#archiveteam-bs 2013-10-22,Tue

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00:15 🔗 Gen_Otmin http://youtu.be/NVg7nmNYfys
00:20 🔗 phillipsj how come few website use automatic content negotiation?
00:21 🔗 phillipsj Being asked to set my language preferences is one of my pet peves.
00:22 🔗 qial_ My first guess would be SEO-wise, its better to have separate content trees for language options, and doing that automatically requires more work
00:23 🔗 phillipsj depends whose work you are counting :P
00:24 🔗 qial_ Second is, do browsers tend to automatically set the Accept-Language header? I would assume most non-technical users aren't going to have set that up.
00:25 🔗 phillipsj The debian website implements it, and leaves a hint about that at the bottom of most pages.
00:25 🔗 phillipsj Though I suppose Debian users can be expected to be a little more tech-savy.
00:25 🔗 qial_ yeah, your grandma likely isn't visiting Debian :)
00:26 🔗 qial_ For more general consumer sites, my assumption is that most visitors would be more confused about it not asking and automatically choosing whatever the browser sends.
00:27 🔗 DFJustin lots of people use an OS that doesn't match their preferred language
00:29 🔗 phillipsj Automatic content negotiation does not require a binary choice: you rate your language preferences on a scale of 0..1
00:29 🔗 DFJustin also a lot of people that may prefer a non-english language in the abstract don't like being shunted into a poorly maintained ghetto version of the site
00:30 🔗 DFJustin I guess the real answer is that browser vendors should be more proactive about getting users to set it up properly
00:31 🔗 DFJustin then content providers could be more confident in it
00:54 🔗 joepie91 <DFJustin>also a lot of people that may prefer a non-english language in the abstract don't like being shunted into a poorly maintained ghetto version of the site
00:54 🔗 joepie91 so much this
03:48 🔗 yipdw wow
03:48 🔗 yipdw so I was reading http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/01/aaron-swartz-memorial-jstor-liberator-sets-public-domain-academic-articles-free/
03:48 🔗 yipdw Ars Technica is full of wankers
03:50 🔗 yipdw for that matter, aaronsw.archiveteam.org appears to be down
05:39 🔗 godane i'm grabbing lddb.com laserdisc collection
05:40 🔗 godane its also grabbing all images off of these numbers
05:41 🔗 godane there are only 00001 to 53213 numbers
12:17 🔗 BlueMax does someone want to fill me in on the secret word business? I can't say I ever found out what it was about
12:35 🔗 ersi It's to create an account on the wiki. Instead of captchas, which are broken and will let bots through.
12:59 🔗 phillipsj for the xkcd forum captcha, I had to use a paint program to increase the contrast to read it: a bot wouldn't notice the low contrast due to the limited number of colours (8 bit pallate I believe)
17:46 🔗 odie5533 phillipsj: bots could easily raise the contrast on it
18:14 🔗 phillipsj To a bot, contrast does not exist, It is simply up to 256 different colours
18:14 🔗 phillipsj you need a lossy compression format to take advantage of poor contrast.
18:15 🔗 M1das put the images in a tiff file
18:15 🔗 M1das it would piss me off
18:43 🔗 Schbirid how big is an average flac for a random music song?
18:52 🔗 Schbirid random sample of 50 tracks says 26mb
18:56 🔗 Schbirid so jamendo in FLAC would be about 12 TB
19:22 🔗 mistym What's the best way to extract bin/cue stuff in Linux?
19:24 🔗 Schbirid mistym: i like bchunk for that
19:26 🔗 mistym Schbirid: Thanks!
19:26 🔗 mistym Aw, bchunk doesn't figure out for itself where the bin is from the cuesheet?
23:45 🔗 dashcloud for those using KDE on Linux, what distro are you using? I've got to reinstall anyway, so it would be a good time to change things up

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