#archiveteam-bs 2014-05-27,Tue

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01:52 🔗 godane so looks like the begining of may 2014 is going to be light
01:52 🔗 godane may 5 to may 9 are not streaming anymore
01:53 🔗 godane a part of me wants to be a manager of there website people just to ask what the hell is going on with older videos
02:21 🔗 SketchCow Down to inbox 49
02:29 🔗 Ravenloft keep going
02:29 🔗 Ravenloft you can do it!
02:53 🔗 SketchCow Got to 35.
02:53 🔗 SketchCow 10 are definitely "to dos" that are handled, just items I have around for projects.
02:53 🔗 SketchCow (Like how to use VHX for the HD version of GET LAMP)
03:35 🔗 ex-parrot has anyone done a PC coverdisks collection indexed by what games they contain?
15:39 🔗 Smiley finally
15:40 🔗 Smiley series 1 of Adventure Time is up
15:40 🔗 Smiley may still be deriving tho :P
15:55 🔗 Aranje :>
18:29 🔗 DFJustin ohhdemgir: ftp.compaq.com has some crazy old stuff if you wanna do a grab
18:30 🔗 godane i'm starting to upload The Joy Cardin Show: https://archive.org/details/wpr-jca070101a
18:30 🔗 godane its about 16gb for just year 2007
19:58 🔗 deathy wow..archive.org has everything...including a Game of Thrones episode uploaded by someone...and popular on the bt tracker..
21:46 🔗 yipdw one interesting aspect of the gitchain code is that it appears to be implemented as git plumbing, which gives it good advantage over btsync etc in that you do not need to run external programs
21:47 🔗 yipdw the usual git push commands work precisely as they did before
21:47 🔗 yipdw that also eliminates Smiley's ease-of-use objection in that the UI is the same, though your git push/fetch reliability may be negatively affected
21:48 🔗 deathy I could see the use in case it's meant to be collaborated to by a lot of people. But the controversial criteria makes me think there will be 1 or 2 guys only contributing so it has no use..
21:48 🔗 yipdw interestingly one could make a similar objection for everything #archiveteam does
21:49 🔗 yipdw snarky answer aside
21:49 🔗 deathy I mean...it has a use.. but it's a lot more complicated
21:49 🔗 yipdw it isn't just meant for controversial stuff; that was just the first thing I thought of
21:49 🔗 yipdw it can be more complicated if the distribution leaks out into higher layers
21:49 🔗 yipdw I do not know of a reason why that absolutely must be the case
21:51 🔗 yipdw assuming a network of acceptable long-term stability, I think it'd be pretty neat to configure a git remote into that network and just push there
21:51 🔗 yipdw if that works, that can be the basis for other decentralized web services
21:51 🔗 yipdw Github Pages uses git as a storage mechanism, for example
21:52 🔗 yipdw also, git-annex might be interesting in that regard
21:52 🔗 yipdw what I'm getting at, or at least trying to get at, is that it has more interesting applications than "push code into bitcoin-like network"
21:54 🔗 deathy good points, interesting to see what comes of it
21:55 🔗 yipdw I suspect Github might actually be interested in it too, since they have had a hell of a time trying to get their backend to scale
21:55 🔗 deathy but isn't there a catch-22 in the sense that the DHT will only be good/powerful/reliable in case it's really used by a lot of people?
21:55 🔗 yipdw see e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK5yaWTt0R0
21:55 🔗 yipdw deathy: yes, and that's the same chicken-egg problem that e.g. all social networks face
21:55 🔗 yipdw you need some external, powerful force to get people on board
21:56 🔗 yipdw the difference here is that just because you have some entity throwing lots of resources to get the network robust, it doesn't mean that they necessarily retain long-term control over that network
21:58 🔗 yipdw that screencast on the kickstarter page is a bit unwieldy in that you need to issue a few commands to get going; hopefully some of money will go towards a better UI
21:58 🔗 yipdw er UX
21:58 🔗 deathy actually read "Crawling BitTorrent DHTs For Fun and Profit" recently, depends on the DHT. "Sybil attack" is interesting
22:02 🔗 deathy and for all of the "We have DHT, we don't need/host trackers anymore" movement in BT recently.. public bt works and works well mainly due to the appearance of opentracker-based public trackers
22:40 🔗 ohhdemgir DFJustin, ta, will get
23:15 🔗 godane here is what is uploaded so far for The Joy Cardin Show: https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22The%20Joy%20Cardin%20Show%22&sort=-date
23:15 🔗 godane i have only really done the first hour shows so far
23:15 🔗 godane there is like 3 mp3 per a day
23:16 🔗 godane sometimes 4
23:56 🔗 godane so i'm uploading like 3 thinks
23:56 🔗 godane *things
23:57 🔗 godane and downloading 2

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