#archiveteam-bs 2014-06-21,Sat

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Time Nickname Message
00:22 🔗 godane this maybe fun
00:22 🔗 godane i got a 403 error for a file i was downloading
00:22 🔗 godane i retryed and it worked
00:23 🔗 godane :P
00:24 🔗 godane 2 403 for a file
02:01 🔗 instence Hey guys, for harddrives, how far do you go to ensure the drive is good before writing to it? Do you zero it out? single or multiple passes?
02:01 🔗 instence Currently I am buying 2TB drives, from Seagate and WD, and I mirror them. So the data is spread across different manufacturers.
02:01 🔗 instence I won't go 4TB due to high DOA rates.
02:02 🔗 instence You read reports about drives going bad after 6 months.
02:03 🔗 instence Currently I havn't been zeroing them out, and just copying files to them... but a failure could be looming off in the distance. Since I just write data to the drives and power them down (all in external enclosures and static Weibe-Tech cases).
02:03 🔗 instence I was thinking of going 3-tier redundancy, by adding Toshiba into the mix.
02:03 🔗 instence Just wanted to get some of your all thoughts on the topic.
02:33 🔗 Famicoman I personally don't do anything but load them out as needed. I think there's a software tool available for testing aspects of the drive.
02:33 🔗 Famicoman You may be interested in failure times, http://blog.backblaze.com/2014/01/21/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/
03:15 🔗 SketchCow Is this for some specific thing?
03:26 🔗 instence backups of archived data, video, websites, articles, scans, etc
03:29 🔗 instence 1 primary, and then 1 mirror, for each data-set, across drives from 2 different manufacturers is my current system
09:58 🔗 antomatic Assume -every drive you buy- will fail at some point, and structure your affairs to ensure this causes you no problem.
10:00 🔗 antomatic Anything that's important, anything you want to keep, ensure you always have more than one copy.
10:00 🔗 Smiley more than two
10:00 🔗 Smiley always
10:00 🔗 antomatic better still
10:00 🔗 Smiley sod ensures that if you only have two, the other has already died.
10:00 🔗 Smiley the moment you only have one working copy, is the moment it'll fail
10:00 🔗 schbirid 42
10:01 🔗 Smiley :SD
10:01 🔗 Smiley :D
10:01 🔗 antomatic Just finishing off a 3TB drive rescue at the moment, as it happens.
10:01 🔗 antomatic Foolishly, was the one drive I hadn't backed up.
10:01 🔗 antomatic Don't try this at home. I am a professional.
10:01 🔗 Smiley see?
10:02 🔗 Smiley We shall call this Smileys Law
10:02 🔗 Smiley the number of backups = the number of failures you'll have + 1
10:02 🔗 Smiley n(GOOD_BACKUP -1) = n(Failures)
10:03 🔗 antomatic I remember when I lost the hard drive on my first PC...
10:03 🔗 antomatic a whole 32mb of data, gone!
10:03 🔗 Smiley hehe
10:03 🔗 antomatic I send emails bigger than that, today.
10:03 🔗 SketchCow Same here, but 10
10:03 🔗 Smiley i remember when i accidently hit rm /music
10:04 🔗 Smiley I remember my first look at coruption, commador64 and a copy of booty on tape
10:04 🔗 Smiley stopped loading properly :(
10:05 🔗 schbirid antomatic: 32mb? that's like one whole letter in office 2014 ;)
10:06 🔗 antomatic (sobs) all those precious .txt files, painstakingly downloaded at 1200bps! (wah!)
10:06 🔗 antomatic Felt like a disaster at the time. Good lesson to learn, though.
10:08 🔗 antomatic Oh! And there was that 6tb Quantum Fireball that sort of stopped working when I moved 20 years ago
10:09 🔗 antomatic Possibly due to it being so large I couldn't properly mount it inside the desktop PC which I then boxed and rolled up the stairs while moving.
10:09 🔗 antomatic Can't imagine why that failed. (duh.)
10:10 🔗 antomatic wait.. 6tb? No way. 6gb.
10:12 🔗 antomatic Anyway, back up your data. Even if you're not stupid, drives still fail.
11:50 🔗 midas i prefer to stick to the 321 rule Smiley :p
11:51 🔗 midas 3 copies, 2 different formats and atleast 1 on a remote location
12:09 🔗 Atluxity remember to test restore
12:09 🔗 midas yep!
12:09 🔗 midas :p
13:10 🔗 SketchCow 3 levels of folders, 2 misleadings names, 1 incredible alibi as to why that ended up on your hard drive and it wasn't you
13:13 🔗 midas hahhaa
14:38 🔗 godane you guys will be getting world weather from cnn video grab
14:49 🔗 instence currently I multi-volume rar with recovery record, and sfv all data
14:49 🔗 instence and I batch check the sfv's with wxchksums
14:50 🔗 instence although just default recovery record size, which isn't all that just
14:50 🔗 instence all that much*
14:50 🔗 instence I was thinking of doing hardcopy bluray burns but man... already sitting on 1,000 cd's from my college days
14:51 🔗 instence kinda don't want to be back in that situation lol
14:57 🔗 godane so about 700gb of cds
15:15 🔗 midas upload all the CD's!
15:23 🔗 instence hmm I guess I dual-layer bluray option would be best for a 3rd tier
15:23 🔗 instence 8TB at 160 discs, costing around 450-500
15:23 🔗 godane some that i heard about on the buck sexton show: http://freebeacon.com/politics/audio-hillary-clinton-speaks-of-defense-of-child-rapist-in-newly-unearthed-tapes/
15:24 🔗 godane i grabbed the youtube video
16:46 🔗 Ravenloft [10:10] <@SketchCow> 3 levels of folders, 2 misleadings names, 1 incredible alibi as to why that ended up on your hard drive and it wasn't you
16:46 🔗 Ravenloft virus
16:46 🔗 Ravenloft blame it on virus
16:48 🔗 Ravenloft or viruses
18:50 🔗 SketchCow Good alibi
18:59 🔗 godane hey SketchCow
19:00 🔗 godane i need to find a way to grab all of cdx index of msnbc.com
19:00 🔗 godane using the cdx search that your have
19:01 🔗 godane i only ask cause i'm finding more videos i don't have
19:01 🔗 godane also i REALLY would like to grab everything in msnbc.com/modules/ folder
19:02 🔗 godane its only blocked by robots cause they redesign the web site with drupal
20:09 🔗 dashcloud so, apparently Nvidia doesn't like the Dolphin emulator: https://twitter.com/delroth_/status/480440884128149505 (they force all Optimus users to use the Intel card instead of the Nvidia card)
20:52 🔗 godane i hope 2k2 cnbc news clip
20:52 🔗 godane *i got a HOPE 2k2 cnbc news clip
20:53 🔗 godane there talked about the usnews.com website getting hacked on the eve of that event
21:49 🔗 godane anyways i'm finding more clips of nbc news from 2002

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