#archiveteam-bs 2014-06-14,Sat

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00:56 🔗 Warchell Hello. I have issues with wpull: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/110292940/wpull.PNG
04:51 🔗 garyrh argh, this is the second time I've gotten this error: https://catalogd.archive.org/log/316265601
04:51 🔗 garyrh "Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class JsonPatchException in /usr/local/petabox/www/common/JsonPatchNew.inc on line 73"
05:15 🔗 godane so your going to get 3 versions of 2013-05-21 of cbs evening news it looks like
05:48 🔗 yipdw SketchCow: so I assume you're still alive and/or digesting
06:32 🔗 godane so 2013-05-21 of cbs evening news is going be a special case
07:15 🔗 godane i'm finding clips of that telethon right after 911
08:27 🔗 schbirid SketchCow: colo to yolo was great, thanks!
10:34 🔗 schbirid nice http://www.classicpornbox.com/members/xxxDeepInside/ ;) NSFW
11:19 🔗 godane i'm fixing some of the pearl jam bootlegs
11:20 🔗 godane there was some mp3s that didn't upload
11:52 🔗 joepie91 well damnit
11:52 🔗 joepie91 JPNIC has a WHOIS server that gives you NIC handles
11:52 🔗 joepie91 and then requires a separate query for the details for those handles
11:52 🔗 joepie91 ...
12:19 🔗 godane so looks like i got more of hardcoregaming101.net then archivebot got
12:20 🔗 godane i'm at 15gb where archivebot only got 10gb
12:32 🔗 godane i'm doing a barebone grab of mvgroup forums
12:33 🔗 godane mostly so it don't start grab showtopics out of range
12:51 🔗 godane so i got a review for one my glenn beck videos: https://archive.org/details/gbtv_20022837_1200K
14:07 🔗 godane i'm uploading tons of sydney morning herald
14:08 🔗 godane i'm close to getting 1872 fully upload
14:08 🔗 godane then i can start upload 1873
14:24 🔗 godane http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/06/13/2245248/appeals-court-finds-scanning-to-be-fair-use
14:43 🔗 godane SketchCow: so why is mtp_netcast collection stuff is gonig to mta_netcast: https://archive.org/details/mtp_netcast_110116
14:43 🔗 godane only has cause i have seen mtp_netcast in texts and you own it
14:43 🔗 godane *only ask
14:45 🔗 godane i hope you move everything to mtp_netcast collection item thats here: https://archive.org/details/mtp_netcast
19:06 🔗 godane fucking wifi
19:07 🔗 godane my hardcoregaming101.net is going to be incomplete
19:07 🔗 godane in less i plan on doing a redownload of it
19:18 🔗 godane so i'm uploading the incomplete grab
19:19 🔗 godane i may do a missing file grab later based on the files in wget.log
22:46 🔗 SMaKE Supp
22:46 🔗 SMaKE leget sneeseglarN ?
22:46 🔗 joepie91 I read that backwards and it still didn't make any sense
22:46 🔗 joepie91 lol
22:46 🔗 SMaKE hahah
22:47 🔗 SMaKE flip your screen upsidedown
22:47 🔗 joepie91 well you /did/ put the capital letter at the end :P
22:47 🔗 joepie91 lol
22:47 🔗 SMaKE or if youre on loosedows
22:47 🔗 joepie91 what do you take me for, an idiot? :P
22:47 🔗 SMaKE CTRL+ALT+DOWN_ARROW
22:47 🔗 SMaKE haha
23:00 🔗 odemg less talk of anuses
23:00 🔗 * joepie91 waves to SN4T14
23:01 🔗 odemg joepie91, I don't know, no idea what freedomporn is
23:01 🔗 joepie91 odemg: http://freedomporn.org/
23:01 🔗 odemg I'm not clicking, I'm mobile
23:01 🔗 joepie91 SN4T14: well there's not much discussion in here anyway :P
23:01 🔗 SN4T14 Well, at least we stopped the CP discussion before moving over here. :p
23:01 🔗 joepie91 so hardly makes a difference whether you get notifications for here or for #effteepee
23:01 🔗 joepie91 ...
23:01 🔗 joepie91 lol
23:01 🔗 joepie91 subtle hint is not so subtle
23:01 🔗 SN4T14 Not much discussion? in the 20 minutes I was in here there were like 100 lines of messages. >.>
23:02 🔗 joepie91 it happens in bursts :P
23:02 🔗 odemg FREEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMM
23:02 🔗 odemg (porn)
23:03 🔗 joepie91 ba dum tish? :P
23:03 🔗 SMaKE yeah
23:03 🔗 midas but when it bursts it's like a rollercoaster of crazy :p
23:04 🔗 joepie91 nah
23:05 🔗 SMaKE duudes
23:05 🔗 SMaKE stay here :P
23:07 🔗 joepie91 SN4T14: is doing other stuff, so the channel is dead now :(
23:08 🔗 SMaKE haha
23:16 🔗 SN4T14 Ohai
23:16 🔗 joepie91 lolhai
23:16 🔗 joepie91 the conversation died when you left :P
23:18 🔗 SN4T14 I know, I'm the life of the party. <3
23:18 🔗 joepie91 hehe
23:18 🔗 SN4T14 Or as I'd say in real life parties, *mumble*.
23:18 🔗 joepie91 lol
23:18 🔗 joepie91 butt, as I was about to say before the conversation devolved into "lol wikipedia to CP is 4 clicks"
23:18 🔗 joepie91 err, but*
23:19 🔗 joepie91 my situation with guys is more or less the absence of them >.>
23:19 🔗 joepie91 it's very frustrating
23:20 🔗 SN4T14 Online dating! :D
23:22 🔗 joepie91 SN4T14: um, that's kinda disappointing as far as I can tell
23:22 🔗 joepie91 at least here
23:22 🔗 joepie91 an added problem is that there are not terribly many people who would get along with me well IRL
23:26 🔗 SN4T14 Why do you say that?
23:28 🔗 joepie91 SN4T14: well, I'm an activist / archivist / developer that has a tendency to argue, is almost always busy, is frequently stressed, can get -very- insistent about ethics to the point of annoyance, and doesn't sugarcoat
23:28 🔗 joepie91 that's a lot of ways in which I can piss people off or annoy them
23:28 🔗 joepie91 :p
23:28 🔗 SN4T14 :D
23:28 🔗 SMaKE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKFz1xlPwWs
23:28 🔗 SN4T14 joepie91, I just got the best idea ever
23:28 🔗 joepie91 SN4T14: http://cryto.net/~joepie91/manual.html
23:29 🔗 joepie91 ?
23:29 🔗 SN4T14 Get a deaf SO! :D
23:29 🔗 joepie91 lol
23:29 🔗 joepie91 oh, did I mention polyamory, which makes it even more strange for a lot of people
23:30 🔗 joepie91 (realistically, deaf SO would just mean sign language, which I'm pretty sure is less information-dense than speech... >.>)
23:30 🔗 joepie91 (can you imagine me arguing in sign language,,,)
23:31 🔗 joepie91 ... *
23:31 🔗 SN4T14 joepie91, wouldn't you just admit defeat out of lazyness, though? :p
23:31 🔗 SN4T14 Just do the sign-y thing for "no" and then cover your eyes! :D
23:32 🔗 joepie91 admit defeat? you clearly don't know me very well :D
23:33 🔗 SN4T14 Admitting defeat out of laziness is different, though
23:33 🔗 SN4T14 Imagine having to argue through binary
23:33 🔗 joepie91 I'd probably still do it :P
23:33 🔗 SN4T14 You'd just give up, stand up, and go have a drink. :p
23:34 🔗 joepie91 heh
23:34 🔗 joepie91 nah
23:34 🔗 SN4T14 lol, you're insistent. :p
23:34 🔗 joepie91 yes :P
23:34 🔗 joepie91 (I also don't drink)
23:34 🔗 joepie91 (alcohol, that is)
23:34 🔗 joepie91 (it would be concerning if I didn't drink /at all/)
23:35 🔗 SN4T14 joepie91, I don't think I've told you this before, but your real life name is so fun to say. :D
23:36 🔗 joepie91 oh dear
23:36 🔗 joepie91 what pronunciation have you given it :P
23:37 🔗 SN4T14 Typical English one
23:37 🔗 SN4T14 with an oo sound in your last name, it makes it so fun to say. :D
23:37 🔗 joepie91 better than "sven slutwag" I suppose
23:37 🔗 joepie91 lol
23:37 🔗 SN4T14 lol
23:37 🔗 joepie91 (that's the shitty troll pronunciation)
23:38 🔗 joepie91 SN4T14: here's another funfact
23:38 🔗 joepie91 my name doesn't mean Joe Pie
23:38 🔗 SN4T14 shitty troll? Is that the kind of troll that plays with it's own poop? :D
23:38 🔗 joepie91 hehe
23:39 🔗 SN4T14 Now, what were you saying about your pies? :p
23:39 🔗 joepie91 lol
23:39 🔗 joepie91 "joepie" is Dutch for "yay"
23:39 🔗 joepie91 so my nick is actually "yay91"
23:42 🔗 SN4T14 Yay! :D
23:42 🔗 SN4T14 Haha, I just realized that you linked me to manual.html
23:42 🔗 SN4T14 You literally come with a manual
23:44 🔗 SN4T14 Speaking of, your "I manipulate." section says I should just ask, so... ?
23:44 🔗 SN4T14 :p
23:45 🔗 joepie91 yes, I do come with a manual :P
23:45 🔗 joepie91 also, as for manipulation, I'm actually fairly boring around here, since I don't discuss much
23:46 🔗 joepie91 but I did give you an example with the generic "partner" thing already :D
23:46 🔗 SN4T14 Woo
23:46 🔗 SN4T14 What exactly do you do, in real life, though? I'm kind of interested. :p
23:47 🔗 midas you dont discuss much joepie91?
23:47 🔗 joepie91 midas: not in here :P
23:47 🔗 * midas checks joepie91's sarcasm plugin
23:47 🔗 midas yeah, it's on.
23:47 🔗 joepie91 SN4T14: quit my job very recently
23:47 🔗 joepie91 (paid open-source job)
23:47 🔗 joepie91 now preparing a fundraiser to cover a year of living expenses
23:47 🔗 joepie91 so that I can go back to working on my own shit
23:47 🔗 joepie91 see http://cryto.net/~joepie91/projectlist
23:48 🔗 SN4T14 joepie91, referring to the manipulation. :p
23:48 🔗 joepie91 oh
23:48 🔗 joepie91 you mean manipulation in real life?
23:48 🔗 joepie91 no different from on the internet, really
23:48 🔗 SN4T14 Yeah
23:48 🔗 joepie91 :P
23:48 🔗 joepie91 just a different transport protocol
23:48 🔗 SN4T14 >.>
23:49 🔗 SN4T14 Stop being so cryptic and tell me what you do to manipulate people already. :p
23:49 🔗 joepie91 one thing I do with some frequency, is try to predict what people are thinking or are going to say
23:49 🔗 joepie91 and say it before them
23:49 🔗 joepie91 very good way to get people to listen to what you have to say afterwards, rather than rejecting it out of hand
23:49 🔗 SN4T14 ...That sounds ridiculously hard
23:49 🔗 joepie91 but I don't have particular habits, really - I adjust things depending on situation
23:49 🔗 joepie91 not really, once you're used to it
23:50 🔗 joepie91 most people are pretty predictable
23:50 🔗 joepie91 one of the advantages of intense/non-sugarcoated discussion is that people more easily "slip up" and tell you what they really think
23:50 🔗 joepie91 so that's a very good way to pick apart the way people reason
23:50 🔗 joepie91 and if you have a few models of reasoning that people commonly use, it's fairly simple to deduce what people are going to say as thing B
23:50 🔗 joepie91 when they've said thing A
23:51 🔗 SN4T14 Another question about manipulation
23:51 🔗 SN4T14 Do you think you're Pavlov Jr.? :p
23:51 🔗 joepie91 well, my name isn't pavlov.. :D
23:52 🔗 yipdw that rings a bell
23:52 🔗 joepie91 a wild yipyipyip appears!
23:52 🔗 yipdw only booted up the laptop for a few minutes, out again soon
23:53 🔗 joepie91 (also, your pun is bad and you should feel bad :P)
23:53 🔗 SN4T14 :D
23:53 🔗 SN4T14 For those who don't get it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning
23:53 🔗 yipdw ha, justin.tv
23:53 🔗 yipdw 117977 done + 1 out + 0 to do
23:53 🔗 yipdw fuuuuu
23:53 🔗 yipdw who is the weakest link
23:53 🔗 nico ?
23:53 🔗 joepie91 anyway, SN4T14, I guess the condensed answer is "I try to mirror peoples reasoning"
23:54 🔗 yipdw "jonasbrothers/b/259439379 "
23:54 🔗 joepie91 and respond accordingly
23:54 🔗 midas yipdw: got to be kidding me
23:54 🔗 joepie91 mirroring peoples reasoning means you can also make an educated guess at how they will respond to particular responses
23:54 🔗 yipdw I'm reassigning it
23:54 🔗 yipdw it's only 255 MB
23:54 🔗 midas silly jonasbrothers
23:56 🔗 SN4T14 joepie91, did you read a book/books on social engineering, or is this just something you've learned naturally over time?
23:56 🔗 joepie91 SN4T14: the latter
23:56 🔗 joepie91 years and years of analyzing, experimenting, etc.
23:57 🔗 SN4T14 Huh
23:57 🔗 joepie91 SN4T14: http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2014/04/07/depression/
23:57 🔗 joepie91 this post gives a bit more of my background
23:57 🔗 joepie91 and it also explains where I picked up interest for psychology :P
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