignore the same things he ignored
00:09 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Then again what did I expect from a series of talks about how great javascript is, reality is obviously not required
00:11 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ People always like to play off javascripts weakness because it was designed and implemented in 2 weeks. How many years of EMCA meetings and mailings lists has it taken to get JS to where it is now
00:11 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ and it still does some whack ass shit
03:17 ๐Ÿ”— BlueMax what was that.
12:53 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/10391/the-security-trainwreck-that-is-zpanel/p1
12:57 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 joepie91: Again?
12:59 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 joepie91: Ok, I don't see the details, I am not diving into it at all, as never used it, but as you describe it (and considering your skills and knowledge), this is bad
12:59 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 terrible so to say
12:59 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 and yes, I also hate the same attitude of "take it or leave it"
13:02 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 far worse
13:02 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 norbert79: it's worse than 'bad'
13:02 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 :(
13:02 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I ran across the forum post that I talk about there, yesterday
13:02 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 with bobby claiming that they weren't problems etc
13:02 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and I just went "you've got to be kidding me..."
13:02 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and decided to make a summary
13:02 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 these guys have absolutely no fucking clue
13:03 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 and that's not the biggest issue
13:03 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 because nobody is perfect
13:03 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 the main issue is, that they don't care
13:03 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 indeed
13:04 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 honestly, had I contacted them, they'd scared the shit out of them and fixed it, there would have been no issue
13:04 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and I would be perfectly fine with it
13:04 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 yeah, agree
13:04 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 but they've been trying to find reasons NOT to fix things for months now
13:04 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it's ridiculous
13:04 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 I have no skills to do a similar tracking, maybe with time... But if you check on something and they give a crap... That's an issue
13:05 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 btw as payback I would have demoed the issue doing a rooting on their own system
13:05 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 just to prove a point
13:05 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I'd rather not v&
13:05 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 :P
13:06 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 The main issue I was moving away from Panel based solutions was
13:06 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 that some are poorly written
13:06 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 like there is Cpanel
13:06 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 s/some/most/
13:06 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 it can't handle SSH [Case] situations
13:06 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 that said, cpanel isn't great either...
13:06 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 it helps with database settings, mailing a lot, that's true
13:06 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 basically, all web hosting panels suck balls
13:06 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 but if I wish to have some specific setting
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 like a plain Match User case
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 and it fucks it up
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 by adding the users to the END of the file
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 that breaks my balls
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 haha
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 on that note
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 seriously, you have to keep Allowuser root to TRUE
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 there's such a disconnect
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 to have the cpanel working right
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 nonsense
13:08 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 worst part: some panel writers are asking for money for those
13:08 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 ok, fine ask money for support
13:08 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 but the code should stay open
13:08 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 half the people says proprietary software is absolutely fine, and that "but you cannot fix things yourself in proprietary software" is not a valid reason
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 the other half of the people meets an issue in $proprietary_thing, and is frustrated because they cannot fix it
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 clearly both cannot be true at the same time...
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 well
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 I think the second is mostly more valid
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 especially in commercial and business systems
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 the thing is
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 the second one is objective
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it is an experience that happens
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 there is no disputing
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 the first one is, at best, an opinion
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 I mean you cannot rollout a software because some fricking simple bug for tousand of systems... ok go on
13:10 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Agree
13:10 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 at worst, an uneducated claim based on commonly repeated pseudo-knowledge, that holds no basis in reality
13:10 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 combined with some fallacies for good measure, typically
13:10 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 maybe the first refers to cases where you don't touch the code or try to reverse checking as you wish to do a very simple thing
13:10 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Like my example: Simple laser printer
13:10 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 the problem really is that the first one is said by people that have never experienced the second
13:10 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Acculaser M1200 Epson
13:10 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and because _they_ haven't experienced it, noone has
13:11 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Oh, I see
13:11 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 according to them
13:11 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it's a complete lack of seeing the bigger picture
13:11 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 well
13:11 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 I said the first sentence a few times, but during an install of an application to a regular office Windows where I knew all the details yet the application to be installed was as informative as a stubborn ox
13:12 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 "install cannot be completed, try again"
13:12 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 no error codes, nothing
13:12 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 and it was necessary for work
13:12 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 so in this case i tried to fix my issue
13:13 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 but I couldn't really do so
13:13 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 so this might be referring to such scenarios
13:13 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 or was at least in my case
13:13 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 anyway, zPanel, no-go
13:15 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 sounds like a similar problem
13:15 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and, indeed
13:16 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 btw I just start to love my new Genius keyboard... KB-G235
13:16 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 finally my daughter can sleep and I can type :)
13:17 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 seems like an okay keyboard
13:17 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 how heavy is it?
13:18 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 light
13:18 ๐Ÿ”— * joepie91 has http://www.areadvd.de/images/2010/medion_erazer_7717/tastatur.jpg
13:18 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 (it's backlit)
13:18 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 100 gr maybe
13:18 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 ah :(
13:18 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 mine is probably close to a kilo
13:18 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Yours looks also nice
13:18 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 (also, my keyboard layout is a bit different from what you see on the image, but same keyboard otherwise)
13:18 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 mine was around 15 รขย‚ยฌ
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 mine was 20
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 iirc
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 fair price too
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it has 3 colors backlight, extra heavy
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and rock solid
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 backlight is a nice feature altough
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 I am missing that here
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 (backlight is also smoothly dimmable)
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 but being quite was my first goal
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 anyway, I recently spilled an entire thermos (!) of hot water over it
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 "quiet"
13:19 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 ouch
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it took me 10 seconds to unplug it and turn it upside down on a blanket
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 zero damage
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 hah
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it had absolutely no issues with it
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 cool
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 ... apparently it's waterproof too
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 lol
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 lucky
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 heheh
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 anwyay, I type quite intensively
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Well, I had an older Samsung keyboard, white
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 to the point where a Logitech keyboard will break in <3 months
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 in my hands
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and it even survives that
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 and I still own a pre-windows logod keyboard...
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 doesn't bend either, at all
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 like, it takes the impact and all
13:20 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 but it doesn't actually *bend*
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 most keyboards do bend to a degree
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 heh, nice...
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 anyway, I've had this keyboard for like 5 years now
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 my previous one was 9 years old
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 same for my mouse
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 both still work fine
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 only thing is that my keycaps are starting to become unreadable :(
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 (and it's kinda noisy, but it types very pleasantly)
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 hehhe, yeah
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 yeah
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 :p
13:21 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 must've been a good one then
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 yeah, mine was meant for being silent as a lamb
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 heh
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 chopped
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 :)
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 the noise is a bit problematic here really
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 bf is currently in the same room
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 doing voice acting stuffs
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and his professional mic actually picks up my typing
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 a few meters away
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 lol
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG unreadable keys on a keyboard is a problem why?
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I've had complaints before because "it sounds like you're shooting a machine gun"
13:22 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 http://pckeyboard.com/page/PC122/UB40B5A - I wish for one of these or...
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 keyboard noise + typing speed == deadly
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 :p
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 SmileyG: it is for people that aren't used to blind typing
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG joepie91: indeed.
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG but n oone touches my pc other htan me
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG "wtf where is the start button?"
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 that's mostly my policy
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 http://pckeyboard.com/page/Classic/UNI044A
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 haha
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Or this
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 but I am waiting for the new stock of classic 101 and 102
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 but, bf also occasionally uses my PC (only when I'm here)
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG "zomg your mouse is so fast"
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and he touch types.. kind of
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 half touch half blind
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 ish
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 idk
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it's a strange way of typing
13:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 but he has issues with keys not being labeled, at times
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG I can even type with ofsets when keyboards are in weird places such as to my side, or behind me
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Well, I can only use 6 fingers
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I have a lot of issues with differently laid out keyboards
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 especially laptop keyboards
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG joepie91: takes me a few minutes to retrain and then i'm fine most of the time
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 but I have the layout of this keyboard etched into my mind pretty much
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG only problem is size of keys
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 :P
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Mine is generic Hungarian.. Oh I hate laptop keyboards too, but Lenovo had a pretty ok one for the T430
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG an d how far down they go
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 also, re: bf's typing style: he uses two fingers, sometimes three... yet he hits very close to my typing speed
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG if they don't depress, i get angry :D
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 perhaps 20 wpm less or so
13:25 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 idk how he does it
13:25 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 SmileyG: that's my primary gripe with laptop keyboards
13:25 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 my current laptop is one of the very few keyboards that has a keyboard with a pleasant travel distance and click
13:25 ๐Ÿ”— BlueMax ...you're a girl? O_O
13:25 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 even though it's not a large travel distance
13:25 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 cheapo lenovo netbook
13:25 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 no
13:25 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I'm not
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 But you could be :D
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Sorry
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 anyway, the only other laptop I've ever liked in terms of keyboard, were the school laptops...
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 strangely enough
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Acer Timeline something
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 best laptop keyboard I've ever used
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 If laptop, then Lenovo category T...
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 norbert79: I don't like the keyboard on the higher end Lenovos
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it's like someone put pillows under the keys...
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— godane so i'm at 5291gb uploaded now
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I want them to click
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Yeah, on the other hand they are compact
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 then again, there's worse
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Ooh, the issue is with the clicking
13:26 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 macbook keyboards...
13:27 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 are absolutely atrocious
13:27 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 to me
13:27 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 only packard bell laptop keyboards are more unpleasant than apple keyboards imo
13:27 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 joepie91: For clicking keyboards I would suggest Unicomp Buckle Spring or "Das Keyboard" :)
13:27 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 that's some old school
13:27 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 expensive
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I've been looking at das keyboard in particular
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 but can't afford it right now
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 but I'm fine with my Medion for now
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it's not a mechanic keyboard, but it's not far off in terms of feel :)
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 yeah, that seems nice
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 :)
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG It's shameful to say but the cheap dell keyboards you get with their desktops are alright.
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and about as durable
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 My family would hate me bad if I would have one of those keyboards :)
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 SmileyG: yes, the Dell keyboards are okay
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 finally the missus is happy with my current
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 as are the Trust keyboards
13:28 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and, surprisingly, the 5 euro keyboards from the local discount store
13:29 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 they're extremely light, but they're okay to type on
13:29 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 norbert79: hah
13:29 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 also, note how BlueMax woke up just to ask whether I was a girl, and then stopped responding :P
13:29 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG Trust are nice, yup.
13:29 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG I like logitech ones too, the old ones
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG Media keyboards with the media keys but nothing extra than that.
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Logitech $anything always breaks for me
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 in <1 year
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 most stuff in <3 months
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— BlueMax well I'm not able to follow the conversation because I've had nothing but crap keyboards in my life
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 like, literally always
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Trust > Logitech for durability
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Trust is a bit strange anyway
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it's all rebranded imported chinese stuff
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— * norbert79 just realizes that joepie91 "<3" means less, than three ...
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 damn it, too many chat with the missus
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 haha
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 <3 is heart for me
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 :p
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 same, normally
13:30 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I'll put a space inbetween normally
13:31 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 anyway, Trust has some terrible stuff, and a lot of good stuff
13:31 ๐Ÿ”— BlueMax I see a wizard hat with boobs dangling off it
13:31 ๐Ÿ”— godane i'm over 5000 found techtv videos
13:31 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 if you pay attention to what you buy, you pay dirt for something that will probably outlive you
13:31 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 especially their speakers are really pleasant
13:31 ๐Ÿ”— GLaDOS I got a Lenovo keyboard from when I was in an isolated community.
13:31 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 right now, I have a pair of old (!) Trust speakers hooked up to my pc
13:31 ๐Ÿ”— GLaDOS They just had some spares.
13:31 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 they have been actively used for over 15 years
13:32 ๐Ÿ”— GLaDOS 2 years in, it's still perfectly fine.
13:32 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and still function
13:32 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it recently got some contact issues with the volume button, and it seems an internal wire for the subwoofer output has gotten loose
13:32 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 but both are fixable
13:32 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 pretty easily
13:32 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 even by a electronics-tard like me
16:55 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex norbert79: I have the 122-key keyboard in front of me right now
16:56 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 chronomex: I hate you :)
16:56 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex :D
16:56 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Original IBM?
16:56 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex why?
16:56 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 or the Unicomp one
16:56 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex unicomp
16:56 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 I see
16:56 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex usb
16:57 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Those were used for accessing 5250 and 3270 terminals back in the days
16:57 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex yes
16:57 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex it's a strange layout
16:57 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 strange, but it was meant for Mainframe terminals
16:57 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 but as being former IBM employee and Mainframe admin
16:57 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex right
16:57 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 I wish for such :)
16:58 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 I wonder how well it would work with x3270 or IBM Personal Communicator
16:58 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 or with c3270
16:58 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 including special keys
16:59 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 chronomex: Do you use all the keys?
17:04 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex not very often
17:04 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 but it's cool having F20, isn't it? :D
17:05 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex yup
17:05 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 If it would have been, I would have mapped the login keys to F20 and not to Ctrl-Alt-Del... You wish to login? Get a proper keyboard
17:05 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 if it would have been me
17:05 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex unfortunately most of the extended keys are mapped to key combos, not individual keycodes
17:06 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 Oh, I see
17:06 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 not sure really how PA1 PA2 buttons were actually mapped
17:07 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 I never touched a real 122 keyboard in front of a real 3270 terminal :(
17:07 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 had to do things always remote
18:57 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I just shoved most of the slackware isos on IA
19:33 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 http://ripplescam.org/
19:33 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 cc norbert79, omf_, and chronomex
19:33 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I suspect you may find this interesting
20:09 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 joepie91: Thx, checking
20:13 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 joepie91: Hehhe, small reference to a known coin system? ;-)
22:27 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 norbert79: hmm? :P
22:37 ๐Ÿ”— * SmileyG looks in
22:38 ๐Ÿ”— * BlueMax shaves Smiley
22:39 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG interesting attack
22:43 ๐Ÿ”— BlueMax I usually throw people out windows
22:44 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG yeah I've noticed.
22:44 ๐Ÿ”— BlueMax unfortunately for people with such big internet cocks that's impossible here
22:44 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG Anyway bed time for me :<
22:48 ๐Ÿ”— BlueMax damn I shaved all your fur, now whatcha gonna do

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