| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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00:01
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godane |
pc in cardboard box: http://imgur.com/a/wtd4Q |
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00:18
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|
omf_ |
I like |
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00:58
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|
joepie91 |
godane, servers in cardboard boxes: http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/IT-watch-blog/fdcservers-colocation-data-center-gives-new-life-to-the-term-boxen/ |
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01:23
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DFJustin |
the alienware sticker really makes it |
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01:35
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Panaosnic |
http://www.thespaceinvaders.org/ |
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03:19
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|
underscor |
When you say the word "poop" your mouth does the same motion your butt hole does when you poop. |
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05:39
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omf_ |
lol |
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05:40
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|
omf_ |
POOP |
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06:12
🔗
|
* |
omf_ throws a pancake at SmileyG |
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06:13
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|
* |
GLaDOS pancakes omf_ back with a SmileyG |
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06:21
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omf_ |
I wonder how hard it would be to convince a client to buy me the Jakob Neilson reports |
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06:33
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omf_ |
Is the Kindle Paperwhite still the best ereader in terms of legibility? I am looking into finally getting an ereader instead of my laptop |
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06:35
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|
omf_ |
I tried the latest nook out and I was not impressed |
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06:57
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|
* |
BlueMax pancakes omf_ |
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06:57
🔗
|
godane |
so i'm passed 54k videos in my g4video-web collection |
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06:58
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|
godane |
also i will be able to start uploaded the 'g4 unpublic video ids' |
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07:38
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|
SmileyG |
hmmm |
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07:38
🔗
|
SmileyG |
I have forgotton where to get the S3 script |
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07:39
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|
SmileyG |
ah sorted it :P |
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07:44
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|
godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/17Bit_Collection_A |
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08:08
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|
godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/17Bit_Collection_B |
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08:20
🔗
|
omf_ |
So my spare computer fried |
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08:20
🔗
|
godane |
i'm grabing the linux format dvds again |
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08:20
🔗
|
omf_ |
and I need to hook up an internal bluray drive so I pull out my backup from the closet. That bitch is so old it is running windows XP |
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08:21
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omf_ |
The last time I used windows XP on a computer was 2003 |
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08:21
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|
omf_ |
I think I need to do some computer upgrades and get a more modern backup machine |
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08:22
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|
omf_ |
I have had more computer failures this year than any year I can remember, it is such a bummer because we all get so used to stuff just working |
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08:23
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|
omf_ |
We always go on about backing up data but what about having spare fulling working computers around |
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08:23
🔗
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omf_ |
shit I gotta find an IDE hard drive |
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08:32
🔗
|
BlueMaxim |
hey SketchCow, you around? |
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08:36
🔗
|
godane |
so i'm uploading some of the dual side linux format dvds i had |
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08:36
🔗
|
godane |
disk 80, 88, and 138 |
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08:54
🔗
|
omf_ |
The machine is so old it does not have sata on the motherboard and the sata card I have will not let me boot off the bluray drive ugh. |
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08:56
🔗
|
ersi |
boot.. off of bluray? woot |
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08:56
🔗
|
omf_ |
a linux live dvd |
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08:57
🔗
|
ersi |
ah, so not a bluray disc - multi-format drive ftw |
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08:57
🔗
|
omf_ |
I had over 25% of my bluray backup disks fail so I switched up to raid hard drives for backups which works great but I still have more disks to go through |
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08:58
🔗
|
ersi |
I don't have a single unit that can eat bluray |
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08:58
🔗
|
omf_ |
it is not worth it |
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08:58
🔗
|
ersi |
that's what I figured :) |
|
08:58
🔗
|
omf_ |
I tried three different brands and they still suck |
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08:59
🔗
|
omf_ |
the media is just too fucking cheap |
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08:59
🔗
|
omf_ |
I am just trying to finish wrapping up a multi month media move |
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08:59
🔗
|
omf_ |
I want it over so I can pitch these bluray disks and drives |
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09:00
🔗
|
ersi |
sounds like a plan |
|
09:00
🔗
|
omf_ |
never had this problem with cdrs or dvdrs |
|
09:01
🔗
|
omf_ |
I tested some dvdr backups from 13 years ago and they still worked 100% |
|
09:01
🔗
|
omf_ |
and yet a fucking bluray disc can go bad in under 2 years |
|
09:01
🔗
|
ersi |
well, they figure most of the people who wanna back up that amount of data will never check it |
|
09:01
🔗
|
ersi |
;D |
|
09:02
🔗
|
omf_ |
I just do not get how bluray can be such an abortion |
|
09:02
🔗
|
ersi |
me neither |
|
09:02
🔗
|
danneh_ |
well, they probably don't mind if the blurays go bad |
|
09:02
🔗
|
omf_ |
then I remind myself that fucking SONY invented that shit |
|
09:02
🔗
|
danneh_ |
goes bad? buy another one |
|
09:03
🔗
|
omf_ |
HDDVD |
|
09:03
🔗
|
omf_ |
how I miss you |
|
09:04
🔗
|
GLaDOS |
I just chip my backups into rocks. |
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09:04
🔗
|
omf_ |
I thought about 32 or 64gb thumb drives but those can be inconsistent as well |
|
09:04
🔗
|
ersi |
I just pour mine into the cloud |
|
09:04
🔗
|
ersi |
I get it back when it rains |
|
09:04
🔗
|
GLaDOS |
The cloud <3 |
|
09:04
🔗
|
ersi |
I don't always back up my data, but when I do, I put it in The cloud(TM) |
|
09:05
🔗
|
omf_ |
Anyone ever seen a 24 hour computer parts store? we need that |
|
09:05
🔗
|
ersi |
It's called the Internet and globalisation |
|
09:06
🔗
|
omf_ |
they cannot get me the parts today so they fail |
|
09:06
🔗
|
omf_ |
I can *walk* down the street and get 24/7 groceries or 24/7 pharmarcy |
|
09:07
🔗
|
ersi |
Well, I'm technically correct since you didn't specify that's what you wanted :) |
|
09:07
🔗
|
omf_ |
true ersi |
|
09:07
🔗
|
ersi |
but yes, that would be awesome |
|
09:07
🔗
|
ersi |
I bet they'd be expensive though :) |
|
09:08
🔗
|
omf_ |
24/7 works in large cities. I live in a city that has close to 2 million people, I would like to think it could support 1 store like that |
|
09:08
🔗
|
ersi |
Stockholm has about the same population |
|
09:08
🔗
|
ersi |
the transit system shuts down at midnight |
|
09:08
🔗
|
omf_ |
There is at least 10 24/7 groceries in town, hell we got 24/7 bowling alleys |
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09:09
🔗
|
omf_ |
buses shutdown here at midnight too |
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09:09
🔗
|
ersi |
Yeah, but fuck driving a car in Sweden |
|
09:09
🔗
|
omf_ |
but the road is empty so bicycles all the way down :) |
|
09:09
🔗
|
ersi |
ah, heh |
|
09:09
🔗
|
ersi |
Figured that might be silly if buying electronics |
|
09:10
🔗
|
omf_ |
I got two bicycles. One of them has the rear carrying brackets so I can haul shit |
|
09:10
🔗
|
ersi |
I've been thinking of making a bike cart for my bike |
|
09:12
🔗
|
omf_ |
I am going to buy two of these adapters since they are only $9.99 each |
|
09:12
🔗
|
ersi |
What's a "cash call"? |
|
09:14
🔗
|
ersi |
Sounds like a "thing", saw fifty names looking like 1800cashcall<variation> in my LJ-scraper |
|
09:14
🔗
|
ersi |
1800 makes me think "1-800" like US phone numbers |
|
09:15
🔗
|
omf_ |
they are a mortgage loan shit house |
|
09:15
🔗
|
ersi |
ah |
|
09:15
🔗
|
omf_ |
spam from them is not surprising |
|
09:16
🔗
|
ersi |
One title from CashCallMortages; "American Dream Special" |
|
09:16
🔗
|
ersi |
I laughed |
|
09:20
🔗
|
omf_ |
lol I just found my copy of "The Dark Half" in this old dvd drive |
|
09:20
🔗
|
SmileyG |
heh backup on blu rays? |
|
09:20
🔗
|
SmileyG |
hell, back up on optical media? |
|
09:21
🔗
|
omf_ |
quality dvdrs you get more than 10 years |
|
09:21
🔗
|
omf_ |
but now they are too small for most things |
|
09:24
🔗
|
omf_ |
I am definitely going to drop some serious coin before the end of the summer to have working backup machines |
|
09:24
🔗
|
omf_ |
then again for most backup purposes a raspberry pi is enough |
|
09:51
🔗
|
omf_ |
I do not even have a 32bit linux cd anywhere |
|
09:52
🔗
|
omf_ |
fuck it, I'll just wait for the store to open to do more, at least I will have most of this wrapped up by the end of the day |
|
10:05
🔗
|
godane |
what brands of bluray are you using? |
|
10:06
🔗
|
omf_ |
I tried all the verbatim types, windata and one other I cannot remember. I also used 3 different bluray burning branded drives. I have extensive data I plan on publishing once I finish up this last stack of disks |
|
10:07
🔗
|
godane |
i have some verbatim |
|
10:07
🔗
|
omf_ |
I burned over 500 disks over the course of two years |
|
10:08
🔗
|
godane |
i also use memorex also |
|
10:08
🔗
|
omf_ |
If I had losts of spare money I would go back to tape |
|
10:09
🔗
|
godane |
i don't have that option |
|
10:09
🔗
|
godane |
if i'm luckly i can buy another 2TB usb drive in 3 to 4 months |
|
10:09
🔗
|
omf_ |
I ain't got no money either |
|
10:22
🔗
|
ersi |
Oh yeah, by the way: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/195148/dwarf_fortress_in_2013.php?print=1 |
|
10:22
🔗
|
ersi |
Full of good gems |
|
10:28
🔗
|
godane |
we may need to start archiving this guy's work: http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/ryan-davis-1979-2013/1100-4685/ |
|
10:30
🔗
|
godane |
his twitter account: https://twitter.com/taswell |
|
10:39
🔗
|
godane |
so i'm mirroring the gaint bombcast podcast |
|
11:13
🔗
|
godane |
so i got some good news on the giant bombcast podcast |
|
11:14
🔗
|
godane |
all mp3s are one rss feed |
|
11:14
🔗
|
godane |
page |
|
11:14
🔗
|
godane |
and i can sed it to have keywords, title, desciptions and dates |
|
11:15
🔗
|
godane |
so it will be like when i was uploading cbc spark |
|
11:21
🔗
|
winr4r |
hey, jason was on cbc spark |
|
11:22
🔗
|
godane |
here is the collection: https://archive.org/details/spark_cbc |
|
11:35
🔗
|
omf_ |
the facebook graph search is the easiest stalking program I have ever used |
|
11:36
🔗
|
omf_ |
yeah they are doing wide release of it now |
|
11:39
🔗
|
omf_ |
never mind. This query did not work "My friends who like photos of Cats" |
|
11:39
🔗
|
omf_ |
that is fucking basic |
|
11:42
🔗
|
omf_ |
and I get pinterest style photo pages |
|
11:42
🔗
|
winr4r |
oh shit no |
|
11:42
🔗
|
omf_ |
what the fuck am I seeing here |
|
11:42
🔗
|
winr4r |
pinterest-style unaligned columns are a cancer |
|
11:43
🔗
|
omf_ |
it is psychological warfare |
|
11:43
🔗
|
winr4r |
i start to doubt myself, like if that's just me spergin' the fuck out, given how eeeeveryone is doing it now |
|
11:44
🔗
|
omf_ |
most websites have shit ux and no taste |
|
11:44
🔗
|
winr4r |
hey guys, github or bitbucket |
|
11:44
🔗
|
omf_ |
INFINITE SCROLL |
|
11:44
🔗
|
omf_ |
we got most or stuff on github |
|
11:45
🔗
|
omf_ |
I like looking at photos sorted by region where the person lives |
|
11:46
🔗
|
winr4r |
okay github it is then |
|
11:46
🔗
|
omf_ |
I am a super huge graph database nerd |
|
11:46
🔗
|
omf_ |
https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/ |
|
11:48
🔗
|
omf_ |
I am now going state by state because I can |
|
11:48
🔗
|
omf_ |
I bet they have freebase tied into this |
|
11:48
🔗
|
winr4r |
i suppose if you're all using git, then it makes sense to use git, and github is the obvious choice for a repo |
|
11:48
🔗
|
winr4r |
so there it is |
|
11:49
🔗
|
omf_ |
well look what I found. Slutty Halloween pictures. |
|
11:49
🔗
|
omf_ |
^_^ |
|
11:51
🔗
|
Baljem |
hmm. does it recognise 'big knockers' as an attribute when searching for slutty Halloween pictures? ;) |
|
11:51
🔗
|
omf_ |
let me try |
|
11:51
🔗
|
omf_ |
this search just popped up in autocomplete |
|
11:51
🔗
|
omf_ |
" Photos of my friends who have liked ArchiveTeam " |
|
11:52
🔗
|
omf_ |
fucking skynet |
|
11:52
🔗
|
Baljem |
hah |
|
11:52
🔗
|
Baljem |
that's curious phrasing. "have liked" as opposed to "like"... |
|
11:53
🔗
|
winr4r |
yes |
|
11:53
🔗
|
omf_ |
"liked" is a facebook flag |
|
11:54
🔗
|
omf_ |
I "liked" Rage Against the Machine |
|
11:54
🔗
|
webjunkie |
they are trying to make the search "natural" language |
|
11:54
🔗
|
omf_ |
most people this shit is still too hard but I think it is pretty simple to use |
|
11:55
🔗
|
omf_ |
then again I am a programmer |
|
11:55
🔗
|
webjunkie |
Yeah, I've had the preview for months and I found it super easy |
|
11:56
🔗
|
webjunkie |
like you said...if you want to creep on people it makes it insanely easy |
|
11:57
🔗
|
Baljem |
mm, I can understand why they use that as the flag, but they use the "like" form a lot too; "So-and-so likes Something You've Never Heard Of", etc. |
|
11:57
🔗
|
omf_ |
I am going to write a program to login as me and markov chain the fuck out of that search |
|
11:57
🔗
|
Baljem |
which does it use in results, if any? |
|
11:57
🔗
|
omf_ |
I can search by state but not by region of the country |
|
11:58
🔗
|
omf_ |
they must not be using freebase because it has identifiers for regions and the like so it is possible to use that as a search criteria |
|
11:59
🔗
|
godane |
holy crap |
|
11:59
🔗
|
godane |
i may have figured out how to do muliable line descs now |
|
12:00
🔗
|
godane |
add this for link brake: 

 |
|
12:03
🔗
|
SmileyG |
o_O???? |
|
12:03
🔗
|
SmileyG |
Sent 3156111360 bytes (1%) |
|
12:04
🔗
|
SmileyG |
lolololol |
|
12:04
🔗
|
omf_ |
yeah |
|
12:04
🔗
|
godane |
i only found out about it cause i'm using a older version of cbc podcast desc page |
|
12:04
🔗
|
SmileyG |
i can't remember where to view the S3 stats |
|
12:04
🔗
|
omf_ |
I hope the store has the raspberry pi power adapters in stock |
|
12:04
🔗
|
omf_ |
SmileyG, that page is offline due to security issues |
|
12:05
🔗
|
SmileyG |
omf_: doh! |
|
12:05
🔗
|
omf_ |
nevermind they put it back up |
|
12:05
🔗
|
omf_ |
must have fixed it. http://archive.org/stats/s3.php |
|
12:05
🔗
|
omf_ |
http://home.us.archive.org/~tracey/mrtg/ is back too |
|
12:06
🔗
|
winr4r |
https://github.com/lewiscollard/mwlinkscrape |
|
12:22
🔗
|
ersi |
http://highscalability.com/blog/2013/7/8/the-architecture-twitter-uses-to-deal-with-150m-active-users.html |
|
12:23
🔗
|
ersi |
Holy moley |
|
12:30
🔗
|
SmileyG |
At any given time there’s about 1 million sockets open to the push cluster. :O |
|
12:30
🔗
|
ersi |
22MB/s data on ze firehose |
|
12:30
🔗
|
SmileyG |
yah |
|
12:31
🔗
|
ersi |
176Mbit/s~ |
|
12:31
🔗
|
SmileyG |
1 million sockets, so even if we presumed consumers like... google, have 1 per server for a large part of what ever process they are sucking them down via.... DAMN thats a lot of people listening |
|
12:36
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|
winr4r |
ersi: very interesting |
|
12:39
🔗
|
SmileyG |
heh, awesome for testing our line here :D |
|
12:40
🔗
|
ersi |
SmileyG: Testing your line? |
|
12:40
🔗
|
SmileyG |
ersi: at work |
|
12:40
🔗
|
SmileyG |
500Mbit |
|
12:40
🔗
|
godane |
does anyone know about the cbc spark missing podcasts yet? |
|
12:41
🔗
|
godane |
there are still missing podcasts on there from what i can tell |
|
12:41
🔗
|
winr4r |
nope |
|
12:41
🔗
|
winr4r |
also: http://officialpiczoblog.piczo.com/ |
|
12:42
🔗
|
winr4r |
this has been "soon" since october 2012 |
|
12:42
🔗
|
ersi |
SmileyG: You won't get access to the Firehose |
|
12:43
🔗
|
ersi |
So dream on |
|
12:43
🔗
|
winr4r |
wat do? |
|
12:45
🔗
|
SmileyG |
ersi: Oh I know that |
|
12:45
🔗
|
SmileyG |
just saying it'd be neat. |
|
12:47
🔗
|
Baljem |
the line "Internal clients use roughly the same API as external clients" amuses me somewhat |
|
12:48
🔗
|
Baljem |
didn't Microsoft try that excuse with the DoJ a while back? ;) |
|
12:48
🔗
|
ersi |
roughly usually means "does not use anything similar to the public APIs" |
|
12:48
🔗
|
ersi |
Baljem: Uh? What? |
|
12:49
🔗
|
ersi |
It's usually a good idea to use the same API for external as well as internal things, you get a lot better quality cover |
|
12:49
🔗
|
ersi |
not always, but usually |
|
12:49
🔗
|
Baljem |
I seem to recall one of the MS anti-trust claims revolved around internal APIs allowing MS apps to do things that 3rd party apps couldn't |
|
12:49
🔗
|
ersi |
Kind of different when you're installed on every damn computer |
|
12:50
🔗
|
Baljem |
which is why there's now a slew of MSDN pages warning about the functions they document being subject to random breakage, etc. |
|
12:50
🔗
|
Baljem |
well, sure, but the hype behind social media would suggest that it's not all /that/ different ;) |
|
12:50
🔗
|
Baljem |
(I'm not *entirely* serious here, you understand, just musing randomly) |
|
12:50
🔗
|
ersi |
It's not all that different from Operating Systems? |
|
12:51
🔗
|
Baljem |
... no, it's not all that different from the point of view of blocking competitors apps |
|
12:51
🔗
|
Baljem |
which, as I recall, Twitter has recently been doing with quite some glee |
|
12:52
🔗
|
Baljem |
I mean, OK, from one point of view it's just a load of whining about ephermal nonsense that nobody cares about |
|
12:52
🔗
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Baljem |
but on the other hand, Twitter /is/ fairly big and dominant in its sector, isn't it? |
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12:52
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winr4r |
Baljem: so was myspace, so was friendster, so was geocities |
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12:53
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Baljem |
ah, but did they provide an API and (initially) encourage 3rd party developers to write competing client apps? |
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12:54
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winr4r |
yes |
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12:54
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winr4r |
they don't owe anyone else a business model |
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12:54
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winr4r |
i mean it's crappy and awful to punch your ecosystem in the face, but it's not antitrust material |
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12:55
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Baljem |
well, no, I suspect the entire thing is too frivolous. but it seems to be the same arguments, just a matter of degree |
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12:56
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Baljem |
(NB: not thinking about the abusive-monopoly part of the MS antitrust suits, but the unfair-advantage-over-ISVs part) |
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13:04
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winr4r |
eh, i don't know |
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* |
ersi just shrugs and ignores the conversation |
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13:06
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Baljem |
yeah, sorry, I just have a weird sense of dry humour at times. I'll shut up ;) |
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13:07
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winr4r pets Baljem |
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ersi |
Humour? Anti-trust and abusive-monopolies? Mmmh. |
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Baljem |
well, my initial comment was a tongue-in-cheek "where have we heard that before?" type joke. it kinda spiralled out of control when I started over-thinking it ;) |
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ersi |
Right |
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13:19
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SmileyG |
Baljem: how much did you pay for twitter again? |
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13:19
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SmileyG |
Thats the big thing everyone seems to forget about windows _ALL THE TIME_ |
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13:19
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SmileyG |
you paid for it, if it came with your PC. |
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13:20
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ersi |
You pay with brain cells, when using Tweetarh |
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13:21
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winr4r |
is this horse dead yet folks best beat it to make sure |
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13:21
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ersi |
Let's |
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13:21
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winr4r |
whack whack whack |
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ersi |
You fuckin' horse! |
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* |
ersi kicks it about |
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* |
ersi sends his dwarf army to beat up the horse |
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13:21
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* |
GLaDOS horses the dead horse around with a bit of horse |
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13:22
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GLaDOS |
YEAH, LETS HORSE THIS DEAD HORSE |
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ersi |
HORSE IT REAL GOOD |
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13:22
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Baljem |
heh. I'm not touching it. I apologise unreservedly for dragging the horse into the ring in the first place ;) |
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ersi brings another horse into the ring |
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13:22
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ersi |
The game is ON! Go living horse, beat that dead horse! |
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Baljem |
is it pre-dead? |
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13:22
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Baljem |
oh |
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13:24
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Baljem |
I don't think your horse understood your instruction, ersi :( |
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13:25
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ersi |
Yeah, it killed itself |
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Baljem |
skills! |
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13:26
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ersi |
so now, two dead horsies |
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13:26
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GLaDOS |
It was all like "NEIGH I'M A HORSIE" and then died. |
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GLaDOS |
Rather spectacular |
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13:27
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winr4r |
spooky thing: there's a drama on TV *right now* that i'm not following, and someone just euthanised his horse |
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13:27
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Baljem |
apropos of nothing, I have just learned of the existence of 'Fizzy Pepsi Cola' flavoured corn snacks. uh, what. |
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13:27
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winr4r |
so how about that |
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13:27
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Baljem |
is that a euphemism for something, winr4r? ;) |
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13:27
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SketchCow |
A horse is a horse, euthanized of course |
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13:28
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Baljem |
"excuse me a minute, I'm just off to, uh, euthanise my horse, if you know what I mean" |
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13:28
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SketchCow |
And nobody shoots a lame horse of course |
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winr4r |
morning SketchCow |
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godane |
hey SketchCow |
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13:28
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godane |
i'm starting to upload more linux format dvds |
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13:29
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SketchCow |
Bed delivery here in NYC |
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13:29
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SketchCow |
Before heading north |
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13:30
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SketchCow |
We turned the heat up on the internet archive digitizer upstate |
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ersi |
Hmmm, wouldn't one say "zed" to the Z character? Not "C" [see]? Heard several say "see"/"C" instead of zed ;o |
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winr4r |
ersi: "zee" in american english |
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13:33
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winr4r |
"zed" is british/commonwealth english |
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ersi |
Wow, alright |
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13:34
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ersi |
'cause "zee" sounds a lot more like "C" |
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13:34
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godane |
SketchCow: i'm going to be uploading giantbombcast podcast |
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13:34
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godane |
one of the guys died at 34 |
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winr4r |
hey, does anyone know what format this is in: http://archive.org/details/2013_common_crawl_index_urls |
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14:00
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winr4r |
when uncompressed |
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14:01
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winr4r |
(can't download 21gb of stuff here) |
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ersi |
I'm sure ivan` does, since he made it :) |
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14:02
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ersi |
I guess it's just a textfile with URL\nURL\n |
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14:03
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winr4r |
ah okay |
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14:04
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winr4r |
i'm writing a page on teh wiki, i'd like to know for sure |
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14:05
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Baljem |
hmm. is there a trick to downloading that file with curl? I can grab it from the browser but I don't want the whole thing, obviously, just want to pipe it into bunzip2 | head... |
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14:07
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winr4r |
curl --no-buffer thing | bunzip2 | head ? |
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14:09
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Baljem |
ah, got it - right-click, copy link gives a redirector link, I think, grabbed the actual file URL from the Web Inspector and that worked |
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14:09
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winr4r |
oh! i misunderstood the question |
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14:09
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Baljem |
want me to paste the first few lines in query as an example, winr4r, or is that not going to be particularly useful? |
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SmileyG |
pastebin that stuff babbbby |
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14:10
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winr4r |
Baljem: yup, pastebin pl0x |
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14:12
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Baljem |
http://pastebin.com/zfqwbPRW |
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14:12
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Baljem |
sorry for the delay, brain went dead and I couldn't remember where the ArchiveTeam pastebin thingy was - so used the boring one ;) |
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14:13
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SmileyG |
those look weird. |
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14:13
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GLaDOS |
..it's flipped them around |
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14:13
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SmileyG |
but just split on : |
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14:13
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SmileyG |
GLaDOS: non. |
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14:13
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winr4r |
hm! |
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GLaDOS |
what |
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14:14
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winr4r |
maybe the ones at the top are malformed ones |
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14:14
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SmileyG |
actually maybe it has |
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14:14
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winr4r |
and the rest are all normal |
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14:14
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SmileyG |
winr4r: ones at the top are mailto's |
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14:15
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winr4r |
SmileyG: right, but if it's *normally* flipped around, then why would there only be two .coms at the top? |
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14:16
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ersi |
lool, why does it start with tld and end with protocol |
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14:16
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ersi |
shrug |
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14:17
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Baljem |
shades of JANET addressing there! |
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14:17
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winr4r |
ersi: yeah, that makes me think that those ones are outliers in the set |
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14:17
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winr4r |
at least on the count of starting with the tld |
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14:18
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ersi |
haha, nice URLs :D #15 -> http://www.meatmembers.com (Yes, it's as NSFW as it sounds) |
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14:18
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Baljem |
I was disappointed by the apparent content of http://www.bindher.com ;) |
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14:18
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SmileyG |
dear lord :D |
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14:18
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* |
SmileyG doesn't click either. |
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14:19
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GLaDOS |
That's why the second one sucks. |
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14:19
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GLaDOS |
"<meta name="generator" content="Quick 'n Easy Web Builder - http://www.quickandeasywebbuilder.com">" |
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14:19
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SmileyG |
Anyone want to help me moving 50kg racks containing 30kg powered on, live servers? |
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14:19
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winr4r |
SmileyG: yes |
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14:19
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GLaDOS |
SmileyG: yeah sure why not |
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14:19
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Baljem |
OK, a handful taken from around line 2,500,000 look the same |
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14:20
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Baljem |
e.g. "ar.com.elsurhoy/:http" |
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14:20
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SmileyG |
don't ask why the racks weigh so much, no one seems to be able to answer other than "Like their servers, dell racks weigh far more than thought possible). |
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14:20
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winr4r |
Baljem: hmm |
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14:20
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SmileyG |
someone needs to for x in ./list; do wget $x; done these. |
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14:20
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* |
SmileyG looks at underscor |
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14:20
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Baljem |
mind you, line 2,500,000 is only 20.2MB into the file |
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14:21
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* |
winr4r does magic spell, summons underscor |
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14:21
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winr4r |
Baljem: yes, exactly |
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14:21
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SmileyG |
yey my S3 upload is 2% done. |
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14:21
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SmileyG |
use this to build markov chains. Instantly know all websites ever? |
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14:21
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Baljem |
the machine I was doing that from pull it down at about 1MB/sec so if we wanted to pick a suitably huge number I could try again... just can't save it because it doesn't have enough disk space |
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winr4r |
Baljem: thanks for helping anyway :) |
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14:22
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Baljem |
holy shit, 28MB free on /? I need to shuffle some VMs around. turn the old host crate into a Warrior machine perhaps |
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14:22
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winr4r |
i think it may well be backwards as you suspect |
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14:25
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Baljem |
would seem a curious format to provide results in though |
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14:26
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Baljem |
well, apart from it allowing sorting by TLD, that is |
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14:26
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Baljem |
... whether that's a useful thing to make easy is another matter |
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14:32
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winr4r |
Baljem: i'm throwing together a set of tips for finding sites on a soon-to-be-dead host |
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14:32
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winr4r |
(related to what i threw up on github earlier) |
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14:32
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winr4r |
so, making it easy is not a concern |
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14:32
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Baljem |
*nods* |
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14:33
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Baljem |
I was just trying to think of motivations for reversing the FQDN, really, and coming up short :) |
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14:33
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winr4r |
ohh, gotcha |
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14:34
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winr4r |
sorry misunderstood |
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14:34
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Baljem |
I really need to stop musing out loud *grin* |
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14:35
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Baljem |
some sets of hints and tips certainly sound useful though. when I got involved with you crazy lot a while back, it was a case of pestering people for help and hoping not to piss anyone off with total ineptness |
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14:35
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ersi |
Probably for sorting on TLD, like you said earlier - I wouldn't find that super weird, albeit maybe a little |
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14:36
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ersi |
Or maybe the common crawl people got Java in their brains and made them look like packages |
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14:36
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Baljem |
yeah, it just seems a bit of an edge case to optimise for |
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14:36
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ersi |
com.oracle.utils.lols.FinderCakeFactory |
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14:36
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Baljem |
heh, yes |
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14:37
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winr4r |
ersi: yup |
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14:37
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ersi |
or maybe ivan` sorted it that way :) I know he did a top-list per TLD |
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14:38
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Baljem |
right, line 50,000,000 is "be.zoover.www/griekenland/lefkas-levkas/hortata/sitemap:http" |
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14:38
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Baljem |
I think it's probably safe to assume there aren't that many 'weird' entries, and that is in fact normal |
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14:38
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Baljem |
(that corresponds to about 392MB into the file) |
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14:38
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winr4r |
Baljem: thanks man :) |
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14:39
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winr4r |
Baljem: 392mb into the uncompressed or compressed one? |
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14:39
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Baljem |
compressed |
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14:39
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winr4r |
Baljem: alright yeah, it probably is backward-ordered then |
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14:39
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Baljem |
so approximately the 2% mark |
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14:39
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winr4r |
thanks :) |
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14:39
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Baljem |
no worries. it was a welcome distraction from the horrors of Other People's Code ;) |
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14:40
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winr4r |
haha |
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14:41
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Baljem |
seriously. just found a file full of MFC code, with a comment buried in the middle "this is a workaround for an issue with Borland Turbo C++ 1.0" |
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14:41
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Baljem |
... wat. |
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14:41
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winr4r |
wat |
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14:42
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Baljem |
... it was supposedly written in 2003! |
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14:42
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Baljem |
it doesn't help that this project wasn't under source control until mid-2005 when I took over from the ex-boss :( |
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14:43
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winr4r |
:( |
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14:59
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winr4r |
http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Site_exploration |
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15:04
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SmileyG |
good job :) |
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15:06
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winr4r |
i'll probably clean that bing script up into something worth releasing soon enough |
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15:11
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ivan` |
ersi: Baljem: the commoncrawl data is unmodified (using their strings as-is) |
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15:11
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godane |
i found a lost episode of CBC Spark: https://archive.org/details/spark_20070919_3346 |
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15:11
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ivan` |
I have a Python script that turns it into real URLs but note their data is sometimes ambiguious |
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15:12
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ersi |
ivan`: ah :) |
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15:12
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ersi |
ivan`: See any point in their format? |
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15:13
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ivan` |
it is useful for sorting domains properly but they did not do it right (can't tell port apart from :n at the end of a URL) |
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15:16
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winr4r |
ivan`: can you shove that script into paste.archivingyoursh.it please? :) |
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15:16
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winr4r |
godane: good job :) |
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15:17
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ivan` |
I just pasted to https://www.refheap.com/16448/raw |
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15:17
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ivan` |
Baljem: ^ |
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15:17
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ivan` |
hastebin is bad software and I try to avoid it |
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15:18
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winr4r |
yeah, but on the other hand, it's run by us |
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15:18
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winr4r |
or rather, GLaDOS i think |
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ersi |
indeed |
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15:19
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ersi |
ivan`: Guess they assume everything either runs on :80 or :443 and just care about the end being http:// or https:// |
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15:19
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ivan` |
https://github.com/trivio/common_crawl_index/issues/12 |
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15:19
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ivan` |
there are other bugs |
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15:20
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ivan` |
https://github.com/trivio/common_crawl_index/issues |
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15:20
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Baljem |
ivan: nice - I was just fiddling with a really nasty Perl one-liner to do it, but wasn't liking it at all |
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15:21
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ivan` |
no warranty, doesn't handle some of their broken stuff |
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15:21
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ivan` |
at least it doesn't crash ;) |
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15:22
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Baljem |
well, it saves me making a pillock of myself by suggesting a hack that only handles the test cases I threw at it ;) |
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15:23
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winr4r |
ivan`: thanks, updated the page :) |
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15:35
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godane |
we may have a problem: http://torrentfreak.com/shut-down-the-pirate-bay-founder-says-130708/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Torrentfreak+%28Torrentfreak%29 |
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DFJustin |
archive.org does the same backwards thing with domain names if you look at the index files they generate https://archive.org/download/archive.pdp11.org.ru-20130504/archive.pdp11.org.ru-20130504.cdx.idx |
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15:37
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DFJustin |
they seem to automatically fold example.com and www.example.com into the same wayback machine entry so it probably facilitates that |
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15:38
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winr4r |
oh uh |
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15:39
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winr4r |
we've *had* a problem: apparently piczo actually disappeared |
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15:39
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winr4r |
piczo.com returns a "we're dead", but subdomains (on which the sites were hosted, and where all the shit was) still work |
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15:40
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winr4r |
and there's lots of other pages that still seem to work |
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15:40
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winr4r |
(piczo: like geocities but more so) |
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15:42
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winr4r |
or "social geocities" |
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15:42
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Baljem |
"There.s actually been more downtime for the site due to drunk admins, than downtime due to raids." <- heh. my servers always wait until I'm well oiled to demand attention, too |
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15:42
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Baljem |
is piczo another one we only hear about on the day it actually dies? :( |
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15:43
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winr4r |
Baljem: it was announced a while back as "closing down soon" |
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15:43
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Baljem |
ah, OK. first I'd heard of the site was someone linking to that 'closing soon' blog post earlier today |
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15:44
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winr4r |
yeah, that was me |
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15:44
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winr4r |
it actually happened earlier this year some time |
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15:45
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winr4r |
they seem to be keeping the sites themselves up though |
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15:45
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winr4r |
for how long, who knows |
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15:47
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winr4r |
https://www.facebook.com/Piczo |
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15:47
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winr4r |
the posts here are a fascinating mix of "nooooo why did you close piczo" and "please delete my site" (aka "oh shit, this still shows in search results for my name") |
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15:55
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Baljem |
I'm not sure whether to be worried that, scrolling down that page, the thing that jumped out at me was "is that a Canonet she's using?" |
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15:56
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Baljem |
but I think it isn't because I don't see a photocell at the top of the lens. bah. |
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15:56
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winr4r |
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418000_10150556564238479_643127632_n.jpg ? |
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15:56
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winr4r |
hm, good question |
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15:56
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Baljem |
yep |
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15:57
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winr4r |
definitely late-60s/early-70s rangefinder styling |
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15:57
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Baljem |
it looks a lot like the Canonet 28 I just refurbed, except that would have a chrome barrel and I think a wider RF glass |
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15:57
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winr4r |
take off the lens and it could be an olympus trip 35, but the writing on the lens is too big |
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15:57
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winr4r |
oh! |
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15:58
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winr4r |
olympus 35 RC |
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15:58
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winr4r |
compare: http://kenrockwell.com/olympus/images/35rc/D3S_6137-1200.jpg |
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Baljem |
yes. nice spot! |
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15:58
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winr4r |
fuck, we're nerds :( |
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15:59
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Baljem |
haha. I did say it could be a worry *grin* |
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16:45
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godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/cdrom-linuxformatmagazine-80 |
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16:47
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Baljem |
huge piles of <3 to whoever decided the Wayback Machine needed to take a nibble at Adaptec's downloads site -- it's been offline for months, and I only just thought to look at archive.org for the updated drivers... |
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16:49
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DFJustin salutes the kindly wayback robots |
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16:57
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Baljem |
welp. turns out it wasn't my imagination playing tricks on me - my RAID array is actually degraded, despite the controller BIOS claiming the drives are healthy and the mirror is resyncing |
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16:57
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winr4r |
:< |
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16:57
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Baljem |
now I've got the Storage Manager installed again, it tells me drive 1 has failed and the array is degraded. *thumbs up* |
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16:57
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Baljem |
might be a good excuse to upgrade from a pair of 1TB drives though |
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16:58
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Baljem |
aww crap, if I'd realised that a fortnight ago I could have snuck it into the last financial year for general taxation goodness |
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16:59
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winr4r |
aw |
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17:34
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balrog |
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/487583/20130708/valve-hardware-ellsworth-management-firing-half-life.htm |
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17:40
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balrog |
http://jenesee.com/?p=941 |
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17:41
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winr4r |
hey, it's jeri ellsworth |
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17:42
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winr4r |
jeri is pretty awesome by any measure |
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18:39
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godane |
win4r: Here is Jeri Ellsworth interview on Triangulation: https://archive.org/details/Triangulation_3 |
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18:59
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godane |
the new GTA V game looks awesome |
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19:02
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underscor |
what's a fortnight again? |
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19:02
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underscor |
two weeks? |
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19:02
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godane |
yes |
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19:06
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ersi |
I wouldn't want to stay in a fort, over night |
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19:07
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winr4r |
godane: hey thanks! |
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19:08
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winr4r |
i really do admire jeri ellsworth |
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19:08
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winr4r |
any company culture that ends up getting rid of a jeri ellsworth is really, totally fucked and doomed |
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19:18
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godane |
now this is interesting: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Apple-Computer-Power-Mac-G4-In-Store-Demo-CD-ROM-v-2-Holiday-1999-Tower-/290713049363?hash=item43afd91913 |
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19:19
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godane |
its sadly $109.99 |
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19:41
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godane |
SketchCow: IBM PC Demo Reach For The Skies By Virgin: http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-PC-Demo-Reach-For-The-Skies-by-Virgin-/400515188547 |
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19:42
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godane |
i think you would want to get it |
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19:46
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DFJustin |
http://archive.org/details/ReachfortheSkies_1020 |
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21:03
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joepie91 |
SketchCow: if you ever plan on giving a talk somewhere in the Netherlands (or Belgium), be sure to let me know |
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21:04
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ersi |
joepie91: Are you coming to OHM? |
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21:11
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ersi |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nzD-QpmePE |
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21:19
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arkhive |
http://torrentfreak.com/shut-down-the-pirate-bay-founder-says-130708/ |
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21:23
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ersi |
Well, I think I understand what he's saying and I guess I sort of agree with him |
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21:23
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ersi |
But it's not shutting down just yet |
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21:24
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balrog |
he's saying that it needs to be replaced |
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21:29
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ersi |
In order for something better, more secure, to pop up and really get developed and continously maintained |
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21:29
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ersi |
Well, I guess I agree. But he's not involved with the operational part of TPB anymore, so it's just a statement - not a "We're shutting down!"-notice |
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21:37
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joepie91 |
ersi: I wasn't planning to, why? |
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21:38
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joepie91 |
arkhive: I think he's missing a vital point. |
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21:39
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joepie91 |
being that by shutting down TPB, it would just drive traffic to other sites. |
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21:39
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joepie91 |
using their audience to promote an alternative would be much much more effective |
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21:40
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dashcloud |
I think they want something to grow or promote itself out of the void |
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21:40
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joepie91 |
goes to show that ideas are not always compatible with reality |
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21:41
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joepie91 |
the chance of something just magically appearing with no backing at all and gaining a critical mass while no flaws in the current system are obvious to the majority of users |
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21:41
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joepie91 |
is close to zero |
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21:41
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joepie91 |
"why would I use that complicated thing? TPB works fine!" |
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21:41
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joepie91 |
if TPB goes down |
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21:41
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joepie91 |
"why would I use that complicated thing? kat.ph works fine!" |
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21:41
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joepie91 |
etc |
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21:50
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antomatic |
Have to agree - new things get created and thrive because they're better than the old thing - not because the old thing has gone |
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21:51
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antomatic |
No-one believes, for example, that Google could not have come along until Altavista shut down. And we know the reverse is true. |
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21:54
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antomatic |
Could probably have phrased that better. |
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21:55
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antomatic |
"Google didn't happen just because AltaVista shut down." |
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22:05
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ivan` |
existing supply can crowd out new supply |
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22:05
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ivan` |
people rightly perceive switching costs |
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22:09
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SketchCow |
Here's a conversation I've gotten sick of. |
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22:10
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SketchCow |
1. "We should scan in _____ because all the online copies suck." |
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22:10
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SketchCow |
2. 'But wait! Copyright! We will all go to jail." |
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22:10
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SketchCow |
3. "You're right, which is a shame, I have all the copies right here." |
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22:10
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SketchCow |
4. <5000 lines about how to scan things "right"> |
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22:10
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SketchCow |
Rather sick of said conversation. |
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22:14
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joepie91 |
SketchCow: whenever I end up in such a conversation, I usually just say "hey, I have this nice VPS in Romania where the host doesn't give a shit about what's hosted on it, if you'll just give me a pile of scans I'll make sure they end up somewhere nice" |
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22:14
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joepie91 |
it works most of the time. |
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22:56
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underscor |
Man, there really is something nice about a file downloading at 27MBps at your desk |
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22:57
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underscor |
Makes a sexy spike in the bandwidth graph for the switch, too |
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22:57
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DFJustin |
>:( |
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23:00
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underscor |
<3 |