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00:10
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: not using KDE, but supposedly openSUSE still has very good KDE support/integration (even though afaik they switched main environment to GNOME a while ago) |
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00:10
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dashcloud |
thanks! |
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00:18
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* |
phillipsj likes the knoppix live DVD |
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00:19
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godane |
SketchCow: i'm starting to upload scam school |
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00:51
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SketchCow |
Great |
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00:52
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* |
phillipsj still hasn't migrated off Yahoo! |
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00:54
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phillipsj |
I was afraid to tell them I disagreed with their new TOS about 5 years ago. For that reason, I did not bother paying them for pop/IMAP access to get my e-mail. |
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01:31
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blergh |
joepie91: you around? |
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01:31
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joepie91 |
blergh: for certain values of "around", yes |
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01:32
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blergh |
may i PM? |
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01:32
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joepie91 |
sure :P |
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06:54
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arkhive |
When I was in 4th 5th 6th or 7th grade (1999-2002) we used this little device to type papers when the computer lab was full.. It had a qwerty keyboard in a green plastic shell with a small black and white screen about the size of two gum sticks set horizontally. I think the screen was only used to show what you have typed and you could use arrow keys to |
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06:56
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arkhive |
scroll up and read what couldn't be shown. When done typing the paper we used an IR connection to send the document to the device hub on the laptop mobile cart which would send to the printer. the device is the size of an ipad, though not the shape if that makes sense |
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06:57
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arkhive |
anyway.. I'm wondering if anyone knows what these things were called and if anyone knows of a website that has info on them. Would be a nice nostalgia trip. |
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06:57
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arkhive |
I think it was more like year 2000 we used them. |
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06:58
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arkhive |
Heh, I remember in elementary school i think in grade 6 friends and I would sneak away and play Cro Mag Rally on the iMac's hah |
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06:59
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arkhive |
anyway.. If anyone knows the name of the device or the type of device.. let me know please. :) |
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10:13
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Lord_Nigh |
arkhive: alphasmart 3000 perhaps? |
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10:13
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Lord_Nigh |
crap he left |
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15:45
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Schbirid |
anyone know an easy way to upload to youtube into a specific user or channel or whatever google calls them? my email address has two accounts and i want to select the non default one for the upload |
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15:46
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Schbirid |
youtube-uploaddoes not seem to support it and googlecl is complicated |
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15:48
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Schbirid |
nevermind. you have to do that serverside. on youtube go to the account settings and set the other account to by used by "old apps" |
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15:48
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Schbirid |
yay |
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16:30
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chfoo |
SketchCow: can you move this under an archiveteam collection: https://archive.org/details/isohunt_facebook_page_snapshot |
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17:31
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phillipsj |
arkhive I think those things were called "word processors". There existed typewriters with similar functionality, but those would have a built-in printer. |
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17:32
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* |
phillipsj missed the he left comment |
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18:03
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xmc |
phillipsj: he's talking about a device called an "alphasmart": http://www.neo-direct.com/ |
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18:04
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xmc |
also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaSmart |
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19:02
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yipdw |
man, using the AWS API is a clusterfuck of identifiers |
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19:02
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* |
yipdw is building tools to perform custom reports |
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19:10
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M1das |
AWS/Amazon should die |
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19:11
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M1das |
the API, the frontend, everything is just made by idiots |
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19:11
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yipdw |
I don't know if it's made by idiots, but it definitely feels like it's made for people who speak Amazon |
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19:15
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odie5533_ |
whats wrong with AWS? |
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21:18
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ersi |
I'd say they both said two concrete or pretty concrete hints above |
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21:19
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ersi |
1) The API sucks 2) The API is annoying 3) The front end sucks |
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21:41
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touya |
*sigh* |
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21:41
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ersi |
There we go. |
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21:41
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joepie91 |
hai :P |
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21:41
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touya |
was sent here 3 times w/o being kicked from main chan |
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21:42
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touya |
so i guess i'll go here :p |
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21:42
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ersi |
Yeah, you took your sweet time in understanding ;-) |
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21:42
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touya |
i get it |
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21:42
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DFJustin |
we like to keep the main chan pretty clean so bat signals don't get lost in scrollback |
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21:42
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joepie91 |
touya: kicking is generally counter-productive when you're trying to save half the internet :) |
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21:42
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ersi |
I don't agree with your earlier statement that the most threatening things to archive are threatened by copyright |
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21:42
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touya |
discussion about "what to archieve" doesn't belong there |
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21:42
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touya |
or reasons |
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21:42
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ersi |
We want to keep you around - and we want to keep #archiveteam clean and on-topic |
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21:43
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joepie91 |
touya: no; #archiveteam is purely for practical things, really |
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21:43
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DFJustin |
lots of times people wander in, type one line of "hey you should save this kbye" and then /part |
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21:43
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touya |
yup |
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21:43
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ersi |
this channel is for any discussions - archiving or anything else |
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21:43
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ersi |
#archiveteam is for "getting archiving done" - not talking about archiving. Doing archiving. |
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21:43
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touya |
sorry again, i didn't mean to disrupt |
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21:43
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ersi |
If we do both in #archiveteam - important things can get lost |
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21:43
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touya |
i was just thinking -bs was literally bullshi8t |
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21:44
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ersi |
touya: No worries - I'm explaining these things because you ARE very welcome |
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21:44
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touya |
like ppl talking about weather |
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21:44
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ersi |
nah, it's just a moniker/joke part |
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21:44
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ersi |
because having #archiveteam-offtopic sounds incredibly dull :) |
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21:44
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touya |
all good :) |
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21:46
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ersi |
indeed :) |
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21:46
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touya |
joepie91: 2mins xmpp? |
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21:46
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joepie91 |
in a moment |
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21:46
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joepie91 |
X just crapped out |
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21:46
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joepie91 |
so I have to restart some stuff |
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21:47
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touya |
sure, won't be long. just a Q and your thoughts |
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22:05
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Jacek |
If a site redirects to a file via an external site is it cool to replace the redirect with a direct link when archived? |
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22:07
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DFJustin |
with WARC you can save the 302 response and handle it that way |
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22:08
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Jacek |
I mean a crappy thing like adf.ly :P |
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22:09
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DFJustin |
for a zip archive of the website files what I would do is offer both original and modified versions |
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22:10
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ersi |
It's always nice to know what URL got you to the final storage location |
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22:10
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joepie91 |
urgh, adf.ly |
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22:10
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joepie91 |
that shit has to die |
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22:10
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ersi |
Saving is better than not saving though |
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22:10
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joepie91 |
a painful death |
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22:10
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Jacek |
yes |
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22:10
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Jacek |
obviously |
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22:10
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Jacek |
But until peoepl learn :P |
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22:10
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joepie91 |
the problem is that adf.ly is not a 302 |
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22:10
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joepie91 |
but a javascript redirect |
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22:10
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joepie91 |
with a timer |
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22:10
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joepie91 |
and an interstitial ad |
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22:11
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joepie91 |
basically, "you can only continue to what this links to, after looking at an ad for 5 seconds" |
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22:11
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joepie91 |
technically not a javascript redirect maybe, but that's what it comes down to |
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22:11
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Jacek |
Or if the site that uses it is crap and shows the redirect URL in the address bar \o/ |
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22:11
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joepie91 |
it's similar to linkbucks |
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22:11
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balrog |
http://dead.x10.mx/dead/ |
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22:12
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joepie91 |
balrog: afaik the context here was automated archiving though, I think |
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22:12
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Jacek |
"Using this online Tool you can get original link without wait for 4-5 seconds" |
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22:12
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Jacek |
flaw 1) It takes me 4-5 seconds to use it |
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22:12
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balrog |
I've found that useful at times |
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22:12
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balrog |
but yeah, replacing adfly is a good idea |
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22:12
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balrog |
and yeah, do like wget |
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22:13
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balrog |
rename the original, save the modified as a copy |
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22:13
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Jacek |
I guess in the spirit of things both is a nice idea |
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22:13
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joepie91 |
balrog, on that note; is there a particular reason for using wget in seesaw scripts as opposed to a native python module for downloading/WARCing things? |
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22:13
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joepie91 |
that you know of? |
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22:14
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balrog |
I don't really think it matters as long as proper warcs are produced |
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22:14
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balrog |
not the biggest fan of wget myself |
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22:14
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balrog |
oh, also make sure there's the ability to change the user agent in the python module |
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22:14
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joepie91 |
was thinking of maybe writing a module for it |
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22:14
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joepie91 |
with warc support and indeed stuff like useragent support |
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22:15
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joepie91 |
and stuff like "replace this function to replace link follow behaviour" |
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22:15
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joepie91 |
which is accomplished through lua scripting now |
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22:15
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joepie91 |
which is suboptimal as you now need proficiency in *two* languages instead of one, to write a 'proper' pipeline |
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22:35
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arkhive |
Thank you Lord_Nigh and xmc |
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22:36
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xmc |
how did you see, arkhive? |
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22:36
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arkhive |
The AlphaSmart 3000 is the exact one. Translucent and all. |
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22:36
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arkhive |
badcheese.com |
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22:36
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arkhive |
swebb's AT IRC logs |
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22:36
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arkhive |
http://badcheese.com/~steve/atlogs/?chan=archiveteam-bs |
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22:36
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xmc |
ohh |
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22:37
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xmc |
yeah my brother had an alphasmart so I knew what you were talking about |
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22:38
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Lord_Nigh |
yeah i heard what you were saying and i thought 'that sounds like the non-translucent alphasmart 2000 i have here, maybe the alphasmart 3000, which i knew existed,was translucent?' |
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22:38
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arkhive |
Thanks :) Great seeing them again! heh. |
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22:38
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Lord_Nigh |
the 2000 didn't always have the IR module installed |
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22:38
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arkhive |
Yeah, according to wikipedia the 3000 was the translucent one |
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22:38
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Lord_Nigh |
in fact the two as2000s i have here neither has the IR part |
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22:38
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arkhive |
wikipedia lol |
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22:38
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Lord_Nigh |
it was a $50 upgrade, the IR module |
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22:38
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Lord_Nigh |
for the 2000 |
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22:39
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arkhive |
this had it built in. However, if wikipedia's article is accurate.. It mentioned smartApplets like a simple calculator program.. I don't remember that. But It HAS to be the 3000 |
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22:40
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arkhive |
so 5th grade heh. |
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22:40
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arkhive |
this same color |
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22:40
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arkhive |
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AlphaSmart-3000-Portable-Lightweight-Word-Processor-Fully-Tested-USB-Port-/251359742647?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item3a86354ab7 |
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22:44
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ersi |
joepie91: wget has been used because of "less hassle". It does things decently |
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22:45
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ersi |
joepie91: but I wouldn't mind a python version ;) |
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22:47
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arkhive |
Hmm.. I wish I could remember the exact cart or AlphaHub we used. I remember sending it through IR to have it print.. Anyway.. Thanks :) |
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22:48
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joepie91 |
ersi: alrigght |
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22:48
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joepie91 |
er |
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22:48
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joepie91 |
alright * |