| Time |
Nickname |
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00:17
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/MacrovisionAnalysisOfRecentDVDDeCSSHackNovember151999 is pure gold. |
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00:25
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mistym |
"standard 56kb modem" |
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00:27
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DFJustin |
it's pretty accurate as far as the time goes, just woefully non-forward-looking |
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00:27
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DFJustin |
in 1999 I had a 4.2gb hard drive and dial-up, in a major us city |
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00:29
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DFJustin |
when divx stuff first started coming out I had to use this super optimized DOS player to play at full framerate |
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00:31
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DFJustin |
http://www.multimediaware.com/qv/ |
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00:32
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mistym |
Yeah, very true! I knew people in similar positions. Their wording of "2-3 years" as an eternity really makes it seem they had no plan though |
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00:32
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mistym |
" No Windows required!" |
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00:32
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mistym |
Wait, they take PayPal? This site is a going concern, not just a 90s relic? |
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00:34
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Baljem |
Last updated 8th July 2010 - why? |
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00:35
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Baljem |
and I say that as a relic myself! |
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00:35
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mistym |
Most recent Pro version for DOS released 7 years ago. |
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00:36
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mistym |
"QuickView Pro is a 32 bit protected mode program and therefore needs at least a 80386 processor and a VGA card." |
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00:36
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Baljem |
well, at least it's honest. I was not impressed a couple of years ago to discover that memtest86 needs at least a 386 |
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00:37
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Baljem |
I was trying to run it on an 8086, I figured the '86' meant I was onto a winner! |
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00:37
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DFJustin |
developing countries, impoverished school districts, you'd be surprised |
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00:39
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DFJustin |
http://www.macworld.com.au/features/if-it-aint-broke-dont-fix-it-ancient-computers-still-in-use-45073/ |
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05:09
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godane |
so i think my glenn beck archiving may have to be put on hold |
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05:09
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godane |
i'm not getting any of video today or yesterdays |
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05:09
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godane |
rtmpdump keeps erroring |
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05:18
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godane |
finally getting wilkow |
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05:33
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kyan |
Letting you know, my archivebot computer overheated and died prematurely. :( |
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05:46
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SketchCow |
Bill yahoo! |
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08:23
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joepie91 |
wow, so archivebot now officially killed a server? heh |
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08:41
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midas |
? |
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08:42
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midas |
lol :p |
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08:42
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midas |
can someone archive that? dont use the bot, it might burn down ;-) |
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10:57
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godane |
so i should be able to get most of night line 2013 now |
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10:57
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godane |
i think they had the encoding or time to file name |
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11:04
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godane |
i got a good afternoon america episode |
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11:18
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Smiley |
midas: archive what? |
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11:19
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Smiley |
i'm currently upgrading my kernel so I can run a archivebot in a lxc |
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11:19
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Smiley |
going to try and build on gentoo, if no worky then I'll build on debian |
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11:22
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midas |
Smiley: "06:33:15 kyan | Letting you know, my archivebot computer overheated and died prematurely. :( " |
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11:22
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midas |
archiveteam, breaking all your servers |
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11:23
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Smiley |
:D |
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11:23
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Smiley |
if you melt mine, I'll cry. |
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11:23
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midas |
he joined, said it broke down, and quit :p |
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11:25
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Smiley |
:D |
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13:47
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EpsilonRe |
Archiving USENET |
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13:47
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EpsilonRe |
dashcloud: Early... pre Deja USENET can possibly be recovered from CD produced in the Mid 1990's |
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13:48
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EpsilonRe |
Deja material is still technically on Google albiet buried |
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13:48
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EpsilonRe |
Post Google ( ie post 2002 material) is trickier... |
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13:49
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EpsilonRe |
The first issue is technical, It's not as if you can just pull a torrent of USENET from Google.... |
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13:50
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EpsilonRe |
I would strongly suggest requesting someone with access to a high volume NNTP feed and 'cheap' storage begin to archive 'new' content on USENET in parrallel with google... |
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13:50
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dashcloud |
there was speculation earlier this morning that Google Groups uses a custom JavaScript protocol |
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13:50
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EpsilonRe |
Internally yes... |
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13:50
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EpsilonRe |
Content posted to USENET more wdiely will be over NNTP and UUCP as it always has been |
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13:51
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EpsilonRe |
I.E USENET groups, of alt.* comp.* etc design will still appear on NNTP style feeds with NNTP style headers |
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13:52
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EpsilonRe |
Proprietary groups are not something I am concerned with myself..) |
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13:53
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dashcloud |
create a page on the archiveteam wiki with all the details and your ideas, and then point people to it |
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13:53
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EpsilonRe |
I don't have an account there yet |
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13:53
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EpsilonRe |
And because I'm UK based, what i can request differes... |
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13:55
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dashcloud |
you might find this tool interesting: https://github.com/ZoeB/arcmesg |
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14:01
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EpsilonRe |
dashcloud: Thanks |
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14:02
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EpsilonRe |
dashcloud: USENET content on Google could also be retrived by brute force |
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14:03
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EpsilonRe |
Although you'd need a rather sophistacted generator /scrapper to do that |
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14:03
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dashcloud |
brute force and google isn't usually a hot idea- you certainly can't scrap search results like that |
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14:03
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EpsilonRe |
dsahcloud: The URL's used to find original postings are at least stable... |
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14:04
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EpsilonRe |
Is it worth starting a petition, calling on Google to liberate it's USENET archive to an appropriate archivist? |
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14:04
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EpsilonRe |
There are times when I wonder if Google's forgotten it has groups |
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14:09
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dashcloud |
peitition no- too easy for Google to say no |
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14:09
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EpsilonRe |
and you've already stated a 'manual'extraction would get picked up by their load blancing schemes |
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14:10
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EpsilonRe |
This leaves parrallel archving.... but the loss of pre 2014 material potentially :( |
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14:11
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EpsilonRe |
(Of course it coudl be argued that EVERY Usent posting Google is holding is ptential copyright timebomb...) |
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14:11
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EpsilonRe |
(Or could be in respect of the UK... as you don't give up copyright in letters you write here..) |
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14:50
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godane |
S[h])[r]T: can you look at abcnews.go.com for me? |
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14:51
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godane |
i'm looking for good xml data |
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14:51
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godane |
the current method will need 19 million urls pulled to see which ones have a video link and description |
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14:58
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EpsilonRe |
http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:Sfan00_IMG/USENET |
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15:08
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godane |
i'm uploading 4 xakep (hacker) russian dvds from 2004 |
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15:09
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EpsilonRe |
Hi - I have a request... |
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15:09
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EpsilonRe |
Would it be possible to have a webform for requesting archivals? |
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15:10
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EpsilonRe |
(Such as for sites that appear as Wikipedia citations?) |
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15:10
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EpsilonRe |
Webcite isn't considered as stable... |
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15:19
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EpsilonRe |
OK thanks people |
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15:20
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DFJustin |
EpsilonRe: https://archive.org/web/ has a "save page now" form for individual pages |
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15:21
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DFJustin |
whole sites can be crawled by our ArchiveBot on request |
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15:21
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EpsilonRe |
OK... |
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15:21
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EpsilonRe |
Do you have contacts within Wikipedia/ |
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15:21
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EpsilonRe |
? |
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15:21
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DFJustin |
yes, nemo_bis backs up material from the wikimedia foundation |
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15:22
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EpsilonRe |
And finally this may be of use in respect of software archiving.... |
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15:22
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EpsilonRe |
ftp://bbc.nvg.org/pub/bbc/ |
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15:22
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EpsilonRe |
The supporting website died about a year ago, but the FTP is still up |
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15:22
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EpsilonRe |
Most of it's 'grey' status abandonware sadly :( |
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15:22
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DFJustin |
e-mail it to jason@textfiles.com |
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15:23
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DFJustin |
he's doing most of our ftp grabs |
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16:01
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EpsilonRe |
but it may be oSent |
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16:01
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EpsilonRe |
Sent him a note |
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16:01
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EpsilonRe |
I've also noted some that should be actively excluded |
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16:02
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EpsilonRe |
And noted that efforts should be made to trace original publishers if possible |
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16:02
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EpsilonRe |
Sometimes in approaching the original publishers more material has been uncovered ;) |
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16:04
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EpsilonRe |
Another site worth archiving - http://www.6581-8580.com/soasc_copyright.php - :) |
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16:04
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EpsilonRe |
I like the note at the end ;) |
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16:04
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EpsilonRe |
Also http://www.paula8364.com/ |
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16:52
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EpsilonRe |
Hi |
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16:52
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EpsilonRe |
I'd like an explanation |
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16:52
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EpsilonRe |
http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Sfan00_IMG |
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16:53
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EpsilonRe |
Why is this blocked? |
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17:18
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chfoo |
why the hasty ban? or is that something not my business? |
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17:30
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midas |
hm could be rather harsh, but there might be a reason |
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17:30
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midas |
one does not know if the facts arent there |
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17:43
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SketchCow |
If someone has an issue, msgme. |
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17:49
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mistym |
Did the wiki switch away from spam account filtering during registration because it just wasn't working? |
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18:00
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yipdw |
mistym: I think that filtering's still in place |
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18:00
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yipdw |
the FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD bit |
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18:00
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yipdw |
were you referring to something else? |
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18:02
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mistym |
yipdw: Before that - there were attempts to filter spam accounts |
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18:02
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mistym |
I'm helping someone else who hasn't been able to open public registrations, was wondering what decent options there are. Seems like PRITHEE solution works okay though |
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18:03
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SketchCow |
Ah |
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18:03
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SketchCow |
On another wiki? |
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18:03
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SketchCow |
We had a spam thing. Captcha. |
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18:03
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SketchCow |
that worked for between 40 and 80 milliseconds |
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18:04
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SketchCow |
We had to clean out, oh lord, a couple thousand spam accounts. |
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18:04
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mistym |
Ha |
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18:04
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SketchCow |
GLaDOS and my little australian buddy worked on that, hard. |
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18:04
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SketchCow |
So, the PRITHEE solution is very helpful. |
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18:04
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SketchCow |
(Although with the new guy we may need to change it.) |
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18:05
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SketchCow |
1. It makes them come to IRC and say hello |
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18:05
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SketchCow |
2. It makes them do something in public, i.e. a form of light hazing |
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18:05
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SketchCow |
3. it starts a conversation |
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18:23
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Baljem |
what's up with the new guy? |
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18:23
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Baljem |
(if we should be sizing people up before giving out the secret word, oops, sorry! although I didn't give it to that chap, I have a couple of others...)# |
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18:46
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SketchCow |
You don't have to size people up. |
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18:47
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SketchCow |
Someone who jumps the hurdle of coming to IRC to get the secret word is quite good enough. |
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18:47
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SketchCow |
We're just getting rid of bots and spammers. We can deal with specific people issues down the road. |
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18:48
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mistym |
SketchCow: Yeah, makes sense. No IRC channel for this other wiki, but maybe email is good enough |
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18:48
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SketchCow |
Maybe. |
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18:48
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SketchCow |
See, remember, the wikicultists are very much against any friction for signing on |
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18:48
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SketchCow |
So they might not like something like "mail us" |
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18:49
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SketchCow |
But you could have them text a number. :) |
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18:57
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mistym |
The site admin is not a wikicultist :b She's *already* closed registration altogether because of spam problems. She wants to open it, just in a way that doesn't also open the spam floodgates |
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19:01
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midas |
meh, lostprophets website is gone it seems, i know the singer was wrong but i'd love to grab that site anyway |
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19:48
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Dud2 |
Can I get help with a python script I'm trying to do? (non archive purpose) |
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19:50
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yipdw |
ask the question and I |
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19:50
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yipdw |
oh |
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19:50
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yipdw |
dman |
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19:50
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yipdw |
I was going to say that someone might answer it, but ok |
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19:56
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Dud2 |
Can I still ask? |
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19:58
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Dud2 |
I want to scrape http://bit.ly/1c44Of2 , but I keep getting a 404 error when I try submit data. The code I am using is http://pastebin.com/PCMLyb1e |
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20:26
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Dud2 |
Anyone :3 |
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20:27
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ivan` |
I hope you stick around while I look at it |
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20:29
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Dud2 |
I don't plan on going anywhere (and if I do i look at the logs) :) |
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20:35
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ivan` |
I didn't see anything obviously wrong |
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20:35
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ivan` |
did you try copying and sending the exact POST data that a browser sends? |
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20:38
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Dud2 |
Yes, All I am getting in the temp.htm file is "404 - File or directory not found." |
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20:40
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ivan` |
I don't see you sending __EVENTTARGET __EVENTARGUMENT and maybe more |
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20:57
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Dud2 |
Hmm k, http://pastebin.com/diff.php?i=8YRKUHYD that's updated now but the same |
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21:08
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Dud2 |
I fixed, I was submitting __VIEWSTATEENCRYPTED, but there that isn't on the page at all. It works now. |
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21:08
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Dud2 |
Thanks for your help :0 |
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21:08
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Dud2 |
* :) |
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21:12
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xmc |
ah, fucking asp viewstate |
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22:52
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SketchCow |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgeYCCOWfjQ |
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22:52
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SketchCow |
BIORHYTHM IS JUST A THEORY..... |
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22:52
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SketchCow |
....FOR NOW |
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22:54
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mistym_ |
Oh my goodness that music is charming as hell |