| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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00:33
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godane |
so i made a offer of $30 for the 37 maximum pc cds |
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00:34
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|
godane |
its buy now at $45 |
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00:34
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|
godane |
thats a little to high for me |
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00:50
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dashcloud |
so, there's a possibly untouched software archive that would be nice to download and catalogue, but it needs some programming help to make it happen. AOL (the online service) has lots of libraries with early-mid 90's software in them that probably haven't been touched since then. |
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00:58
🔗
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godane |
i got the 37 Maximum pc cds set for $30 :-D |
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01:10
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SketchCow |
dashcloud: Do it |
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01:32
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GLaDOS |
In honor of robots.txt, I have set one up on a website of mine http://tropicraft.net/robots.txt |
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01:32
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GLaDOS |
Wait, the second change didn't go through.. |
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01:34
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|
GLaDOS |
There we go. |
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02:49
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godane |
i'm grabing the images for the g4tv.com video pages |
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03:16
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|
godane |
SketchCow: the browser here link is broken: http://archive.org/details/MESS_0.149_Software_List_ROMs |
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04:15
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omf_ |
LXDE is switching to QT instead of gtk3 and they have released a preview version. I for one am excited to try it out |
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04:15
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|
omf_ |
http://blog.lxde.org/?p=1013 |
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04:30
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SketchCow |
godane: Thanks, godane. |
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05:06
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|
godane |
pictures from man in the moon: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/06/first-photos-from-the-man-in-the-moon/ |
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05:10
🔗
|
underscor |
This is a thing if y'all haven't seen it |
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05:10
🔗
|
underscor |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/sets/72157633722203885/ |
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05:12
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|
godane |
got to love earthquake detector of hard drive: http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/8847182912/in/set-72157633722203885 |
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05:14
🔗
|
godane |
also #maninthemoon: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23maninthemoon&src=typd |
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05:35
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|
xmc |
godane: what the fuck is this |
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05:35
🔗
|
godane |
its glenn beck Man in the moon event |
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05:36
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xmc |
that actually doesn't answer the question |
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05:37
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|
xmc |
whatever |
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06:50
🔗
|
godane |
i think when flickr goes down we will be fucked |
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06:50
🔗
|
godane |
i say that cause there giving 1TB of free storage to everyone |
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06:50
🔗
|
godane |
not saying everyone will used 1TB |
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07:00
🔗
|
GLaDOS |
Idea: store a backup of IA on flickr. |
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07:00
🔗
|
GLaDOS |
Spread out across multiple accounts. |
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07:01
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|
DFJustin |
per jason's tweets you'd only need 2-4 accounts to store twenty years of software history :D |
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07:07
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|
Sue |
are we going to archive the webtv pagebuilder stuff |
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07:08
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|
omf_ |
Sue, got an example url |
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07:08
🔗
|
Sue |
no, but i read ms was shutting down msntv/webtv |
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07:09
🔗
|
Sue |
and i remember they had a pseudo geocities thing |
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07:10
🔗
|
Sue |
http://community-2.webtv.net/ |
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07:10
🔗
|
Sue |
http://community-2.webtv.net/kdine/ |
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07:10
🔗
|
omf_ |
yeah we should be able to grab that, I even found a page listing how to copy content off webtv |
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07:12
🔗
|
Sue |
https://www.google.com/#q=inurl:community-2.webtv.net |
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07:21
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|
winr4r |
holy shit, webtv |
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07:23
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|
winr4r |
"About 30,200 results" well that's not so bad |
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07:35
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|
winr4r |
oh, there's also community-1 through 4 |
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07:36
🔗
|
winr4r |
7.6k google results on -1, 30 (!) on -3, 1420 on -4 |
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08:00
🔗
|
winr4r |
http://paste.archivingyoursh.it/ferusiveye.avrasm |
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08:00
🔗
|
winr4r |
list scraped from wikipedia |
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08:04
🔗
|
winr4r |
also, "ferusiv eye" |
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08:35
🔗
|
godane |
so there is a guy on myspleen giving computer chronicles to them |
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08:36
🔗
|
godane |
he re-encoded them so they have the season number and episode number of the season |
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08:43
🔗
|
winr4r |
yay |
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09:05
🔗
|
winr4r |
finding more webtv sites from scraping twitter |
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10:31
🔗
|
BlueMax |
did that massive miror backup of Apple II FTPs get backed up? |
|
10:48
🔗
|
ersi |
The Wayback Machine is pretty damn awesome, I don't know how they do it, but damn they have a lot of very new material quickly |
|
10:52
🔗
|
BlueMax |
imagine if we could use Google's servers |
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10:54
🔗
|
ersi |
We can, if we pay for it: https://cloud.google.com/products/compute-engine |
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10:56
🔗
|
BlueMax |
ah yes, the google butt platform |
|
11:33
🔗
|
GLaDOS |
SketchCow: you need to add more admins to the facebook page. |
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11:33
🔗
|
GLaDOS |
(all you need is their email; the email facebook assigns to them is enough) |
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11:56
🔗
|
ersi |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhf5cuXiLTA |
|
11:56
🔗
|
ersi |
wuts |
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12:02
🔗
|
GLaDOS |
ersi: i dunno lol |
|
12:06
🔗
|
ersi |
felt the same, haha |
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12:24
🔗
|
godane |
i told the guy run hackaday that archive.org has a copy of the site |
|
12:24
🔗
|
godane |
in case someone fucks the website |
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12:26
🔗
|
ersi |
Just.. randomly? Or in a conversation? |
|
12:27
🔗
|
godane |
http://hackaday.com/2013/07/01/hackaday-looking-for-a-good-home/comment-page-1/#comment-1023800 |
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12:29
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|
godane |
it was a replay to this comment: http://hackaday.com/2013/07/01/hackaday-looking-for-a-good-home/comment-page-1/#comment-1021701 |
|
12:29
🔗
|
ersi |
Is your comment approved? I can't see it |
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12:29
🔗
|
godane |
i don't think its approved yet |
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12:30
🔗
|
ersi |
that's why I didn't find it :) Alrighty |
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12:33
🔗
|
winr4r |
i didn't know calacanis owned hackaday |
|
12:33
🔗
|
winr4r |
now i do! |
|
12:34
🔗
|
godane |
so i'm almost done with techcrunch |
|
12:34
🔗
|
godane |
i'm down to 2012-12 |
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12:37
🔗
|
winr4r |
excellent |
|
13:09
🔗
|
godane |
i'm getting this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-37-Maximum-PC-CDs-First-Issue-Old-Shareware-Software-1998-2003-/230983015090 |
|
13:32
🔗
|
joepie91 |
godane: awesome, but don't forget to also scan the disc labels :) |
|
13:33
🔗
|
joepie91 |
and/or sleeves/covers |
|
13:33
🔗
|
godane |
i do |
|
13:35
🔗
|
godane |
i have the sleeves and labels like this one: https://archive.org/details/cdrom-maximum-cd-2006-02 |
|
13:36
🔗
|
godane |
i think one of the labels i had to light up the image cause you could see the disc label right |
|
13:36
🔗
|
godane |
*couldn't |
|
13:36
🔗
|
joepie91 |
SketchCow: there was a post that I believe was written by you, about the why of archiving, shovelware discs, and a story as to how one particular gif (?) pulled off those discs ended up being exactly what someone was looking for |
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13:36
🔗
|
joepie91 |
where can I find it? |
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13:36
🔗
|
joepie91 |
godane: alright, neat :) |
|
13:39
🔗
|
godane |
also we have a world of warcraft demo now: https://archive.org/details/dvdrom-maximum-dvd-2006-11 |
|
13:39
🔗
|
winr4r |
joepie91: i know the post you mean, i'll find it |
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13:39
🔗
|
godane |
on of the rare dvds of maximum pc |
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13:41
🔗
|
joepie91 |
winr4r: that would be awesome, I've been googling for it for like 15 minutes now (which, compared to my normal google-fu, is equivalent to roughly 2 years) and I can't seem to find it :/ |
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13:42
🔗
|
joepie91 |
which makes me really frustrated actually :P |
|
13:42
🔗
|
joepie91 |
because I normally can find pretty much anything with at most 2 or 3 searches... |
|
13:42
🔗
|
joepie91 |
also, I've run out of ways to search for this post >.> |
|
13:43
🔗
|
winr4r |
joepie91: yeah |
|
13:43
🔗
|
winr4r |
was it a clown GIF that was at the center of the story? |
|
13:43
🔗
|
* |
winr4r is trying to remember |
|
13:43
🔗
|
joepie91 |
it was |
|
13:43
🔗
|
joepie91 |
yes |
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13:43
🔗
|
joepie91 |
I'm pretty sure |
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13:45
🔗
|
winr4r |
yeah, weirdly i can't find it either |
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13:48
🔗
|
joepie91 |
:/ |
|
13:50
🔗
|
winr4r |
i'm sure jason will know when he wakes up/gets back |
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13:53
🔗
|
godane |
i'm starting to upload techcrunch |
|
13:55
🔗
|
godane |
so i'm also uploaded wwe13 thestory video |
|
13:56
🔗
|
winr4r |
hm, joepie91, are you sure it wasn't mentioned in jason's "shareware calvacade" speech? |
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13:56
🔗
|
winr4r |
rather than a blog post |
|
13:57
🔗
|
joepie91 |
hm |
|
13:57
🔗
|
joepie91 |
quite possibly |
|
13:57
🔗
|
joepie91 |
but I recall _some_ kind of text form also |
|
13:58
🔗
|
joepie91 |
including a link |
|
13:58
🔗
|
joepie91 |
to the actual gif |
|
13:58
🔗
|
joepie91 |
but perhaps the speech is what I'm remembering most vividly |
|
13:58
🔗
|
godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/techcrunch.com-2005-20130627 |
|
13:58
🔗
|
winr4r |
yeah, me too, it's possible we've both imagined a post |
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14:10
🔗
|
godane |
this is funny: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p480x480/1006183_532566800112405_1147712000_n.jpg |
|
15:37
🔗
|
godane |
from UG irc: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/580483_543202455738799_665734743_n.jpg |
|
16:19
🔗
|
Schbirid |
is there some good software to undistort scanned pages on linux? |
|
16:20
🔗
|
winr4r |
Schbirid: unpaper |
|
16:21
🔗
|
Schbirid |
nice |
|
16:26
🔗
|
Schbirid |
ugh, terrible result with default options |
|
16:26
🔗
|
Schbirid |
maybe there is something more manual and with a GUI? i would love to just add lines and say "these are straight, get to work" |
|
16:28
🔗
|
Schbirid |
oh! scantailor is on linux too! |
|
16:30
🔗
|
winr4r |
cooool |
|
16:30
🔗
|
winr4r |
i hadn't heard of it before now, but it looks neat |
|
16:30
🔗
|
SketchCow |
joepie91: Jason Scott's Shareware Calvacade |
|
16:30
🔗
|
joepie91 |
wait, you mean scantailor works on something non-Linux too? :P |
|
16:30
🔗
|
joepie91 |
and yes, scantailor is awesome |
|
16:30
🔗
|
joepie91 |
SketchCow: I see, guess I misremembered it as a blog post then |
|
16:30
🔗
|
joepie91 |
thaks |
|
16:30
🔗
|
joepie91 |
thanks * |
|
16:31
🔗
|
winr4r |
joepie91: we both did! |
|
16:31
🔗
|
joepie91 |
indeed |
|
16:45
🔗
|
Schbirid |
scantailor changes too much, i just need deskewing :( |
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16:46
🔗
|
underscor |
Schbirid: Imagemagick will deskew |
|
16:47
🔗
|
underscor |
But you need to know the number of degrees |
|
16:47
🔗
|
underscor |
(or trial and error) |
|
16:47
🔗
|
Schbirid |
yeah i can keep using gimp for that :P |
|
16:47
🔗
|
Schbirid |
i guess i will do that |
|
16:48
🔗
|
underscor |
well, imagemagick is scriptable in the command line :P |
|
16:49
🔗
|
underscor |
so slightly less tedious than gimp, probably |
|
16:50
🔗
|
Schbirid |
the skew angle is not constant so gimp wins here |
|
16:50
🔗
|
underscor |
aha |
|
16:50
🔗
|
underscor |
there was a project to do skew detection in python and imagemagick, can't quite remeber where I saw that |
|
16:50
🔗
|
underscor |
Might have been librarypirate.me |
|
16:51
🔗
|
xmc |
I found an awesome deskewer |
|
16:52
🔗
|
xmc |
let me dig it up |
|
16:52
🔗
|
Schbirid |
i just wish gimp's grid display was more sane |
|
16:52
🔗
|
xmc |
I think it was the deskewer bundled with leptonica |
|
16:54
🔗
|
xmc |
it has to have used leptonica, since there's not a bundled one ... |
|
16:55
🔗
|
xmc |
but yeah |
|
16:55
🔗
|
xmc |
leptonica has what you want, it'll automatically deskew to within fractional degrees |
|
16:55
🔗
|
xmc |
I scanned a book, it came out straighter than it was originally printed |
|
16:57
🔗
|
db48x |
bah, you're distorting the historical record |
|
16:57
🔗
|
db48x |
phototypeset books often came out a little crooked; if you go and fix them all, the historians will misunderstand the technology |
|
16:58
🔗
|
xmc |
true |
|
16:58
🔗
|
xmc |
this was in preparation for other steps |
|
16:58
🔗
|
xmc |
like I pulled out the figures and htmlized it |
|
16:59
🔗
|
db48x |
cool |
|
16:59
🔗
|
xmc |
it's like only half done, I kind of abandoned the project |
|
17:00
🔗
|
xmc |
http://gir.seattlewireless.net/~chronomex/bellsystem/morris/Morris.html |
|
17:00
🔗
|
xmc |
but if you want to see |
|
17:00
🔗
|
Schbirid |
guess what kind of project took control of me at the moment ;) |
|
17:01
🔗
|
db48x |
xmc: very shiny |
|
17:01
🔗
|
Schbirid |
those pngs want a optipng run |
|
17:02
🔗
|
xmc |
yeah well. that's right out of TeX. |
|
17:02
🔗
|
xmc |
hlatex to be precise |
|
17:06
🔗
|
Schbirid |
gimagereader is so cool for OCR |
|
18:09
🔗
|
joepie91 |
that reminds me |
|
18:09
🔗
|
joepie91 |
now that I have a working opensuse system |
|
18:09
🔗
|
joepie91 |
I can finally install tesseract |
|
18:09
🔗
|
joepie91 |
without having to hunt for dependencies |
|
18:09
🔗
|
joepie91 |
\o/ |
|
18:09
🔗
|
* |
joepie91 mumbles something about fedora and repositories |
|
18:10
🔗
|
xmc |
wheee |
|
18:10
🔗
|
xmc |
ocr |
|
18:15
🔗
|
joepie91 |
that moment when you want to build stuff based on a library you wrote, and then find out that your library is in an unusable state.. |
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18:16
🔗
|
xmc |
:\ |
|
18:25
🔗
|
joepie91 |
also |
|
18:25
🔗
|
joepie91 |
I have to say |
|
18:25
🔗
|
joepie91 |
there's some _beautiful_ photography on flickr |
|
18:26
🔗
|
joepie91 |
and their new layout really _does_ work well to bring that out |
|
18:26
🔗
|
xmc |
can't disagree |
|
18:34
🔗
|
db48x |
joepie91: I had a situation last week where the library was out of date, so I went to edit the source and found that my emacs no longer ran because librsvg2 had been upgraded |
|
18:34
🔗
|
xmc |
nooooo |
|
18:34
🔗
|
db48x |
I had to recompile emacs; talk about shaving a yak |
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18:41
🔗
|
xmc |
lordy |
|
18:41
🔗
|
xmc |
it'd be nice if we had 50 man-years to rewrite emacs to be exactly the same but thread-safe |
|
18:41
🔗
|
db48x |
oh yes, that would be nice |
|
18:41
🔗
|
xmc |
while we're shaving yaks |
|
18:41
🔗
|
db48x |
more than nice |
|
18:42
🔗
|
xmc |
I wonder how many people would put up fifty bucks for that |
|
18:45
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|
ersi |
Like, a whole, cathedral full of people |
|
18:46
🔗
|
xmc |
hmmm. |
|
18:47
🔗
|
ersi |
I kid, I kid. |
|
18:47
🔗
|
Tephra |
where do i send the money? |
|
18:47
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|
db48x |
I would |
|
18:51
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xmc |
I definitely would |
|
18:51
🔗
|
xmc |
like, fuck. |
|
18:52
🔗
|
db48x |
I often run a second emacs just so I can read my email in the second without disrupting the first |
|
18:52
🔗
|
xmc |
huh. |
|
18:59
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|
omf_ |
I don't use emacs anymore but my favorite part is still gnus. Anyone else use it? |
|
18:59
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db48x |
omf_: I do :) |
|
19:00
🔗
|
omf_ |
At first I was like wtf a news reader in emacs and then I used it for a while and it just fit |
|
19:03
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|
db48x |
indeed. email is text though, so it makes sense |
|
19:03
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omf_ |
I don't try to apply sense to emacs anymore ;P It is its own thing |
|
19:04
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|
omf_ |
I meant Emacs OS |
|
19:04
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db48x |
:) |
|
19:04
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|
omf_ |
shit I took a lisp class after I was already proficient with emacs, and it was easy |
|
19:05
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|
omf_ |
intro lisp should be build shit for emacs |
|
19:05
🔗
|
omf_ |
One you learn lisp and two you learn how to work on an existing code base with a large history that is used in production everyday |
|
19:10
🔗
|
db48x |
yea, working with a large existing codebase is not really taught in schools |
|
19:11
🔗
|
db48x |
although I do know of one professor who had his students dive into Firefox and write patches, get them reviewed and checked in |
|
19:11
🔗
|
omf_ |
I would take that class |
|
19:12
🔗
|
omf_ |
I have a huge <3 for firefox |
|
19:14
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|
omf_ |
and chromium too |
|
19:27
🔗
|
db48x |
yea, made me wish I could go back to school |
|
19:27
🔗
|
SmileyG |
heh wish I could code ¬_¬_¬_¬ |
|
19:29
🔗
|
joepie91 |
if anyone is bored, http://www.computeridee.nl//schatkist |
|
19:30
🔗
|
joepie91 |
bunch of assorted random stuff |
|
19:30
🔗
|
joepie91 |
that might be worth archiving |
|
19:35
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omf_ |
Does anyone remember the name of that website that has been collecting beta software for years? A few of us were talking about it either in here a while back. |
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omf_ |
or maybe it was a forum? |
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DFJustin |
http://www.betaarchive.com/ |
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omf_ |
yes that was it |
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SmileyG |
[3872335.406463] usb 3-3.2: New USB device found, idVendor=04cb, idProduct=0267 |
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SmileyG |
[3872335.406466] usb 3-3.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 |
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SmileyG |
[3872335.406469] usb 3-3.2: Product: USB PTP |
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SmileyG |
hmmm wat? |
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SmileyG |
:( why can't it just show up as mass storage and make my life easier. |
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20:09
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SmileyG |
Oh, it's just a camera protocol, phew :) |
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DFJustin |
http://jsmachines.net/devices/pc/5160/cga/machine-dos400m.xml |
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21:15
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DFJustin |
fully uploaded https://archive.org/details/pc98-maker-betsu-tsumeawase |
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SketchCow |
Excellent. |
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22:06
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joepie91 |
kind of curious why that instantserver api stuff imports requests |
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joepie91 |
when it doesn't actually use requests |
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Ravenloft |
"If you're angry about government surveillance, send an email to yourself to let them know." |
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Ravenloft |
good one joepie91 |
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omf_ |
I find this impressive http://anarchivism.org/w/Jason_Scott_Talks |
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joepie91 |
Ravenloft: it's something I copied from elsewhere, hence the quotes :) |
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Ravenloft |
sure |
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joepie91 |
it's indeed very good, though |