[00:00] looks like http://lowendtalk.com/ is going to need a panic save [00:00] when it comes back up [00:00] account deletions (and probably associated posts) are planned [00:00] it seems [00:04] erp [00:04] joepie91: you moderate anonnews.com? [00:04] or .whatever [00:04] .org [00:04] yes [00:04] ok [00:05] actually, I own it :p [00:05] why? [00:06] no reason [00:23] ok :P [00:23] chronomex; have you followed todays internet drama? [00:23] also cc norbert79 omf_ [00:23] zpanel made themselves go boom [00:23] and so did lowendbox/lowendtalk/colocrossing [00:23] zpanel: http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/1ee0eg/zpanel_support_team_calls_forum_user_fucken/ [00:24] leb/let/cc: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1266477 [00:27] joepie91: I have not. [00:27] it is most amusing [00:33] hey SketchCow how's the PIX torrent coming [00:34] chronomex: http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/app-developer-calls-critic-fcken-little-know-it-all-site-goes-down/ [00:39] 47891.6 / 384077.7 MB Rate: 71.0 / 88.5 KB Uploaded: 21150.5 MB [12%] 45d 6:39 [ R: 0.44] [00:39] PIXPD [00:43] :/ [00:43] SketchCow: goo do hear your getting the TOSEC PIX collection [00:43] *good to [00:45] anyways i'm grabing the video of the pat & stu show for today [00:46] maybe tommorow also [00:46] yeah I saw it on Pleasuredome and thought "Jason's gonna want this" [00:52] joepie91: it's a shame the folks at zpanel weren't more responsive to you [00:52] The Ars article seemed pretty good [00:52] dashcloud: it's a recurring team-wide issue, sadly [00:52] they try to ignore it until they can't anymore [02:49] Bought 50 CEDs over the weekend. I'm mainly after the extremely rare ones such as the Service Alignment VideoDiscs give to technicians and the beach resort VideoDiscs given to travel agents. I'll eventually dump/rip them to my PC and upload to IA. [02:51] http://www.cedmagic.com/title-database/ced-titles-select.html [02:55] arkhive: thats good [02:55] i mirroed cedmagic.com a few months ago [02:56] arkhive: cool. [03:01] i'm doing a full mirror of tvdawn.com [03:01] it has not been update since 2007 [03:10] godane: thanks. I was wondering about the health of CEDmagic website. God the classifieds are just filled with spam. [03:13] proof of the backup: https://archive.org/details/www.cedmagic.com-20130323 [03:14] i also just got a backup of tvdawn.com [03:14] it was about 47mb [03:25] The Ars article felt like a spin piece [03:42] omf_: what article [04:00] mmm [04:00] 50DKP MINUS [04:03] man. I still think the phonovision clips are kinda creepy [04:04] particularly the ventriloquist dummy ones [04:05] if anyone else is in texas...stay safe [04:10] oh shi [04:16] what's happening in texas? [04:17] Tornado [04:17] http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?lat=32.72152&lon=-97.05601&zoom=10&type=lightmap&date=2013-05-16&time=01%3A00&units=english&tl.play=0&tl.spd=2&viewportstart=now-3619&viewportend=now-19&groupSevere=1&groupHurricane=1&groupFire=1&groupCamsPhotos=1&groupRealEstate=1&extremes=0&fault=0&femaflood=0&fire=0&firewfas=0&fissures=0&fronts=0&hurrevac=0&hur=0&lightning=0&livesurge=0&mm=0&ndfd=0&rad=1&rad.num=1&rad.spd=25&rad.opa=70&rad.type=00Q&rad.type [04:21] I've not been keeping up. how is the discferrit doing? [04:21] or do I build around my kryo? [05:24] arkhive, this article http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/app-developer-calls-critic-fcken-little-know-it-all-site-goes-down/ [05:48] So I had a business meeting for dinner about a new job. I am tentatively hopeful. [06:39] I hope zpanel dies [06:39] This reminds me of the gnome developer's shitty attitude like a day ago [07:06] gnome's developer? [07:15] https://plus.google.com/100013123247538791993/posts/2W2onvw3Ly5 [07:31] oh jesus, just in time to have g+'s entire ui changed [07:34] I never really knew what it looked like. This is like the 3rd article I ever read on there. I normally just ignore it [07:35] github has kinda fucked up parts of their ui [07:35] it is not as easy to jump to your repo list [07:35] inverting the logo is just weird [07:44] joepie91: As you copied me at 2 am while I was asleep, I am taking a look right now... Ironically webhostingtalk is on the company blacklist where I work... Coincidence?: ) [07:44] there are screenshots of threads on reddit [07:46] joepie91: No fucking way... No way... Really? :) [07:46] omf_: Aye, hehhe, someone finally payed attention and had the balls... They asked for proof, now they have their proof :) [07:47] I was recommending getting it registered as a CVE and then the whole security community would piss on their head [07:47] Awe, come on, these guys were just asking for it, I really envy your patience, as I would have acted faster... I mean it's like stepping in front of a moving truck, which travels 100 MpH [07:47] Ignoring a CVE is a cardinal sin [07:52] this is just great [07:52] ZPanel can shut down business [07:53] noone will trust them ever again [07:53] Oh yeah the people are already dropping accounts and talking about it on WHT [07:56] Just added a personal comment to the reddit article too [07:58] Forbidden [07:58] ZPanel website: [07:58] You don't have permission to access /announcement.php on this server. [07:58] Hahahaha [07:58] they even are bad at just rerouting the main site to a temporary page by stating: Technical difficulties [07:59] Noo, they show, that they just removed reading rights from the whole engine [07:59] We be rooted!!! [07:59] they are making things worse with every step :D [07:59] It is double the fun, this following the meltdown on facebook [08:00] that reminds me I got screenshots of that [08:02] cool, share it.. Would be worth collecting all and creating an article called: a shame of development [08:03] I am going to repost that shit to their facebook page [08:03] Lets see how they like being reminded of how ignorant they acted [08:06] I think having themselves hacked is enough :)) [08:06] but yeah, why not [08:06] they called joepie91 a "fuckin know it all" [08:06] :) [08:06] so yeah, do so [08:31] hehhe, zpanel website got apache test page [08:31] smells like rm -rf :)) [08:33] if they had a brain they would have switched the config to a blank vhost [08:33] but these people do not sound that smart. You see the chance of hacking into my Linux box versus your shit software is not even a discussion. [08:34] I am security paranoid. Firewall, rootkit detection, SELinux policies enabled, tripwire, etc... [08:34] versus a fucking php application [08:34] The programming language itself does not even have a complete test suite [08:35] Bahaha, they be so stupid [08:35] omf_: I try to find balance in life, too much software on security is sometimes too much too... You still need to analyze the data too [08:35] or anywhere near an acceptable coverage profile [08:42] So joepie91, hats off, you did well, and they failed bad [08:53] (â¯Â°â¡Â°)--ï¸»â¦â¤â - - - [08:54] (â¾â£â¾)â [08:55] |Ì²Ì²Ì²Í¡Í¡Í¡ Ì²â«Ì²Í¡ Ì²Ì²Ì²Í¡Í¡ÏÌ²Ì²Í¡Í¡ Ì²Ì²Í¡â«Ì²Ì²Í¡Í¡ Ì²|Ì¡Ì¡Ì¡ Ì¡ Ì´Ì¡Ä±Ì´Ì¡Ì¡ Ì¡ÍlÌ¡ Ì´Ì¡Ä±Ì´Ì´Ì¡ Ì¡lÌ¡*Ì¡Ì¡ Ì´Ì¡Ä±Ì´Ì´Ì¡ Ì¡Ì¡Í¡|Ì²Ì²Ì²Í¡Í¡Í¡ Ì²â«Ì²Í¡ Ì²Ì²Ì²Í¡Í¡ÏÌ²Ì²Í¡Í¡ Ì²Ì²Í¡â«Ì²Ì²Í¡Í¡ | [08:56] neat one [08:56] \/[__]-[__]\ [08:57] (ââ _â )--ï¸»â¦â¤â - - - [08:57] â»ââ»ï¸µ \(Â°â¡Â°)/ ï¸µ â»ââ» [08:57] -â¤â_(ââ)_ââ¤- - - - \o/ \o/ \o/ [08:57] wtf was that o_O [08:57] (â¯Â°â¡Â°)--ï¸»â¦â¤â - - - [08:57] Miussing one or two symbols :/ [08:57] I just told the plot to The Expendables in emoticons BITCHES! [08:58] I plan on directors cut at a later date [08:58] And I just read about Ocean Marketing [08:58] Hahahaha [08:58] SmileyG: http://i.imgur.com/zwi3KeK.png [08:58] I think they have found their match [08:59] let me screenshot it [08:59] my fonts look good [08:59] Mine is using DOSEGA.ttf and regular Windows putty and it looks surprisngly ok [09:00] let me doa screenshot too [09:02] http://norbert79.uk.to/users/norbert79/screenshot.png [09:03] eeew [09:03] what's wrong? :) [09:03] make sure to view this at full res [09:04] there are missing fonts in that [09:04] check it [09:04] http://i.imgur.com/hoAfjQ8.png [09:04] Sure, but I have limited selection of fonts available [09:04] No access to regular Linux desktop either [09:04] I am using all free fonts, you can get those for windows too [09:05] I mean getting them installed [09:05] oh [09:05] I am working in a AD enviroment [09:05] with limited authorization [09:05] Emoticons just feel like old school asci art [09:06] I could break it, and it ahs it's flaws, but I don't wish to be a matter of becoming a target :) [09:06] when have you seen some really good emoji [09:06] ASCII art or ANSI art? :) [09:06] not the same [09:06] ansi [09:06] Acid vs ICE [09:06] a friend of mine, who also owns a BBS still does art in ANSI [09:06] Then tell him he is fucking cool [09:07] pay his BBS a visit and tell yourself :)) telnet://fatcatsbbs.com [09:07] or use http [09:07] it has a HTTP layer too [09:07] use regular windows telnet or this client: [09:07] http://bbsdev.net/syncterm [09:07] I am going to connect to it with Perl [09:07] that's ANSI compatible [09:07] fuck yeah [09:08] norbert79: those boxes are missing bits XD [09:08] SmileyG: Yeah... :) [09:09] âªã½( âoâ)äºº(â-â )v âª [09:09] two missing [09:09] SmileyG: Partially to be blamed on the typeface I am using, but hey, I just love the old DOS look [09:09] perfect for me [09:09] äºº [09:09] yeah, works [09:09] norbert79: indeed. [09:10] â²Â´*ã.âÂ¨Â¯`*â²ãâã*ãÂ¨Â¯`*â² [09:10] 2 missing [09:10] Â¨Â¯ [09:10] these [09:10] see boxes only [09:10] wtf i'm trtying different fonts [09:10] everyhting is broken other than monospace D: [09:11] You can paste that into a online webfont tester and see whats what [09:12] yeah, I mean the spacing is broken [09:12] SmileyG: http://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com/ [09:12] I should get a screenshot of whath appens on other fonts for lols [09:12] I think it might be a terminal bug where if i restart the terminal it maybe normal again. [09:13] Not that bothered tho. [09:13] Shower time! [09:14] http://www.guido-muehlwitz.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/ansi-art.png [09:15] Yep :) [09:15] Eventually I am going to get around to my old floppies [09:15] omf_: http://www.blup-bbs.de/ - Check out the last article about the renovation of the BBS menu layout [09:15] this german BBS still works through Phone ONLY [09:16] wow, those still exist? [09:16] yet art@fatcatsbbs.com is active [09:16] Oh yeah [09:16] there are a lot [09:16] I read one language. Bad English [09:17] BlueMax: Synchronet, the active BBS engine has a list of active BBS-es running Synchronet, and many are through modem too [09:17] I tried to get a BBS running once but I had a pretty bad time of it :| [09:17] BlueMax: Of course the majority are modem+telnet or telnet only [09:17] google translation time [09:17] BlueMax: Synchronet is damn easy [09:17] well I tried it but I just couldn't connect to it :| [09:17] BlueMax: Not easy to understand how it works first, but you can get the hang out of it fast [09:18] that is soooo good [09:18] BlueMax: Well, you need to define the ports and services to be opened within a file and you also need to open the ports on your firewall and router [09:18] BlueMax: Synchronet comes with tons of services in default, even Gopher! [09:19] BlueMax: And for connecting: http://bbsdev.net/syncterm [09:19] they got a working archie/ [09:19] floodgap has a Veronica, a working Veronica :) [09:19] Sadly University of Minnesota shut down their own gopher server [09:19] FUck I loved that shit. I used the shit out of gopher, wais, veronica, archie [09:19] they had files everywhere [09:19] I am still addicted to these [09:20] "No resource at that location" [09:20] usenet [09:20] have a gopher on my own server and on telehack.tk too, need to get them updated a bit :) [09:20] and gophernicus is still actively developed [09:20] (Gopher server) [09:20] we need to bring back .plan [09:22] Let me blow your mind a bit more: http://gopherproxy.meulie.net - and - http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw [09:22] Gopher proxies [09:22] so retro computing has it's charm still [09:22] and many are active [09:24] âââ âââ âââ âââ â âââ âââ âââ âââ [09:24] âââ âââ âââ âââ â âââ âââ âââ âââ [09:24] âââ âââ âââ âââ â âââ âââ âââ âââ [09:25] That is way harder than it looks [09:26] can't see anything... let me use notepad [09:26] You would be surprised at some of the shit missing from fonts. [09:26] Ok, now I see it :) [09:26] lol [09:27] Yet I hate Lucidia Console for my terminal :( [09:27] I was a DOS guy, I just love the DOS font :) [09:28] Steam has an ASCII art community [09:29] ââ©â£âââââ [09:29] âââ¦âââ¦ââ [09:29] âââ©â©â©â©ââ [09:29] lol [09:29] that should be all dos characters [09:30] Yeah, weird thing is: it is affected by the fact I use UTF-8 encoding [09:30] somehow the way how Windows handles such sucks [09:30] as the same font works better in Linux terminals [09:30] yeah I have that issue [09:30] in putty it'll be screwed [09:30] yet on my normal terminals it's fine [09:31] same [09:31] changed something, let me see [09:31] âââ¦âââ¦ââ [09:31] ââ©â£âââââ [09:31] âââ©â©â©â©ââ [09:31] nope, still blocks [09:31] =Looks fine here norbert79 so it's just the windows rendering screwing up [09:31] [10:29:24] < omf_> ââ©â£âââââ [09:31] [10:29:24] < omf_> âââ¦âââ¦ââ [09:31] [10:29:24] < omf_> âââ©â©â©â©ââ [09:31] yeah [09:32] (-(-_(-_-)_-)-) [09:32] still blocks, doesn't matter, I am getting used to this... hmm, let me see fixedsys [09:32] :D [09:32] wooo got my nick back. [09:32] (Â¯`'â¢.Â¸//(*_*)\\Â¸.â¢'Â´Â¯) [09:32] no, regular fixedsys sucks too [09:32] btw omf_ screenshotting? [09:33] I'm off for 3 weeks... [09:33] ÎµÑÐ· [09:33] Hahahah \o/ [09:33] * BlueMax is lost [09:33] I need a few test ones to run [09:33] * Smiley tuts [09:33] * BlueMax shaves Smiley [09:34] Lucidia Console shows everything fine, but it's soooo ugly :( [09:34] norbert79: D: [09:34] ffs rotavault is STILL going :O [09:34] Û©ÛÛ©Û©ÛÛ©à®Û©ÛÛ©à®Û©à¹à¹Û©à¹à¹Û© [09:34] -rw-r--r-- 1 tim.bowers games 36G May 16 10:34 ./rotavault.ign.com-2013-04-19.warc [09:35] my first grab was 7Gb [09:35] omf_: only 2 of them worked D: [09:35] the two/three eyes [09:35] Â¯Â¯Ì¿Ì¿Â¯Ì¿Ì¿'Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿'Ì¿Ì¿'Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿'Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿)ÍÌ¿Ì¿)Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿ 'Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿Ì¿ÌµÍÌ¿Ì¿=(â¢ÌªÌâÌ)=o/ÌµÍÌ¿Ì¿/'Ì¿Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿Ì¿ [09:36] A running sheep, jumping over a fence [09:36] `/O\* `\O/* `/O\* `\O/* `/O\* `\O/* `-O-* || [09:36] lol [09:36] google "jgz" omf_ [09:36] It never gets old [09:36] ASCII art creator [09:36] and a female one [09:37] sorr, "jgs" [09:37] aaaww yeah bitches -----> http://www.geocities.com/spunk1111/me.htm [09:37] Yep :) [09:37] that's her [09:38] you grabbed it? [09:38] ,--""""-., [09:38] .'` ', [09:38] / | [09:38] __,'(,-'/ `\ _. / [09:38] | _ / [09:38] .=="=| '-. | [09:38] .'===,=|-. | / [09:38] /===\==\| \ \ _;' | [09:38] |====\==\ '.___,u' \__/ [09:38] |===.##,=\ [09:38] |==/####\='-.__ [09:39] \#|#####|`/^|_))._________________ [09:39] #######/`| |_.-'""""""=' ] [09:39] #####/\/ /__,________;------.---' [09:39] jgs `###' |_/ V V [09:39] yeah [09:39] a whole gallery [09:39] http://www.asciiworld.com/+-joan_stark_jgs-+.html [09:39] good job. [09:39] * Smiley wibbles [09:39] poult and newamerica still going also [09:39] :/ [09:40] and httrack for 1up/ugo [09:40] tho they seem to be massively cross linked so i have no idea whats gonna come out the otherside. [09:41] -rw-r--r-- 1 tim.bowers games 12G May 16 10:40 ./pouet/pouet.net_06052013.warc [09:42] TOTAL SIZE (kb): 178607817.07 [09:43] for newamerica. [09:49] I made this ramen just right [09:53] âäºäºäºï¼ãï¼¾Ïï¼¾ï¼äºâ [09:54] ï¼ ^_^ï¼oèªèªoï¼^_^ ï¼ [09:55] (ï¿£ã¼ï¿£) [09:56] (âï¾ã®ï¾)â Smiley â(ï¾ã®ï¾â) [09:56] errrr [09:56] :/ [10:32] back [10:32] pouet... A nice place... [10:32] Indeed [10:38] btw jgs's website would be worth saving [11:23] I was recommending getting it registered as a CVE and then the whole security community would piss on their head [11:23] this seems to have had roughly the same effect [11:23] and a CVE is supposedly registered for it now [11:23] oh, and omf_, norbert79, zpanel decided to dig their own grave further [11:24] by joining in on the /r/netsec thread [11:24] joepie91: No waaaay, seriously? [11:24] Direct link please [11:24] sec [11:24] http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/1ee0eg/zpanel_support_team_calls_forum_user_fucken/c9zn5vt [11:24] there you go [11:24] I tell ya, Ocean Marketing... [11:24] worse lol [11:25] Meh, so far they are even :) [11:25] and basically all of /r/netsec is now actively shitting on them [11:25] lol [11:25] ok, worse then :) [11:25] Ocean Marketing at least begged at the end [11:25] http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/12/28 [11:27] ok, let's read [11:28] Oooh, that [11:28] [â][deleted] -54 points 9 hours ago [11:28] :) [11:30] You see they didn't only dug their own graves, but they shit into that hole deep before laying down inside [11:30] haha, yes [11:32] "I'm not a programmer so I really have no idea what anyone is talking about.I don't care if this costs me my job, I'm still going to support ZPanel no matter what. " [11:33] Best [11:33] Line [11:33] Ever [11:33] "I will keep making these holes into the bottom of the ship, no matter what, as fresh air is important!" [11:34] This truly deserves an article, seriously [11:34] Megafacepalm-megatimesshootintofoot-fail [11:35] "If Joe (whatshisface) had read my message carefully, then he would have tried my server not the command center of an Open Source project. Because that's a really shitty thing to do." - Why does this remind me of the "Don't taze me bro!" line? [11:36] It's like saying "be gentle" in prison to a 8 feet tall guy [11:36] Someone should make Mike aware, from penny-arcade :)) [11:36] I think I will do it :)) [11:43] haha [11:45] norbert79: his ignorance is astounding [11:45] Amazing indeed [11:45] I live in a country, where stupidity is being part of every day life [11:45] but this tops everything [11:46] same for most people here, I think [11:46] and indeed [11:47] But you see, if I wish to be phylosophical: The guy is from New Zeland... It might be because they are already a bit seperated from the world, they sometimes forget, that the world doesn't turn like how NZ works, despite they do a lot of great things [11:47] One of my favourite sci-fi movie is also coming from there [11:47] The silent Earth (1985) [11:47] http://www.hackersnewsbulletin.com/2013/05/associated-press-proudly-supports.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HackersNewsBulletin+(Hackers+News+Bulletin) [11:47] ouch? [11:48] No wonder... [11:48] that's a minimum after what the government has done [11:49] AP will step on some toes from now on [11:50] jesus what's with all the people at the door today [11:51] this is like the 4th time the doorbell rings in a 2 hour timespan [11:51] Must be your friends from New Zeland [11:53] Damn I am glad I have experienced this... Finally I can live through such an event almost in real time, and not just read about it later :) [12:04] joepie91: Entry sent out, needs time to get approved [12:04] Will appear under: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussions [12:08] joepie91: I had that yesterday, and house phone too [12:08] fact I was being referred at the time for pysicatric assessments might have something to do with it, but if I wasn't already mad, it's enough to drive someone crazy [17:43] https://twitter.com/robotkid/status/334725482794860545 -> http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLookingGlassVault/videos [17:48] great quote here http://www.lockss.org/about/ [17:51] i would have to actually take a moment and read instead of scan that to understand [20:27] i had to grab the pat and stu show again today [20:28] the mp3 was release but there was delay echoing in it [20:28] its only going to be the 512x288 version [20:52] Yesterday one of our support staff decided to use vulgar and aggressive language which greatly offended a community member. For this I personally and on behalf of the ZPanelCP Project would like to apologise. This member of staff will not be participating in the ZPanelCP team anymore. [20:52] cc omf_, norbert79, chronomex [20:52] http://forums.zpanelcp.com/showthread.php?27606-ZPanelCP-Server-Has-Not-Been-Compromised [20:54] still denying things [20:54] even if it's the case [20:54] lets assume these statements are true [20:54] even if it's the case [20:54] still the damage has been done [20:54] with long-term effects [20:54]