| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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00:46
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joepie91 |
has anyone thought to ask the NSA to contribute to IA? :P |
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00:47
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ersi |
Well, at least they *know* about IA |
|
00:49
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BlueMax |
they didn't really need to use the anal probe... |
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00:58
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|
BlueMax |
is Archive.org having problems updating collections right now? |
|
00:58
🔗
|
BlueMax |
or is underscor breaking it again |
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00:58
🔗
|
ersi |
yes |
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00:58
🔗
|
ersi |
(no, I have no idea - try.. again) |
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01:00
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BlueMax |
(tried 3 times) |
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01:00
🔗
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BlueMax |
(<[brackets are cool]>) |
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01:04
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winr4r |
good morning! |
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01:05
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BlueMax |
hi, useless windows program |
|
01:06
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winr4r |
fuck man you know you got on the computer too soon when you're donning sunglasses so that you can see the monitor |
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01:11
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ersi |
deal with it |
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01:15
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BlueMax |
winr4r, don't use Flux? |
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01:17
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winr4r |
dude it's too early to figure out what you mean |
|
01:20
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BlueMax |
http://justgetflux.com/ |
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01:27
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winr4r |
BlueMax: oh that's cute |
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01:31
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|
BlueMax |
dude it really fucking helps |
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01:31
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|
BlueMax |
can't live without it now |
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01:32
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winr4r |
i don't like the idea of shifting the colour balance though |
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01:32
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winr4r |
that would drive me insane |
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01:33
🔗
|
BlueMax |
the Windows version has the option to shut it off for an hour |
|
01:33
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|
BlueMax |
I've completely gotten used to it though |
|
01:38
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|
GLaDOS |
It's true, you do get used to it. |
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01:51
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|
omf_ |
~65gb of linux uploaded so far today. It feels like I am finally making a dent in this project |
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01:52
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xmc |
that's a lot of linux |
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01:56
🔗
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omf_ |
Mandriva releases are averaging 14gb a pop |
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01:56
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xmc |
that'll do it |
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01:57
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omf_ |
Let me tell you all the people involved in releases except slackware are retarded |
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01:57
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|
omf_ |
Slackware is the only distro whose releases are consistent. Sometimes you get cd isos, sometimes dvds too and sometimes not |
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01:57
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|
omf_ |
alpha support this release but skip the next two |
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01:58
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omf_ |
Gnome & kde live cds, sure but only x86_64 cause i686 has no use apparently |
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01:58
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|
omf_ |
The point being release consistency does not exist |
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01:59
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|
ersi |
Only bad thing with Slackware, is that it's Slackware. |
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01:59
🔗
|
ersi |
:-) |
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01:59
🔗
|
omf_ |
I started on slackware, I understand |
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02:00
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|
ersi |
I'm not sure wether Slackware or Red Hat was my first experience |
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04:01
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|
ivan` |
winr4r: I used to do sunglasses all the time but then started using redshift to shift to 3500K and reduce brightness |
|
04:02
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|
winr4r |
ivan`: i only needed them for a few minutes while my eyes adjusted :) |
|
04:02
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|
winr4r |
ivan`: a lot of what i do depends on having accurate colour, anyway |
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04:16
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|
ivan` |
going from my 3500K to unadjusted is like staring at bright snow |
|
04:17
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|
ivan` |
aka unhappy eyeballs |
|
05:06
🔗
|
closure |
my only problem with redshift is I run it at 1000k at night, and so anything red has zero contrast ;) |
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05:11
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|
GLaDOS |
I take mine one step further. |
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05:12
🔗
|
GLaDOS |
Around my room, I have about 20m of LED lights that can emit pure red. |
|
05:12
🔗
|
GLaDOS |
That + F.lux = whats an eyerape |
|
05:13
🔗
|
winr4r |
hi GLaDOS |
|
05:13
🔗
|
GLaDOS |
hi |
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05:17
🔗
|
closure |
omf_: does slackware still have the A, AP, X, etc floppies? |
|
05:21
🔗
|
omf_ |
not sure when they stopped doing that |
|
05:21
🔗
|
omf_ |
they did it for a long time though for backwards support |
|
05:24
🔗
|
winr4r |
omf_: so i'm going to be finishing the FAQ this weekend, most likely, if you don't mind me hijacking your project |
|
05:27
🔗
|
omf_ |
were you the one giving me feedback about it before? |
|
05:27
🔗
|
winr4r |
yes |
|
05:34
🔗
|
omf_ |
Were you the one who though the FAQ and a beginners guide should be the same thing? |
|
05:35
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|
winr4r |
i have much of this weekend free, and i think that's the biggest outstanding item on the wiki at the moment |
|
05:35
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|
winr4r |
i did say something along those lines, the FAQ is the first place anyone looks, but i see the need for a separate beginner's guide too |
|
05:38
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|
Sue |
i have a bunch of shovelware cds incoming |
|
05:39
🔗
|
winr4r |
Sue: *salutes* |
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05:39
🔗
|
omf_ |
FAQs are fundamentally flawed on many levels because people look at them wrong. FAQs are not about learning new things but being a reference for things you "should" (and I mean that loosely) know. A more accurate description of a set of FAQs should actually be a cheat sheet. Something you pull out when you need a quick answer to something common. Beginner's guides are designed to teach the audience about a subject matter to the p |
|
05:39
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|
omf_ |
oint of getting the person involved. While there might be some cross over between the subject matter of the two the target audience and approach are different |
|
05:43
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|
winr4r |
i'm not seeing the distinction between "learning new things" vs teaching people stuff they should know |
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05:44
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|
omf_ |
Also just a piece of advice I picked up when I went to college again and racked up four years of study in English and writing. You cannot force writing, writing is about creativity more than anything. This comic has a few panels that do a great job of explaining it http://theoatmeal.com/comics/making_things This is not to discourage you but to point that just finishing by setting aside time is a recipe for disappointing yourself. |
|
05:44
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|
omf_ |
Every major doc I did on the wiki has been incremental |
|
05:44
🔗
|
winr4r |
who said i was forcing it? |
|
05:47
🔗
|
winr4r |
anyway, i did say "if you don't mind me hijacking your project", which you do, so i'll do other shit! |
|
05:52
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|
omf_ |
"leanring new things" vs teaching people stuff they tend to know is a point I should expand upon. When I say "stuff people should know" I am referring to common knowledge accrued overtime as part of ArchiveTeam. So how parts of the warrior work for example is something people pick up over time. The reason why you do not shove all that into a beginner document is it is just overwhelming. People balk at pages of written material wh |
|
05:52
🔗
|
omf_ |
en they initially want an inkling. In the writing and content industries we call this progressive disclosure. Here is a short summary http://www.marccarson.com/articles/writing-for-the-web-are-you-using-progressive-disclosure |
|
05:54
🔗
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winr4r |
i don't recall arguing that stuff like how the warrior works should be shoved into a beginner document, or into the FAQ, or anything else |
|
05:57
🔗
|
omf_ |
If you look at the FAQs I already worked on I do talk about the warrior because that is something that comes up with each warrior project. Do I think that should be in a beginning document? No. Hence having two separate documents that serve different audiences |
|
05:58
🔗
|
winr4r |
sticking with "i'll do other shit" |
|
06:50
🔗
|
godane |
hey everyone |
|
06:50
🔗
|
godane |
i'm up again |
|
06:51
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Wow, I completely missed this ludicrous "debate" in this channel. |
|
06:53
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I've had a small pile of archiving failures over here, trying to determine the next big ones to do as well as killing mail backlog. |
|
06:53
🔗
|
SketchCow |
That's how MY weekend's going. |
|
06:54
🔗
|
winr4r |
godane: thanks for the warning! |
|
06:54
🔗
|
winr4r |
sorry about that SketchCow |
|
06:55
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It happens. |
|
06:55
🔗
|
SketchCow |
The good news is I'm starting to get ahead on getting some stuff out of my house. |
|
06:55
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I wanted my cube half-empty by end of year. |
|
06:55
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Was moving slowly on that. |
|
06:56
🔗
|
winr4r |
as in the information cube? |
|
06:56
🔗
|
SketchCow |
yes. |
|
06:56
🔗
|
godane |
i'm just searching ebay and someone is giving all the 2003 demo disk of maximum pc |
|
06:56
🔗
|
winr4r |
all going on to long-term homes, i assume |
|
06:56
🔗
|
godane |
with magazines |
|
06:57
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Yeah, primarily Strong museum right now. |
|
06:57
🔗
|
winr4r |
good stuff :) |
|
06:57
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I've got 45 e-mail messages and every one of them is a nightmare of commitment and effort. |
|
06:58
🔗
|
winr4r |
hm :< |
|
07:02
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I just had one, I had it since April. |
|
07:02
🔗
|
SketchCow |
At an event I spoke at, a women stood up and asked me a series of crazy intense statements, with questions in there. |
|
07:03
🔗
|
SketchCow |
There was no time, I told her to write me. |
|
07:03
🔗
|
SketchCow |
She did, it's been sitting here since. |
|
07:03
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I finally sat down, read it today. |
|
07:03
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It's basically a massive essay and as far as I can determine she wants me to read it and comment. |
|
07:03
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Archived it. |
|
07:03
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Nope. |
|
07:03
🔗
|
winr4r |
heh |
|
07:04
🔗
|
winr4r |
yeah at some point you have to stop being all "eh i'll deal with that when i have time" and go to "i surrender, i will never find time for that" |
|
07:04
🔗
|
SketchCow |
In this case, it's a really really big essay. |
|
07:05
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I finally loaded MESS into my laptop. |
|
07:05
🔗
|
SketchCow |
What a bunch of fun. |
|
07:05
🔗
|
winr4r |
as in longer than five 160-character quips? TL;DR |
|
07:06
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Oh, no, I definitely answer more than that. |
|
07:06
🔗
|
winr4r |
i know :) |
|
07:06
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Some of these are action oriented too. |
|
07:06
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Some of them are "write my dissertation" |
|
07:06
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I should mention in one window, I'm definitely pumping up hundreds of manga issues. |
|
07:07
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Another window has netflix. |
|
07:10
🔗
|
winr4r |
guessing the "write my dissertation" ones go into the "not dealing with this ever" folder |
|
07:15
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Interesting - so there's some pack I added called the MESS "Software" Pack. |
|
07:15
🔗
|
DFJustin |
I saw that |
|
07:16
🔗
|
DFJustin |
SO much history in there |
|
07:16
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It appears to be.... a collection of software. |
|
07:16
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I know, it's just really weird. |
|
07:16
🔗
|
SketchCow |
MESSUI seems to like it and depend on it. |
|
07:16
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Or, expects it. |
|
07:16
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It's 44gb. |
|
07:16
🔗
|
SketchCow |
So I'm adding it to my laptop, but it's kind of weird how this thing is. |
|
07:17
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Because we know there's a lot more software than that. |
|
07:17
🔗
|
DFJustin |
it doesn't seem to include the cd-rom based systems |
|
07:17
🔗
|
DFJustin |
also some of the mess software lists are work-in-progress and only have, say, the letters A through F or something |
|
07:20
🔗
|
DFJustin |
in particular the 90s era floppy systems like pc/at, pc98, and amiga are wildly incomplete |
|
07:20
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Yeah. |
|
07:20
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It's an interesting thing. Maybe the offering on archive.org will help. |
|
07:21
🔗
|
DFJustin |
one thing that might be nice as a love note to the future would be to throw in the corresponding .xml files from mess 0.149 onto that item |
|
07:21
🔗
|
godane |
i think i need to start geting money to start buying more cds |
|
07:22
🔗
|
DFJustin |
hash/*.xml in the mess distribution (the .hsi files are something else) |
|
07:22
🔗
|
godane |
i found a guy that has some rare disks: http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=1012163&image=682678129&images=682678110,682678129,682678146&formats=0,0,0&format=0 |
|
07:22
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I think I need to buy some flippy drives. |
|
07:23
🔗
|
godane |
and pc magazine cds: http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=1012163&image=682678146&images=682678110,682678129,682678146&formats=0,0,0&format=0 |
|
07:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
The dozens of mangas I'm uploading have a common theme. |
|
07:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
They are hooorrrrrrible |
|
07:24
🔗
|
winr4r |
haha |
|
07:25
🔗
|
DFJustin |
manga is no exception to sturgeon's law |
|
07:25
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Yeah, that's a hard lesson I've learned. |
|
07:26
🔗
|
SketchCow |
For every "Love Hina" there's a thousand "Darkest Angel Hija-Ruuuuuu" |
|
07:28
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I'm about to shove.... a lot of CHDs up[ |
|
07:30
🔗
|
godane |
i contacted the guy selling this item: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=231010715413 |
|
07:30
🔗
|
winr4r |
CHD? |
|
07:30
🔗
|
godane |
i'm hoping the shipping can become alot less |
|
07:31
🔗
|
DFJustin |
CHD is the format used by the MESS and MAME projects for hard drive, CD-ROM, and other large media dumps |
|
07:31
🔗
|
winr4r |
DFJustin: oh, thanks :) |
|
07:31
🔗
|
DFJustin |
it's compressed sector-by-sector so you can do random access |
|
07:32
🔗
|
winr4r |
godane: i put 90210 as the zip code (only US zip code i know, obviously), $14.03 isn't so bad is it? |
|
07:32
🔗
|
winr4r |
DFJustin: ah :) |
|
07:32
🔗
|
DFJustin |
I'm not completely sold on it as an archive format due to the amount of hijinks with the recent version updates though |
|
07:33
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|
godane |
winr4r: its $20.54 for his shipping |
|
07:34
🔗
|
godane |
there is also something called media mail |
|
07:34
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|
godane |
i told him to look into it |
|
07:35
🔗
|
godane |
cause when shipping 3 magazines cost +$11 there is something wrong about it |
|
07:35
🔗
|
SketchCow |
34G MAME_0.149_CHDs_A-B |
|
07:35
🔗
|
SketchCow |
43G MAME_0.149_CHDs_H-N |
|
07:35
🔗
|
SketchCow |
43G MAME_0.149_CHDs_P-S |
|
07:35
🔗
|
SketchCow |
46G MAME_0.149_CHDs_C |
|
07:35
🔗
|
SketchCow |
56G MAME_0.149_CHDs_D-G |
|
07:35
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|
SketchCow |
31G MAME_0.149_CHDs_U-Z |
|
07:35
🔗
|
SketchCow |
pppaaaaaarty |
|
07:36
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|
DFJustin |
is that including laserdiscs |
|
07:37
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|
winr4r |
godane: are we looking at different things or am i confused? it says it's the 2003 run |
|
07:37
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|
SketchCow |
I'm VAGUELY sure this doesn't have the discs. |
|
07:37
🔗
|
godane |
it is the 2003 run |
|
07:37
🔗
|
godane |
i'm mostly after the disks |
|
07:37
🔗
|
godane |
also at some point jason will be getting the disk i figure |
|
07:38
🔗
|
godane |
*disks |
|
07:39
🔗
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SketchCow |
DFJustin: I'm not inclined to think that this is with the laser disks. |
|
07:39
🔗
|
DFJustin |
alas |
|
07:39
🔗
|
SketchCow |
This is stuff like Area 51 and Beachhead 2k2 |
|
07:39
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Don't worry - I'll get it all, eventually. |
|
07:39
🔗
|
DFJustin |
I'm currently uploading about 10GB of user-made 3d models, choreography, and etc. for use with MikuMikuDance |
|
07:40
🔗
|
winr4r |
awesome |
|
07:42
🔗
|
SketchCow |
root@teamarchive0:/0/ANIME# rm -rf MAME\ 0.149\ CHDs/ |
|
07:42
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|
SketchCow |
Why? Because I found I had two copies. |
|
07:42
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|
SketchCow |
That's 500gb I didn't need in there! |
|
07:42
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|
SketchCow |
The numbers are nuts. |
|
07:42
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|
winr4r |
damn |
|
07:42
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|
omf_ |
DFJustin, isn't some of that motion capture under license? I know in tv and movies the union blocks assets like that from getting reused by other projects. |
|
07:43
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|
DFJustin |
well it's all amateur stuff |
|
07:43
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|
omf_ |
no worries then |
|
07:43
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|
DFJustin |
I've heard that some of the japanese creators get butthurt about distribution but that's partly why I want to archive it all |
|
07:46
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|
godane |
now i think x-play was merging with attack of the show |
|
07:46
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|
godane |
at the end |
|
07:46
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|
DFJustin |
since the "official" distribution channel is usually a flaky "free file host" link |
|
07:47
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winr4r |
DFJustin: that's the case with a lot of communities |
|
07:47
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godane |
the current video i'm uploading has a interview with Scott Porter from Hart of Dixie on it |
|
07:48
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winr4r |
they're useful for two dudes on IRC being like "how did i get this thing from me to you" and less good if you want to see it a month later |
|
07:53
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|
DFJustin |
yeah it's kind of scary how many indie games, open source projects, etc. are using it for primary hosting |
|
07:59
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|
winr4r |
yup |
|
08:01
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|
SketchCow |
ha, this poor machine is buckling under the pain of doing 45gb zips |
|
08:01
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|
SketchCow |
TAKE IT |
|
08:05
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|
winr4r |
when sentient machines come along you're going to be one of those "hey, don't be THAT guy" guys in their history books |
|
08:07
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|
winr4r |
that or the primary character in lurid novels |
|
08:07
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|
* |
winr4r waves at mistym |
|
08:07
🔗
|
mistym |
Hey winr4r |
|
08:40
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|
antomatic |
yay MMD! :) |
|
08:57
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|
SketchCow |
TERRIBLE DOCUMENTARY |
|
08:57
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|
SketchCow |
So weak |
|
08:57
🔗
|
SketchCow |
So by the book, so dull |
|
09:05
🔗
|
winr4r |
they don't even have the excuse of having to drag it out for like an hour and a half |
|
09:05
🔗
|
winr4r |
on the other hand, i can't say i'd do better |
|
10:07
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|
godane |
SketchCow: thought you should know that i have another collection of magazines: https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22edge%20aus%20magazine%22 |
|
10:07
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|
godane |
you missed it |
|
10:11
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|
SketchCow |
DFJustin: I'm seeing FireFox go by |
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SketchCow |
So that was Laserdisc, so not clear what's going on there. |
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10:19
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godane |
dude, your getting Diggnation |
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10:20
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godane |
also the original videos up to 2008 |
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10:21
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godane |
your going to have do something like rev3-diggnation for the collection name |
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10:30
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godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/Diggnation_1 |
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11:08
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godane |
i'm going to see if i can find any of the large quicktime videos |
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11:09
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godane |
based on what i can tell there are large files from feb 2006 on |
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11:21
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godane |
fuck yes |
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11:21
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godane |
we have diggnation torrents |
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11:24
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godane |
i can now know for 100% that the files came out around 2006 |
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11:52
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winr4r |
haha, socks' latest |
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14:28
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dashcloud |
so, for scanning CD covers- if I plan to upload them to IA along with the CD itself, any special settings I should use? |
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14:33
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: in my experience, if you upload an ISO and a cover image, it'll see it as cover image automatically |
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14:33
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joepie91 |
regardless of name |
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14:33
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joepie91 |
still, cover.jpg may be a good naming convention |
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14:33
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joepie91 |
or perhaps cover-nameofthecd.jpg |
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14:33
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joepie91 |
or PNG |
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14:33
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joepie91 |
:p |
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14:34
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: http://archive.org/details/XironMP3Drivers |
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14:34
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joepie91 |
for example |
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14:34
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joepie91 |
oddly, it doesn't seem to link to the ISO |
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14:34
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joepie91 |
straight away |
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14:37
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dashcloud |
so, any special settings for the scan itself? is jpg at 300 dpi good enough? |
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14:40
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joepie91 |
I scan everything at 300DPI by default |
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14:40
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joepie91 |
I do have to say that I've generally seen better results with LED scanners than with fluorescent tube scanners |
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14:40
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joepie91 |
for part-silverish disc labels |
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14:40
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winr4r |
dashcloud: the nerds who tell you to scan to TIFF at 1 billion DPI won't tell you this, but yes, JPEG at 300 DPI probably out-resolves the resolution at which it was printed |
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14:40
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joepie91 |
I'd do PNg |
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14:40
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joepie91 |
PNG * |
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14:40
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joepie91 |
not JPg |
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14:40
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joepie91 |
JPG * |
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14:40
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joepie91 |
derp shift key |
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14:41
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dashcloud |
what kind of scanner offers PNG? |
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14:41
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joepie91 |
uh? |
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14:41
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joepie91 |
every scanner? |
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14:41
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joepie91 |
scanner just sends over lossless scan data |
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14:41
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winr4r |
dashcloud: you mean "which scanning software offers PNG" |
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14:41
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joepie91 |
whatever you use for scanning then assembles it into JPG/PNG/etc |
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14:41
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joepie91 |
I would recommend using Xsane if it runs on your platform |
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14:42
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winr4r |
joepie91: oh god, no |
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14:42
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winr4r |
no no nooooo |
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14:42
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joepie91 |
winr4r: I know that the UI is bleh |
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14:42
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winr4r |
xsane is actually the worst GUI that i have ever seen, and i am not particularly fussy |
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14:42
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joepie91 |
but the hardware/filetype/etc support is good, and I know that it doesn't do funny tricks |
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14:42
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joepie91 |
with your image data |
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14:42
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joepie91 |
(yes, HP scanning software, looking at you)( |
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14:42
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winr4r |
joepie91: it does |
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14:43
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joepie91 |
... it does not |
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14:43
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winr4r |
it sucks, i've had things where it has randomly decided to scan a different horizontal DPI than vertical DPI |
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14:43
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joepie91 |
wat |
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14:43
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winr4r |
yeah "wat" is how it is |
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14:44
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joepie91 |
that's literally the first time I've ever heard of such an issue occurring |
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14:44
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joepie91 |
:| |
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14:44
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winr4r |
only realised that when i was looking through scans to make sure they rendered right |
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14:44
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winr4r |
lost like two hours of my time with that shit |
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14:45
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dashcloud |
okay- my scanning software does support PNG- I just didn't see it at first |
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14:45
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: what are you using? |
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14:46
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dashcloud |
so, I'm going with PNG at 300 dpi |
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14:46
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joepie91 |
something vendor specific or generic scanning software? |
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14:46
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dashcloud |
the software that came with the HP scanner I've got hooked up to the living room computer |
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14:46
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joepie91 |
would not recommend using that |
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14:47
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dashcloud |
I've got no room for a scanner in my bedroom with my laptop (what I'm using to type this) |
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14:47
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joepie91 |
at least some versions of the HP scanning software do funny compression tricks that make you end up with lossy PNGs (!) |
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14:47
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joepie91 |
ie. it first converts it to Jpg or whatever |
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14:47
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joepie91 |
and then saves it as PNG |
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14:47
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winr4r |
christ |
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14:47
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joepie91 |
if you really want to use it, then be sure to inspect your scans up close afterwards |
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14:47
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joepie91 |
to see whether they are of proper quality |
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14:48
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dashcloud |
okay |
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14:48
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winr4r |
this sort of lore needs to be on the wiki somewhere |
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14:48
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joepie91 |
I'm actually not sure it's documented _anywhere_ |
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14:48
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joepie91 |
I ran across it by myself at some point |
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14:49
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joepie91 |
had a bunch of different scanners (long story) so I did some tests |
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14:49
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winr4r |
joepie91: which is why it need to be on the archive team wiki! |
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14:49
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joepie91 |
and it turned out I consistently got artifacts when using the HP software... |
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14:49
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joepie91 |
and other funniness |
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14:49
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Smiley |
so document it fucker. |
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14:49
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joepie91 |
well yes :P |
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14:49
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winr4r |
joepie91: you learned the lesson the hard way so everyone else doesn't have to! :D |
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14:49
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joepie91 |
hehe, indeed |
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14:50
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joepie91 |
but yeah, the above is the only thing I recall about it really |
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14:50
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* |
Smiley taps his foot |
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14:50
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joepie91 |
ran across something similar with... |
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14:50
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* |
joepie91 tries to remember brand |
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14:50
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joepie91 |
Lexmark? |
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14:50
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joepie91 |
not sure |
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14:50
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Smiley |
OH GOD NO |
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14:50
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winr4r |
hey tim :) |
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14:50
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* |
Smiley dives at the sound of lexmark |
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14:50
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Smiley |
hey win |
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14:50
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joepie91 |
but yeah, HP software is not the only software that does this crap |
|
14:50
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Smiley |
i am actually melting into a puddle right now |
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14:50
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joepie91 |
Smiley: yes, Lexmark is horrible |
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14:50
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joepie91 |
I know |
|
14:50
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joepie91 |
I had a bunch of lexmark stuff (freebies) |
|
14:50
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joepie91 |
didn't bother packing it |
|
14:50
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joepie91 |
when moving out |
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14:50
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Smiley |
my wife had a lexmark printer/scanner thing |
|
14:50
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Smiley |
we grew to hate it together. |
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14:51
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joepie91 |
fun exercise: try connecting a lexmark anything to a Linux box |
|
14:51
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Smiley |
hmmmmmmmm i have no clue where hers went; |
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15:00
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joepie91 |
right, anyway |
|
15:00
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joepie91 |
my grandmother died a few days ago |
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15:00
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joepie91 |
and after the cremation yesterday, we went to her house to see what would still be useful (the rest going to a thrift store) |
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15:00
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joepie91 |
(or trash) |
|
15:00
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joepie91 |
and I managed to save a bunch of CDs and a few books |
|
15:00
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joepie91 |
:P |
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15:01
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joepie91 |
so, archiving time |
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15:01
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joepie91 |
(and before you ask, yes, I'm fine, her death had been coming for the past year or so and she was aware of it and fine with it, so this particular death is relatively easy to process for me... it was just her time) |
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15:02
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joepie91 |
(hoping I didn't come off too rude there, just don't want people being concerned when not necessary) |
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15:29
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Smiley |
joepie91: sorry to hear that, |
|
15:29
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Smiley |
but it's good that your finding good ways to work with it. |
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15:29
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Smiley |
from the old new things can arise. |
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15:35
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dashcloud |
joepie91: sorry to hear about your loss, but it's good you have a bunch of items to remember her by |
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15:45
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: nah, that's not what I took the books and CDs for |
|
15:45
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joepie91 |
I have different items for that |
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15:46
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joepie91 |
some things she painted herself |
|
15:46
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joepie91 |
the books and CDs are purely for archiving purposes seeing as noone else wanted them |
|
15:46
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ersi |
I know it's of little/small comfort now, when Google Reader has shut down already - but my LiveJournal username scraper is still going strong.. Got a few hundred thousand freshly discovered usernames |
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15:47
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ersi |
\o/ |
|
16:16
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godane |
my diggnation collection: https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22rev3%22%20AND%20subject%3A%22diggnation%22&sort=-publicdate |
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16:16
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godane |
now we are getting a collection |
|
16:54
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ersi |
http://i.imgur.com/KhBBZHp.jpg2~ |
|
16:54
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ersi |
http://i.imgur.com/KhBBZHp.jpg * |
|
18:04
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Smiley |
hmmm |
|
18:04
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Smiley |
if he's flying over international waters, can the US pull the plane over? |
|
18:04
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Smiley |
(I know thats not hte correct term ;)) |
|
18:05
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ersi |
Of course they can. Either by brute force or airspace blockade |
|
18:06
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Smiley |
I mean legally :P |
|
18:06
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ersi |
Is it likely? Well, neither was before. Airspace/flyover permit blockade seems likely.. |
|
18:06
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Smiley |
They could just shoot him down., |
|
18:06
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Smiley |
Yeah but if it's international waters, how does teh US have the right to stay "sorry you can't fly here?" |
|
18:07
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ersi |
Could say "We'll escort you to US Airspace - with the suspicion of you harbouring international fugitives" |
|
18:11
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Smiley |
but why do they have any more duristrction in international airspace than anyone else? |
|
18:11
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Smiley |
It's quite easily over come if so, you have every other country flying, saying they are doing the same thing |
|
18:12
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Smiley |
"sorry, you can't take this plane, we are taking it to brazil because we believe they have international fugitives aboard" |
|
18:12
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|
Smiley |
"no, it's going to venezalia because WE believe they have international fugitives aboard..." |
|
18:12
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|
Smiley |
s/brazil/mexico; s/brazil/peru |
|
18:12
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|
Smiley |
etc etc etc. |
|
18:12
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Smiley |
Why does the US have more right? |
|
18:14
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|
ersi |
Because they claim more rights and play the game harder than many others |
|
18:16
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ersi |
If I'd be an commercial airline pilot, flying a plane with several hundered civilians - if some country would "kindly" escort me somewhere with military force, I wouldn't say "Oh, err.. well you know, this is international airspace and.. fuck you" |
|
18:16
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Smiley |
yes |
|
18:16
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|
Smiley |
I get that. |
|
18:16
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Smiley |
but if your bill gates and your feeling fesity |
|
18:17
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|
Smiley |
wait, John McAfee |
|
18:17
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|
Smiley |
maybe he can afford a private jet :D |
|
18:17
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|
Smiley |
If the US shot it down, that'd get noticed |
|
18:20
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SketchCow |
You guys really should research the history regarding civilian aircraft and military intervention. |
|
18:20
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SketchCow |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007 |
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18:20
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SketchCow |
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/24/us-britain-pakistan-jet-idUSBRE94N0HI20130524 |
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18:21
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SketchCow |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yellow_Ribbon |
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18:21
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SketchCow |
etc. |
|
18:21
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SketchCow |
Anyway, what happens is that a fighter jet (usually two) come up to a plane and go 'So, hey, pull over.' |
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18:21
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ersi |
Yeah. That's what I meant with "escort" |
|
18:22
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SketchCow |
In these cases, the pilots NEVER tell them to F off. They report to ground control what's going on, and hail out over all emergency frequencies what's going on. |
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18:22
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SketchCow |
Then they go down, to where they're directed. |
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18:22
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SketchCow |
It's no different than being detailed by police somewhere - you immediately let people know what's going in. |
|
18:22
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|
* |
ersi nods |
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18:24
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SketchCow |
"Deployment of warplanes is a standard procedure, according to defense ministry officials, when pilots using emergency codes raise the alarm. The Typhoons took off from an air base at Coningsby in Lincolnshire." |
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18:24
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SketchCow |
So anyway, yeah, when you divert a plane it's major major shit. |
|
18:24
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SketchCow |
When you divert a plane with a HEAD OF STATE on it, that's top-tier diplomatic crisis. |
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18:25
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SketchCow |
That's what made the Bolivian President diversion such a pile of crazy. |
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18:25
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ersi |
That wasn't a crispy clear divert in the sense of escorting it with fighters though |
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18:26
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SketchCow |
No. |
|
18:26
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|
ersi |
But muliple countries denying access to flight space at the same time? Suuuspiiiecious |
|
18:26
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SketchCow |
That would have been straight up act of war., |
|
18:26
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|
ersi |
Yeah |
|
18:29
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|
ersi |
Whoa, Nixon was supposed to be on KAL 007? Dang |
|
18:30
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|
ersi |
Heh, it's funny how noticable going from 1 request/second to 2-3.5 request/second does to grabbing datas |
|
18:32
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Smiley |
SketchCow: cool, will read |
|
18:32
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Smiley |
I'm not saying stuff did/didn't happen, simply asking how it works. |
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18:33
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ersi |
Well, you got a lot of bargaining powers when you have very lethal weapons and long range. |
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18:34
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Smiley |
yah |
|
18:34
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|
Smiley |
finally got my sata dock + ide dock \o/ |
|
18:34
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|
ersi |
Yay~ |
|
18:34
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Smiley |
sata drive dropped in just shows up as a device, nice and easy |
|
18:43
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joepie91 |
well |
|
18:43
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|
joepie91 |
I just submitted my first entry to the MusicBrainz database |
|
18:43
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|
joepie91 |
from scratch |
|
18:43
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|
joepie91 |
and I am currently ripping the associated disk |
|
18:43
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|
joepie91 |
:P |
|
18:48
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|
joepie91 |
for fucks sake |
|
18:48
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|
joepie91 |
newer pycdio version doesn't work with this ripping tool |
|
18:48
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|
joepie91 |
and older one won't compule |
|
18:49
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|
joepie91 |
compile * |
|
18:49
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|
joepie91 |
:( |
|
19:08
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omf_ |
Smiley, a single bay or a multi-drive bay? |
|
19:15
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Smiley |
tis a dock, not a bay (slot the drive in the top). it has 1 sata, one ide/laptop ide + loads of card ports + 2 x usb on front |
|
19:15
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Smiley |
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009WK1UY4/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
|
19:19
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DFJustin |
https://archive.org/details/mmd-tsumeawase-20121002 |
|
19:19
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|
DFJustin |
should go in diskdrives or something probably |
|
19:19
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|
DFJustin |
unfortunately the archive browser is pretty useless due to japanese filenames |
|
19:39
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omf_ |
I like how it has the integrated card reader |
|
19:39
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Smiley |
omf_: yeah, depends if i can get it working in linux tho :) |
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19:40
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omf_ |
It should just show up as a device when you plug something in |
|
19:40
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|
omf_ |
you tested it out yet? |
|
19:40
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Smiley |
yah |
|
19:40
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|
Smiley |
usb works fine, sata works fine |
|
19:41
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omf_ |
I need to get a new external dock. My current one does not support drives above 2tb |
|
19:41
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Smiley |
ewww |
|
19:41
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omf_ |
I know it is just too old |
|
19:42
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SketchCow |
I have a dock that if I plug 3tb drives into both docks, the machine bluescreens |
|
19:42
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|
Smiley |
D: |
|
19:42
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omf_ |
:/ |
|
19:43
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ersi |
SketchCow: It's a.. feature. |
|
19:43
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|
SketchCow |
"You're doing too much work today, opbviously" |
|
20:20
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ersi |
Shrug, seems to be plenty of "Save website formats". MHTML (If you can call it a format), Webarchive (Safari), SingleFile, MAFF, ARC/WARC |
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22:18
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omf_ |
So in hard drive news the carrying cases are on sale at newegg. I am going to get this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817993067 since I feel it is a reasonable sale price |
|
22:19
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ersi |
If one could hook that cabinet up via USB or something, that'd be awesome |
|
22:21
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|
omf_ |
yes it would |
|
22:37
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joepie91 |
so, annoyance of the day: http://goodui.org/ |
|
22:37
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|
joepie91 |
generic internet marketing crap, mis-packaged as "good UI advice" |
|
22:38
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|
joepie91 |
and hackernews is apparently all over it |
|
22:38
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joepie91 |
gullible.avi |
|
22:45
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ersi |
Havn't seen anything stupid so far |
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though I guess the domain should be goodux instead of ui mayhapples |
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joepie91 |
no |
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joepie91 |
the problem is worse |
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joepie91 |
and two-fold |
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1. this is not about "good UI", it's about "increasing conversions" |
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"good UI" is just a really good eyecatcher on HN and similar because it says "UI" |
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2. it's generic internet marketing rubbish |
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it's the same info found everywhere, just worded slightly differently, with the eventual goal of signing you up for a "free newsletter" |
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with listbuilding, constant sales pitches and most likely list selling as a result |
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it's literally a textbook example of an internet marketing site targeted at a particular niche |