[00:08] ex-parrot: DFJustin: What is the point of holding back these builds like a lot of developers do? Is it a legal agreement with publishers or what? The devs for development hell/vaporware/scrapped games know they have a fan base that would really like to see it. Maybe a stupid question. But asked anyway. :) [00:09] in the context of arcade prototypes I've heard that you have to physically destroy the boards in order for it to qualify as a tax write-off [00:09] but I don't know if that's really true or not [00:10] lots of times you have to completely disable things for tax purposes [00:10] phone museum in seattle got bunch of equipment with all the cables cut, had to fix them manually [00:10] I think it's mostly big company bureaucracy, with smaller studios you do see more of that kind of stuff officially released, like LameDuke [00:10] I think actually the measure is "costlier to repair than replace" [00:11] much like a totaled car [00:11] but in a big company it has to go through legal and 3 layers of management and there's no money angle [00:13] all it takes is one guy in a suit going "it hasn't been tested or trademark cleared or etc, what if we get sued" [00:17] and a lot of times the assets or concepts from canned games do get recycled in some form later [00:18] so the default mentality is always going to be to hoard everything just in case [00:22] like, 1 year later it's "well maybe it'll still come out at some point" and then 10 years later it's "the only copy is on a floppy disk behind the break room fridge demagnetizing" [00:27] so there's usually not much of a window where it's both too old to ever be commercially valuable and new enough that anyone still has it or knows how to compile it [00:28] DFJustin: Not to mention how widely middleware is used these days. [00:28] ah yeah that's gonna be a big obstacle with modern games [00:28] licensing all the third-party libraries [00:30] MAMEDEV has access to some Bally prototypes like Ms. Gorf but they only exist as FORTH source code on 8" floppies so that's been an adventure [00:32] and that's with the dev being cooperative [00:32] Wow, yeah. That'd be a journey. [00:33] I need help please. I am learning Java and using Netbeans. I cannot figure out how to use my vector Vector favoriteGamesVector = new Vector<>(); with two parameters for the objects i create with it.. Game favGame1 = new Game(gameName, gameDescription); and use the vector and objects in a GUI. Have the gameName be in the JComboBox and when you select what game you want and click the JButton it will show the game descripti [00:33] in the JTextField. Can someone help me through private IRC message so we don't clog up -bs [00:33] It would be greatly appreciated. I've been looking online and cannot figure it out. [00:33] and my java book doesn't help with the vector use [00:35] I'll even give a Steam game if you help me figure it out. I have Batman Arkham Asylum GOTY, Red Faction Armegeddon and Guerrilla, and more. You can pick one. Halp! :) [03:12] how the hell do you pronounce 'hyves' [03:15] i assume like hive, bee hive [03:46] I've never realized until recently how much actual control Adobe has over the PDF format- it sucks, even more so because you don't actually notice it until you're hip-deep in documents that only Adobe renders perfectly [08:39] ops please. [08:42] ops please. [08:43] .. failure to process [08:55] i was sleeply and this a picture my brother took when i came out the bathroom: https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1474389_10200158775132128_1802685941_n.jpg [08:56] aww, you're adorable [09:04] fluffy beard [11:48] i updated tekzilla and engadget podcast collections [11:52] http://imageevent.com/afap/wallpapers/movies/thehangover?p=20 [11:52] [08:55:41] < godane> i was sleeply and this a picture my brother took when i came out the bathroom: [11:52] https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1474389_10200158775132128_1802685941_n.jpg [11:52] YIKES [11:53] we found him! [13:06] so i'm using my new bluray discs and i think there sucking [13:07] like i can't play the media on the freaking discs right after burning [13:09] i may know why [13:10] ok now transfer rate jump [13:22] now this is funny [13:22] i'm having problems with RITEX/BR3 [13:22] i have been using BR2 before [13:25] i'm thinking it was the drive going crazy when burning by defaul [13:25] it thought it was a 10x disk [13:26] but its a 6x disk [13:26] also i never burn anything past 4x setting [13:27] the drive sounded like it chainsaw when burn that disk [13:48] lol godane [13:54] godane: any firmware updates for the drive available? [13:56] i'm burning another disk at 4x to see how it goes [13:57] i think the problem was it was trying to go too fast [13:57] and this is a external drive on usb 2.0 speeds [13:58] i can say that these discs color is different [13:59] its more a black color [13:59] the other ones i have burned have more of a violent color [14:00] *violet [14:15] this disk is working way better then before [14:15] it sha256sum 4 files so far [14:15] and 2 are the big tekzilla hd files [14:16] i couldn't even play it really before [14:50] so everything checkout on that disk [15:18] so i just seen a 23andme ad on tv [16:01] so i'm going to see about grabbing the http://ftp.futurenet.com/ files [16:02] i'm using google to see about finding those pdf files [16:04] this sort of is a trick url since this a ftp and http version of ftp.futurenet.com [16:08] hm [16:09] I don't have the permission to see http://ftp.futurenet.com/ [16:09] what's in that ftp server? [16:18] the f.u.t.u.r.e [16:36] the ftp site has tons of old trailers in it [16:37] that is too big for me to grab [16:50] hmm [16:50] maybe I can help you [16:50] how much would you need? [16:51] I still have a few TB's here not filled [16:52] godane (just mentioning your name so you would read this) [18:12] this is me in my thanksgiving hat: https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1486833_10200162250259004_2113868587_n.jpg [18:25] haha cool picture! [18:25] were you also the guy in that video with the top hat on talking about the archive team? [18:25] (don't have the link here...) [18:28] i'm not that guy [18:28] ah hmm [18:28] SketchCow is the guy your talking about [18:28] ah [18:28] well [18:28] the one with a top hat [18:28] thought you were that one, your beard looked a bit like it I thought [18:29] SketchCow is the creater of the archiveteam right? [18:29] i think so [18:30] creator and mascot [18:30] and how old is the archiveteam already now? [18:35] http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1664 [18:37] wow [18:37] 3 years? [18:37] 4* [18:37] :p [18:37] I thought it was a lot older... [18:42] has anyone figured out what cause that fire at IA scanning building? [19:12] Passion [19:29] lol [19:31] "I'm getting so much scanning done today, I'm on fire." [19:31] "No, dude seriously, you ARE on fire!" [19:57] They were scanning items too quickly [19:57] too much friction >_> <_< [19:59] you say dat like it's a baaaaad thing [20:07] does someone have a really old browser running (netscape 4 etc) and could take a shot of https://www.quaddicted.com/webarchive/hosted.planetquake.gamespy.com/spq2/quake1/index.htm for me including GUI? :) [20:08] Schbirid: Oh wooow, that design is classic [20:08] the good old days of accessible, fast, readable websites [22:17] http://blog.hackapp.com/2013/11/how-you-should-never-design-your-app.html [22:17] lol'd [22:20] looooool [22:49] LOL! [22:57] sweet jesus [23:45] the story behind the J.D.Salinger "leak" is quite intriguing [23:45] basically this has been under our noses since 1999 [23:46] the book that got posted showed up on ebay about 5 times in the past year, most in the past few months but once a year ago