#archiveteam-bs 2013-09-02,Mon

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03:15 πŸ”— dashcloud http://inspiringtechquotes.info/ The industry's best and brightest here folks :)
03:19 πŸ”— omf_ lol Clown quotes is how I see it
04:12 πŸ”— Aranje oh my god
04:12 πŸ”— Aranje that was so bad
04:13 πŸ”— omf_ dashcloud, keep that comedy gold coming. I love subversive comedy like that
04:22 πŸ”— dashcloud glad you liked it
04:26 πŸ”— BiggeJohn looks like a SXSW flyer
06:08 πŸ”— godane hey mistym
06:08 πŸ”— godane did you get anything back from the WGHB archives?
06:25 πŸ”— mistym godane: Oh, apparently I missed the email. Unfortunately, the answer is a no. :/
06:26 πŸ”— godane oh
06:26 πŸ”— godane did they give a good reason?
06:27 πŸ”— mistym Yeah, rights issues - a lot of 3rd parties who hold partial rights to the film or performances in it
06:27 πŸ”— godane oh
06:27 πŸ”— mistym So, I guess the reason it's not on their *own* site is because they don't fully own it
06:28 πŸ”— godane oh
06:28 πŸ”— godane that sucks
06:28 πŸ”— godane they why go after it then?
06:29 πŸ”— mistym Yeah, I dunno. That part seems silly to me but I can't really get into the heavy rightsholder mindset, so
06:31 πŸ”— godane so couldn't that make it a fake dcma if they don't really own it?
06:32 πŸ”— godane cause if they can't hear cause of rights issues then they shouldn't be able to dcma it
06:33 πŸ”— mistym I don't know enough about the DMCA to say, but I guess if they own *part* of the rights, they can issue a takedown even though they can't give permission to distribute?
06:33 πŸ”— godane thats just stupid
06:34 πŸ”— mistym I agree
06:34 πŸ”— godane you should have the right to distribute it in order to take it down
06:35 πŸ”— mistym The way copyright law is set up really makes it so much easier to restrict access to content than to provide access to it
06:36 πŸ”— godane will copyright law was setup to prevent people from make money of the little people thur physically copying it
06:39 πŸ”— godane the only thing i can see is it was keep them from getting sued
06:39 πŸ”— godane by the 3rd parties
06:44 πŸ”— mistym Yeah, some kinda CYA would make sense, though I can't imagine why 3rd parties would sue over something they're not using either
06:45 πŸ”— mistym Γ£ΒƒΒ½Γ―ΒΌΒˆΓ‚Β΄Γ£ΒƒΒΌΓ―Β½Β€Γ―ΒΌΒ‰Γ’Β”ΒŒ But I guess that's how copyright works etc.
07:38 πŸ”— joepie93 <mistym>I don't know enough about the DMCA to say, but I guess if they own *part* of the rights, they can issue a takedown even though they can't give permission to distribute?
07:38 πŸ”— joepie93 this is correct afaik, and not specific to DMCA
07:49 πŸ”— godane so i'm grabbing another magazine
07:49 πŸ”— godane called flugzeug classic
07:50 πŸ”— godane its in german
08:21 πŸ”— godane so kevin pereira linked to this video on twitter: http://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video56892
08:21 πŸ”— BlueMax so yeah sorry for being an asshole SketchCow
08:21 πŸ”— godane good to know that he knows
08:21 πŸ”— godane BlueMax: i must have missed something
08:22 πŸ”— BlueMax don't worry
08:22 πŸ”— godane i was offline for 4 hours so early today
08:22 πŸ”— godane *tonight
08:22 πŸ”— godane so i got thegeeks.bz
08:22 πŸ”— godane and tv-vault.me
08:33 πŸ”— godane i'm grabbing theshow.bz forums now
08:35 πŸ”— godane at some point you going to have a collection just for bittorrent forums cause of me
08:35 πŸ”— godane that and theguardian.com dumps i have been doing
09:16 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: i think hak5 did interviews with people from the living computer museum
09:19 πŸ”— godane so i got theshow.bz forums
09:19 πŸ”— godane only 12mb btw
10:34 πŸ”— godane now this is good to know: http://web.archive.org/web/20120912024544/http://www.underground-gamer.com/forums.php?action=viewtopic&topicid=10111
10:35 πŸ”— godane One of our sexier staff members has just opened a new torrent tracker - the sharper-eyed amongst you may have already spotted the affiliate banner on the frontpage - dedicated to b-movies and other cinematic rarities. Γ‚ There's no minimum ratio just yet and at this early stage you'd be helping greatly by downloading, so head on over and start leeching, and don't forget to upload some b-movies of your own! :]
10:35 πŸ”— godane so cinemagedoom.org was created by a member of underground-gamer
10:36 πŸ”— norbert79 i could never understand closed trackers...
10:36 πŸ”— norbert79 There is DHT for years by now
10:36 πŸ”— norbert79 and open tracker servers too
10:36 πŸ”— norbert79 why limiting access?
10:47 πŸ”— Smiley hmmm
10:47 πŸ”— Smiley because you can pretend your "safe" on them
10:47 πŸ”— Smiley and eepeen of course ;D
10:47 πŸ”— Smiley I'm on TL now. fun times :)
10:47 πŸ”— norbert79 Right, doesn't make too much sense although :)
10:48 πŸ”— Smiley Not really no
10:48 πŸ”— Smiley but it's a good way of not getting the RIAA coming after you
10:48 πŸ”— norbert79 With plain sharing of your stuff through DHT is also hard to lure the RIAA on you
10:48 πŸ”— norbert79 maybe at the start
10:49 πŸ”— Smiley surely DHT is quite easily traced?
10:49 πŸ”— norbert79 DHT means no ceintral tracker
10:49 πŸ”— norbert79 central
10:49 πŸ”— norbert79 compared to closed trackers
10:49 πŸ”— norbert79 and the issue with closed trackers is, that they often disable the usage of DHT during release
10:49 πŸ”— Smiley yes, but the IP is still shared.
10:49 πŸ”— norbert79 so?
10:49 πŸ”— Smiley So thats how you're tracked
10:49 πŸ”— norbert79 And?
10:49 πŸ”— Smiley If it's open, anyone can connect.
10:50 πŸ”— norbert79 They can only see the transfer of data
10:50 πŸ”— Smiley to and from?
10:50 πŸ”— norbert79 not if I am fully downloading it, or if the content is the one I wish to use
10:50 πŸ”— norbert79 unless they download it themselves
10:50 πŸ”— Smiley yup
10:53 πŸ”— norbert79 http://cinemageddon.org/ -> This domain may be for sale. Buy this Domain
10:53 πŸ”— norbert79 didn't last long
10:53 πŸ”— norbert79 oh, nvm, the entry was in 2007
10:53 πŸ”— norbert79 my bad
11:10 πŸ”— godane its .net now
11:12 πŸ”— godane looks like torrentbytes.net came back
11:19 πŸ”— godane the other reason to be a private site is that you are funding by donates only
11:19 πŸ”— godane there are no ads on most private sites
11:19 πŸ”— Smiley tahts true, torrentleech claims it costs them 3000k euros a month
11:19 πŸ”— Smiley errrr 3k
11:19 πŸ”— Smiley not 3000k xD
11:24 πŸ”— norbert79 3000 Euros.. right.. a month.. my ass
11:24 πŸ”— norbert79 300 or even 1000 would be realistix
11:24 πŸ”— norbert79 realistic
11:25 πŸ”— BiggeJohn for a torrent server ? how much bandwidth can they use ?
11:25 πŸ”— norbert79 Are there any details on how those costs are appearing?
11:26 πŸ”— norbert79 detailed
14:15 πŸ”— Smiley GLaDOS: arou8nd?
14:15 πŸ”— GLaDOS yeah
14:20 πŸ”— godane so i'm mirroring a website about earthquakes
14:20 πŸ”— godane its http://nisquallyquake.wordpress.com/
16:17 πŸ”— Smiley ARRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DEBIAN
16:17 πŸ”— * Smiley screams
16:23 πŸ”— * Aranje beats smiley down because debian is awesome
16:23 πŸ”— Smiley # CONFIG_MODULES is not set
16:23 πŸ”— Aranje She's my fourth wife and I'll not have you speak to her in that manner
16:23 πŸ”— * Smiley cries
18:36 πŸ”— xmc godane: ohhh I remember that earthquake
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