#archiveteam-bs 2013-09-06,Fri

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00:37 🔗 omf_ godane, I got around to watching that Double Dare video you uploaded. It is good stuff.
01:54 🔗 yipdw omf_: Capybara, SFML, MXE come to recent memory for me
01:55 🔗 yipdw omf_: I also like Qt's documentation
01:59 🔗 BiggieJon and we have the first vote in the great regigious war of "open source"
02:01 🔗 yipdw what, Qt
02:02 🔗 BiggieJon i'm not programmer, I jsut watch from the sidelines
02:02 🔗 * yipdw shrugs
02:02 🔗 yipdw I didn't think anything I wrote was particularly heretical :P
02:03 🔗 yipdw I named all of those because I learned them all from their published manuals; no additional books etc required
02:03 🔗 yipdw occasionally peeking at source code, but that source code was documented too
02:03 🔗 BiggieJon where I work we run 4 different monitoring systems, because the devs cant agree on which open source project is "best"
02:03 🔗 yipdw what are their metrics for "best"
02:04 🔗 BiggieJon this particular minute ?
02:04 🔗 yipdw ha
02:04 🔗 yipdw I started using monit where I work and nobody really challenged it, so monit is the defacto monitoring tool
02:04 🔗 yipdw I guess de facto rule solves a lot of problems
02:06 🔗 BiggieJon we have slant, nagios, cacti, observium, and at least 2 others I cant even name, all I know is they are different and totally broken
02:06 🔗 BiggieJon I'm just a contractor what do I knw
02:06 🔗 yipdw you guys need a dictator
02:06 🔗 yipdw (seriously)
02:07 🔗 BiggieJon well, they are all <30, and live in India
02:07 🔗 BiggieJon what should explain a lot
02:07 🔗 BiggieJon I'm just the Us guy that has to keep their servers from catching fire
02:08 🔗 BiggieJon i love my job, i love my job,i love my job , i love my job ,i love my job
02:09 🔗 yipdw so, actually, they only have one monitoring system
02:09 🔗 yipdw you
02:10 🔗 BiggieJon ya, funny how with 6 differemt systems, I can still walk thru the server rows and find at least 5 boxes with some error scrolling across the display, and yet 0 errors in the monitoring system
02:13 🔗 omf_ yipdw, you are the third person I asked who said QT and I happen to agree with that point
02:13 🔗 yipdw omf_: it's pretty good :)
02:14 🔗 yipdw omf_: I particularly like the Qt Scene Graph docs; they explain a lot about how it works with Qt Declarative and OpenGL
02:15 🔗 yipdw I think one thing that helps is that the Qt API (well, Qt 5 at least) is pretty clean and consistent, so you don't need to have a crutch on the docs
02:15 🔗 omf_ Yeah good docs can't really make up too much for poor API design decisions
02:16 🔗 yipdw come to think of it, all the projects I named have docs that I use the least
02:16 🔗 yipdw hmm
02:17 🔗 yipdw I think one could also make an argument that OpenGL 1.1/2.0 is pretty good, it's just massive
02:17 🔗 omf_ I own the redbook
02:17 🔗 yipdw 3.0+ introduced a shaders-do-everything model that I'm still not really a fan of
02:18 🔗 omf_ Yeah shaders have gotten out of control
02:19 🔗 omf_ Direct3D pushed that shit hard, so did nvidia
02:19 🔗 BiggieJon I jsut added 2 nVidia telsa K20 cards to a server for our devs
02:19 🔗 yipdw A. why do they need those
02:19 🔗 yipdw B. can I get them
02:19 🔗 BiggieJon I have no idea what they are doing with them
02:20 🔗 BiggieJon but all I could think was WTF why dont these have vdieo outouts
02:20 🔗 omf_ password cracking? prime number factoring?
02:21 🔗 BiggieJon that part of the company does something similar to google adsense
02:21 🔗 yipdw linear algebra on huge matrices, I guess
02:21 🔗 BiggieJon that have gobs of money to blow on anything THEY want
02:22 🔗 BiggieJon backup server, uhhhn whats the cheapest thing we can cobble together
02:22 🔗 yipdw Raspberry Pi with USB drives
02:22 🔗 BiggieJon shhhhh ndont give them any ideas
02:23 🔗 BiggieJon after 2 years of 200+ servers runnign with no backup other then redundancy, what did we buy
02:23 🔗 BiggieJon yep, an LTO tape drive
02:24 🔗 BiggieJon I'm doing to shoot myself now
02:24 🔗 BiggieJon could be worse I guess, DLT would have been cheaper
02:28 🔗 BiggieJon Qt looks interesting, pretty extensive framework
02:40 🔗 omf_ Qt has evolved much better than gtk. I gave up once I saw what the 3 series turned out to be
02:41 🔗 BiggieJon a lot of bitcoin clients are based on Qt
02:41 🔗 omf_ Qt's cross platform support is fantastic
02:41 🔗 Aranje yup, and they look pretty decent
02:41 🔗 omf_ that for me is the major selling factor
02:41 🔗 Aranje it's even got a networking library (murmur, mumble's server end uses it)
02:48 🔗 omf_ Speaking of classical music
02:48 🔗 omf_ I found some good single piano player versions of Vivaldi's 4 seasons on youtube
02:49 🔗 omf_ I only listened to winter and summer so far but they are solid
02:52 🔗 dashcloud I should probably listen to the Open Goldberg variations CD I got from the Kickstarter campaign of similar name
02:55 🔗 omf_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZpTzOaiEe4
02:55 🔗 omf_ that is Winter
02:55 🔗 omf_ I have been listening to 2 new beethoven cds a day
02:56 🔗 Aranje thank you, youtube, for putting katt williams videos in the sidebar of vivaldi
02:56 🔗 omf_ I got that 100 cd collection box set at a used bookstore
02:57 🔗 omf_ Aranje, :(
02:58 🔗 Aranje omf_:) actually that's a positive thing. I've yet to find classical I like, so it made the page entertaining at least >_>
03:00 🔗 BlueMax do any of you guys know what a Hanimex SD-070 is/have a need or want for one? friend of mine has one
03:01 🔗 * Aranje hopes someday someone will find classical he likes -- hasn't happened yet
03:02 🔗 DFJustin https://archive.org/details/iuma-john_michel_cello
03:08 🔗 * Aranje sighs
17:10 🔗 DFJustin spoiler alert https://archive.org/details/wonderfulwizardo00baumiala
18:13 🔗 godane is search having some problem on IA?
18:14 🔗 godane i only say that cause the computersandtechvideos collection is acting like its a new collection
18:14 🔗 godane i get his on this when looking at collection link [Computersandtechvideos collection]
18:24 🔗 joepie93 godane: try refreshuing
18:24 🔗 joepie93 er
18:24 🔗 joepie93 refreshing
18:25 🔗 godane its still doing that
18:26 🔗 godane also subcollections are yellow theme instead of the normal blue
18:28 🔗 joepie93 :/
18:28 🔗 joepie93 that sounds like more serious breakage
18:29 🔗 DFJustin it does that every once in a while, I think it's just a hiccup in one of the cache thingies and not worth worrrying about
18:29 🔗 godane ok
18:33 🔗 joepie93 http://anonnews.org/static/future
18:33 🔗 joepie93 hum
23:39 🔗 omf_ ⁀⊙﹏☉⁀
23:42 🔗 mistym omf_: ⁀⊙^☉⁀
23:44 🔗 omf_ ヽ(｀Д´)ノ　(д´ノ)　ヽ(　　　)ノ　(ヽ´△) ヽ(´△`)ﾉ
23:45 🔗 omf_ 〈(゜。゜)
23:45 🔗 mistym (ﾉಠヮಠ)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧
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23:47 🔗 omf_ hmm everyone might not have good enough font support for that
23:47 🔗 mistym I felt like that yesterday
23:48 🔗 omf_ ( ￣┏＿┓￣)
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