| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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04:17
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BlueMax |
so I tried reading Racing the Beam a few days ago |
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04:18
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BlueMax |
turns out I'm kind of stupid |
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12:29
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godane |
i'm starting upload video power show |
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12:30
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godane |
the episodes that i got anyways |
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12:56
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godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/Video.Power.Episode.01-1990.10.01 |
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13:36
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godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/Video.Power.Episode.02-1990.10.02 |
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13:37
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godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/Video.Power.Episode.03-1990.10.03 |
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13:44
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ersi |
okay :p |
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13:58
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ivan` |
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9243751/6TB_helium_filled_hard_drives_take_flight_bump_capacity_50_ |
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13:58
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ivan` |
just when I was getting used to The End of Capacity Increases |
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14:08
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odie5533 |
wow |
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14:23
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* |
ersi drools |
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15:15
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Lord_Nigh |
ivan`: i dunno. helium hard drives seem to be asking to find a way to leak and kill themselves |
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15:15
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Lord_Nigh |
i'll stick with 2tb and 3tb |
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15:15
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odie5533 |
they cost a lot more apparently |
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15:29
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ivan` |
you know the 4TB drives have been available since dec 2011 |
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15:43
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SketchCow |
Yeah. |
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15:43
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SketchCow |
4tb is not low yet. |
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15:43
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SketchCow |
When it is, archive.org swaps to it |
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15:45
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Lord_Nigh |
ivan`: 4tb are too damn expensive |
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15:46
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Lord_Nigh |
hopefully this 6tb thing gets the prices down somewhat |
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15:46
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Lord_Nigh |
but i don't know if helium filled disks are any good for semi-long-term storage |
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15:47
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odie5533 |
Lord_Nigh: the article notes that since they are sealed, it helps avoid contamination |
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15:47
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odie5533 |
but I think most hard drives go due to mechanical failure anyways, not contamination |
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15:47
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SketchCow |
It's a fairly terrible, short term solution. |
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15:48
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Lord_Nigh |
yes, but the point of the helium i think has to do with how high the disk heads have to 'float' above the media witout turbulence |
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15:48
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Lord_Nigh |
if the helium leaks out the disk heads will almost immediately crash |
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15:48
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balrog |
it's so they can pack more platters in the drive |
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15:48
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balrog |
I don't think they'll immediately crash; I think it will drastically shorten the life of the drive |
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15:48
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odie5533 |
Lord_Nigh: that's why we high engineers to make sure it don't leak |
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15:48
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odie5533 |
*hire |
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15:48
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joepie93 |
odie5533: we saw how well that went for Fukushima :D |
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15:49
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balrog |
for enterprise use, you just have a sensor that detects whether the helium has leaked out, and if it has, fail the drive and mark it for immediate replacement |
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15:49
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odie5533 |
joepie93: new plan: don't hire japanese engineers |
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15:49
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joepie93 |
odie5533: we see how well that went for chernobyl... |
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15:49
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Lord_Nigh |
also helium atoms are incredibly small atomic-wise, so even molecule-scale holes will have slow leakage |
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15:49
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odie5533 |
or russian |
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15:49
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* |
joepie93 digs up a list of large-scale technical failures |
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15:50
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Lord_Nigh |
eventually when enough helium leaks out the drive will crash |
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15:50
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|
* |
odie5533 starts deleting entries for the U.S. from said Wikipedia list |
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15:50
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Lord_Nigh |
hence: i think helium hard drives are a stupid idea |
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15:50
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balrog |
I'm pretty sure the drive won't instantly crash when the helium leaks out |
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15:50
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odie5533 |
Lord_Nigh: I think it's a badass idea that's completely impractical. |
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15:51
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balrog |
it's practical only for continually-monitored datacenters |
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15:51
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Lord_Nigh |
yeah, raid-5 or raid-6 arrays with backups on non-helium media |
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16:06
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godane |
SketchCow: i got a few pc novice magazines scanned this weekend |
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16:07
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godane |
i also got some more cover scans of some cds i can upload too |
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16:12
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DFJustin |
helium is nonrenewable too |
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16:12
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DFJustin |
I just got a 4tb though so that should keep me a while (famous last words) |
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16:13
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balrog |
yeah, that's another issue |
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16:13
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|
balrog |
LOL |
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16:14
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DFJustin |
I already filled up the 2tb I got a year or two ago for archive team stuff |
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16:16
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SketchCow |
Excellent. |
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16:16
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SketchCow |
DFJustin: Let me know if you need to mail it in to have us injest it directly for you. |
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16:20
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|
godane |
what really need is a 1PD dvd-like disc |
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16:21
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godane |
it would be like going back to the day a cdrom could hold a full bbs server on it |
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16:25
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|
DFJustin |
well I ended up using it for a bunch of other things too |
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16:27
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DFJustin |
there are a couple huge torrents that are like 98% available that I need to figure out how to repackage sensibly |
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16:37
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balrog |
anyone here has a plextor DVD drive? specifically one of: PX-708A, PX-712A, PX-716A, PX-755A, PX-760A |
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16:50
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odie5533 |
I do |
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16:51
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odie5533 |
balrog: me me me |
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16:51
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|
balrog |
I'm looking for one to test this utility: |
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16:51
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|
balrog |
http://forum.redump.org/topic/10483/discimagecreator/page/9/ |
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16:51
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|
balrog |
if you have discs that may help him, it wouldn't hurt to post feedback there |
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16:52
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odie5533 |
"all securom dumps are bad and need to be redone" d'oh |
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16:52
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|
balrog |
I'm looking for one of those drives so I can do a test myself |
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16:53
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|
balrog |
well, tests |
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16:53
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|
balrog |
that's fine รขยย so far the only tool I know of that does correct securom dumps is private |
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16:53
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odie5533 |
I have a separate computer setup with IDE just for doing redump stuff :) |
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16:53
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|
balrog |
ahhh |
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16:53
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|
balrog |
you wouldn't have access to trurip... |
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16:53
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odie5533 |
yeah, the music ripper? |
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16:54
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|
balrog |
I thought it did more than just music |
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16:54
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|
balrog |
the music ripper I know of is EAC |
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16:54
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|
odie5533 |
I'm thinking of something else then. |
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16:54
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|
odie5533 |
nope, guess I don't have trurip |
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16:55
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|
balrog |
yeah :/ |
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16:55
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|
odie5533 |
I was thinking of PerfectRip. |
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16:55
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|
odie5533 |
Not TrueRip. :) |
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16:55
๐
|
balrog |
yeah, the people working on PerfectRip quit and started working on TruRip |
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16:55
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|
balrog |
however, they refuse to release the software, preferring to keep it private. |
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16:56
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|
odie5533 |
lol. sounds like something to avoid, avoid, avoid. |
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16:56
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|
balrog |
yeah, that's why I asked about testing DiscImageCreator |
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16:57
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|
balrog |
since so far it's the closest thing we have to an accurate, open-source, available dumper |
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16:57
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|
balrog |
and the author is working on it actively |
|
16:57
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|
balrog |
(the "test" builds aren't open source but I'm not too concerned about that) |
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16:57
๐
|
odie5533 |
I thought the closest thing was IsoBuster |
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16:57
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yipdw |
heh, helium |
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16:57
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|
yipdw |
""Data is going to the moon. As we deploy solutions that are tens and hundreds of petabytes, anything you can do to increase density is a boon," said Jimmy Daley, director of Smart Storage at Hewlett-Packard." |
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16:58
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balrog |
odie5533: no, isobuster has issues :/ |
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16:58
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yipdw |
fun fact: Jimmy Daley is an MC in his spare time |
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16:58
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balrog |
"CDRWin also won't handle Multisession properly (Jaguar CDs) again because .cue/.bin can't do it. Isobuster attempts some hacked support for such, but again it's useless. Most old tools (including a 5 year old version of Nero) would produce invalid images for Multisession CDs, or ones with otherwise funky formats (the Audio CDs with bonus multimedia stuff caused it many headaches) |
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16:58
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|
balrog |
" |
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16:58
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|
balrog |
throw a CDi-Ready disc at CDRWin and it will likewise produce something completely unusable. |
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16:59
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|
odie5533 |
I don't think I have any CDi games or Jaguar CDs |
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16:59
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|
balrog |
anything "weird" is of interest :P |
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16:59
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odie5533 |
in fact I know I don't |
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17:01
๐
|
odie5533 |
would be a neat tool if he released it open source. |
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17:01
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|
balrog |
if you go to the first post, the downloads contain source code |
|
17:01
๐
|
balrog |
the test releases don't, but I think that's because they're not intended for "common use" but rather for testing |
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17:01
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|
odie5533 |
doesn't really matter. |
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17:01
๐
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balrog |
I suppose if you ask him, he'd post the source to the test releases |
|
17:01
๐
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odie5533 |
till then it's probably more worthwhile to pursue open source solutions, perhaps modifyig existing cd rippers. |
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17:02
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|
balrog |
he probably figures that since no one has helped source-wise so far, it's not worth including the source |
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17:02
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|
odie5533 |
otherwise there is a substantial bus factor in continuing to pursue this closed-source project. |
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17:02
๐
|
balrog |
if you're interested in helping with the source? I'd send him a PM and ask about source for test versions |
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17:02
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|
balrog |
s/with source/with coding |
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17:02
๐
|
odie5533 |
balrog: more worried about the bus factor at this point. |
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17:02
๐
|
odie5533 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor |
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17:04
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balrog |
that's much more of a problem with tools like TruRip. |
|
17:04
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|
balrog |
which is why I don't want to have anything to do with TruRip |
|
17:05
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|
odie5533 |
any effort or work to test this closed source program would all be for nothing if he decided to stop releasing updates at any moment. Not to mention all that effort would be better placed in the first place in an open source project. |
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17:06
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|
odie5533 |
to some, this might not be a concern. however, it strikes me as a large concern. |
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17:06
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|
balrog |
what I'm saying is that the test builds are closed source probably due to laziness / thinking that it's not necessary to post source code, not because he doesn't want to |
|
17:06
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|
balrog |
in which case, asking nicely would work |
|
17:06
๐
|
odie5533 |
then we should ask him to post it up on github! |
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17:06
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|
balrog |
he probably doesn't know how to use github |
|
17:06
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|
balrog |
all the downloads on the first post contain source code |
|
17:07
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|
balrog |
i.e. the "officially released" versions |
|
17:11
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|
balrog |
I'd post on the thread but I can't contribute since I don't have a drive :/ |
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17:11
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odie5533 |
don't you need the special disks too? |
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17:11
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|
balrog |
just protected disks |
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17:12
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|
balrog |
or game console disks |
|
17:12
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|
odie5533 |
which protection? |
|
17:12
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|
balrog |
or otherwise "interesting" disks |
|
17:12
๐
|
odie5533 |
I have Xbox 1 games |
|
17:12
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|
balrog |
well, securom is one type where more information would be useful |
|
17:12
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|
odie5533 |
Also, the source appears to be released under the MS-PL |
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17:12
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|
balrog |
MS-PL isn't a horrible license |
|
17:13
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|
balrog |
the bad one iirc is the MS-RL |
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17:13
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|
balrog |
it's weak-copyleft gpl-incompatible open soruce |
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17:13
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|
balrog |
no, the MS-RL was ok... there was one of the MS licenses that was pretty bad |
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17:14
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odie5533 |
I assume it's Ms-PL because he uses MS's sources. |
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17:14
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balrog |
would not surprise me |
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17:14
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balrog |
a lot of kexts for Mac OS are APSL because they borrow code from opensource.apple.com |
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17:15
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|
balrog |
still, what other data cd rippers that can rip difficult media are open source? |
|
17:15
๐
|
balrog |
I know of a couple audio rippers |
|
17:16
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|
balrog |
namely XLD for Mac, and morituri for Linux |
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17:17
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|
odie5533 |
Does it use a new format to save the disc? |
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17:17
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|
balrog |
pretty sure it uses clonecd format |
|
17:17
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|
balrog |
(ccd/img/sub) |
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17:18
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|
balrog |
not 100% sure though, as I said I don't have a drive to test |
|
17:18
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|
balrog |
if someone has a spare drive they'd like to sell, I'd be interested |
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17:18
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|
odie5533 |
Try ebay |
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17:18
๐
|
odie5533 |
that's where I got mine |
|
17:19
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|
balrog |
how much did you end up paying? |
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17:19
๐
|
odie5533 |
I think like $20. It came with another DVD drive and a floppy drive |
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17:22
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|
joepie93 |
urgently in need of ~450GB storage space for archiving things |
|
17:22
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|
joepie93 |
actually urgently |
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17:22
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|
joepie93 |
(can explain details in PM) |
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17:23
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DFJustin |
poke SketchCow |
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17:25
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|
SketchCow |
Yes |
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17:25
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joepie93 |
sent a pm |
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17:58
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phillipsj |
The MS "shared source" license is essentially a read-only license. |
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17:59
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balrog |
phillipsj: yep... |
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17:59
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balrog |
ugh, kryoflux changed their format and didn't document their changes. |
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18:55
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joepie93 |
free: http://www.inkydeals.com/deal/inkys-free-web-design-bundle-471-premium-resources/ |
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19:47
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|
godane |
SketchCow: I uploaded this item: https://archive.org/details/www.p2p-zone.com-underground-forums-20131102 |
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19:48
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|
godane |
its a forum on p2p stuff going back to 2001 |
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20:34
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w0rp |
I considered deleting a text file in a .flac copy of an OST, when I opened the file and saw this: DON'T MODIFY THIS FILE |
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20:34
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w0rp |
I kept the file. |
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20:45
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joepie93 |
w0rp: it just told you not to modify... it didn't say anything about deleting! |
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20:46
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xmc |
hmmmmmmmm, pondering feeding tor hidden webservers into the wayback machine |
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21:08
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sep332_ |
Is there a bookmarklet for IA's new "Save page now" feature? |
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21:08
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|
sep332_ |
or is this code going to do horrible things? :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6670945 |
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21:48
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ersi |
http://liveweb.archive.org/record/<URL> |
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21:49
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|
odie5533 |
bookmarklet: javascript:(function()%7Bwindow.open('http://liveweb.archive.org/record/'+encodeURIComponent(location));%7D)(); |
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21:49
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odie5533 |
(untested) |
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21:50
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|
ersi |
It's funny how HN deterioates at an accelerated pace for every single day |
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21:50
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|
ersi |
soon it'll be reddit |
|
21:50
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|
odie5533 |
same with /. =/ |
|
21:50
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|
ersi |
Hahahahahhhhhhh |
|
21:50
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|
ersi |
Slashdot has been fucking stupid since forever |
|
21:50
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DFJustin |
that ship sailed a long time ago |
|
21:50
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|
ersi |
Yeah, and like crashed - got reborn/rebuilt and then imploded several times over :D |
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21:50
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odie5533 |
I still read it... It's still better than reddit |
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21:51
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sep332_ |
it just happened yesterday. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6666670 |
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21:51
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ersi |
Well, it sure as fuck didn't start yesterday |
|
21:51
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|
odie5533 |
That stuff usually doesn't/can't happen on slashdot |
|
21:51
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|
odie5533 |
so at least slashdot has that going for it. |
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21:52
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sep332_ |
yeah but i've never seen a thread on HN like that with no negative karma |
|
21:52
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ersi |
Well, they're somewhat saved by their weirdo ass comment system |
|
21:52
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|
ersi |
but no one knows about firehose.pl anymore, so it's only retards that submit stories |
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21:52
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|
ersi |
and/or the new editors |
|
21:52
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|
ersi |
which are stupid |
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21:52
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|
ersi |
CLICK HERE TO GO TO SLASHDOT BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE MARKETING DROID POST |
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21:53
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odie5533 |
if you know of a better tech news source, spill |
|
21:53
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|
ersi |
there is none |
|
21:53
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odie5533 |
because the quality of comments on slashdot, from what I've seen, is a huge step above the competition |
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21:54
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ersi |
And when Google Reader died, I said "You know what world, fuck it. I won't wonder.". I've left 'news' |
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21:54
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odie5533 |
the only higher quality comments I see are on stackexchange or quora, but those aren't really news sites |
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21:54
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sep332_ |
well it's not an aggregator but Ars Technica, while deteriorating, is still pretty nice |
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21:54
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ersi |
I read ArsTechnica and LWN.net. That's about it. |
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21:54
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odie5533 |
never really visisted the comments on Ars. hmm |
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21:55
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ersi |
fuck comments |
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21:55
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odie5533 |
then Reddit is actually a decent news site. |
|
21:55
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odie5533 |
if you just use it to click links and don't actually read any of the user content |
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21:55
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sep332_ |
ok, so web.archive.org/save is different from http://liveweb.archive.org/record/ ? |
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21:56
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odie5533 |
ersi: doesn't lwn require a sub? |
|
22:01
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|
ersi |
odie5533: Nope. |
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22:01
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ersi |
But of course I have a subscription. Easily worth it. |
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22:01
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ersi |
odie5533: No, Reddit fucking sucks as a news source |
|
22:02
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|
ersi |
IMO |
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22:02
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odie5533 |
ersi: it does require a subscription. |
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22:02
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ersi |
sep332_: No idea. |
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22:02
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ersi |
odie5533: No it doesn't. |
|
22:02
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odie5533 |
"Subscription required" |
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22:02
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odie5533 |
https://lwn.net/Articles/571875/ |
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22:02
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ersi |
If you'd wait a freggin second I would've filled in this: |
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22:02
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balrog |
odie5533: viewing recent articles requires a subscription |
|
22:03
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|
balrog |
they make articles public-view within a couple weeks at most |
|
22:03
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ersi |
You can read ALL the articles, but not the recent ones. They get released a week later for the 'non-payers' |
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22:03
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odie5533 |
balrog: Yes, that's what I thought. |
|
22:03
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odie5533 |
one week old news. mmmm |
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22:03
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ersi |
So no, a subscription is not required. But it's a lot better with a sub |
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22:03
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ersi |
But the sub is like.. nothing |
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balrog |
the stuff they run doesn't go out of date fast |
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ersi |
indeed |
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odie5533 |
balrog: yeah, good point. |
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w0rp |
Does rsync's treatment of trailing slashes piss anyone else off? |
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dashcloud |
yes- because if you forget one, it's a big deal |
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DFJustin |
I've started using http://freefilesync.sourceforge.net/ instead because gui |
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w0rp |
"I see you forgot your slash, I'll just copy into that directory instead." |
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w0rp |
This is why I write a bash function around it. |
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DFJustin |
also --dry-run is handy if you haven't previously run the command |
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dashcloud |
how is there not a similar tool to discimagecreator already on Linux? |
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phillipsj |
Linux users have no need for piracy? (ducks) |