[00:38] http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/timbuktu-libraries-in-exile - help preserve the exiled manuscripts of the Library of Timbuktu until they can return home [01:04] so, I really love the day Google announces the Summer of Code students- it's so awesome seeing all projects that are being funded [01:47] maybe they can pitch in $5000 for Reader [01:49] when's Reader going down again? I really need to move off it [01:57] July 1 [01:57] bleh. [01:57] remember to upload your opml especially if you have obscure or deleted blogs [01:58] nah just basic gaming and tech blogs [01:59] I just wish RSSOwl synced with something other than Google Reader [02:02] http://blog.feedly.com/2013/03/14/google-reader/ might have a compatible API [03:05] so, for folks who like DRM-free games, and FLAC soundtracks, the latest Humble Indie Bundle offers both [03:21] already beat dear esther on hib8 [03:28] thomas is alone is really awesome [04:22] Oh, SO much uploading today [04:25] How much [04:25] Just lots of magazines, lots of jazz [04:26] sounds like a bad masturbation porno [04:50] hahahahaha [04:50] BlueMax: I love you [04:51] What would your boyfriend say?! D: [04:52] We're open and I'm poly [04:52] So... [04:52] ;P [04:53] lol [06:24] SketchCow: i have ngc magazine [06:25] the guy from oldgamemags.com has been uploading them [06:32] some one should download this: www.youtube.com/user/AusRadioHistorian [07:50] so this is weird [07:50] there is a video file of streaming gameplay of gt5 [07:50] but its over 3 and half hours long [09:06] .. [09:07] * omf_ .. Smiley [09:09] cat typing [09:09] he's spazzing out as i try to trim his fur [09:12] Thats what she said [09:26] silly Smiley pretending he's a cat [09:26] shave him! [09:26] * BlueMax shaves Smiley [09:27] YES!!! [10:49] ~:> ~:> ~:> [11:12] o_O [11:38] * BlueMax shaves Smiley again [11:38] :O [11:40] also smiley your quote has been replaced [11:40] how do you feel being yesterday's news [11:41] As long as I was archived... [11:52] <@Smiley> I really really need to punch my warrior [11:52] <@Smiley> I really really need to punch my warrior [11:52] <@Smiley> I really really need to punch my warrior [11:53] :D [11:54] 👓 [11:54] oooh even I do not have that character installed [11:55] 😏 [11:55] that one worked for me [11:58] not for me :o [13:10] It is one of the new unicode smilies [13:50] I must say Lauren Drain, former Westborrow Baptist Church member is indeed looking hot [14:35] goddamnit. [14:35] one of my packages is stuck with customs. [14:35] and they'll probably want monies [14:35] joepie91: My ball-copter came [14:35] underscor: that's exactly what's stuck with customs for me... [14:35] probably because it's in a box [14:36] It literally is the *best* "battery powered copter/flyer toy" I've ever played with [14:36] and I've gotten/used a lot [14:36] wait, no sarcasm? [14:36] None. [14:36] huh, interesting [14:36] I would've expected it to be decent [14:36] but not to be "the best" [14:36] I'm very pleased with the control ability [14:36] :D [14:36] and battery life is fantastic [14:36] and it charges over USB! [14:36] haha [14:37] 30 minute USB charge gives me a solid 15 minutes of play time [14:37] >.> [14:37] Probably ~8 minutes of solid fly time [14:37] so, my costs are probably going to be... 13 euro + 5 euro = 18 euro [14:37] underscor: odd, it was rated 5 minutes [14:37] oh well :D [14:37] haha [14:37] "battery life is... smashing! *crashes into object* " [14:37] Like most things direct from china [14:37] lol [14:37] seriously though [14:37] it's all really a crapshoot [14:37] 18 euro custom costs... [14:37] blargh [14:37] ugh [14:37] yeah, that sucks [14:37] that's literally as much as I paid for the damn copter itself [14:38] it's not a fortune, but still :| [14:38] I've never had to pay customs costs [14:38] me neither [14:38] until now [14:38] What's the reasoning behind that being a thing? [14:38] well [14:38] it consists of two things [14:38] (in european countries) [14:38] Welcome to the EU [14:38] america doesn't assess it until you get up into hundreds of dollars I think [14:38] taxes (because above 22 euro import) [14:38] and costs for the mail company [14:38] (doing the paperwork) [14:38] We like import tariffs [14:38] also [14:38] the fucked up thing is [14:38] Ah, I see [14:38] the main thing is countries like EU and canada have national sales tax which US doesn't [14:38] import costs are above 22 euro [14:39] I just converted the cost of my order [14:39] ffs [14:39] it's 24 euro [14:39] DFJustin: Aha [14:39] so if customs isn't assessed that puts local shops at a disadvantage because you have to pay tax at them and not on online imports [14:39] Like VAT? [14:39] I'm lucky I'm Swedish - our customs are waaay understaffed and incompetent.. so a lot of china goods slip by [14:39] yes [14:39] :D [14:39] underscor: indeed. VAT and import tariff [14:39] ersi: Ooh, I didn't know you were there [14:39] so far it has always slipped by [14:39] but not this time [14:39] :( [14:39] That's high on my list of international destinations once I have money for leisure travel [14:40] yeah here in canada it's a crapshoot, they don't have the resources to process everything that comes in so a lot of the time you just get off free [14:40] You should visit summer time, it's fantastic [14:40] Winter is a bit long though [14:40] anyone willing to donate 18 euro? lol [14:40] (half kidding) [14:40] anyway, time to fill in boring forms I suppose [14:41] I love how locale-diverse we are [14:41] Summer is pretty idyllic.. going out in the country side by the sea, various traditional buildings in traditionally painted red [14:41] (Canada, US, NL, SE) [14:41] Don't worry m'am, we're from the Internet [14:41] ersi: But I want snow :c [14:41] also chinese companies happily lie their asses off and mark everything as a gift with a value below the customs threshhold [14:41] :c [14:41] DFJustin: hahaha [14:41] DFJustin: Indeed ^_^ [14:41] yep [14:41] they rock [14:42] they know they get more business that way [14:42] dad's boss bought an audioquest diamond 3" HDMI cable [14:42] DFJustin: hahahaha yes [14:42] for $390 USD [14:42] lasers? [14:42] I've had packages of like 50 euro, and it was marked "4.40$" [14:43] I got him one from DealExtreme for $1.97 [14:43] and he gave me $100 of the savings [14:43] lol [14:43] from returning the AudioQuest cable [14:43] underscor: bahahaha [14:43] #winning [14:43] hahaha [14:43] the downside is for a lot of carriers if you make an insurance claim they will only pay you the declared value [14:43] who the fuck buys a 390$ HDMI cable [14:43] Someone who goes to best buy with a blank check [14:43] and says "hook me up with the best" [14:43] ersi: people that buy into marketing [14:43] basically [14:43] ahaha worst buy [14:43] But, but, but [14:44] I want my digital ones and zeros caressed by platinum crusted goldplated children's tears [14:44] otherwise I'll lose picture quality! [14:44] .... wtf, when did "email address" become a mandatory field on customs declaration forms? [14:44] did the bureaucracy advance to the 21st century while I wasn't looking? [14:45] lol [14:45] joepie91: unpossible [14:45] http://www.stereophile.com/content/audioquest%E2%80%99s-diamond-usb [14:45] underscor: consumer programme on TV here did a test with HDMI cables... from the cheapest at a Dutch discount store chain (3 euro or so) to most expensive (Monster etc) [14:45] guess which one won [14:46] (with a very very narrow margin) [14:46] Monster [14:46] lolno [14:46] :D [14:46] the 3 euro one [14:46] "A key feature of the Diamond USB, which is held in the photo by Audioquest’s Andrew Kissinger, is the Audioquest DBS (dielectric bias system). Invented and patented by Richard Vandersteen, with the cable version co-patented by Vandersteen and Audioquest’s Bill Low, the DBS creates an electrostatic field that saturates and polarizes the molecules of the insulation to minimize energy storage in the dielectric. The result is claimed to be much [14:46] greater dynamic range, lower background noise, and reduced phase distortion." [14:46] What [14:46] * joepie91 always gets his cables at that store... [14:46] WHAT [14:46] dynamic range in a USB cable? [14:46] underscor: "claimed to be" [14:46] reduced phase distortion in my 1.5m USB cable [14:46] all you need to know [14:46] jfdkljfkdlgjklfdgjf [14:47] as long as they prefix it with 'claimed to be' [14:47] they can put anything there they want [14:47] lol [14:47] monster cables are overpriced. however, for high-bandwidth applications the really cheap cables may not work so well [14:47] "In a very short demo, Silberman compared music through a stock USB cable that came with his printer to music through the Diamond. Using the new Arcam R asynchronous USB DAC, Arcam AVR 600 receiver, AQ Niagra interconnects ($1600/1m pair), AQ Redwood speaker cables ($2300/3ft pair), and Vandersteen 2Ce 30th anniversary edition speakers, the difference in transparency and color was striking." [14:47] cables in the $15-30 range are usually good enough though [14:47] indeed, but most often it's fine [14:48] How the fuck is the audio quality changing based on the USB cable [14:48] oh and cable length [14:48] Baljem: the 3 euro cables here are the proper bandwidth [14:48] unless they're piping analog audio through it [14:48] I'm talking about HDMI here [14:48] er [14:48] balrog [14:48] not USB. USB either works or doesn't. :P [14:48] (my statement wasn't directed at balrog) [14:48] * Smiley looks at balrog and facepalms [14:48] I'm aware of the bandwidth issue, some of the other cheaper cables (including the 2 euro ones at the same store) don't have enough bandwidth for certain things [14:48] Just at this stupid press release I'm reading [14:48] including the set top boxes of a commonly used Dutch ISP [14:49] and with that I mean they actually practically do not work [14:49] The bandwidth issue is due to them using something like the 1.1 spec for HDMI instead of 1.3 [14:49] not some hypothetical limitation [14:49] I'm stating that really cheap cables may be made poorly and have poor signal integrity [14:49] balrog: you do realize that it's a digital signal, right? [14:49] with error correction, if I'm not mistaken [14:49] yes, but it's not error-corrected [14:50] " The maximum pixel clock rate for HDMI 1.0 was 165 MHz, which was sufficient to support 1080p and WUXGA (1920×1200) at 60 Hz. HDMI 1.3 increased that to 340 MHz, which allows for higher resolution (such as WQXGA, 2560×1600) across a single digital link" [14:50] And there it is [14:50] and even if it was, error correction can only reconstruct a limited quantity of bits [14:50] it's still "HDMI" if it's only 1.1 [14:50] http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=6271817 [14:50] I'm just saying that build quality matters [14:50] at least for HDMI [14:50] balrog: yes, if the cable snaps in two because you looked at it funny [14:50] balrog: yes, but build quality is unrelated to price [14:50] for things like USB, poor cables will fall apart [14:51] as evidenced by things from buyincoins almost always having excellent build quality, and the more expensive alternatives falling apart pretty quickly [14:51] if such a disconnect is possible, then apparently there's no causation, even if there may seem to be correlation [14:51] build quality is related to price, to some extent, but it's also related to other things. monster cables probably are worth in the $15-25 range, not 10x that as they charge [14:51] .. [14:51] no, it's not. [14:51] * Smiley goes away [14:51] I shown you the issue already. [14:52] 1.0 vs 1.3 standards [14:52] that's one of the issues [14:52] * underscor popcorns [14:52] Both are "HDMI" but both won't fix the issues. [14:52] balrog: in many industries, it has been shown time after time that the relationship between quality and price is nothing more than an imaginary relationship that happens to hold true in specific situations [14:52] I have seen no evidence of that being any different in the cable industry [14:52] yes, if you buy cheap cables at best buy, they will probably be worse than the expensive cables at the same best buy [14:53] does that mean a relationship between price and build quality? no, it doesn't [14:53] it just means that best buy probably wants to sell you the expensive cables if you can afford it [14:53] http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AQMUSBDIA&gclid=CM7zvYPHu7cCFQdk7AodqDwAgQ [14:53] and thereby it is a strategically smart move to make the cheaper cables less well-built [14:53] * Smiley ponders wtf [14:53] at the same time, you can buy a far cheaper cable at $random_other_possibly_online_store [14:53] and have identical or better build quality [14:54] than the expensive best buy cable [14:54] ru all on crack? [14:54] while you can find a far, far cheaper cable at some direct-from-china store, that falls apart when you look at it wrong. [14:54] balrog: are you just intentionally not reading what I am saying, or...? [14:54] tbh, I've never had any issues with chinese hdmi cables falling apart [14:54] maybe 1.1 spec [14:54] I've had issues with chinese usb type cables failing at the connectors [14:54] but not falling apart [14:55] yeah [14:55] that's much more prevalent [14:55] have you considered that perhaps you have been buying the wrong cables? [14:55] * underscor usually buys all his cables from monoprice anyway [14:55] rather than using it as a reason to say 'cheap cables are bad'? [14:55] usually haven't had issues with monoprice, but those are a bit more expensive than the chinese ones (say $6 instead of $2) [14:55] I have several cheap USB cables, some of them from buyincoins, some of them from local discount store [14:55] typically 1 - 1.50 euro in price [14:55] for long cables [14:56] none of them have exhibited failure, not even under prolonged stress [14:56] of _course_ Chinese stores sell crap as well [14:56] which is why you have to take a good look around before you buy something [14:56] so that you stay clear of the crap [14:56] again, entirely unrelated to price [15:05] * underscor gambles :c [15:05] * Smiley fires the lasers [15:05] Noooo [15:05] But I'm making money! [15:05] x3 [15:17] oh, what [15:17] the RC heli is out of stock nows [15:17] lol [15:17] now * [15:18] underscor: it's a longstanding internet joke that audiophiles are full of shit and will pay for anything if you write enough technobabble [15:18] well, apparently not just a joke... [15:19] well the joke is on the people paying for it, I guarantee you whoever is writing that knows it's bs [15:19] there are some great amazon joke reviews on audiophile cabling too [15:24] http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/product-reviews/B000I1X6PM [15:27] http://consumerist.com/2008/03/03/do-coat-hangers-sound-as-good-monster-cables/ [15:35] I accidentally dropped one end of my Denon cable into a glass of Tuscan whole milk I was drinking. Later when I finished my milk (yeah, I still drank it; should I not have done that?), my right arm (lost in an accident in 1987) spontaneously grew back. [15:35] hahahaha [15:35] inter-product review memes [15:43] :D [17:18] http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/1f9yrn/hostbill_v460_vulnerabilities_db_dump_code_exec/ [17:18] cc norbert79 omf_ etc [17:18] it's irresponsible developer time again! [17:20] douchebag developer rather [18:02] $75..... wonder ho wmany people have said that, are now sitting in their db. [19:37] joepie91: You are always fun :) [19:37] joepie91: let's see :) [19:37] * joepie91 is unsure how to interpret that :P [19:37] also, http://purecss.io/ [19:38] joepie91: Second link is cool... reading the first [19:39] i'm starting to upload ngc magazine [19:39] purecss == Yahoo making their own Bootstrap-ish thing [19:39] and it seems to solve the #1 issue with Bootstrap [19:39] being that every site looks the same [19:39] thinking SketchCow may steal my thunder [19:40] joepie91: For the first: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL [19:40] haha [19:40] joepie91: To be fair, I really tried.. let's see their whois entry :) [19:41] KBKP Software S.C., PL | kbkp@hushmail.com | KBKP Software Krzysztof Bieszczad Krzysztof Pajak Spolka Cywilna [19:41] This might be a start :))) [19:41] lol [19:41] yeah, nice tr [19:41] try * [19:41] whois email is dead [19:41] RFC emails are dead [19:41] :P [19:41] really? [19:41] You kiddin right? [19:41] yes [19:42] friend of mine has been trying to reach them [19:42] for 2 weeks [19:42] hahahaahahahahahahahaaaaa [19:42] (he published the article) [19:42] so yeah [19:42] draw your conclusions [19:42] :p [19:42] oh god [19:42] I also find the use of a hushmail a bit shady [19:43] the whole thing is a bit shady [19:43] What about the money? [19:44] I mean the receiver should have some contact [19:44] Shady Business LTD [19:45] Yeah, Terms of Use has nothing on contacting them [19:45] yeah, it's a typical eastern european way of doing things [19:45] :p [19:45] norbert79: I have no idea, you want to order a $999 license to find out? [19:45] register a company to an address [19:45] but have nothing there [19:45] ignore every contact [19:45] but keep collecting the money [19:45] heh [19:45] and at some point, fill bankrupcy [19:46] you can see how that worked out for Liberty Reserve... [19:46] and leave with the money [19:46] it still works within the post communistic countries [19:46] unfortunately [19:46] (seriously, have you ever tried to actually _use_ LR? it's the buggiest piece of shit in the payment processing world) [19:46] https://hostbillapp.com/clientarea/index.php?/root&action=passreminder - wut? ROOT? [19:47] action=resetpassword [19:47] try it :D [19:48] or configure [19:50] http://wiki.hostbillapp.com/index.php?title=Main_Page - Come on, they didn't even try hard [19:50] http://wiki.hostbillapp.com/index.php?title=Special:Version [19:50] come ON! [19:51] now it's official, they are just a shady company [19:52] lol [19:54] uploaded: http://archive.org/details/NGC-060-2001-11 [20:04] Uploaded: http://archive.org/details/NGC-061-2001-12 [20:05] heh. Mediawiki 1.21.0 is out... I love this section: "Experimental IBM DB2 support was removed due to lack of interest and maintainership." [20:05] You wonder? :) [20:05] Haha [20:06] I'd like to see Persona support.. Maybe I'll take a look at adding that [20:06] I mean, there's constantly issues with MediaWiki - at least you won't get your password raped if MW get's raped then :) [20:06] but seriously, Mediawiki can byte my back... 1.20.6 just got out on the 21.5.2013, now 1.21.1 is out since 25.5.2013 [20:08] * ersi shrugs at norbert79's date format [20:08] 2013-05-21 and 2013-05-25 .. Just to stay ISO [20:09] ironically we Hungarians use 2013.05.21. and such [20:09] or 2013. május 25. [20:09] better? :) [20:10] Would that be, hungarian notation? [20:10] * ersi giggles [20:11] Sorry, I'll see myself out [20:12] ersi: http://bit.ly/V7qkpx [20:12] damn copy function won't work all the time [20:12] for the link shorten [20:12] Hah [20:12] It's also funny how photobucket continues to be the slowest imageshare in world history [20:13] perpetual slowness :D [20:13] http://us3.na.apcdn.com/full/103156.gif <- I lolled, really hard [20:16] hahah [20:16] tug tug tug tug [20:57] ersi: you're forgetting imageshack [20:57] with tinypic as a close second [22:17] so anyone want to get a man in the moon coin?: http://1791.shop.musictoday.com/Product.aspx?cp=50107_60407&pc=BXAM176 [22:40] that timbuktu thing is on reddit now http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1faiis/we_are_abdel_kader_and_stephanie_diakit%C3%A9_and_we/ [23:34] so good news [23:34] i think i got all non-sd videos of g4 now