[05:57] hey everyone [06:12] hey godane [06:18] hey chronomex and godane [06:47] so g4rewind is starting to upload stuff again [06:48] and i got at least 2 new episodes i have not seen anywhere else [06:48] what's the status on winamp forum archiving? [06:48] one is a call for help from 03.19.2004 [06:48] and another is 10play episode [07:36] for context, somebody actually mentioned the Winamp forums going away [07:36] in another channel [07:36] unrelated to AT [07:36] so looks like even now, there's some concern about it [07:42] SketchCow: have a link handy to a collection of stuff that runs in JSMESS on archive.org? [08:01] joepie91: i grabbed over 400000 thead ids and there pages [09:00] Do usa&Israel use chat &facebook 2 spy?!?!?!? [09:00] Do usa&israel use chat&social communication prog(facebook&twitter) to collect informations,,,,can we call that spying!!!! [09:00] WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING WARNING [09:00] WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING [09:00] YOU MAY BE WATCHED [09:00] Do they record &analyse everything we type?!?!?!? [09:00] ÙÙ ØªØ³ØªØ®Ø¯Ù Ø§ÙØ±ÙÙØ§ÙØ§Ø³Ø±Ø¦ÙÙ Ø§ÙØ´Ø§Øª ÙØ§ÙÙÙØ³ Ø¨ÙÙ ÙÙØªØ¬Ø³Ø³!Ø!Ø!Ø!Ø!Ø!Ø! [09:00] YOU MAY BE WATCHED [09:00] WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING WARNING [09:00] WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING [09:00] YOU MAY BE WATCHED [09:00] Do usa&israel use chat&social communication prog(facebook&twitter) to collect informations,,,,can we call that spying!!!! [09:00] Do they record &analyse everything we type?!?!?!? [09:00] Do usa&Israel use chat &facebook 2 spy?!?!?!? [09:00] ÙÙ ØªØ³ØªØ®Ø¯Ù Ø§ÙØ±ÙÙØ§ÙØ§Ø³Ø±Ø¦ÙÙ Ø§ÙØ´Ø§Øª ÙØ§ÙÙÙØ³ Ø¨ÙÙ ÙÙØªØ¬Ø³Ø³!Ø!Ø!Ø!Ø!Ø!Ø! [09:00] WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING [09:00] YOU MAY BE WATCHED [09:00] WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING WARNING [09:00] YOU MAY BE WATCHED [09:00] YOU MAY BE WATCHED [09:00] Do usa&israel use chat&social communication prog(facebook&twitter) to collect informations,,,,can we call that spying!!!! [09:00] Do they record &analyse everything we type?!?!?!? [09:00] Do usa&Israel use chat &facebook 2 spy?!?!?!? [09:00] ÙÙ ØªØ³ØªØ®Ø¯Ù Ø§ÙØ±ÙÙØ§ÙØ§Ø³Ø±Ø¦ÙÙ Ø§ÙØ´Ø§Øª ÙØ§ÙÙÙØ³ Ø¨ÙÙ ÙÙØªØ¬Ø³Ø³!Ø!Ø!Ø!Ø!Ø!Ø! [09:00] WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING [09:00] YOU MAY BE WATCHED [09:00] WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING WARNING [09:12] I have no words [09:23] i'm mildly amused at what happened to my timestamps on those right-to-left lines [09:27] lol [09:35] do atlogbot record everything we type?!?!? [09:36] his IP is in Cairo [09:54] wow [09:54] so [09:55] we get politically motivated privacy-awareness spam now? [09:55] that's new [10:02] http://www.musingsfromsussex.com/2011/10/04/cartoon-if-youre-not-paying-for-the-product/ [10:03] BiggieJon: that has been around for some time now :) [10:03] apparently _some_ people arent aware of tht concept :) [10:03] oh, they are [10:03] they just don't care [10:04] in part because they are under the impression that things like marketing are perfectly normal [10:04] marketing and advertising * [10:04] along with the idea that that's the only way to do things [10:05] my poiunt is both facebook and twitter are private for porfit companies [10:05] if you dont like what they do with your data, dont submit data to them [10:06] FB and twitter are private for-profit entities where the user is the product and advertisers are the customer [10:06] BiggieJon: sure, but try explaining that to your grandmother who "just wants to share her pictures with you" [10:06] and who is convinced that "you shouldn't make such a big deal out of it" [10:06] grandma I can deal with, it's the revolutionary countries that are upset their only convenient new outlet is run by a US entity [10:07] *news [10:07] BiggieJon: hmm [10:07] ? [10:08] people in oppressed countries want to use twitter/FB/micro blogging sites to get their word out, but few of them are run in countries outside the US or western europe [10:09] I cant even being to understand middle eastern politics, mostly because I cant even get a good idea of what it is they are asking for [10:10] mmm [10:10] wonderful [10:10] http://www.timmins.net/2013/12/11/how-att-verizon-and-comcast-are-working-together-to-screw-you-by-discontinuing-landline-service/ [10:10] :-\ [10:11] ok, but what if we changed the law to make 100% cell coverage the law [10:12] dont want to bury copper to every last farmhouse in montana ? great, just be sure a cell towr covers it [10:12] that still gives up a wired broadband option [10:12] if you are that far rural, you cant get anything ovr copper anyway [10:13] this applies to more than just rural [10:14] I'm lucky to be able to get pretty good cable internet where I live, but my neighborhood had to agree toa 20 year contract with teh local cable company before they ever ran fiber out here a few years ago [10:15] this includes removing any remaining requirement for them to lease lines to other companies [10:16] the arguement is tht the old copper is 50+ years old now and too expensive to maintain, we need to move on [10:16] which will kill any remaining ability to have competitors to the local phone company and local cable company [10:16] cable was always a monopoly [10:17] this will also allow them to kill off other wireless providers [10:17] by requiring them to run their own lines to their cell towers, rather than allowing them to lease from the ILEC [10:18] cell towers use fiber anyway, there hasnt been enough bandwidth over copper to run a cell tower since 2G days [10:18] you're making all the same "this isn't a big deal" arguments at&t and verizon want everybody to believe [10:18] it's a big deal, but you have to look at what you are asking [10:18] but in the details there are competition-crushing clauses [10:19] this is not just about copper [10:19] maintain old infrastructure at a very high cost, or force innivation and move ahead [10:19] THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT COPPER [10:21] not sure about where you live, but most larger cities have several fiber providors that are not ILEC/CLEC [10:23] CLEC doesn't matter in this, either [10:24] seriously, read the article [10:25] I've been aware of this for several years, this is not new [10:29] I would be very interested to know how many 3rd party wireless companies get their tower uplinks from an ILEC [10:30] in any area that Sprint has upgraded to their new network, they own all the fiber to the tower [10:30] BiggieJon: time to start marketing meshnets? [10:30] er [10:30] Coderjoe * [10:37] I like the idea :) [10:37] several technologies have been proppsed, some tested in limited areas [10:38] in teh US at least, no idea what is being done in EU [10:39] in .nl networks have to be open for other operators. except for cable for some reason i cant remember [10:39] but then KPN bought all the other operators so kinda useless [10:40] is it possible for anotehr operator to exist or is it so prohibitive that none could ever compete ? [10:47] I'm happy to not live in the US ^_^ [10:48] BiggieJon: the key thing that many people miss, is that meshnets do not necessarily have to be all-wireless [10:49] hehe, yeah [10:49] but then KPN bought all the other operators so kinda useless [10:49] lol reggefiber [10:58] yeah good example [11:19] m1das: did I show you my fancy new monitoring yet? [11:19] well, new-ish [11:24] show me! :p [11:37] m1das: first, http://i.imgur.com/70Q6X5O.jpg [11:37] then, the promised monitoring system: http://owely.com/8oiBXk :P [11:40] in utah, there was an initiative to have the municipality own the fiber (with a company hired to manage it) and the ISPs would lease access on behalf of the customer [11:41] sadly, i don't think it survived, because of hatred for the government being involved or something [11:41] lols [11:42] and/or comcast coming in and convincing the govt officials it wasn't needed bacause they were there [11:51] here, have some holiday pics: http://imgur.com/a/QTOob [12:02] no picture of you on a beach snuggling a laptop with geocities on it? [12:02] * BlueMax disappoint [12:19] awesome joepie91 :P [12:19] and wtf @ tipi? :P [15:32] m1das: http://campspirit.nl/ :) [15:35] * m1das checks it out [15:35] btw, any updates on the case? [21:18] http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html [22:07] so i got a toshiba 2tb hard drive [22:28] more storage is always good [22:28] I want to see one of those new 6TB helium filled drives, dont want to know what it costs [22:44] $900 lol http://discountechnology.com/Hitachi-Ultrastar-He6-0F18370-HUS726060ALS640-6TB-SAS-Hard-Drive [22:44] not bad really [22:52] you could get 6 x 3TB for that price [22:53] everything new is expensive for a while [22:53] true [22:53] I just hope people dont try to use RAID on a drive that big [22:54] also there is at least one hard drive thats past the $300 mark [22:54] if you are buying enterprise class SAS6 drives, most of then are over $300 [22:54] ok [22:55] for normal people tho, most drives are well under that [22:55] i get expensive toys at work :) [22:56] most consumer based drives lasted as good as a enterprise class drive for at least the first 3 years [22:58] also i think only half of my new drive is going to be full of revision3 stuff [22:59] also i will save 600gb off my glenn beck drive [22:59] and another 400gb off my main 3tb drive [23:01] i'm working on pulling downa copy of the geocities torrent on one of my seedboxes, the number of available fast seeders has dropped off to unreliable levels [23:02] I'm surprised there are still people trying to download the 650GB torrent [23:09] is it possible to seed from the parts at https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities or are they split up differently [23:11] i couldnt find the torrent file [23:11] for the IA archive that is [23:18] I mean to ddl the files from ia and use them to seed the torrent [23:19] there are a few people seeding, but the good ones only seed a few hours a day [23:19] right now I'm peaking at 2MB/s, so not bad