#archiveteam-bs 2014-01-29,Wed

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00:01 πŸ”— SadDM Oh, I dare say that you're quite welcome.
00:02 πŸ”— SadDM I imagine that one of the folks working on ftp sites will be along shortly to chime in.
00:05 πŸ”— balrog kyan: do they track sites on mmnt.net as well?
00:07 πŸ”— kyan SadDM, not sure, I got banned a couple weeks ago
00:07 πŸ”— SadDM Oh well... I *am* new around here.
00:08 πŸ”— kyan balrog, huh, I don't know that websiteҀ¦ I just made the list I linked so the sites I'm doing wouldn't get duplicated by accident
00:11 πŸ”— kyan SadDM, eh, I screwed up in #archivebot trying to give ops to my other computerҀ¦ not trying things over my head again where i'll break stuff
00:11 πŸ”— * kyan doesn't know nothin' about IRC
00:23 πŸ”— kyan also, SadDM: welcome :)
00:27 πŸ”— ivan` kyan: you are welcome and it's /op to op someone ;)
00:27 πŸ”— kyan ivan`, Oh, thanks! I googled "how to give ops" and it gave a really complicated answer
00:28 πŸ”— kyan :-S
00:32 πŸ”— kyan Hah, found the culpritҀ¦ http://www.csun.edu/~webteach/mirc/commands.html
00:32 πŸ”— kyan oh well
00:33 πŸ”— kyan sorry
01:08 πŸ”— kyan still though. not touching things i don't understand.
01:33 πŸ”— dashcloud here's an interesting idea: https://www.crowdtilt.com/campaigns/buyout-chevys-during-rsa-conference If enough money is raised, one of the few affordably-priced food places near the RSA conference will only allow folks w/ BSidesSF, TrustyCon and "Expo Only" badges to buy food there
02:35 πŸ”— yipdw oh shit, Obama threw down on climate change
02:35 πŸ”— yipdw (finally, something)
02:35 πŸ”— yipdw kyan: the ban in #archivebot was lifted
02:37 πŸ”— kyan yipdw, okҀ¦ I've been making my own actually, so no need for me there :)
02:37 πŸ”— kyan thanks for letting me know
06:18 πŸ”— arkhive err.. i need to go to walmart and buy shampoo. Might as well buy other stuff too. woot ~midnight shopping. gotta love 24/7!
06:19 πŸ”— arkhive i'll be staying up until 2am anyway... gotta do some homework. and watch Rubicon(cancelled after one season)
06:21 πŸ”— joepie91 dashcloud: what would you recommend for creating bin/cue on Linux? preferably something that can do error correction (a la ddrescue)
07:30 πŸ”— yipdw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4n_8R5lKnw
09:39 πŸ”— godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/cdrom-linuxformatmagazine-178
10:42 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: can you please give me access to Wilkow collection here: https://archive.org/details/wilkow_show
10:42 πŸ”— joepie91 http://www.iwstack.com/
10:42 πŸ”— joepie91 more clown
10:46 πŸ”— SketchCow godane: You got it
10:49 πŸ”— godane thanks
10:53 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: also this collection: https://archive.org/details/Electronique_et_Loisirs
10:54 πŸ”— godane i got another 4 years worth of magazines of that
10:54 πŸ”— godane it will get us to 100 issues
10:58 πŸ”— godane so looks like computer magazine index is not updated
10:59 πŸ”— godane i only know this cause my cbc spark episode that i think you put in there is still showing up in index
10:59 πŸ”— godane but i know its in godaneinbox when i click on it
11:10 πŸ”— godane i'm starting to upload Svoboda Newspaper to my godaneinbox
12:11 πŸ”— SketchCow I will eventually clean up your contributions and materials.
12:11 πŸ”— SketchCow I am doing a lot of things, so I set aside time for it as I go
12:11 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm just finally getting on top of my crap here at home.
12:11 πŸ”— dashcloud joepie91: I've always used cdrdao - there may be a better software package, or set of switches for it, but this is the article I relied on: http://miketeo.net/wp/index.php/2008/05/10/creating-bincue-files-on-linux.html
12:12 πŸ”— dashcloud the dosbox wiki recommends a much more involved command for making bin/cue files: http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Cuesheet I don't know if that is necessarily better than the other article though
12:12 πŸ”— joepie91 dashcloud: thanks
12:14 πŸ”— SketchCow I use ISOdisk
12:41 πŸ”— joepie91 http://startupsanonymous.com/story/were-shutting-down-and-im-scared/ cc SketchCow
12:53 πŸ”— godane i got the state of the union address from The Blaze
13:03 πŸ”— SketchCow That's quite a silly little story.
13:03 πŸ”— SketchCow Hope they didn't have user content
13:15 πŸ”— godane so blogcastfm.com got saved luckly
13:15 πŸ”— godane i uploaded my dump from 2013-10-31
13:16 πŸ”— godane i'm going to upload all the mp3s from this dump as a zip file
13:17 πŸ”— godane mostly cause i'm going to be lazy with metadata grabbing this one
13:17 πŸ”— godane 2. this makes sure you guys just have a copy of it before a forget where i put it
14:50 πŸ”— midas who was scanning the entire ipv4 range for FTP's again?
14:55 πŸ”— midas just saying, when i get disconnected, my ISP might killed my connection
15:22 πŸ”— joepie91 lol
15:49 πŸ”— midas SketchCow: got some 3500 ftps now, still 10 hours to go.
15:50 πŸ”— kyan speaking of ftps, I've got ftp://140.136.150.153/ done and uploaded
16:12 πŸ”— kyan A year ago I would never have guessed I'd be downloading Croatian surveillance camera driversҀ¦
16:45 πŸ”— DFJustin http://bibliocracy-now.tumblr.com/post/74860540852/order-paper-reveals-dfo-library-situation-far-worse
16:56 πŸ”— joepie91 https://vpsboard.com/topic/3398-gotcha/
16:56 πŸ”— joepie91 IA <3
17:25 πŸ”— SketchCow Great
18:41 πŸ”— dud3 Can I ask why I was banned from joining?
18:42 πŸ”— ivan` joining what?
18:45 πŸ”— dud3 Joining the chat on an irc I get told "You have been D-lined."
18:45 πŸ”— ivan` you'd have to take that up with whoever is running your efnet server
18:45 πŸ”— ivan` or use another one
18:46 πŸ”— ivan` most likely they hate all mibbit users
18:46 πŸ”— dud3 How do I find that out?
18:46 πŸ”— dud3 I was using HexChat
18:46 πŸ”— ivan` find what out?
18:46 πŸ”— ivan` hm
18:46 πŸ”— dud3 Who is running the efnet server.
18:47 πŸ”— RedType_ dud3: wizards
18:47 πŸ”— ivan` the /motd should have said who runs it
18:47 πŸ”— ivan` you might also see it in your logs
18:47 πŸ”— RedType_ contact an ircop
18:48 πŸ”— dud3 Sorry first i was told "You are banned from this server- K-lined" then it was d-lined. Okay any of them that are on here or somewhere else?
18:50 πŸ”— arkiver so I saw this page
18:50 πŸ”— arkiver https://monitor.archive.org/weathermap/weathermap.html
18:50 πŸ”— arkiver does someone know what the "HE", "ISC", "Internet2" and "iSCSI" are?
18:51 πŸ”— ivan` dud3: just use another server
18:51 πŸ”— ivan` e.g. irc.shoutcast.com
18:52 πŸ”— ivan` one common reason is your IP being in an open proxy database
18:52 πŸ”— ivan` make sure you are not owned or running an open proxy
18:52 πŸ”— ivan` if you can cycle your dynamic ip, that might help if the previous customer was doing bad things
18:54 πŸ”— dud3 I have a static ip and have for a few years. I'm not running any proxy (I do have a vpn that I use the odd time)
18:55 πŸ”— Smiley arkiver: HE: Hurrican eletric a IPv6 tunnel,
18:55 πŸ”— DFJustin "Internet2" is presumably a connection to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet2
18:55 πŸ”— Smiley ISC internet security centre?
18:55 πŸ”— ivan` /stats p will list your ircops
18:55 πŸ”— Smiley Internet2 is the internet that uni's and other odd things have access to
18:56 πŸ”— Smiley iSCSI is scsi over... something :D
18:56 πŸ”— arkiver ah haha
18:56 πŸ”— arkiver thank you
18:56 πŸ”— arkiver so where do the upload through the S3 keys upload go thru?
18:56 πŸ”— Smiley google woujld of answered all of those tho D:
18:57 πŸ”— Smiley arkiver: they go directly to IA i believe?
18:57 πŸ”— arkiver hmm not sure
18:57 πŸ”— arkiver but I think one of those four is the connections to the internet
18:57 πŸ”— arkiver so the uploads should go though one fo those 4 channels (or however you call that)
18:58 πŸ”— arkiver just interested to see what it can handle
18:58 πŸ”— arkiver the bandwidth for uploading items
19:00 πŸ”— Smiley errrr
19:00 πŸ”— Smiley HE+Inet2+ISC == total connections into IA from that graph.
19:00 πŸ”— Smiley Wait nope, sorry, Inet2+HE only.
19:00 πŸ”— arkiver ah hmm
19:01 πŸ”— Smiley So right now about 1Gb/time_frame
19:02 πŸ”— arkiver maybe a newbie question
19:02 πŸ”— arkiver but the "G"
19:02 πŸ”— arkiver is gigabyte?
19:02 πŸ”— arkiver or gigabit?
19:02 πŸ”— Smiley bit normally in networking.
19:03 πŸ”— arkiver so only 134.4 megabyte is being upload per timeframe by users??
19:03 πŸ”— Smiley atm yes?
19:03 πŸ”— Smiley If thats a graph of ALL traffic.
19:03 πŸ”— arkiver yeah
19:03 πŸ”— arkiver looks like it
19:03 πŸ”— arkiver well
19:04 πŸ”— arkiver you think I can uplaod at 500 megabit per second to it?
19:04 πŸ”— arkiver think so looking at the graph
19:04 πŸ”— arkiver and the percent it is now using from the HE connection
19:04 πŸ”— arkiver and Internet2 connection
19:21 πŸ”— yipdw Smiley: ISC is likely the Internet Systems Consortium
19:21 πŸ”— yipdw (in the weathermap context)
19:21 πŸ”— yipdw they produce, among other things, BIND
19:21 πŸ”— Smiley aaaah ye\h
19:21 πŸ”— arkiver ah thank you
19:22 πŸ”— arkiver and yipdw this is in megabit right?
19:22 πŸ”— yipdw I don't know
19:22 πŸ”— arkiver or megabytes?
19:22 πŸ”— arkiver ah
19:22 πŸ”— arkiver just interesting to look at it and what the archive is doing
19:22 πŸ”— arkiver some time ago during a offline time
19:23 πŸ”— yipdw I suspect the links to ISC, I2, and HE are there because IA is directly peered with those ASes
19:23 πŸ”— arkiver I saw the whole ia6*** part shut down if I remember that well
19:23 πŸ”— yipdw er
19:23 πŸ”— yipdw in the case of I2, some AS
19:24 πŸ”— yipdw there is definitely a direct IA-HE link
19:24 πŸ”— arkiver so HE is where the user uploads come in?
19:24 πŸ”— yipdw you can pop on http://lg.he.net and punch in e.g. archive.org
19:24 πŸ”— yipdw not guaranteed, no
19:24 πŸ”— yipdw if you want to find out your route, traceroute to it
19:25 πŸ”— arkiver will take a look at that then
19:25 πŸ”— yipdw all that map (seems to) indicate is IA's connections to the outside world plus points of interest in their system
19:26 πŸ”— yipdw it says nothing about what route you will take
19:26 πŸ”— yipdw frankly, I'm surprised that's publci
19:26 πŸ”— yipdw public
19:27 πŸ”— yipdw many organizations don't publish much information about their networks
19:27 πŸ”— Smiley s3.us.archive.org
19:27 πŸ”— Smiley 13 isc.10gigabitethernet5-2.core1.pao1.he.net (65.49.10.214) 184.494 ms 184.514 ms
19:28 πŸ”— Smiley So yeah, he.net
19:28 πŸ”— yipdw for you
19:28 πŸ”— yipdw here's one from a host I'm currently on: https://gist.github.com/yipdw/20a932a88940ec6afe44/raw/80e3c408c0f3bcc579b6215ebfa6509f107f9604/gistfile1.txt
19:28 πŸ”— yipdw but
19:28 πŸ”— Smiley yipdw: presuming theres only that and internet2, and i'm not at a uni :D
19:28 πŸ”— yipdw here's one from my laptop:
19:28 πŸ”— yipdw https://gist.github.com/yipdw/72d34a9c0e798cccbd3c
19:29 πŸ”— Smiley oh interesting, ISC is also peering then.
19:29 πŸ”— yipdw as you can see, the weathermap alone is not enough information
19:29 πŸ”— yipdw Smiley: yeah
19:29 πŸ”— yipdw I suspect that is why ISC is in that map
19:29 πŸ”— yipdw :P
19:29 πŸ”— arkiver yes I see
19:29 πŸ”— Smiley Guess it's not supprising really, redunancy etc
19:29 πŸ”— DFJustin I remember hearing they have two 10gige connections to the outside now
19:29 πŸ”— yipdw if you can find out IA's AS numbers, you'll be able to find out all of their peers
19:30 πŸ”— DFJustin so I guess each is on a different peer
19:30 πŸ”— yipdw AS information is public, so
19:30 πŸ”— yipdw yeah
19:30 πŸ”— arkiver DFJustin: total of 20gbit?? O.o
19:30 πŸ”— arkiver I can use the full 500 mbit then I think
19:30 πŸ”— DFJustin and I would assume the numbers are in bits/sec
19:31 πŸ”— arkiver going to get a better connection in some time
19:32 πŸ”— yipdw I should have that weathermap open when I was uploading wretch
19:32 πŸ”— arkiver haha
19:32 πŸ”— arkiver yes
19:33 πŸ”— arkiver yipdw: http://p.defau.lt/?EhO6n_E45JN4GzsGwOCzAQ
19:33 πŸ”— arkiver this is something from help?
19:33 πŸ”— kyan traceroute from my laptop: http://hastebin.com/raw/hibakaceyi
19:33 πŸ”— yipdw arkiver: as you can see, your upload experience depends not only on IA and HE but also fastwebnet and whatever the hell is before it
19:33 πŸ”— kyan it seems like university connections go through internet2?
19:33 πŸ”— arkiver :( yes
19:33 πŸ”— yipdw the real answer is "try it and see what happens"
19:34 πŸ”— yipdw kyan: if you're on I2
19:34 πŸ”— arkiver haha well
19:34 πŸ”— arkiver I'll wait till I have that new speed
19:34 πŸ”— arkiver and then I'll tell you if I can really get to 62.5 megabyte per second
19:34 πŸ”— arkiver :P
19:34 πŸ”— kyan well it showed up in my tracerouteҀ¦ It is certainly quite fast compared to other things (usually a connection from here is ~1mbps, IA is ~3)
19:37 πŸ”— yipdw I actually like looking at trans- and inter-continental traceroutes like this
19:37 πŸ”— yipdw because it's a reminder how mindbogglingly fast all this shit is
19:38 πŸ”— yipdw in particular I think it's neat that ISC seems to have a direct link between Chicago and Palo Alto
19:39 πŸ”— yipdw actually, so does HE
19:39 πŸ”— yipdw the London -> New York connection is also neat (to me)
20:23 πŸ”— SadDM some interesting stuff here: http://www.kinephanos.ca/2014/history-of-games-international-conference-proceedings/
20:24 πŸ”— SadDM particularly: http://www.kinephanos.ca/2014/preserving/
20:33 πŸ”— arkiver http://eterni.me/
20:33 πŸ”— arkiver interesting that one
20:34 πŸ”— arkiver (already saved it in wayback)
20:37 πŸ”— SadDM That reminds me of the guy who works/worked for Microsoft Research who was digitising his entire life
20:37 πŸ”— * SadDM wonders what his name was
20:38 πŸ”— SadDM Gordon Bell: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/mylifebits/
20:51 πŸ”— DFJustin newsgroups are starting to fill in https://archive.org/details/usenet-alt.sex
20:52 πŸ”— DFJustin lotta ball fans apparently
20:52 πŸ”— arkiver DFJustin: is the archive going to save all usenet things???
20:52 πŸ”— arkiver just everything??
20:53 πŸ”— DFJustin everything except binaries
20:54 πŸ”— arkiver hmm
20:54 πŸ”— arkiver I really know nothing about usenet
20:54 πŸ”— arkiver what are the binaries from usenet exactly?
20:55 πŸ”— DFJustin usenet was originally for text posts, at some point in usenet's history people figured out that you could encode binary files into ASCII using e.g. base64 and post them
20:56 πŸ”— DFJustin it eventually became one of the primary methods for pirates to distribute initial releases of software, movies, etc.
20:56 πŸ”— kyan i thought uuencode was more a usenet thing than base64, but idk, never used it...
20:56 πŸ”— DFJustin yeah I was just drawing a blank
20:56 πŸ”— arkiver ah I see
20:57 πŸ”— arkiver how big is the usenet going to be on the IA?
20:57 πŸ”— DFJustin so there are dedicated newsgroups for binaries under alt.binaries.* but they're so huge that many carriers omit them or have a highly restricted amount of days' worth of retention
20:57 πŸ”— arkiver (not the binaries counted)
20:57 πŸ”— DFJustin no clue
20:59 πŸ”— DFJustin even long-running and popular newsgroups seem to max out at a couple hundred mb in these mbox.gz dumps so I don't expect it to be too big by our standards
20:59 πŸ”— arkiver like
20:59 πŸ”— arkiver 100 GB?
20:59 πŸ”— arkiver or 1 TB?
21:00 πŸ”— arkiver think around that
21:00 πŸ”— DFJustin I would expect under 100 gb
21:00 πŸ”— arkiver haha yeah
21:00 πŸ”— arkiver that's not a lot
21:00 πŸ”— arkiver :P
21:00 πŸ”— arkiver it's great to see this new project from the IA
21:00 πŸ”— DFJustin lemme check the other collection
21:00 πŸ”— arkiver all archiving and saving and stuff
21:01 πŸ”— DFJustin the usenethistorical collection is 663GB
21:01 πŸ”— DFJustin so this one may actually hit 1tb
21:06 πŸ”— DFJustin the majority of that is going to be spam though
21:08 πŸ”— midas what is? i kinda miss 6 hours of IRC.
21:09 πŸ”— DFJustin the usenet archive
21:10 πŸ”— midas ah yes
21:19 πŸ”— arkiver DFJustin: well, spam or not, it is history and needs to be saved... :D
21:25 πŸ”— DFJustin oh don't get me wrong I'm ecstatic
21:29 πŸ”— arkiver not sure what ecstatic means but, oke! :)
21:29 πŸ”— arkiver OK*
21:31 πŸ”— DFJustin Of the nature of ecstasy or exalted feeling; characterized by, or producing intense emotion (now chiefly pleasurable emotion). Of persons: Subject to rapturous emotion. (See ecstasy n. 4.)
22:36 πŸ”— SketchCow A tropical fish importer based out of JFK airport pled guilty today to illegally shipping in nearly 40,000 piranhas.
22:36 πŸ”— SketchCow That is mildly interesting.
22:36 πŸ”— SketchCow Much more hilarious is that they did it by mislabeling them.
22:37 πŸ”— SketchCow They labelled them as Silver Tetras
22:37 πŸ”— SketchCow That is the greatest mislabelling ever
22:37 πŸ”— SketchCow That's like calling a live hand grenade a "decorative paperweight"
22:37 πŸ”— SketchCow I owned a tetra, just like anyone who has gotten a single coin onto a dish at a fair
22:38 πŸ”— DFJustin are piranhas really that dangerous singly though
22:41 πŸ”— Baljem hahaha, what sort of fucking idiot fell for it though?
22:41 πŸ”— Baljem "oh, yeah, that looks like a tetra all right"
22:44 πŸ”— SketchCow mmm, silver tetra
22:44 πŸ”— SketchCow Woah, little guy is hungry
22:44 πŸ”— SketchCow Why is every fishtank for a half mile entry
22:44 πŸ”— SketchCow empty
22:45 πŸ”— SketchCow Single pirhanas are dangerous
22:46 πŸ”— SketchCow "Piranha are very dangerous in shoals, but a single piranha would be lucky to take off a finger on its own."
22:46 πŸ”— SketchCow Says Yahoo Questions
22:46 πŸ”— SketchCow I love the idea of the Pirhana being "Lucky"
22:46 πŸ”— SketchCow Red letter day in the pirhana's calendar
22:46 πŸ”— SketchCow "Fuck those assholes in the shoal, I didn't skip finger day"
22:56 πŸ”— xmc chicken nugget on the hoof every tuesday
23:24 πŸ”— godane i'm updating tekzilla collection
23:59 πŸ”— midas I have no idea what kind of data im pulling in. what the heck are .DS files?
23:59 πŸ”— DFJustin http://i.imgur.com/rvYK59U.gif
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