Time |
Nickname |
Message |
00:15
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SketchCow |
I am sure there is. |
00:16
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DFJustin |
saying there isn't is the fastest way to get someone to tell you what it is though |
00:17
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DFJustin |
it works better if you throw in a "Linux sucks" or two though |
00:25
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dashcloud |
the sheer amount of effort that's gone into the CD (anti-)copying war is amazing |
00:32
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odie5533 |
dashcloud: and it's all be basically for naught. Every major piece of media out there gets pirated. |
00:32
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SketchCow |
It's not for naught. |
00:33
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odie5533 |
The most effective front at this point is video game consoles. And even they've all be cracked. |
00:33
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SketchCow |
The purpose of copy protection is to slow down obvious piracy for the first six weeks of a product release. |
00:33
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odie5533 |
I mean long term |
00:33
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SketchCow |
Yes. |
00:33
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SketchCow |
But it's not for naught. |
00:33
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SketchCow |
Different goals. |
00:34
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dashcloud |
have you seen the amount of effort needed to defeat any modern copy protection system- it's now well beyond what a single person can do, and probably even a small team |
00:34
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odie5533 |
dashcloud: a lot of them seem to use the same protection systems, so once it's cracked by one it's cracked by all. |
00:36
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dashcloud |
I'm pretty sure the only reason blu-ray is as good as it is, is because there's a company in a legally untouchable country that can just throw crap loads of money and resources at it |
00:37
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odie5533 |
what country is that? |
00:37
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mistym |
odie5533: There was a really good piece on that on Gamasutra awhile back, about one of the PS1 Spyro games |
00:37
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dashcloud |
Antigua |
00:37
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mistym |
They put a lot of work into the copy protection system not with the plan to make it uncrackable, but to make it uncrackable within a few weeks |
00:38
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dashcloud |
they've been in a trade dispute with the US at the WTO for years over gambling |
00:40
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odie5533 |
dashcloud: what software do they produce? |
00:40
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dashcloud |
they make AnyDVD (HD) and CloneCD at least |
00:50
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mistym |
odie5533: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/131439/keeping_the_pirates_at_bay.php |
00:53
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|
odie5533 |
Cracker arms race |
00:56
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|
odie5533 |
I wonder how long it would take today's crackers to crack. |
01:05
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|
touya |
cubase does a good job apparently |
05:54
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M1das_ |
morning |
06:02
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joepie93 |
morning! |
09:13
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godane |
SketchCow: i'm updating t3 podcast |
11:42
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Schbirid |
working on a moddb downloader |
11:51
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Schbirid |
that was easy :o |
12:01
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|
joepie93 |
haha |
12:01
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joepie93 |
9 minutes |
12:01
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joepie93 |
classy |
14:31
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Schbirid |
9 minutes for the poc but a script always takes longer |
14:33
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|
Schbirid |
and looking through the comments eg on http://www.moddb.com/games/quake-remake makes me want to delete all i just did and just run away as fast as i can |
14:37
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|
ersi |
Archive the stupid |
14:37
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|
ersi |
Make it last! |
14:46
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Schbirid |
more complicated than i thought :( |
15:03
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|
GLaDOS |
Quick, someone give me a way to start an email for someone that I haven't talked to in about 2 years |
15:08
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|
ersi |
"OH'HOY THERE!" |
15:19
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Schbirid |
GLaDOS: dear emily, i am finally sober. please forgive me. |
15:19
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GLaDOS |
..HOW DID YOU KNOW |
16:34
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joepie93 |
hey, who was it that was uploading old Linux ISOs to IA again? |
17:55
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yipdw |
I really wonder about the github user accounts that just star and fork everything |
17:55
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yipdw |
like this one: https://github.com/pombredanne/repositories |
17:55
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yipdw |
I mean, (A) if that's a real human being, what the fuck are they doing |
17:55
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yipdw |
and (B) if that's a bot, what the fuck is it doing |
17:57
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|
yipdw |
it's like some sort of weird SEO-like thing |
17:57
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|
yipdw |
"look at all my contributions!!" |
18:20
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SketchCow |
Yeah, github can have some weirding |
18:20
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SketchCow |
Might be a bot. |
18:35
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ivan` |
yipdw: a forked repo is a backed-up repo, sort of |
18:45
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yipdw |
ivan`: a little bit |
18:50
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godane |
i'm going after the Japanese magazine Mac Fan |
18:51
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DFJustin |
sweet |
18:52
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|
godane |
i may only get magazines from 2013 so far |
18:52
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DFJustin |
seem to be a lot of Fan magazines there - MSX Fan, PC Engine Fan, ... |
18:52
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godane |
i do know that there are some from 2011 out there |
18:53
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DFJustin |
yeah I came across a reference to a 2011 Mac Fan cover dvd |
18:53
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godane |
http://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?t=159433 |
18:59
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godane |
DFJustin: looks like we have 2 MSX Fan Collections |
19:01
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|
DFJustin |
also nobody's fixed the IA bug that you can't Read Online things with wacky filenames https://archive.org/details/super-pc-engine-fan-1 |
19:01
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godane |
one here that thing is from jason scott when he put tosecpix up: https://archive.org/details/msxfanjapanese |
19:01
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DFJustin |
oh wow I didn't know about that one |