#archiveteam-bs 2014-03-14,Fri

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01:51 🔗 godane now this is funny
01:51 🔗 godane i got a WMUR clip from my nbc video dump
01:52 🔗 godane WMUR is local network in NH
02:05 🔗 SketchCow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:David_Copperfield_(illusionist)#Copperfield_is_Twins:_How_Might_This_Be_Covered.3F
02:05 🔗 SketchCow Here's me causing trouble.
02:24 🔗 Lord_Nigh theyve pr whitwashed it from wikipedia before i guess?
02:27 🔗 dashcloud this may be of interest to some folks: there's a group of people working on making Windows 98 and earlier work on mostly-modern hardware- http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/107001-compatible-hardware-with-windows-9x/
03:38 🔗 yipdw dashcloud: wow
03:38 🔗 yipdw when I hate computers, I usually just bash them with bats
03:38 🔗 yipdw but those people are hardcore
07:13 🔗 godane so i know got a interview of tom hanks talking about the movie 'You've Got Mail'
07:13 🔗 godane *know=now
09:26 🔗 midas SketchCow: eth0
09:27 🔗 midas small dutch hacker meeting, have a complete mirror already for all video's, they helped with HAR etc
11:28 🔗 godane so i funny little thing another nbc today show episode
11:29 🔗 godane the november 29, 2010 page links to the the december 3, 2010 episode
11:31 🔗 godane turns out its not some miss labled episode but really december 3 2010 episode
11:32 🔗 godane even funnier is the i think they used the right picture for this episode
11:32 🔗 godane cause the closes they were are different
11:37 🔗 arrith quite the change up
14:11 🔗 DFJustin https://twitter.com/BadAtNetworking
15:15 🔗 ohhdemgir youtube is going down, what do?
15:19 🔗 midas ..
15:20 🔗 midas we be fucked.
15:23 🔗 DFJustin http://blog.archive-it.org/2014/03/13/introducing-archive-it-4-9-and-umbra/
15:24 🔗 ohhdemgir midas, too right, I archived a single channel last night, 500GB+ of data last I checked it
15:25 🔗 antomatic There must be an interesting/good way to archive youtube...
15:26 🔗 antomatic maybe approach it in the same way as generating rainbow tables (e.g. all 8-letter passwords, all 9-letter passwords, and so on) - just capture every video that runs for 1 second, then all the 2-second ones, then the threes, and so on...
15:26 🔗 ohhdemgir antomatic, yeah, find all channels with the most content and work our way down to the shit/abandoned stuff.
15:27 🔗 ohhdemgir (or)
15:27 🔗 ohhdemgir but still, we wouldn't get it all
15:28 🔗 ohhdemgir and then how would we deal with the multiple copies of random shit, it'd be best to get it from the person who uploaded it first and ignore the rest
15:28 🔗 DFJustin you can probably do a global search for view count
15:29 🔗 antomatic or maybe capture according to original upload date, possibly
15:29 🔗 antomatic That way you could also create some kind of 'browse youtube as it was five years ago' kind of thing
15:30 🔗 ohhdemgir the end result has to be organised by uploader though right, or?
15:30 🔗 antomatic "Welcome to YouTube 2006 - please enjoy all 35 of our videos."
15:30 🔗 SketchCow Currently, Internet Archive will automatically archive any youtube link that is tweeted
15:33 🔗 ohhdemgir it's mainly high quality educational / guru type channels I'm worried about disappearing, or long running v/blogs
15:43 🔗 antomatic In which case the only question there is how to identify such material.
15:45 🔗 balrog SketchCow: does web.archive.org/save work for youtube?
15:51 🔗 midas there is a channel about this: #youscoop
15:54 🔗 balrog too....many....channels
15:54 🔗 SketchCow I am very busy today
15:55 🔗 SketchCow <@SketchCow> Currently, Internet Archive will automatically archive any youtube link that is tweeted
15:55 🔗 SketchCow I thought that answered the question.
15:58 🔗 ohhdemgir sooo, if I tweet out videos I want to save, IA grabs it.. neat
15:59 🔗 ohhdemgir umm, what happens if a bot is written to crawl yt and post links to twitter.. :o
16:00 🔗 midas we would still miss metadata, that's why there is that channel, trying to add channels with metadata and get that into the archive ;)
16:01 🔗 midas ohhdemgir: btw, did you ever tried to backup all your data to lets say, backblaze or crashplan? just to see what they say?
16:02 🔗 ohhdemgir nope
16:04 🔗 midas i wonder how they would react if someone started to upload /dev/random to them and they noticed it was getting near 300TB+
16:04 🔗 midas pure random data
16:04 🔗 ohhdemgir try it
16:04 🔗 midas i might yeah, just to see what happens
16:05 🔗 ohhdemgir obfuscate it somehow, make it look like it's an encrypted file, cause some sensationalist headlines on tech blogs I'm sure
16:09 🔗 ohhdemgir I wonder how big the largest arrays are and how/if they would accommodate a constant flow of traffic should they actually allow it
16:12 🔗 antomatic ISTR that the larger online backup services incrementally slow down the speed at which they accept uploads from you, as you use more and more storage
16:13 🔗 antomatic So by the time you were anywhere near close to even double-digit terrabytes, your upload would likely be so slow that you'd never finish
16:14 🔗 ohhdemgir eww that's terrible!
16:25 🔗 antomatic The last time I looked at the Carbonite user agreement (it has changed now) it said something along the lines that they reserve the right to terminate your account at any time if you were to exceed an amount of storage 'greater than the average' of Carbonite customers.
16:25 🔗 antomatic Which makes me think that they don't know what the word 'average' actually means.
16:28 🔗 antomatic (but also that they clearly did not enforce that term strictly, as otherwise they would have had no customers at all)
16:29 🔗 ohhdemgir I hate the use of 'unlimited' the whole damn tech industry needs to pull out a dictionary
16:30 🔗 Leo_TCK really? youtube going down? i havent logged in to my channel for ages and cant fetch the videos now anyway because of all the javascript requirement and forgot password either way, but
16:30 🔗 ohhdemgir Leo_TCK, I was joking to start a discussion :3
16:31 🔗 Leo_TCK i had some rare stuff there, including some rare trailers etc, apart from random gaming stuff but..oh
16:31 🔗 Leo_TCK well i wouldnt be surprised if it happened
16:31 🔗 ohhdemgir what's your chan?
16:32 🔗 Leo_TCK LeoTCK
16:32 🔗 ohhdemgir 125 videos
16:36 🔗 yipdw "There's a lot of information swirling around about my butt. But you haven't the foggiest idea what it is."
16:36 🔗 Leo_TCK huh?
16:37 🔗 yipdw Carbonite marketing literature
16:41 🔗 ohhdemgir Leo_TCK, got 29 of your videos and then ran into "HTTP Error 503: Service Unavailable" tsk
16:44 🔗 Leo_TCK wtf
16:44 🔗 antomatic YouTube has been acting up for me the past few days - dunno what they're up to
16:44 🔗 ohhdemgir aye
16:44 🔗 joepie91 I... what...
16:45 🔗 joepie91 a DVD with 771MB of data?!
17:04 🔗 ohhdemgir Leo_TCK, got all your links, wrote a crude script to get your videos with mpsyt, youtube-dl isn't playing nice :/
17:06 🔗 DFJustin youtube-dl STILL has their head up their ass with 1080p/480p
17:06 🔗 ohhdemgir yup
17:07 🔗 ohhdemgir I'm still doing youtube-dl -f 137+140 url, then joining with ffmpeg
17:08 🔗 ohhdemgir my latest 1080p video download - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrbMeIGyGMk
17:08 🔗 ohhdemgir XD
17:08 🔗 DFJustin ah someone linked to this although I guess it doesn't do whole channels https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/complete-youtube-saver/
17:09 🔗 ohhdemgir and it's and browser extension, and for a browser i dont use, and it's gui (sorry :p)
17:09 🔗 ohhdemgir a*
17:10 🔗 ohhdemgir they come and go so fast these days, no one is really keeping up with the constant change at yt
17:10 🔗 DFJustin it'll be better than jdownloader 2 which is what I've been using
17:10 🔗 ohhdemgir try - https://github.com/np1/mps-youtube
17:10 🔗 antomatic I wonder if anyone has ever written a command-line tool to control a GUI program :)
17:11 🔗 DFJustin ooo
17:12 🔗 antomatic ooooh!
17:12 🔗 ohhdemgir ohhhhhh, yeah!
17:16 🔗 Leo_TCK oh
17:17 🔗 Leo_TCK ohhdemgir: sry if you had trouble doing that though but thanks
17:18 🔗 ohhdemgir Leo_TCK, no problem, just highlighted a problem I was going to run into soon anyway so I'm glad to of found a temp work around until ytdl fix the issue / yt stops being a boob, it was only last night I was mirroring other channels with no issues, and now it's broken again xD
17:19 🔗 Leo_TCK oh
17:19 🔗 Leo_TCK hmm
17:19 🔗 ohhdemgir and I'll likely keep you chan too :p
17:19 🔗 ohhdemgir your*
17:19 🔗 Leo_TCK kk
17:22 🔗 ohhdemgir my electric just went out.. (ups)
17:22 🔗 ohhdemgir hmm, no storms or anything, wtf :o
17:23 🔗 DFJustin hmm is there any way to make mpsyt automtically pick the best quality
17:23 🔗 ohhdemgir not really, it;s fairly new, active dev I'm sure it;ll be added sooner or later, put in a feature request
17:24 🔗 DFJustin oh also the muxer is retarded and is reencoding the video instead of copying
17:25 🔗 ohhdemgir yeah, I edited mine to copy
17:25 🔗 DFJustin why is this so hard to get righit
17:30 🔗 joepie91 <antomatic>I wonder if anyone has ever written a command-line tool to control a GUI program :)
17:30 🔗 joepie91 isn't that more or less what applescript is supposed to do?
17:35 🔗 exmic yup
17:35 🔗 antomatic Doesn't Applescript require the controlled program to actually be aware of, and support it, though?
17:35 🔗 antomatic (heard of it but never used it in anger)
17:36 🔗 antomatic I was thinking more of a CLI utility that could run and control anything - e.g. 'click this, wait for dialog box x, do y, grab value from text area z' and so on
17:36 🔗 antomatic can't be a new idea
17:49 🔗 exmic I think applescript lets you do that
18:18 🔗 antomatic ah
19:00 🔗 yipdw antomatic: there's several systems like that
19:01 🔗 yipdw but yes, they all require some level of support from the GUI
19:01 🔗 yipdw AppleScript control only works in OS X with Accessibility Extensions, for example
19:01 🔗 yipdw and they're very fragile if you're doing stuff like "click (x, y) relative to parent"
19:02 🔗 yipdw Selenium's kind of the same way, except for Web pages
19:03 🔗 joepie91 antomatic: hmm... pexpect?
19:04 🔗 joepie91 or well
19:04 🔗 joepie91 the graphical equivalent of that
19:05 🔗 joepie91 bah
19:05 🔗 joepie91 I know a graphical version of expect exists
19:05 🔗 joepie91 but I forgot what it's called
19:06 🔗 joepie91 not what I meant, but http://www.sikuli.org/
19:07 🔗 joepie91 also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_GUI_testing_tools
20:02 🔗 ohhdemgir Leo_TCK, re; videos I actually got "ERROR: YouTube said: This video is not available in your country." woa!!
20:02 🔗 ohhdemgir never seen it output that using ytdl/mpsyt before
20:16 🔗 ohhdemgir missed this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQIFt8ArfJg
21:24 🔗 BiggieJ time for a good vpn
23:28 🔗 ohhdemgir the internet is broken, I posted 4978 cat pictures and no one cares - http://redd.it/1z4ovf
23:32 🔗 DFJustin that's a lot of pussy
23:43 🔗 ivan` I think it has to do with the browser hanging

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