#archiveteam-bs 2013-07-11,Thu

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02:15 πŸ”— Ravenloft http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/8610778/Regular.Show.S04E33.The.Last.Laserdisc.Player.PDTV.x264[mR12]
03:14 πŸ”— joepie91 hm
03:14 πŸ”— joepie91 I ran across this
03:14 πŸ”— joepie91 http://archive.org/details/InfiniteSkillsLearningPythonProgramming
03:15 πŸ”— joepie91 turns out that someone is using archive.org as a free warez host to drop their passworded zips on
03:15 πŸ”— joepie91 this, to be exact: http://engineering-lectures.blogspot.nl/2013/05/infinite-skills-learning-python.html
03:15 πŸ”— joepie91 not sure what should be done with something like that?
03:15 πŸ”— joepie91 cc SketchCow and underscor in particular
03:17 πŸ”— DFJustin lots of people do that, it'll get darked when an admin notices it
03:18 πŸ”— joepie91 hm, right.
03:22 πŸ”— DFJustin I threw the password on in a review so at least posterity will have it
03:34 πŸ”— joepie91 :)
03:34 πŸ”— joepie91 also, awesome set on afterhoursdjs.org right now
03:35 πŸ”— joepie91 I'll just link straight to the archived version
03:35 πŸ”— joepie91 http://archive.org/details/DJMash-D-Live_ElectroNight_28_with_Mash_D_from_Germany_HAPPY_NEW_YEAR-31Dec2010
03:35 πŸ”— joepie91 (it's being broadcast from the ahdjs liveset playlist..)
04:05 πŸ”— SketchCow ?
04:05 πŸ”— SketchCow We have people on it.
04:56 πŸ”— omf_ Its funny how catching up on sleep can cause headaches, ugh
05:02 πŸ”— omf_ and by funny I mean I need aspirin
05:08 πŸ”— BlueMax It's I need aspirin how catching up on sleep can cause headaches
06:15 πŸ”— GLaDOS hahahah suck yeahh
06:18 πŸ”— BlueMax GLaDOS, are you drunk again
06:18 πŸ”— GLaDOS sure
06:19 πŸ”— BlueMax can I have some
06:49 πŸ”— omf_ I wish I was drunk, I am doing more data recovery work and man is it boring
06:51 πŸ”— omf_ type a few commands, wait until it is done and the repeat
06:53 πŸ”— omf_ I should find a yak to shave
06:56 πŸ”— joepie91 heh
06:57 πŸ”— joepie91 omf: I've been thinking of ways to automate and parallelize common archiving projects such as disc recovery, scanning, etc.
06:57 πŸ”— joepie91 I haven't come up with much so far...
06:58 πŸ”— joepie91 my only real idea so far is to get some 20 canon LED scanners (which are like 30 euro each, and probably like 10-15 euro secondhand)
06:58 πŸ”— joepie91 and run all of them in parallel
06:58 πŸ”— joepie91 using some kind of usb hub contraption and a custom script that controls all of them simultaneously
06:58 πŸ”— omf_ for scanning using a professional grade camera can speed things up if you have a lightbox
06:59 πŸ”— omf_ then you have no flash artifacts and you still get high resolution
06:59 πŸ”— omf_ it does not work so well for glossy photos though
06:59 πŸ”— omf_ joepie91, you just gave me my answer. I can finish scanning while waiting for data recovery
07:00 πŸ”— joepie91 heh
07:00 πŸ”— joepie91 and I was more thinking about scanning comic books and such
07:00 πŸ”— joepie91 I like the result of flatbed scanning, quality-wise
07:01 πŸ”— joepie91 if it can be properly parallelized, you can get a decent speed out of it
07:10 πŸ”— omf_ woohoo just recovered another 25gb
13:53 πŸ”— SmileyG SO.... photos backed up by auto backup are instantly accessable if you can guess the URL.... Interesting.
13:53 πŸ”— SmileyG on Google+ ;)
13:53 πŸ”— SmileyG Have fun googling tht guys
13:53 πŸ”— SmileyG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0PYt5rpIhuQ/Ud6r4W2eTqI/AAAAAAAAUhU/vrxfU4MVITw/w741-h578-no/20130711_135605_Clifford+Bridge+Rd-1.jpg example url
14:11 πŸ”— winr4r if you can guess the URL
14:11 πŸ”— winr4r "0PYt5rpIhuQ" alone is 62^11 combinations
14:18 πŸ”— BlueMax I was about to say
15:15 πŸ”— godane so i found some old discs i have
15:20 πŸ”— godane i also found a aol disc
15:21 πŸ”— godane just know its aol 9.0
15:21 πŸ”— godane 1099 hours free
15:29 πŸ”— SketchCow godane, the tireless warrior
15:30 πŸ”— godane there are more disks too
15:30 πŸ”— godane mp3 underground disc is one of them
15:30 πŸ”— godane some pc magazine disks
15:31 πŸ”— godane red hat unleashed
15:31 πŸ”— godane a earth link sprint toal access disk
15:32 πŸ”— godane britannica 2003 deluxe edition (2 discs set)
15:33 πŸ”— godane a complet idiot's guide to create a web page
15:33 πŸ”— godane and kellogs cd of atlantis the lost empile search for the journal
15:34 πŸ”— godane the aol disc is in a metal tin too
15:34 πŸ”— godane with 10 free games
15:55 πŸ”— DFJustin http://www.polygon.com/2013/7/11/4513294/nintendo-were-trying-to-shut-down-evo-not-just-super-smash-bros-melee
16:05 πŸ”— SketchCow Oh, Nintendo.
16:05 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/the-internet-archives-open-library-is-violating-authors-copyrights/
16:14 πŸ”— omf_ Am I the only one who found the comments more insightful on that article than the drivel that was the article?
16:15 πŸ”— omf_ "You and the perspectives expressed here represent most of what needs to be fixed about existing Copyright law. I have the feeling from reading this piece that youҀ™re philosophically also against the very idea of libraries, and possibly the First Sale Doctrine. The solution isnҀ™t to try to shut down the libraries, but to repair the laws."
16:15 πŸ”— Tephra "ItҀ™s not just the Open Library; the Internet Archive itself is a copyright infringement lawsuit waiting to happen."
16:17 πŸ”— omf_ I always skip the first post, it is usually junk
16:17 πŸ”— BlueMax would the words "come at me bro" be relevant here?
16:18 πŸ”— omf_ yes
16:19 πŸ”— BlueMax ahem
16:20 πŸ”— BlueMax COME AT US BRO
16:21 πŸ”— Tephra omf_: yes you are right
16:21 πŸ”— omf_ I like how a non-profit trying to create a universal knowledge repository is the problem when the regular piracy problem has no real solution. Please fuck over the good guys, it doesn't make you look really fucking dumb
16:22 πŸ”— omf_ Tephra, I learned that habit on slashdot with the constant "First Post" responses
16:26 πŸ”— godane the whole point of the internet is that it can repair itself
16:27 πŸ”— godane so in theory the fight againist pirates will never win
16:27 πŸ”— godane *never stop
16:28 πŸ”— omf_ I agree godane it was the same before the internet. I could take a shiny new blank cassette tape and copy off the radio or copy a record or copy another tape
16:32 πŸ”— godane i'm close to getting all of wilkow single episodes of june
16:33 πŸ”— godane paywalls are another from of censorship
16:34 πŸ”— winr4r no, they're not
16:34 πŸ”— godane i say in a sort of way
16:34 πŸ”— godane the internet routes around damage
16:34 πŸ”— winr4r you're arguing that anything that isn't giving stuff away completely unrestricted for free is censorship
16:35 πŸ”— winr4r i mean, if you want to make that point, go ahead, but that's reeeeally stretching the word
16:35 πŸ”— godane i know
16:36 πŸ”— godane but paywalls are sort of censorship in that some stuff is in the usa but for sale else where
16:36 πŸ”— godane netflix for example
16:41 πŸ”— winr4r in any case, what openlibrary is doing isn't drastically different from what other libraries are doing with digitised works, as i understand it
16:42 πŸ”— winr4r as in digital lending and yadayada
16:43 πŸ”— omf_ I am really against paywalls for academic papers especially ones that come from universities that are funded by tax money
16:45 πŸ”— winr4r omf_: eh, with no tax money i'm against it when the price is what no reasonable individual would be willing to pay
16:45 πŸ”— winr4r or when subscribing as an individual isn't even possible
16:45 πŸ”— omf_ reasonable prices are something these people have never heard of
16:45 πŸ”— omf_ They bundle shit with what you want so you have to pay more
16:45 πŸ”— omf_ when subscribing as an individual isn't even possible <-- this is the fucking worst
16:46 πŸ”— Tephra omf_: with you there
16:46 πŸ”— omf_ It's like 'You won't let me pay you for something you are selling?'
16:46 πŸ”— winr4r the gatekeeper mentality is awesome
16:47 πŸ”— winr4r in unrelated news, someone should tell me what the catch is here: http://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/kimsufi.xml
16:47 πŸ”— Tephra as a student that has access to a lot of shit i'm happy to help if anyone needs something
16:47 πŸ”— winr4r apparently, actual dedicated atom servers for £10.79 a month, what
16:47 πŸ”— joepie91 SketchCow, omf_, I find it interesting how one of the conclusions in that teleread article is that "the intro text in the book says you can't reproduce, so IA is violating copyright law"
16:48 πŸ”— joepie91 because apparently intro texts are now written laws?
16:48 πŸ”— winr4r joepie91: yeah, that person obviously put a lot of thought into that piece
16:48 πŸ”— joepie91 never mind that things such as fair use exist
16:48 πŸ”— joepie91 and other exceptions
16:49 πŸ”— joepie91 also, winr4r
16:49 πŸ”— joepie91 OVH does deliver what they promise
16:49 πŸ”— joepie91 the catch is that 99% of OVH is automated
16:49 πŸ”— joepie91 if your server is broken, they have an automated alert system and it'll be fixed without any tickets etc
16:49 πŸ”— joepie91 that does mean that if you _do_ need human support, it's often slow and spotty
16:50 πŸ”— winr4r joepie91: gotcha
16:50 πŸ”— joepie91 but their network is good, their reliability is good, their automatic systems work 99% of the time
16:50 πŸ”— joepie91 just don't get DDoS
16:50 πŸ”— joepie91 well actually
16:50 πŸ”— joepie91 that may have changed
16:50 πŸ”— joepie91 they introduced network-wide DDoS mitigation I think
16:50 πŸ”— joepie91 or are about to do so
16:50 πŸ”— winr4r or have archive team decide to download you? :)
16:50 πŸ”— joepie91 that might trigger it, not sure
16:50 πŸ”— joepie91 anyway, OVH is basically just a bit odd
16:50 πŸ”— joepie91 but if you don't cause problems, they deliver exactly what they claim
16:51 πŸ”— joepie91 it's the ryanair of dedicated servers, really
16:51 πŸ”— winr4r gotcha :)
16:51 πŸ”— godane winr4r: i was thinking from a network idea that paywall is censorship
16:52 πŸ”— godane where 200 status codes ment to be
16:52 πŸ”— joepie91 winr4r: also, from a practical experience point of view
16:52 πŸ”— godane or something
16:52 πŸ”— joepie91 if you just use it for your own stuff you're fine
16:52 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
16:52 πŸ”— joepie91 but don't try to host other people on it
16:52 πŸ”— joepie91 that goes for all of OVH, not just Kimsufi
16:52 πŸ”— joepie91 quite a few hosts have learnt that the hard way
16:53 πŸ”— joepie91 if $random_other_user does something shitty on your server, then your box will go down, you'll get an FTP login to grab your data and gtfo, and it's entirely your problem
16:53 πŸ”— joepie91 think network attacks and such
16:53 πŸ”— joepie91 but I doubt they'd care about archiving
16:54 πŸ”— winr4r joepie91: or if their wordpress install gets turned into a pharmaceutical-selling machine or something, yeah
16:54 πŸ”— joepie91 unless you're unlucky enough to have it trigger the DDoS detection thingie, but I suspect that system will be turned off when ddos mitigation is rolled out network-wide
16:54 πŸ”— joepie91 winr4r: well, for wordpress not so much
16:54 πŸ”— omf_ Does OVH have tools so you can monitor your network usage
16:54 πŸ”— joepie91 from what I've seen they basically take the approach that "mistakes happen once and only once"
16:54 πŸ”— omf_ or is that self setup
16:54 πŸ”— winr4r they're not gonna work too hard to keep you on board, is what i was getting at
16:54 πŸ”— winr4r joepie91: yeah, that :)
16:54 πŸ”— winr4r thanks joepie91
16:54 πŸ”— joepie91 omf_: _theoretically_ they keep track of your traffic
16:54 πŸ”— joepie91 except two caveats
16:55 πŸ”— joepie91 1. traffic within OVH (the majority of seedbox traffic and such) is not counted
16:55 πŸ”— joepie91 2. their traffic counting is highly inaccurate, sometimes with a factor of 20
16:55 πŸ”— joepie91 but their throttling mechanism uses the same traffic counting system
16:55 πŸ”— joepie91 so generally as long as your traffic counter doesn't show an overage you'll be fine
16:56 πŸ”— joepie91 (and with inaccurate I mean it sometimes only counts 1/10th or 1/20th of what you've actually used)
16:56 πŸ”— winr4r a friend of mine had something like that happen on one of those "pile 'em high" VPS hosts
16:56 πŸ”— joepie91 (the unaccuracies are always in your favor)
16:56 πŸ”— joepie91 <winr4r>they're not gonna work too hard to keep you on board, is what i was getting at
16:56 πŸ”— joepie91 exactly
16:56 πŸ”— winr4r they cut him off with no warning and no recourse after a DDoS
16:56 πŸ”— joepie91 they're huge and automated
16:56 πŸ”— joepie91 one lost customer is not a disaster to them
16:56 πŸ”— joepie91 yeah
16:56 πŸ”— joepie91 which is fine as long as you are aware of this
16:56 πŸ”— joepie91 and know what you're getting into
16:57 πŸ”— * winr4r nods
16:57 πŸ”— joepie91 OVH boxes are great for testing setups and raw data processint
16:57 πŸ”— joepie91 processing *
16:57 πŸ”— joepie91 because cheap dedicated resources
16:57 πŸ”— winr4r or just hosting a bunch of static files, which is my use case
16:57 πŸ”— joepie91 you could also host sites off it although you'll probably want to reverse proxy it through a more lenient host
16:57 πŸ”— joepie91 if it's likely to attract any kind of trouble
16:57 πŸ”— winr4r nah, a blog writing about interesting things, i'm not controversial or prominent enough to DDoS
16:58 πŸ”— joepie91 should probably be fine unless you plan on becoming the next wikileaks
16:58 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
16:58 πŸ”— joepie91 right
16:58 πŸ”— joepie91 also, another caveat: they only do CC, no paypal
16:59 πŸ”— winr4r i can deal with that i think
16:59 πŸ”— winr4r thanks for the advice :)
17:00 πŸ”— joepie91 np
17:01 πŸ”— joepie91 also, good news, I might be making an effort at archiving 4chan in the near future
17:01 πŸ”— joepie91 as in, 4chan entirely
17:02 πŸ”— winr4r joepie91: i can see why you'd do it, but isn't ephemerality part of the appeal of 4chan?
17:05 πŸ”— godane some one get this: https://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7050943/WikiLeaks_Insurance_release_02-22-2012
17:06 πŸ”— joepie91 winr4r: in a way, yes
17:07 πŸ”— omf_ 4chan already has numerous archives on the net so the idea shit goes away is just not true anymore
17:10 πŸ”— DFJustin godane: just upload the .torrent file as an IA item and IA will grab it
17:11 πŸ”— DFJustin they have an older insurance file but not that one it seems https://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Awikileaksarchive&sort=-publicdate
17:11 πŸ”— godane oh
17:11 πŸ”— joepie91 <DFJustin>godane: just upload the .torrent file as an IA item and IA will grab it
17:11 πŸ”— joepie91 huh? really?
17:12 πŸ”— godane the piratebay is going to IA
17:12 πŸ”— godane :-D
17:12 πŸ”— DFJustin I think it gives up if it takes too long, but in general yes
17:13 πŸ”— DFJustin I haven't used it personally because all the stuff I grab needs to be cleaned up (extracted from .rar etc) before upload
17:13 πŸ”— BlueMax <godane> the piratebay is going to IA
17:14 πŸ”— BlueMax wait what?
17:16 πŸ”— DFJustin strictly speaking it already went https://archive.org/details/Backup_of_The_Pirate_Bay_32xxxxx-to-79xxxxx
17:18 πŸ”— godane i got that i think uploaded
17:18 πŸ”— godane also i think ftp is not working
17:18 πŸ”— DFJustin someone did a newer one too https://archive.org/details/PirateBayComplete20130219
17:19 πŸ”— godane and i was going to upload that
17:19 πŸ”— godane DFJustin: i uploaded that one
17:20 πŸ”— godane the first link
17:26 πŸ”— DFJustin nice
18:10 πŸ”— joepie91 oh
18:10 πŸ”— joepie91 actually
18:10 πŸ”— joepie91 #archiveteam stuff
18:10 πŸ”— joepie91 not bs
18:31 πŸ”— DFJustin https://twitter.com/teapartynation/status/355364617746268163
18:33 πŸ”— SketchCow Well, that's a lot of people saying nothing.
18:33 πŸ”— winr4r yeah, i was pretty much thinking that
18:33 πŸ”— * SketchCow is scanning in newsletters, uploading files, and watching Cowboy BeBop
18:33 πŸ”— SketchCow So three things at once.
18:33 πŸ”— winr4r what a goat rodeo
18:33 πŸ”— winr4r SketchCow: awesome
18:34 πŸ”— Aranje woot
18:34 πŸ”— Aranje DFJustin:) why did you link that, I will never get that time back
18:35 πŸ”— SketchCow You did it, you destroyed 15 minutes of human life
18:35 πŸ”— SketchCow you killed a quarter of an hour of a person
18:36 πŸ”— winr4r he's like 3.5x10^-3000 of a murderer
18:39 πŸ”— DFJustin I dunno it's just funny watching someone trying to call @YesYoureRacist a racist
18:39 πŸ”— winr4r i sentence you to nine tenths of a second in prison
18:39 πŸ”— winr4r DFJustin: no, not really
18:40 πŸ”— DFJustin everyone's sense of humour is different!
18:40 πŸ”— winr4r it was a bunch of people from both sides throwing invective at each other
19:16 πŸ”— SmileyG poo throwing? Can I join in?
19:18 πŸ”— winr4r sup SmileyG
19:18 πŸ”— * omf_ flings bag of flaming poo at SmileyG's front door
19:18 πŸ”— omf_ I am 13 again!
19:19 πŸ”— SmileyG hey winr4r
19:19 πŸ”— Aranje usually the bag is on fire, not the poo
19:19 πŸ”— Aranje I am interested in your process
19:21 πŸ”— SmileyG damnit my pouet upload failed
20:00 πŸ”— Schbirid https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6020279 no words...
20:02 πŸ”— SmileyG Schbirid: did you know your google+ autouploaded photos are public?
20:02 πŸ”— SmileyG "your" being the user's
20:02 πŸ”— SmileyG just need to guess the URL.
20:02 πŸ”— * SmileyG waits for this to appear somewhere in a few weeks
20:02 πŸ”— Schbirid nice
20:03 πŸ”— SmileyG I haven't looked at how the URL's are built, that stuff is beyond me
20:03 πŸ”— SmileyG but yup, public \o/
20:03 πŸ”— winr4r oh my god
20:03 πŸ”— winr4r you are fucking kidding me
20:04 πŸ”— SmileyG winr4r: go to your autobackups
20:04 πŸ”— SmileyG get the image url
20:04 πŸ”— SmileyG paste it here, I'll tell you what the image is
20:04 πŸ”— winr4r autobackups of what
20:04 πŸ”— SmileyG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0PYt5rpIhuQ/Ud6r4W2eTqI/AAAAAAAAUhU/vrxfU4MVITw/w741-h578-no/20130711_135605_Clifford+Bridge+Rd-1.jpg <<< I haven't shared this anywhere
20:04 πŸ”— SmileyG It is "just" auto-backed up to G+
20:04 πŸ”— winr4r and by "you are fucking kidding me" i was talking about Schbirid's link
20:04 πŸ”— winr4r that is just amazing
20:04 πŸ”— SmileyG winr4r: mine is more fun
20:05 πŸ”— Schbirid SmileyG: congrats, you are pregnant!
20:05 πŸ”— winr4r SmileyG: no, yours requires guessing a 62^44 key *and* the filename
20:05 πŸ”— SmileyG depends how random that key is
20:05 πŸ”— Schbirid "just" https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0PYt5rpIhuQ/Ud6r4W2eTqI/AAAAAAAAUhU/vrxfU4MVITw/ but yeah that seems "secure"
20:05 πŸ”— Schbirid as in as secure as it can be
20:05 πŸ”— SmileyG security via obscruity? really?
20:06 πŸ”— Schbirid sure
20:06 πŸ”— SmileyG Schbirid: why is it publically accessable _AT ALL_?
20:06 πŸ”— Schbirid because google+ :P
20:06 πŸ”— SmileyG Schbirid: your link says you need the timestamp of the recording?
20:06 πŸ”— SmileyG thats HARDER ?
20:06 πŸ”— Schbirid nah, check out the rest of the comments
20:06 πŸ”— Schbirid it is as easy as grep and wget
20:06 πŸ”— omf_ yeah I just got off yahoo services and next is google.
20:07 πŸ”— SmileyG Schbirid: :D
20:07 πŸ”— omf_ I am moving all my photos over to deviant art
20:07 πŸ”— Schbirid "Me, looking gloomy" :P
20:07 πŸ”— SmileyG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0Ka4fiUM50A/UHP_eldVVcI/AAAAAAAAMW8/fA37MOI2qcQ/s899-h/%E6%A7%8D%E3%83%B6%E5%B2%B3%EF%BD%9E%E7%A9%82%E9%AB%98%E5%B2%B3
20:08 πŸ”— SmileyG https://www.google.co.uk/#safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&q=site:lh3.googleusercontent.com%2F&oq=site:lh3.googleusercontent.com%2F&gs_l=serp.3...6635.6635.0.6837.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c.1.19.psy-ab.RVvy_65UhaQ&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=af3eb650b602e21b&biw=1063&bih=909
20:08 πŸ”— SmileyG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jdegSAlqvLs/T-mww2W2qzI/AAAAAAAAAuA/LzoQeKvhJgo/s1600-h/DSCF1489.jpgsite << hope they had a nice wedding.
20:08 πŸ”— omf_ This is my current mood http://doblelol.com/uploads/28/funny-wallpaper-rabit-desktop-wallpapers.jpg
20:09 πŸ”— winr4r SmileyG: using 62^44 possible things is not security by obscurity
20:10 πŸ”— underscor Private facebook photos are public too
20:10 πŸ”— DFJustin yeah by the sounds of it the voice mail thing = lol, google photos = no problem demonstrated
20:10 πŸ”— SmileyG winr4r: it's not?
20:10 πŸ”— underscor If you get the fbcdn link
20:10 πŸ”— underscor I don't see any issue with the google thing
20:10 πŸ”— underscor But the fact they have keylisting on for their bucket
20:10 πŸ”— underscor is a big whoops
20:10 πŸ”— SmileyG underscor: I just think it should be known.
20:11 πŸ”— winr4r SmileyG: if we're talking about g+, it's not, even at one trillion attempts a second, and one billion trillion files distributed across that key space, you're still talking many billions of years before brute forcing would find anything
20:11 πŸ”— omf_ okay here is a test
20:11 πŸ”— underscor no, I agree
20:11 πŸ”— omf_ https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1048680_10103184723884725_350226696_o.jpg
20:11 πŸ”— omf_ this is a valid url
20:11 πŸ”— SmileyG for example, the fact my pregnancy photos got uploaded today :D
20:11 πŸ”— omf_ do it
20:11 πŸ”— Schbirid omf_: http://pixelgirlpresents.com/images/desktops/Scott_Jackson/homewardbound_1024.jpg
20:11 πŸ”— SmileyG underscor: the odd thing is if you move them to a album, they are then private by default, until you share that album
20:11 πŸ”— winr4r on the other hand
20:11 πŸ”— SmileyG but for some reason the "backup" album is public, and you can't seemingly change it (I can't see it listed as one of my albums).
20:12 πŸ”— winr4r SmileyG: oh, wat
20:12 πŸ”— DFJustin the bigger privacy issue with fb photos is that given a filename you can load the profile and determine the user's real name
20:12 πŸ”— winr4r i was about to say, all the other systems around that, are just a fucking privacy disaster waiting to happen
20:12 πŸ”— SmileyG yup, it's NOT in my album list, I presume it's hidden some how.,
20:12 πŸ”— SmileyG but they forgot to make sure it's private too
20:12 πŸ”— winr4r DFJustin: not a problem imo
20:12 πŸ”— Schbirid aww, facebook profile ids are not in the url anymore?
20:12 πŸ”— SmileyG Normally to share a photo, you'd create a post for said photo, or put it in an album and share that.
20:12 πŸ”— omf_ Schbirid, https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3197/3141220334_2684d5fd25_b.jpg
20:12 πŸ”— winr4r if you're trying to hide from someone, don't fucking post pictures of yourself
20:13 πŸ”— DFJustin well your idiot friends can post photos of you
20:13 πŸ”— SmileyG winr4r: of course.
20:13 πŸ”— winr4r DFJustin: yeah, if you're trying to keep identities separate, keep them separate
20:13 πŸ”— DFJustin or you can repost a picture trying to be clever because your face is out of frame
20:14 πŸ”— Schbirid omf_: http://i.imgur.com/g7CIaxw.jpg
20:14 πŸ”— winr4r people who violate boundaries between identities in any way, while trying to keep them separate, will find some *other* way of unveiling who they are
20:14 πŸ”— DFJustin I mean obviously if you're real up on this stuff you would know the risks but I think the average person would not expect that
20:15 πŸ”— omf_ Schbirid, yeah I went there www.justsaypictures.com/images/happy-dog-02.jpg
20:15 πŸ”— Schbirid :D
20:15 πŸ”— omf_ :D
20:15 πŸ”— winr4r DFJustin: yup, and the average person might not expect that the same image could be fed into tineye/google image search, if they violate boundaries between identities it's basically inevitable that they're going to fuck up in some way that is not facebook filenames
20:16 πŸ”— DFJustin like I've personally seen 4chan threads where people post pictures of their hot friend/cousin/whatever only to have people later in the thread dig up their real name and info
20:16 πŸ”— omf_ I have seen that too
20:17 πŸ”— SmileyG right, i think today I might actually move onto my new HDD :D
20:17 πŸ”— SmileyG well HDDs
20:17 πŸ”— DFJustin which you usually can't do with just tineye because the photos are not public on fb
20:17 πŸ”— winr4r DFJustin: or people posting *other* peoples' stuff in the hope that someone will figure out shit from the filenames, etc
20:18 πŸ”— DFJustin it's only a matter of time before someone makes a practical face search engine but until then facebook should at least try to obfuscate
20:18 πŸ”— SmileyG well dang, I don't exist on tineye
20:18 πŸ”— winr4r DFJustin: i see the merit in your point, thinking about it
20:19 πŸ”— SmileyG well google facetaging is really quite impressive.
20:19 πŸ”— SmileyG I was very impressed at some of the angles it has learn to identify me at
20:20 πŸ”— godane g4tv.com-video3502: Ballmer 1: https://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video3502
20:21 πŸ”— godane i have a 4 part intervew with ballmer up
20:21 πŸ”— DFJustin if they used the md5sum as the filename for example then you would get no information other than what you would have from just the photo
21:09 πŸ”— omf_ just recovered 7gb :P
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