#archiveteam-bs 2013-12-19,Thu

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00:34 πŸ”— kyan_ got warcprox working on python 2.6Ҁ¦ thinking about making a tutorial :)
01:08 πŸ”— godane so i just looked at the old elecplay.com site
01:08 πŸ”— godane turns out there was a vid.elecplay.com where the older videos are
01:09 πŸ”— godane bad news is i can't get them anymore cause the site changed to epdaily.tv last year
01:59 πŸ”— dashcloud kyan_: if you make the certificate trusted in your local cert chain, Firefox is unlikely to complain
02:01 πŸ”— kyan_ dashcloud, thanks. Turned out I had to add it as an authority instead of as a Server certificate, so that it is able to confirm warcprox's other certificates :)
02:01 πŸ”— kyan_ now all I need to do is remember to turn it off later :-S
02:40 πŸ”— dashcloud here's something that looks pretty cool- it's apparently a better, more modern version of gifs: http://apps.stupid-studio.com/
02:40 πŸ”— dashcloud called the Sprite Generator
03:17 πŸ”— touya_ unrelated
03:17 πŸ”— touya_ but cool looking
03:17 πŸ”— touya_ http://earth.nullschool.net/
04:30 πŸ”— dashcloud wow- someone asked their mom to get them a Linux cake, and I'm pretty sure they didn't expect anything like this: http://imgur.com/gallery/BifHL
04:40 πŸ”— kyan_ that is awesome
04:43 πŸ”— Coderjoe sadly, there is a syntax error in there
04:43 πŸ”— Coderjoe as awesome as that cake is
04:47 πŸ”— Coderjoe and makes assumptions about the locale the script will run under
04:55 πŸ”— joepie91 dashcloud: man
04:55 πŸ”— joepie91 bash is a pain to write when you have access to a backspace key
04:56 πŸ”— joepie91 I can only imagine how excruciatingly painful it would be to write bash without one...
05:02 πŸ”— touya_ hey joepie91
05:03 πŸ”— joepie91 touya_: hai
05:05 πŸ”— touya_ so how's project GTB - getting-shit-back doing? :p
05:07 πŸ”— joepie91 no updates
05:27 πŸ”— godane is there anyway i can get money for my archiving?
05:27 πŸ”— godane like real money
06:06 πŸ”— Coderjoe get hired by an archive?
06:06 πŸ”— Coderjoe and/or library
06:07 πŸ”— godane either
06:18 πŸ”— godane so i'm grabbing the hackers - wizards of electronic age
06:18 πŸ”— godane turns out there is a old ogv file out there
06:19 πŸ”— godane i hope IA doesn't think its a audio file
06:34 πŸ”— ivan` other than the corporate archiving services that are already available, I couldn't think of any great business models
06:35 πŸ”— ivan` perhaps paywalled full text search but that requires a little bit of capital investment
06:35 πŸ”— ivan` there is too little demand and people generally ignore tail risks like thing X doing down forever
06:39 πŸ”— kyan not practical at this time but I've fantasized a lot about a unified, centralized global computer network that could archive everything that went through itҀ¦ sort of a cross between Internet Archive, Facebook, Google Play, Freebase, and Mega.co.nz
06:39 πŸ”— DFJustin think the nsa already built that
06:39 πŸ”— joepie91 I was about to say that
06:39 πŸ”— joepie91 also, centralized?
06:39 πŸ”— kyan well it should be publically available!
06:39 πŸ”— joepie91 centralized seems like a bug
06:39 πŸ”— joepie91 not a feature
06:40 πŸ”— kyan I think what the NSA is doing is a step in the right direction both for big data research and combating terrorism, but it should have been with open national discourse
06:40 πŸ”— kyan centralized: not geographically, but storage-wise
06:41 πŸ”— DFJustin hope you got an asbestos suit ;)
06:41 πŸ”— kyan avoid having ten million mp3s of britney, but make sure there are a thousand of britney and a thousand of my friend's cover band
06:41 πŸ”— Coderjoe oh. you want some kind of dedupe
06:41 πŸ”— kyan globally
06:41 πŸ”— kyan yes
06:42 πŸ”— kyan reduce storage needs while ensuring replication of long-tail data
06:42 πŸ”— kyan have a massive nuke-proof server farm inside a mountain on every continent :D
06:42 πŸ”— Coderjoe keeping enough copies for recovery from failure but only as many as needed (like perhaps 2-3 copies per mirror site)
06:43 πŸ”— kyan ok, sureҀ¦ although there's really no such thing as absolute certainty in data preservation
06:43 πŸ”— kyan in 10 million years there are going to be enough flipped bits to screw things up pretty badlyҀ¦
06:44 πŸ”— kyan maybe Scientology is doing the right thingҀ¦ engrave all the world's knowledge on titanium slabs and bury it in the desert!
06:45 πŸ”— kyan </rant>
06:45 πŸ”— kyan (btw I'm not serious about the titanium slabs thing, although I still don't trust magnetic bits)
06:46 πŸ”— Coderjoe we should have something like datacrystal sometime
06:49 πŸ”— Coderjoe but then this: http://www.scifistream.com/wp-content/uploads/crusade_102.jpg
06:49 πŸ”— Coderjoe (from the episode of Crusade named "The Memory War")
06:57 πŸ”— Coderjoe lol
06:57 πŸ”— Coderjoe (all message content (c) 2000 by synthetic worlds, ltd., permission to reprint specifically denied to SFX Magazine)
07:01 πŸ”— Coderjoe er. sorry. ep was "The Needs of Earth"
07:02 πŸ”— Coderjoe http://mutantreviewers.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/111-4.jpg
08:12 πŸ”— kyan thought: (append to earlier rant) strong encryption with two-part, third-party key escrow? that way there wouldn't be the same security risks associated with central information management, but gov't would still be able to access information as neededҀ¦
08:15 πŸ”— joepie91 kyan: I'm missing context?
09:47 πŸ”— godane i got brief video interview of andrew fluegelman
12:43 πŸ”— godane looks like i may have to go back and reupload some ep daily episodes
12:43 πŸ”— godane turns out i have turn on hd to get hd
12:44 πŸ”— godane even thur i was getting video at higher res
12:49 πŸ”— godane this maybe a newer episodes is in 2012
12:50 πŸ”— godane so what do i do?
12:51 πŸ”— godane i just upload new file with same filename and it will over the previous upload
12:54 πŸ”— godane so october 5 2011 episode is way better now
13:00 πŸ”— godane that episode is getting reuploaded with higher bitrate version
14:12 πŸ”— godane i'm starting to upload film riot rev3 series
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