#archiveteam-bs 2014-09-02,Tue

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00:00 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Google is showing different versions of their pages to people depending on the age of their browsers. May have backfired; made me remember how much more I liked the older version of some of their services.
00:09 🔗 Lord_Nigh SketchCow: any luck contacting aza? I still want to get the old rchy/archy site back up hosted somewhere as well as getting the old svn up (which went down long before the original site did)
00:23 🔗 SketchCow No luck, gott him him yourself.
00:23 🔗 SketchCow archiveteam site is back
01:11 🔗 godane i'm looking at grabbing lockergnome older videos
01:11 🔗 godane aka Chirs Pirillo
06:55 🔗 godane i may have found a way to get walmart gamecenter magazine
06:55 🔗 godane https://www.screenpapermedia.com/premium/index.html?issue=ISSUE.12&magazine=00007
18:07 🔗 Dec-31-99 Is my login saved on Smuxi?
18:07 🔗 Dec-31-99 Because that's what I'm currently using.
18:13 🔗 yipdw to stay logged in with smuxi you need to run smuxi on a system that's always connected
18:13 🔗 yipdw smuxi has two parts: the client and the server (sometimes called "bouncer")
18:14 🔗 yipdw see https://smuxi.im/documentation/server/
18:14 🔗 Dec-31-99 On a system that's always connected? I turn off my laptop and close tabs if I'm done using them.
18:14 🔗 yipdw i don't recommend doing this if you haven't set up a server before, it's unfortunately still am ess
18:14 🔗 yipdw yeah, like on a VPS or other serverish thing
18:15 🔗 Dec-31-99 What is a VPS?
18:15 🔗 yipdw virtual private server
18:17 🔗 Dec-31-99 So do you log in to a site to always stay connected on IRC or something? The IRC log in thing is an issue...
18:19 🔗 RedType basically, you set up a shell account, for example on a vps
18:19 🔗 RedType then you use a client that's capable of running in the background, and you connect to it when you want to use irc
18:20 🔗 Dec-31-99 But you can't turn off the computer, right?
18:20 🔗 xmc you have to leave SOME computer on
18:20 🔗 xmc it doesn't have to be your laptop
18:20 🔗 xmc seem reasonable?
18:21 🔗 Dec-31-99 Well, I don't use a desktop computer. But it sounds reasonable. The easiest would be to log on with your username and prove the chat that it's you.
18:21 🔗 schbirid just read the logs if you want to know what happened here
18:22 🔗 xmc yes, the point of a vps is it's a computer that you control that isn't at your house
18:24 🔗 Dec-31-99 Then where is a VPS at?
18:25 🔗 xmc a datacenter
18:27 🔗 Dec-31-99 What would be recommended?
18:28 🔗 xmc I use linode, which is very common
18:30 🔗 yipdw I use prgmr, which is very cheap
18:31 🔗 RedType VPS stands for virtual private server, virtual meaning that you're not getting a "real" machine all to yourself, but sharing resources with other people. private meaning that for all intents and purposes that you have your own machine as far as the OS is concerned.
18:31 🔗 xmc linode is more full-service, prgmr is pretty minimal
18:31 🔗 Dec-31-99 Are these VPSes?
18:31 🔗 RedType VPS is a term used to describe virtualized servers
18:32 🔗 xmc they are companies that will rent you vpses
18:36 🔗 schbirid http://datafart.com/
18:36 🔗 schbirid why have i never heard of this
18:38 🔗 yipdw schbirid: no idea, but I like that it uses nvd3
18:38 🔗 yipdw that's really cool actually, I was getting tired of constructing the same basic chart types from basic elements
18:39 🔗 Dec-31-99 I'm confused. I don't know how to stay permanently logged in to the server.
18:41 🔗 xmc schbirid: relatedly some geography friends of mine came up with http://mapfart.com/
18:42 🔗 Dec-31-99 ?
18:42 🔗 Dec-31-99 So it seems that you pay, right
18:52 🔗 xmc yes, a vps costs money
18:53 🔗 Dec-31-99 I don't think IRC is friendly with logins. Is that true?
18:54 🔗 xmc what?
18:54 🔗 RedType IRC, the protocol, doesn't have a standard log in procedure
18:54 🔗 RedType well
18:54 🔗 RedType authentication
18:54 🔗 RedType user authentication, even
18:56 🔗 Dec-31-99 So everyone who logs in all the time has a VPS?
18:56 🔗 xmc or has some other computer that they leave on
18:56 🔗 xmc or has an account on someone else's computer
18:57 🔗 Rotab they have a client running, somewhere
18:57 🔗 xmc I got shellz for dayz, yo
18:59 🔗 Dec-31-99 Would it be okay to simply just log out, if necessary, and log back on later?
18:59 🔗 yipdw yeah, that happens all the time
19:00 🔗 yipdw I advise not thinking of IRC in terms of login/logout though
19:00 🔗 yipdw it has no real authentication procedure or even concept of it, though some networks add services on top that provide that concept
19:00 🔗 yipdw (EFnet doesn't)
19:00 🔗 yipdw with IRC you just connect, like fetching a web page
19:01 🔗 yipdw the main difference is that the communication is long-lived
19:10 🔗 schbirid xmc: :)
19:20 🔗 Dec-31-99 It would be a problem if someone impersonated you with your username on IRC channels.
19:21 🔗 xmc that doesn't happen much, and it's usually obvious when it's happening
19:23 🔗 Dec-31-99 So if it ever where to happen, you'd know that it's not really me?
19:23 🔗 xmc they'd probably act less confused ;)
19:24 🔗 Dec-31-99 Who is "they"?
19:25 🔗 xmc the hypothetical impostor
19:25 🔗 Dec-31-99 And what do you mean by "less confused"?
19:26 🔗 xmc ...
19:27 🔗 Dec-31-99 Right, right. I misinterpreted. Sorry.
20:19 🔗 Dec-31-99 What happens if I close my laptop while Smuxi is still active? Will my logins still be saved when I open it again?
23:06 🔗 Dec-31-99 Did you guys know that I focus on putting small sites in the ArchiveBot?
23:06 🔗 Dec-31-99 I'm just being considerate. :)

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