#archiveteam-bs 2013-07-02,Tue

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00:11 🔗 joepie91 wait, gamefaqs is down?
00:12 🔗 joepie91 also, SketchCow/underscor/someone else IA-wise... is it possible to get not only a collection created, but also have every of my uploads with a specific tag assigned to that collection?
00:12 🔗 joepie91 without having to go through them and doing it manually
00:12 🔗 joepie91 for each
00:14 🔗 joepie91 ... what the hell? I just cleaned the toilet, found a comic book behind the cupboard, and put it on my pile
00:14 🔗 joepie91 then I realized that I already _had_ another copy of the same comic book on my pile
00:14 🔗 joepie91 ... when did they multiply? ._.
00:14 🔗 winr4r gamefaqs is up for me
00:14 🔗 winr4r first thing i checked when useretail mentioned it
00:16 🔗 xmc Yes it can be done
00:16 🔗 xmc joepie91: yes
00:16 🔗 joepie91 alright, how? :P
00:17 🔗 SketchCow joepie91: Yes
00:18 🔗 SketchCow You tell me a collection, I create the collection and assign your account to it.
00:18 🔗 SketchCow Then, you can name it as the collection you can put things on.
00:18 🔗 joepie91 alright, but I was refering primarily to quite a few uploads that I have already done
00:18 🔗 joepie91 :P
00:18 🔗 joepie91 existing uploads that are like in opensource_audio or something right now
00:21 🔗 joepie91 also, I'd like the collection "AfterHoursDJs.org Livesets"
00:21 🔗 SketchCow Already done, I can do quicker than you.
00:22 🔗 SketchCow how about afterhoursdj_livesets
00:22 🔗 SketchCow Sound good?
00:22 🔗 joepie91 that's fine for me
00:22 🔗 joepie91 also, heh
00:22 🔗 joepie91 hm
00:22 🔗 joepie91 afterhoursdjs_livesets
00:22 🔗 joepie91 plural :P
00:22 🔗 SketchCow Good job.
00:22 🔗 SketchCow You said it was fine.
00:23 🔗 SketchCow I created it.
00:23 🔗 SketchCow Then you gave me something different.
00:23 🔗 SketchCow "Want a coke?"
00:23 🔗 SketchCow "yes."
00:23 🔗 SketchCow "But make it a lemonade"
00:23 🔗 joepie91 haha, sorry
00:23 🔗 joepie91 just leave it as is then :P
00:23 🔗 SketchCow <looks up, halfway poured coke>
00:23 🔗 SketchCow I am very, very fast.
00:23 🔗 SketchCow It's now changed.
00:24 🔗 SketchCow http://archive.org/details/afterhoursdjs_livesets
00:24 🔗 joepie91 :D
00:24 🔗 joepie91 thanks
00:24 🔗 SketchCow Now, your internetarchive account name.
00:24 🔗 joepie91 that would be joepie91
00:24 🔗 joepie91 (I'm so predictable :( )
00:25 🔗 SketchCow No. There's an e-mail
00:25 🔗 SketchCow Just give me the username
00:25 🔗 SketchCow I can get the rest.
00:26 🔗 joepie91 email would be admin@cryto.net :P
00:26 🔗 joepie91 and password needs keepass-ing, brb
00:27 🔗 SketchCow Don't need password.
00:27 🔗 SketchCow I an admin on archive.org, remember.
00:27 🔗 SketchCow Just needed the facts.
00:28 🔗 SketchCow 408 mixes, not bad.
00:28 🔗 joepie91 I know, just saying that I need to change the password to a keepass password
00:28 🔗 joepie91 :P
00:28 🔗 joepie91 I was still using my 'I don't care' password, and I do care
00:28 🔗 joepie91 but that's changed now
00:28 🔗 joepie91 and 408 is just what;s on there now
00:28 🔗 joepie91 more will be coming later
00:28 🔗 joepie91 (I think I have about 100-200 ready that just need some metadata processing)
00:29 🔗 joepie91 plus a bunch on old CD-ROMs that I have to recover still
00:29 🔗 SketchCow Boom, you're an admin of afterhoursdjs_livesets
00:29 🔗 SketchCow In another 10 minutes or so, http://archive.org/details/afterhoursdjs_livesets will be packed full of your sets.
00:30 🔗 SketchCow For example, http://archive.org/details/JustinStyles-Live_Hubris_Sessions_with_Justin_Sytles-05Apr2010
00:30 🔗 joepie91 why thank you :)
00:35 🔗 arrith1 gamefaqs would just be a really good preemptive archiving thing
00:35 🔗 SketchCow Agreed
00:35 🔗 godane i wish i had full admin access
00:35 🔗 godane would like to make twit and revision3 collections
00:36 🔗 SketchCow joepie91: Obviously you should go into the collections main page and write up what exactly this is.
00:36 🔗 joepie91 I will in a moment
00:36 🔗 SketchCow Just letting you know because I will stop thinking about this in another.... 10 seconds.
00:36 🔗 joepie91 I can probably just copypaste the text from http://ahdjs.archive.cryto.net/ :P
00:36 🔗 * joepie91 counts down
00:36 🔗 joepie91 :D
00:37 🔗 SketchCow counts down about what?
00:37 🔗 joepie91 idk
00:42 🔗 joepie91 http://i.imgur.com/xUMQ9Tl.jpg
00:50 🔗 joepie91 uhm, SketchCow, might be me... but where's the edit collection button? I don't see any
00:56 🔗 SketchCow Try http://archive.org/editxml.php?type=collection&edit_item=afterhoursdjs_livesets
00:56 🔗 SketchCow If that doesn't work, let me verify your adminning went through
00:58 🔗 SketchCow Did it work?
01:20 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow, sorry, I was afk
01:20 🔗 joepie91 I get a form, so I guess it works
01:20 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow, is it suppposed to show you in the 'uploader' field?
01:20 🔗 SketchCow ]Yes
01:20 🔗 SketchCow I made it
01:21 🔗 joepie91 ok
01:27 🔗 joepie91 okay, what the hell - I can access that URL from my laptop, but not from my desktop
01:27 🔗 joepie91 despite both being logged in to the exact same account?
01:28 🔗 joepie91 cc SketchCow
01:28 🔗 SketchCow No reason for that.
01:29 🔗 joepie91 also, when saving the form, it tells me
01:29 🔗 joepie91 "You are not allowed to submit items into collection(s): audio"
01:29 🔗 SketchCow Huh.
01:29 🔗 SketchCow Well, then e-mail me,jscott@archive.org, with the settings.
01:29 🔗 SketchCow I'll shove them in, we'll move ahead
01:30 🔗 joepie91 alright
01:32 🔗 joepie91 sent
01:32 🔗 arrith1 joepie91: YOU'RE SO AWESOME
01:32 🔗 arrith1 ty for the afterhours thing
01:35 🔗 joepie91 why thank you, SketchCow
01:35 🔗 joepie91 arrith1: you familiar with AHDJs?
01:35 🔗 joepie91 or just got to know about it and like it? :P
01:36 🔗 arrith1 joepie91: only in like the last year or so i stumbled upon that site. i've listened to di.fm since like 07 or something, but yeah, constant quality on ah
01:37 🔗 joepie91 indeed :)
01:37 🔗 arrith1 lot of familiar names is another one. just from various songs from di i'm familiar with DJs on AH
01:37 🔗 joepie91 I never understood why they didn't have a public archive
01:37 🔗 joepie91 oh
01:37 🔗 joepie91 yeah, I don't know much about that
01:37 🔗 joepie91 I've been listening to AH for...
01:37 🔗 joepie91 probably at least 8-9 years?
01:37 🔗 joepie91 so that's the first place where I heard of many of their DJs
01:37 🔗 joepie91 did see some pop up on di.fm-related pages at times, though
01:38 🔗 joepie91 do have to say that I'm sad about the decreasing listener count on AHDJs (and resulting decreasing liveset count)... :(
01:38 🔗 arrith1 ah wow, i suppose it makes sense that DI wouldn't mention AH due to rivalry or something. i sorta assumed AH formed to be a commercial-free DI haha
01:38 🔗 arrith1 aw
01:38 🔗 joepie91 I think AHDJs might actually be older than DI
01:38 🔗 joepie91 not much, but still
01:38 🔗 arrith1 well i'm a convert, don't know how many of us there are
01:38 🔗 joepie91 also, I will brb
01:38 🔗 joepie91 probably about 30 mins
01:38 🔗 joepie91 (important brb :P)
01:38 🔗 arrith1 that's need
01:38 🔗 arrith1 neat*
02:15 🔗 joepie91 arrith: back
02:18 🔗 godane so i need some help
02:18 🔗 godane i need to remove newline and replace it with '; '
02:18 🔗 godane with the single quotes
02:18 🔗 godane *without
02:19 🔗 joepie91 godane: in what context?
02:19 🔗 joepie91 terminal, editor, ?
02:20 🔗 godane trying to grab keywords in theblaze tv xml
02:20 🔗 godane web.gbtv.com/gen/multimedia/detail/3/5/5/18164355.xml
02:21 🔗 joepie91 I am not entirely sure what that has to do with newlines/semicolons?
02:21 🔗 joepie91 anyway, shouldn't be too hard to extract keywords
02:21 🔗 joepie91 sec
02:21 🔗 godane try to put then in my keyword varable
02:22 🔗 godane so i can add them as key words when i start uploading it
02:23 🔗 joepie91 godane, would you have any use for a (terminal-runnable) script that downloads the XML, parses it, then outputs a semicolon-delimited list of all the keywords?
02:23 🔗 joepie91 I could probably whip that up in a few minutes
02:25 🔗 arrith1 i sometimes do a hacky "replace '>' with newline", then pipe it to a grep, then use sed to clean up the url
02:25 🔗 godane i have that code
02:25 🔗 arrith1 sed i think at some point had issues with newlines but should generally work, i do like tr though
02:26 🔗 godane here is my code: cat web.gbtv.com/gen/multimedia/detail/3/5/5/18164355.xml | sed 's/></>\n</g' | grep -A50 "=\"18164355\"" | grep keyword | grep 'displayName' | sed 's|.*displayName=\"||g' | sed 's|"/>||g'
02:27 🔗 joepie91 okay, so what bit are you missing?
02:27 🔗 joepie91 oh, is it outputting each keyword on a new line?
02:28 🔗 godane yes
02:34 🔗 joepie91 godane:
02:34 🔗 joepie91 echo "http://web.gbtv.com/gen/multimedia/detail/3/5/5/18164355.xml" | python -c 'import urllib2, sys; from lxml import etree; print ";".join(keyword.get("value") for keyword in etree.XML(urllib2.urlopen(sys.stdin.read()).read().strip()).iterfind(".//keyword"))'
02:34 🔗 joepie91 (you'll need the lxml library installed)
02:34 🔗 joepie91 (for python)
02:35 🔗 godane i was hoping for sed way of doing it
02:35 🔗 joepie91 [occupy@edge13 ~]$ echo "http://web.gbtv.com/gen/multimedia/detail/3/5/5/18164355.xml" | python -c 'import urllib2, sys; from lxml import etree; print ";".join(keyword.get("value") for keyword in etree.XML(urllib2.urlopen(sys.stdin.read()).read().strip()).iterfind(".//keyword"))'
02:35 🔗 joepie91 glenn_beck;news_report;show;shareable;MEDIA_ON;highlight;GBTV_SHORT_FEATURE;embeddable;preview;feature_segment
02:35 🔗 joepie91 I have no idea how to do it with sed
02:35 🔗 joepie91 and I'm not sure if it's even possible because afaik sed is line based
02:35 🔗 joepie91 perhaps with xargs
02:35 🔗 joepie91 xargs echo or something
02:40 🔗 godane i done it: cat web.gbtv.com/gen/multimedia/detail/3/5/5/18164355.xml | sed 's/></>\n</g' | grep -A50 "=\"18164355\"" | grep keyword | grep 'displayName' | sed 's|.*displayName=\"||g' | sed 's|"/>||g' | tr '\n' ';' | sed 's|;|; |g'
02:41 🔗 arrith1 haha, full python
02:42 🔗 arrith1 yeah looks good. i like seeing tr used
02:59 🔗 godane some one uploaded the making of TMNT Behind The Shells
02:59 🔗 godane on myspleen
02:59 🔗 godane i grabing it
03:07 🔗 arrith1 godane: that's neat. getting as much that myspleen would be okay with on archive.org would be nice
03:07 🔗 arrith1 also that classicnick one
03:07 🔗 arrith1 since a lot of it is kind of classic cartoons almost
03:08 🔗 godane i have nick arcade
05:33 🔗 arrith1 godane: ..all of it?
05:33 🔗 arrith1 oh the show
05:33 🔗 arrith1 that's good
05:33 🔗 arrith1 thought you meant the content on that private torrent site
07:16 🔗 ivan` https://www.youtube.com/user/danooct1/videos
10:13 🔗 GLaDOS .
11:35 🔗 ersi It's time for data mining! http://imgur.com/gallery/uUPYBu4
11:36 🔗 norbert79 ersi: Lol, thanks, made me burst out in laugh :)
11:42 🔗 ersi ^w^)-b
14:18 🔗 godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/cdrom-maximum-cd-2006-09
14:20 🔗 * Smiley looks in
14:56 🔗 godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/cdrom-maximum-cd-2006-10
16:05 🔗 omf_ I am uploading old versions of RedHat before it became RHEL to IA, finally got isos ready
16:17 🔗 joepie91 arrith, arrith1, you there?
16:18 🔗 joepie91 anyway, when you are, have a careful look at the afterhoursdjs.org collection - there are a few livesets from around... 2002?
16:18 🔗 joepie91 they are in a very different style, and you might like them
16:20 🔗 omf_ The Proton-M launch ended in an explosion. I cannot say I am surprised since the 2010 launch crashed into the ocean
16:28 🔗 omf_ Is this because of lowest cost bids?
16:46 🔗 winr4r might be, might not, but rocket launch failures are not uncommon for unmanned rockets
16:47 🔗 winr4r generally a bad idea to speculate on it a few hours after it happened
16:57 🔗 omf_ I don't remember much news about the after action reports for the 2010 event
16:58 🔗 omf_ It feels good to get more of this data uploaded to IA, it has been a wonderful journey ;{
16:58 🔗 omf_ ;{P
17:01 🔗 winr4r omf_: i'm sure the reports are out there if you want them
17:03 🔗 joepie91 hmm, it appears that I can't edit the keywords for my item
17:03 🔗 joepie91 wanted to add 'archiveteam' keyword :(
17:03 🔗 joepie91 anyway, uploaded: https://archive.org/details/JoystiqMassivelyWarc
17:05 🔗 SketchCow And added to the right place
17:05 🔗 SketchCow Is there a fear massively joystiq is going down?
17:05 🔗 * winr4r salutes SketchCow
17:08 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: I believe there was a few weeks ago
17:08 🔗 joepie91 rather, joystiq as a whole
17:08 🔗 joepie91 because AOL was killing off a bunch of things, iirc
17:08 🔗 joepie91 I should have two more WARCs of different parts of joystiq that were killed off due to running out of RAM
17:09 🔗 joepie91 I'll have a look at uploading those as well
17:10 🔗 SketchCow joepie91: That DJ collection is off the hook
17:10 🔗 SketchCow Turn on any of them and it's hours of crazy background music
17:10 🔗 joepie91 exactly :D
17:10 🔗 joepie91 virtually all of it (save for justin styles, he talks a lot) makes for very good work music
17:11 🔗 joepie91 favourites of mine are DJ Mash-D and DJ Neuron in particular, because they play a lot of somewhat older styles
17:11 🔗 joepie91 think ~10 years ago
17:59 🔗 winr4r quick poll: "a heroic effort" or "an heroic effort"
17:59 🔗 winr4r i pronounce it as the latter, the first looks like it might be correct
17:59 🔗 omf_ winr4r, the first one. Using an only works for Acronyms and words starting with a vowel
18:00 🔗 omf_ a egg is wrong, an egg is correct
18:00 🔗 winr4r omf_: right, but is the referent of a/an "effort" or "heroic"
18:01 🔗 omf_ it is still the first one, A heroic effort
18:01 🔗 winr4r okay
18:01 🔗 winr4r :)
18:01 🔗 omf_ a can only refer to the word that follows it, there are no levels of indirection that I know of for that
18:01 🔗 winr4r kay
18:01 🔗 omf_ and that is why English grammar is hard
18:23 🔗 joepie91 winr4r: the idea is that it's "an" when the first h is silent
18:24 🔗 joepie91 (or the first other letter, for that matter)
18:25 🔗 joepie91 so basically, if the word, when _spoken_ (not written!) starts with a vowel
18:26 🔗 winr4r hm
18:26 🔗 winr4r in mine it would be silent
18:27 🔗 Smiley heroic... i speak that with the h :/
18:27 🔗 Smiley he-row-ic
18:28 🔗 winr4r Smiley: most of the time i would too, but not after "an"
18:29 🔗 Smiley that makes me emphasie it more :/
18:37 🔗 winr4r accents are fun!
19:48 🔗 ivan` http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2012/03/21/monk-complaints-manuscripts/
22:39 🔗 joepie91 hmm... SketchCow, have all my other WARCs been added to the archiveteam collection already?
22:40 🔗 joepie91 ie http://archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3A%22admin%40cryto.net%22%20warc
22:42 🔗 joepie91 also https://archive.org/details/CryptoAnarchyWarc, which appears not to turn up in search results
22:52 🔗 SketchCow I'll take a look.
23:12 🔗 arrith1 joepie91: hiya
23:12 🔗 arrith1 joepie91: ah alright, thanks for the recommendation
23:19 🔗 arrith1 winr4r, omf_, joepie91: both "a historic" and "an historic" are used, "an" mostly by crazy newscasters, but i kind of get a sense that people are becoming more sane and trying to stick with "a". my personal style vote it with "a".
23:19 🔗 arrith1 i googled about this not too long ago and a bunch of people saying they're great at grammar say both is ok. but they're wrong.
23:20 🔗 winr4r arrith1: mmk :)
23:21 🔗 arrith1 zer muzt be ORDAH
23:23 🔗 godane so i got more maximum pc cds today
23:26 🔗 joepie91 <arrith1>i googled about this not too long ago and a bunch of people saying they're great at grammar say both is ok. but they're wrong.
23:26 🔗 joepie91 they're on the internet, so they're right!
23:26 🔗 joepie91 :P
23:30 🔗 arrith1 joepie91: they keep saying they are at least :P
23:35 🔗 arrith1 also like this period-and-parentheses thing, where for some crazy reason back in the day they started putting periods inside parentheses when it really didn't make sense. but at least programmers these days tend to put periods on the outside, since it makes more sense
23:35 🔗 arrith1 dunno about in english depts
23:39 🔗 joepie91 hm
23:39 🔗 joepie91 I only put the period behind a sentence *inside* the parentheses when it's a stand-alone sentence
23:40 🔗 joepie91 So like this (the period will be outside the parentheses).
23:40 🔗 joepie91 But let's say I do something like this. (Then the period will be inside the parentheses.)
23:41 🔗 joepie91 I have had no complaints wrt the readability of my articles, so I suspect people are okay with those forms :)

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