#archiveteam-bs 2014-01-04,Sat

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04:51 πŸ”— joepie91 SketchCow: good news! it looks like my afterhoursdjs archive just quite literally saved afterhoursdjs itself (ref http://www.afterhoursdjs.org/the-future-of-afterhoursdjs-org and http://www.afterhoursdjs.org/archives-found)
04:55 πŸ”— kyan_ joepie91, that's cool!
04:56 πŸ”— kyan_ *very cool
04:56 πŸ”— joepie91 it is :)
04:57 πŸ”— joepie91 quite happy to be able to do so, also
04:57 πŸ”— * joepie91 really doesn't want afterhoursdjs to disappear
06:44 πŸ”— xmc joepie91: rad!
06:45 πŸ”— xmc it was gr8
07:02 πŸ”— joepie91 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJxj1mou03M
07:32 πŸ”— joepie91 http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/smartphone-apps/australian-smartphone-camera-app-snappycam-disappears-from-app-store-without-a-trace-20140104-30ahj.html
07:35 πŸ”— SketchCow joepie91: Need the archive to go into ia proper?
07:35 πŸ”— joepie91 SketchCow: how do you mean?
07:36 πŸ”— SketchCow Are they uploaded to the archive?
07:37 πŸ”— SketchCow Or just stored on FOS?
07:37 πŸ”— SketchCow Or something else?
07:37 πŸ”— joepie91 oh
07:37 πŸ”— joepie91 SketchCow: those are the ones already in the afterhoursdjs_livesets collection, and a bunch of ones that I haven't uploaded yet
07:37 πŸ”— joepie91 will get to that soon
07:37 πŸ”— SketchCow OK.
07:38 πŸ”— SketchCow Just making sure I wasn't needed or something for it.
07:38 πŸ”— joepie91 unless you have spare time, in which case http://baguette.cryto.net/ahdjs.zip :P
07:38 πŸ”— SketchCow You have it, that's good.
07:38 πŸ”— joepie91 but I'll eventually get around to it
07:38 πŸ”— SketchCow Right now we have both space and time
07:38 πŸ”— joepie91 it's some... 29 gigs? I think
07:38 πŸ”— SketchCow Pfft
07:38 πŸ”— joepie91 most of it is tagged with metadata, just hadn't tested the upload script yet
08:04 πŸ”— instence How do you verify an archive file (rar,tar.gz,7z, etc) was built properly? One way is to create an sfv file before packaging the data, package it, then extract and re-check the output against the sfv. Is there a better way to do this?
08:11 πŸ”— SketchCow I do a directory of it and see if it complains.
08:12 πŸ”— SketchCow You can often do a verification run on it too
08:16 πŸ”— instence Hmm yea, I am not seeing anything in winrar that allows that. My primary archive package format is RAR, multi-volume at 100,000,000, with recovery record, Normal Compression, or in certain instances Store
08:19 πŸ”— DFJustin Commands->Test Archived Files in WinRAR
08:20 πŸ”— instence Yea but doesn't that test against potential errors that might have afflicted the files "after" its been compressed? I am wondering if its possible for bad data to write during the actual package build process.
08:21 πŸ”— DFJustin I believe that checks the files against the checksums in the RAR file, I'm not sure if it's possible for those to be bad or not
08:22 πŸ”— DFJustin you could checksum the files with an external tool and compare the results
08:22 πŸ”— instence Yea thats what I was thinking before, about creating an SFV file prior to packaging, package the data, re-extract, and then run the SFV file against the re-extracted data.
08:23 πŸ”— instence Man I really need to get a box with 64GB of RAM to handle this type of stuff (RAMDisk Style). Makes data processing like this a breeze.
08:24 πŸ”— DFJustin well I mean run the files through a crc32 tool, then rar them and compare the crc32s visually (or scrounge something that can print the rar header) coupled with running winrar's "test archived files"
08:24 πŸ”— DFJustin then there is no need to re-extract
08:25 πŸ”— instence hmm yea, good idea
08:25 πŸ”— SketchCow https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=31Jg4GaDojo
08:26 πŸ”— SketchCow P E R F E C T I O N
08:27 πŸ”— instence haha
08:27 πŸ”— instence "That man died in mid wir"
08:27 πŸ”— instence air*
08:28 πŸ”— DFJustin haha I was introduced to this channel just recently
08:30 πŸ”— DFJustin he manages to work the word "titties" into every video
08:30 πŸ”— SketchCow I love it as much as I love the dubstep train and farm simulator videos
08:32 πŸ”— DFJustin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu04U-Yb2qs
09:19 πŸ”— instence Thanks DFJustin for tips on CRC32 comparison. Much appreciated.
09:54 πŸ”— joepie91 SketchCow: I suggested to the afterhoursdjs guy that he maintain a publicly accessible liveset archive; the result is http://archive.afterhoursdjs.org/ :)
09:54 πŸ”— joepie91 cc others
10:32 πŸ”— joepie91 what am I screwing up here? http://sprunge.us/WHVj
10:32 πŸ”— joepie91 (internetarchive python module)
17:03 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: This week in startups is NOT a Revision3 show
17:03 πŸ”— godane but thanks for moving it to computerandtechvideos
17:54 πŸ”— godane http://ollydbg.de/Paperbak/
17:55 πŸ”— godane looks like there is a way to backup old video games on to paper
17:55 πŸ”— BiggieJon hardcopy playthrus ?
18:29 πŸ”— godane would be interesting if we could make cards with barcodes on that can load a rom into jsmess with that barcode
18:29 πŸ”— godane not some barcode link
18:30 πŸ”— godane but to have the full game on paper
18:36 πŸ”— Schbirid not much fits into one
18:37 πŸ”— DFJustin for 8-bit games it would be ok
18:43 πŸ”— DFJustin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktUguF1TnJk
18:44 πŸ”— DFJustin apparently doesn't work in mess :(
18:47 πŸ”— SketchCow That is a hardware modified pet.
18:48 πŸ”— SketchCow No, wait.
18:48 πŸ”— SketchCow Pet 4032
18:48 πŸ”— SketchCow The Amiga 3000 of PETs
19:02 πŸ”— DFJustin aw
19:06 πŸ”— SketchCow The PET 4032 was released three years after the original PET 2001. Although it has the same CPU running at the same speed, improved circuitry allows the 4032 to run substantially faster. Other improvements include more memory and a better keyboard.
19:07 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah, see, this thing is a total redone machine.
19:07 πŸ”— SketchCow So they're conflating the PET 2001 that most people would know with the last revision of business-quality PET.
19:44 πŸ”— kyan_ Is there any way to make sure a WARC is correct for the Wayback machine? I have some that warcvalid likes but I'm extra skeptical about themҀ¦
19:47 πŸ”— SketchCow We can upload them and see
19:48 πŸ”— kyan_ Ok, cool. thanks. :)
19:49 πŸ”— kyan_ (I'm worried about them because they're from a version of warcprox that I altered to work on python 2.6, and it has a penchant for barfing errors everywhere)
19:52 πŸ”— SketchCow Do a small upload, see what the machine does.
19:53 πŸ”— SketchCow Don't blow up terabytes and see what happens.
19:53 πŸ”— kyan_ Sounds like a worthy course of action :)
19:55 πŸ”— kyan_ In the FAQ page for archive.org, regarding uploading book scans, it says "at present, there are rather strict requirements for how the files in an image stack are to be named" Ҁ” is there documentation of those requirements? that's about as much detail as it goes intoҀ¦
20:03 πŸ”— SketchCow We have a bin for book scans done by Just People
20:03 πŸ”— SketchCow http://archive.org/details/folkscanomy
20:04 πŸ”— SketchCow Just upload scans. If you did them yourself, preferably, unless you are sure they're unique
20:13 πŸ”— kyan_ Ok! The item in question is a manual for a range of models of "Perfection Vented Gas-Fired Room Heaters", 108282-G1 Rev. 6/86. I can't find it with a Google search, so I think it's probably a first scan.
20:14 πŸ”— kyan_ It's the first time I've tried doing one, also, so it's not quite good looking :(
20:27 πŸ”— xmc a readable scan is better than a scan that doesn't exist!
20:28 πŸ”— kyan_ xmc, Suppose so :) and hopefully I'll get the hang of them if I do some!
20:28 πŸ”— kyan_ the main issues with this one is warped pages
20:29 πŸ”— kyan_ (also insect damage to the original, but I can't really do anything about that)
21:42 πŸ”— kyan Ok I'm uploading the first real one of my warcproxed items now, a band's youtube channel. Fingers crossed that it works :)
21:48 πŸ”— Schbirid this release is insanely good if you like calm nightly paddy minimal techno https://archive.org/details/stasis19
21:55 πŸ”— kyan Not my current upload but I noticed that this set of WARCs https://archive.org/details/ellogon.big.files.22nov2013a.mn didn't get their CDXs generated correctly for the files over 2Gb. Any thoughts on fixing them?
21:58 πŸ”— DFJustin as far as I can tell there are no specific requirements on book image naming anymore
21:59 πŸ”— DFJustin as long as they're sequential
22:00 πŸ”— xmc yeah, it seems like `find . | sort`
22:01 πŸ”— kyan DFJustin, Oh ok, cool :)
22:02 πŸ”— kyan Actually I just found something else I did with my altered warcprox, https://archive.org/details/WARCPROX20131218193016732Self.Serial12737Elegy8000.warc Unfortunately it looks like something's FUBAR with it since the CDX never showed up for that either.
22:03 πŸ”— DFJustin https://catalogd.archive.org/log/279143884
22:04 πŸ”— kyan "zlib.error: Error -3 while decompressing: incorrect header check" but then a few lines down ".gz is readable, failure is for some other reason"
22:04 πŸ”— kyan seems to be contradicting itself
22:04 πŸ”— * kyan tries making a cdx by hand
23:05 πŸ”— kyan Ok. There is something wrong with the WARCs, for sure. While warcindex indexes them fine, JWAT cdx writes an empty cdx file.
23:06 πŸ”— kyan I don't know how to fix them though :(
23:07 πŸ”— DFJustin hmm it does seem like there is a need for a warcsalvage or unfuckwarc tool
23:08 πŸ”— kyan DFJustin, second that
23:09 πŸ”— kyan Ok I've uploaded the heater manual as a bunch of tarred TIFFs https://archive.org/details/PERFECTIONVentedGas-FiredRoomHeatersManual108282-G1Rev.686 but I have no idea what to do to make it turn it into everything else
23:13 πŸ”— DFJustin rename it to TIFFStack_images.tar and rederive
23:14 πŸ”— DFJustin rederive by going to Edit item on the left side, change the information, Item Manager, derive button
23:16 πŸ”— kyan DFJustin, it's listing it as "NonSource" https://catalogd.archive.org/log/281106542
23:18 πŸ”— DFJustin yeah the _images thing is magic
23:19 πŸ”— DFJustin oh I see you reran it after that
23:20 πŸ”— DFJustin go into 'change the information' and change the file type from TAR to 'Generic raw book TAR'
23:20 πŸ”— DFJustin I guess that isn't automatic if it was renamed
23:57 πŸ”— kyan DFJustin, Thanks! :) The derive seems to be rockin and rollin now.

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