| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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01:06
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dashcloud |
damn that's awesome |
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01:35
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Leo_TCK |
did he give a list of what cds he got? or is he just gonna surprise upload them? |
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02:29
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SketchCow |
Surprise! |
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02:36
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BlueMax |
well ain't that gonna be fun |
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02:46
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yipdw_ |
cmake is so maddening |
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02:46
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yipdw_ |
I'm trying to figure out how to shell out as part of a custom target |
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02:47
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yipdw_ |
add_custom_target and execute_process are both cmake commands, but composing them together is full of SURPRISE |
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02:53
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yipdw_ |
oh, appearently the answer is to not use execute_process, because that's meant to be used to execute a program at configure time |
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03:30
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mistym |
Anyone know a decent place to get old Windows versions? Looking for Windows 2.0ish |
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04:00
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SketchCow |
Trying to collect as I can |
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05:05
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BlueMax |
used to know a good place for old windows versions but now I'd be damned if I could remember |
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05:43
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DFJustin |
http://wdl2.winworldpc.com/Abandonware%20Operating%20Systems/PC/Microsoft%20Windows/ |
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09:53
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midas |
stupid robots.txt |
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11:08
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dashcloud |
on the subject of old software versions, this site is pretty comprehensive: http://vetusware.com/ |
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11:08
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dashcloud |
there's a group trying to re-create Opera v12 here: http://otter-browser.org |
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12:41
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balrog |
dashcloud: yeah, there's no easy way to archive that site though |
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12:41
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balrog |
even with the highest membership you only can do 10 downloads per day |
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14:27
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DFJustin |
there was a mirror at http://files.wehack.net/Vetusware/ that seemed pretty comprehensive |
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14:27
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DFJustin |
it seems down now but archivebot grabbed it |
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14:27
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DFJustin |
https://archive.org/download/archiveteam_archivebot_go_024/files.wehack.net-inf-20140128-223321-bfv4w.warc.gz |
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16:40
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ohhdemgir |
how was archiveteam getting 4chan? |
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16:42
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DFJustin |
I don't think we are specifically, jason has some older archives that I think he was given |
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16:43
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ohhdemgir |
I used to archive sma with https://code.google.com/p/libchan/ and it no longer works, looking for a new automated method |
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17:00
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ersi |
Ouch, no development since 2012 |
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17:04
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DFJustin |
there was this story recently https://library.stanford.edu/blogs/digital-library-blog/2014/01/sdr-deposit-week-4chan-forum-archives |
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17:05
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DFJustin |
maybe these yotsuba society folks have a tool |
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17:21
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RedType |
DFJustin: i think it's more a combination of their crawler as well as sites such as 4chan archive |
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17:21
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RedType |
thought* |
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17:50
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underscor |
This is a very Cool Thing |
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17:50
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underscor |
http://pywb.herokuapp.com/ |
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17:50
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underscor |
Check out the twitter scrolling that works! |
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17:50
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underscor |
Even facebook too |
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17:50
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underscor |
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/openwayback-dev/MAFY4Q0Jo8Y/nsHKReRwfyAJ |
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17:58
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arkiver |
wow |
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17:58
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arkiver |
ay idea how they are doing that? |
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17:58
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arkiver |
any* |
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17:59
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arkiver |
hmm |
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17:59
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arkiver |
http://pywb.herokuapp.com/pywb/*/https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2179744751/IIPC_Twitter_ProfilePic_bigger.gif |
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17:59
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arkiver |
same as wayback |
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18:00
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arkiver |
not he interface, but the way of the urls |
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18:00
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arkiver |
with the * |
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18:01
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underscor |
https://github.com/ikreymer/pywb |
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18:01
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underscor |
It's a (nearly) feature-complete rewrite of the wayback machine in python by the engineer who wrote a lot of the old wayback components |
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18:02
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underscor |
including the new "save-page-now" feature and the new api that was released on 10/24/13 |
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18:02
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arkiver |
wow |
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18:02
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underscor |
(pywb is fully unaffiliated with IA, though) |
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18:02
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arkiver |
gosh, IA could look at the code and implement facebook and twitter crolling in heritrix... |
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18:03
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arkiver |
but it creates warc.gz files |
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18:03
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arkiver |
so it should work with wayback |
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18:09
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underscor |
the big issue is that java wayback doesn't support domain specific rules |
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18:10
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underscor |
which you really need to playback weird ajaxy content |
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18:10
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underscor |
certain headers, certain string manipulations, etc |
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18:10
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DFJustin |
isn't it doing something custom for youtube |
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18:11
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underscor |
kinda |
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18:11
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underscor |
but it's very hacky |
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18:11
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underscor |
and not scaleable at all |
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18:12
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underscor |
also youtube doesn't require nearly as many "special" things, since it just replaces the yt player with a custom jw one |
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18:12
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underscor |
jwplayer* |
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18:13
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DFJustin |
it also seems to redirect you if there is a grab of the same video with different url parameters |
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18:24
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arkiver |
is there an example in the wayback machine with a youtube page that actually plays a video? |
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18:24
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arkiver |
I actually have never found such a video |
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18:29
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DFJustin |
hmm the one I saved before doesn't work anymore, it seems kind of inconsistent |
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18:35
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arkiver |
yes |
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18:36
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arkiver |
but man the wayback machine is showing pages better and better |
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18:36
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arkiver |
http://web.archive.org/web/20140312182903/https://www.uber.com/ |
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18:36
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arkiver |
looks great |
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18:37
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arkiver |
DFJustin: they are crawling youtube videos: https://archive.org/details/youtubecrawl |
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18:37
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arkiver |
but just blocking the |
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18:37
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arkiver |
m |
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18:38
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DFJustin |
I don't think they're blocking them so much as the wayback hack stuff is flaky |
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18:45
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DFJustin |
you can see how it works with the archive-it ones https://wayback.archive-it.org/4399/20140301235240/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1Q1p7Oc_5g |
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18:46
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arkiver |
Ah I see, thank you |
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18:47
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arkiver |
but why don't they just add that to the IA wayback machine too then? |
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18:51
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DFJustin |
the code is in place it's just not working, probably because they have no manpower to fix everything all the time |
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18:52
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arkiver |
ah, well, it's good to see the information is saved, even though it's not playable |
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19:02
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yipdw_ |
another really annoying problem with infinite scrollers is that some sites (i.e. patch.com) shove a timestamp into the URL |
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19:03
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yipdw_ |
so recording the request/response is insufficient |
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19:03
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yipdw_ |
this is the result of voodoo web programming by people who think that cache-busting needs to be done with fucking the query string |
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19:39
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DFJustin |
yeah seen a bunch of ?nocache=137891278941 stuff in archivebot |
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19:43
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ohhdemgir |
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2091d4/i_am_tim_bernerslee_i_invented_the_www_25_years/ |
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19:45
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Coderjoe |
well, URL-based cache busting is sometimes needed to get around stupid caching proxies that don't respect the cache control headers |
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19:52
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DFJustin |
oh myspace brought old photos back |
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20:02
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balrog |
DFJustin: did they bring journal content back too? |
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20:03
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DFJustin |
the email only mentions photos |
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20:08
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yipdw_ |
Coderjoe: I maintain that the blame is still on shitty web programmers who expect that they will always be able to expect a request from a browser |
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20:09
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yipdw_ |
and designing their applications on faulty assumptions |
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20:18
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Coderjoe |
I hate sites where all I get is a blank page until I start blessing javascript |
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20:59
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exmic |
I hate a lot of things |
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20:59
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exmic |
I practice hate-driven development |
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21:00
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arrith |
i hear that's good for your health |
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23:43
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nico |
http://redmine.replicant.us/projects/replicant/wiki/SamsungGalaxyBackdoor |
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23:43
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nico |
dashcloud: :) |