#archiveteam-bs 2013-11-15,Fri

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01:46 πŸ”— Jonimus I'm looking to get software off of an older machine, anyone know of a device that allows a USB drive or SD card that pretends to be a floppy drive
01:47 πŸ”— Jonimus have you guys heard of anything like that?
01:48 πŸ”— balrog hmm what machine?
01:48 πŸ”— Jonimus its actually x86 based, so standard IDE Floppy.
01:53 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh Jonimus: its usually easiest, if the hard drive is ata/ide, to just remove the hdd and connect it using a usb enclosure or a usb adapter
01:53 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh or if you're feeling like it you can set up a null modem cable and dump files serially
01:59 πŸ”— Jonimus it needs to be more long term than that since the system is actively used
02:02 πŸ”— balrog what OS does this machine run?
02:03 πŸ”— Jonimus not sure
02:05 πŸ”— DFJustin you can get devices that allow you to plug in a compactflash card to an ide connector
02:06 πŸ”— DFJustin so you could leave that in place and put in a card to copy stuff onto periodically
02:06 πŸ”— balrog yeah I was going to suggest that
02:07 πŸ”— Jonimus hmm I'll look into that.
02:07 πŸ”— balrog CF is just a different form factor of ATA.
02:09 πŸ”— Jonimus Yeah, I've taken advantage of that before.
02:25 πŸ”— joepie91 Jonimus, DFJustin; http://www.buyincoins.com/item/617.html
02:25 πŸ”— joepie91 $1.47, free shipping, CF -> IDE
02:25 πŸ”— joepie91 :)
02:26 πŸ”— joepie91 it'll take 2 weeks to arrive though
02:59 πŸ”— DFJustin there are ones that mount on the back of the case http://www.synack.net/~bbraun/idecf/thumbs/IMG_0683.jpg
03:02 πŸ”— Jonimus ooh that one looks nice.
03:04 πŸ”— Jonimus Now on an unrelated not I get to decide which exfat implementation I want to use.
04:29 πŸ”— godane i'm started to upload PixelPerfect
04:34 πŸ”— kyan does Heritrix have an IRC channel for support? Having trouble configuring a crawl of a website behind a loginҀ¦
05:07 πŸ”— godane how do i archive a wiki like this: http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Main_Page
05:09 πŸ”— DFJustin sounds like a job for #wikiteam
05:59 πŸ”— godane i'm making a big magnet.txt file of my d-addicts.com dump
05:59 πŸ”— godane also those dumps are in wayback magazine now
05:59 πŸ”— godane *machine
06:00 πŸ”— godane whats funny is i can still get very fast speeds for 6 year old videos here
06:01 πŸ”— godane i found some thing called Ikinari! Ougon Desentsu
06:03 πŸ”— DFJustin densetsu
06:04 πŸ”— godane yup
06:14 πŸ”— godane i'm making a web archive of the torrents
06:41 πŸ”— godane i fixed my brothers ipad mini tonight :-D
06:42 πŸ”— godane i think i saved 2 computers that he had problems with
06:42 πŸ”— godane the other was a acer one that had bios problems and would not start up
07:57 πŸ”— godane so would IA take a zip files of torrents and download the torrents in the zip file
07:58 πŸ”— godane i plan on uploading a zip of d-addicts.com torrents
07:58 πŸ”— godane i would also like to see items of downloaded content of the torrents on IA to know for my self it works
07:59 πŸ”— godane *if it works
14:17 πŸ”— Baljem Jonimus: just for reference, there are 'floppy drive emulators' that have a floppy interface on one side and map reads/writes through to floppy disk images on a USB stick
14:17 πŸ”— Baljem e.g. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-5-1-44MB-USB-SSD-FLOPPY-DRIVE-EMULATOR-E100-Version-/290994317127
14:18 πŸ”— Baljem they're popular as replacement 'floppy drives' in synths / pianos / other bits of gear that weren't really designed to be upgraded - but in general, there are much better solutions for proper computers (as already discussed)
14:55 πŸ”— Jonimus Baljem: well its an embedded computer so swapping CF cards in and out if it was internal is a bit harder than just swapping out the Floppy drive. That said messing with floppy images isn't what they were looking for so it looks like we'll end up just buying a USB floppy drive for the desktop to transfer things over on floppys
15:00 πŸ”— joepie91 https://medium.com/building-gittip/4cbab7ca1a47
15:01 πŸ”— joepie91 "EҀ™s site is defunct (hereҀ™s its Wikipedia), and the original blog post articulating AlexanderҀ™s open company vision is gone. Furthermore, the site has a restrictive robots.txt, so the page isnҀ™t archived in the Wayback Machine."
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Cowering> 2sf dsf gbs gsf hoot nsf psf psf3 s98 spc usf wsr xbox 3do fmtowns gcn hes kss ncd pc psf2 psp smd ssf wii x360
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Cowering> do you know joshw's VGM site?
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Cowering> none are on wayback machine but he does not care if you mirror since he last updated them in 2010
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Cowering> stick that as the subdomains for joshw.info and watch the fun
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Lord_Nigh> not really, no
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Cowering> about 800GB
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Lord_Nigh> jeez
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Lord_Nigh> should post that in #archiveteam
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Cowering> figured you liked sounds...
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Lord_Nigh> i don't have enough space to mirror even half of that
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Cowering> ok i'll repaste this
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Cowering> ah.. a more up to date list of music links.. a few are new from the ones i pasted
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Cowering> http://hcs64.com/m
16:14 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh last line was cut off sorry
16:15 πŸ”— Lord_Nigh <Cowering> http://hcs64.com/mboard/forumlong.php?showthread=26929
16:54 πŸ”— godane so looks like Ikinari! Ougon Desentsu is a fishing show in japan i think
21:48 πŸ”— swebb ignore: Just testing atlogbot2
21:50 πŸ”— altlabel linux users, which software do you use to copy your purchased music CDs / enhanced-CDs ?
21:52 πŸ”— SmileyG if i was to do so, prob google music
21:52 πŸ”— SmileyG or amazon
21:52 πŸ”— SmileyG and rip as neede.
21:53 πŸ”— balrog http://thomas.apestaart.org/morituri/trac/
21:57 πŸ”— altlabel SmileyG, balrog, thanks
22:22 πŸ”— SmileyG Oh wait, i re-read what you askedc
22:22 πŸ”— SmileyG ignore my answer altlabel I failed.
22:25 πŸ”— DFJustin http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/chases-twitter-gambit-devolves-into-all-time-pr-fiasco-20131115
22:25 πŸ”— SmileyG This flu has broken my heasd.
22:29 πŸ”— altlabel don't worry :)
22:45 πŸ”— altlabel a very good initiative from te Beeb: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2013/11/speakerthon-uploading-voice-samples-from-the-radio-4-archive-to-wikipedia
22:57 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533:
22:57 πŸ”— joepie91 If 'apt-get' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:
22:57 πŸ”— joepie91 cnf apt-get
22:57 πŸ”— joepie91 sven@linux-rfa7:~> apt-get install python-pyside
22:57 πŸ”— joepie91 :(
22:58 πŸ”— odie5533 try sudo apt-get install python-pyside
22:58 πŸ”— joepie91 root's password:
22:58 πŸ”— joepie91 sudo: apt-get: command not found
22:58 πŸ”— joepie91 sven@linux-rfa7:~> sudo apt-get install python-pyside
22:58 πŸ”— odie5533 Hmm. Try sudo aptitude install python-pyside
22:59 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533: I'm screwing with you :P
22:59 πŸ”— joepie91 I would be concerned if opensuse suddenly had apt-get installed
23:00 πŸ”— odie5533 Alright, this one will definitely work: try rebooting, and before you bios loads, put your Microsoft Windows 8 Installation Disc into your drive and install a real operating system for maximum computing.
23:00 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533: I did this and I got a General Kernel Fault? but I didn't get my copy of windows from the army?
23:00 πŸ”— nico_ setup failed - missing cpu flags: SSE2
23:01 πŸ”— odie5533 from the army?
23:01 πŸ”— odie5533 nico_: what are you running on a toaster?
23:01 πŸ”— nico_ no
23:01 πŸ”— nico_ dual pentium 3
23:03 πŸ”— nico_ better than the old pentium 4 without ht
23:03 πŸ”— odie5533 So... that's got 5 cores?
23:03 πŸ”— nico_ no
23:03 πŸ”— nico_ 2 real cpu
23:03 πŸ”— nico_ the good old smp
23:04 πŸ”— nico_ before this multicore and hyperthreading mess
23:05 πŸ”— joepie91 <odie5533>from the army?
23:05 πŸ”— joepie91 General Kernel Fault
23:05 πŸ”— joepie91 General
23:05 πŸ”— joepie91 don't you get it? :(
23:05 πŸ”— joepie91 ./me *ba dum tish*
23:05 πŸ”— odie5533 I do now...
23:05 πŸ”— joepie91 er
23:05 πŸ”— * joepie91 *ba dum tish*
23:06 πŸ”— nico_ joepie91: General Kernel *Page* Fault please
23:06 πŸ”— nico_ he really want you to say his full name
23:06 πŸ”— joepie91 hehe
23:10 πŸ”— joepie91 GODFUCKING
23:11 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533: http://sprunge.us/iWRH
23:11 πŸ”— joepie91 :|
23:12 πŸ”— swebb testing again.
23:13 πŸ”— joepie91 http://software.opensuse.org/package/python-pyside
23:13 πŸ”— joepie91 oh well
23:14 πŸ”— joepie91 magic! it works
23:14 πŸ”— odie5533 Sounds like you have a bad case of using linux instead of a real OS.
23:14 πŸ”— xmc lol
23:15 πŸ”— nico_ joepie91: please upgrade your gcc
23:15 πŸ”— joepie91 nico_: wha
23:15 πŸ”— nico_ your log say /usr/include/c++/4.7
23:15 πŸ”— nico_ my computer say /usr/include/c++/4.8
23:16 πŸ”— odie5533 If everyone just used Windows it would probably eliminate something like 98% of all computer-related problems in the world. This is just an estimate though.
23:16 πŸ”— nico_ odie5533: yeeah
23:16 πŸ”— nico_ i want windows as my rtos
23:16 πŸ”— nico_ so airplane will crash because
23:16 πŸ”— joepie91 uh... odie5533, it only gives me a partial text version of the response?
23:16 πŸ”— joepie91 no HTML rendering and no way to see the full response?
23:17 πŸ”— nico_ a thread stole some cpu from the autopilot
23:17 πŸ”— nico_ ^^^
23:17 πŸ”— joepie91 lol
23:18 πŸ”— rover where can I get the password for something from alt.bin.dvd
23:18 πŸ”— joepie91 rover: on alt.bin.dvd, probably...?
23:18 πŸ”— nico_ from /dev/urandom
23:18 πŸ”— nico_ but it will take some time
23:18 πŸ”— joepie91 lol, nico_, on a roll today?
23:18 πŸ”— nico_ to seek to the right offset
23:19 πŸ”— odie5533 and it brings up the WebKit view
23:19 πŸ”— odie5533 joepie91: double click an item
23:19 πŸ”— odie5533 I should set it to display at least 1 MB of the response though.
23:19 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533: documentation!
23:19 πŸ”— nico_ rover: usually the password is in the first post
23:19 πŸ”— joepie91 or at least a context menu!
23:19 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
23:19 πŸ”— odie5533 nico_: if you switch to windows you don't need to worry about upgrading gcc since it doesn't use it.
23:19 πŸ”— nico_ hum
23:20 πŸ”— nico_ upgrading microsoft visual studio is fun
23:20 πŸ”— odie5533 joepie91: I am trying to get it to work with large files first.
23:20 πŸ”— odie5533 Then I'll probably write some docs
23:20 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533: it's broken
23:20 πŸ”— odie5533 in more ways than one
23:20 πŸ”— joepie91 http://owely.com/4qNJsa
23:20 πŸ”— joepie91 looks like it picks up the first occurrence of the URL
23:21 πŸ”— joepie91 for the webkit view
23:21 πŸ”— joepie91 rather than the actually selected one
23:21 πŸ”— odie5533 Yes, it does.
23:21 πŸ”— joepie91 which is a problem for throttling retries
23:21 πŸ”— rover what does your team archive
23:21 πŸ”— odie5533 It has to because it uses a Proxy.
23:21 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533: that breaks the functionality of the application...
23:21 πŸ”— odie5533 Depends on your use case.
23:22 πŸ”— joepie91 rover, there's some introductory reading here: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
23:22 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533: it really doesn't
23:22 πŸ”— joepie91 the point of a warc viewer is to display the content of warcs, right?
23:22 πŸ”— odie5533 the top right view lets you see the item headers.
23:22 πŸ”— joepie91 specific resources in warcs?
23:22 πŸ”— odie5533 And there is an extract button
23:22 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533: bear with me for a second
23:22 πŸ”— joepie91 the point of a warc viewer is to display particular resources in a warc?
23:23 πŸ”— joepie91 so if it cannot reliably do that, how does it not break the functionality?
23:23 πŸ”— odie5533 Yes. And the point of the WebKit viewer is to access the internal proxy right there.
23:23 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533: the technical implementation really isn't relevant
23:23 πŸ”— odie5533 I could add an option to display a single record. but it wouldn't render nicely
23:23 πŸ”— joepie91 when you double click an item, it is supposed to load the web view for that same item that you see in the textbox above
23:23 πŸ”— rover so you have a lot of hard drives?
23:24 πŸ”— joepie91 it does not do that
23:24 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533: for page assets, just grab the first one that is a 200
23:24 πŸ”— odie5533 joepie91: I maybe could make it load the base page correctly
23:24 πŸ”— odie5533 but any other assets would load randomly
23:24 πŸ”— joepie91 but for the actual page itself, it should absolutely show the exact record you selected - that's the point of selecting a record in the first place
23:24 πŸ”— odie5533 well, not randomly. first one
23:24 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533: that is fine, as long as it's the first one that returns a HTTP 200
23:24 πŸ”— joepie91 error responses are not useful there
23:24 πŸ”— odie5533 joepie91: I could probably do that. Maybe. It would be difficult since the code for the proxy is rather separate from the code for the viewer.
23:25 πŸ”— rover megaupload dying was a pretty big hit for archivists
23:25 πŸ”— joepie91 challenge of engineering :)
23:25 πŸ”— joepie91 <rover>so you have a lot of hard drives?
23:25 πŸ”— joepie91 a lot of stuff is stored on archive.org
23:25 πŸ”— joepie91 :)
23:25 πŸ”— joepie91 they -do- have a lot of hard drives
23:26 πŸ”— odie5533 maybe could tell the proxy program to give priority to a single record when the it receives a connection from the proxy
23:26 πŸ”— rover oh you dont store it yourself, you just upload to archive.org
23:26 πŸ”— yipdw it's stored in many places
23:26 πŸ”— yipdw like the Mafia
23:26 πŸ”— odie5533 but the point is that the proxied browser is separate from the navigation app.
23:26 πŸ”— rover the Mafia should take notes
23:27 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533: while I understand that, that's never a good reason to make the application not behave as a user would expect :P
23:27 πŸ”— joepie91 especially not if it means it's not doing what it's supposed to
23:27 πŸ”— odie5533 joepie91: it's a good idea. But I think I'm putting it on the backburner for now since I want large file support more than anything at this point
23:27 πŸ”— joepie91 perhaps it'll require a change of tools, idk
23:27 πŸ”— joepie91 what is missing in terms of large file support
23:27 πŸ”— rover I just download a lot
23:27 πŸ”— joepie91 or broken?
23:28 πŸ”— odie5533 joepie91: indexing
23:28 πŸ”— joepie91 rover: hoarder :)
23:28 πŸ”— rover yeah, I hoard
23:28 πŸ”— joepie91 rover, relevant: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Who_We_Are
23:29 πŸ”— joepie91 rover, you'll probably like talking to godane :)
23:29 πŸ”— joepie91 he downloads pretty much anything that looks like a http or https URI
23:30 πŸ”— joepie91 (which is a good thing)
23:32 πŸ”— odie5533_ joepie91: so, yeah, I'm trying to do the indexing stuff now. Afterwards I'll see if I can add something to prefer the selected record when receiving incoming proxy connections.
23:33 πŸ”— odie5533_ joepie91: I also want to add filters to only show response records. Any other ideas?
23:36 πŸ”— odie5533_ I was thinking of an option to delete a record, replace a record, or add a record.
23:49 πŸ”— joepie91 odie5533_: sorting, and perhaps a timeline view
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