[00:00] Google is showing different versions of their pages to people depending on the age of their browsers. May have backfired; made me remember how much more I liked the older version of some of their services. [00:09] SketchCow: any luck contacting aza? I still want to get the old rchy/archy site back up hosted somewhere as well as getting the old svn up (which went down long before the original site did) [00:23] No luck, gott him him yourself. [00:23] archiveteam site is back [01:11] i'm looking at grabbing lockergnome older videos [01:11] aka Chirs Pirillo [06:55] i may have found a way to get walmart gamecenter magazine [06:55] https://www.screenpapermedia.com/premium/index.html?issue=ISSUE.12&magazine=00007 [18:07] Is my login saved on Smuxi? [18:07] Because that's what I'm currently using. [18:13] to stay logged in with smuxi you need to run smuxi on a system that's always connected [18:13] smuxi has two parts: the client and the server (sometimes called "bouncer") [18:14] see https://smuxi.im/documentation/server/ [18:14] On a system that's always connected? I turn off my laptop and close tabs if I'm done using them. [18:14] i don't recommend doing this if you haven't set up a server before, it's unfortunately still am ess [18:14] yeah, like on a VPS or other serverish thing [18:15] What is a VPS? [18:15] virtual private server [18:17] So do you log in to a site to always stay connected on IRC or something? The IRC log in thing is an issue... [18:19] basically, you set up a shell account, for example on a vps [18:19] then you use a client that's capable of running in the background, and you connect to it when you want to use irc [18:20] But you can't turn off the computer, right? [18:20] you have to leave SOME computer on [18:20] it doesn't have to be your laptop [18:20] seem reasonable? [18:21] Well, I don't use a desktop computer. But it sounds reasonable. The easiest would be to log on with your username and prove the chat that it's you. [18:21] just read the logs if you want to know what happened here [18:22] yes, the point of a vps is it's a computer that you control that isn't at your house [18:24] Then where is a VPS at? [18:25] a datacenter [18:27] What would be recommended? [18:28] I use linode, which is very common [18:30] I use prgmr, which is very cheap [18:31] VPS stands for virtual private server, virtual meaning that you're not getting a "real" machine all to yourself, but sharing resources with other people. private meaning that for all intents and purposes that you have your own machine as far as the OS is concerned. [18:31] linode is more full-service, prgmr is pretty minimal [18:31] Are these VPSes? [18:31] VPS is a term used to describe virtualized servers [18:32] they are companies that will rent you vpses [18:36] http://datafart.com/ [18:36] why have i never heard of this [18:38] schbirid: no idea, but I like that it uses nvd3 [18:38] that's really cool actually, I was getting tired of constructing the same basic chart types from basic elements [18:39] I'm confused. I don't know how to stay permanently logged in to the server. [18:41] schbirid: relatedly some geography friends of mine came up with http://mapfart.com/ [18:42] ? [18:42] So it seems that you pay, right [18:52] yes, a vps costs money [18:53] I don't think IRC is friendly with logins. Is that true? [18:54] what? [18:54] IRC, the protocol, doesn't have a standard log in procedure [18:54] well [18:54] authentication [18:54] user authentication, even [18:56] So everyone who logs in all the time has a VPS? [18:56] or has some other computer that they leave on [18:56] or has an account on someone else's computer [18:57] they have a client running, somewhere [18:57] I got shellz for dayz, yo [18:59] Would it be okay to simply just log out, if necessary, and log back on later? [18:59] yeah, that happens all the time [19:00] I advise not thinking of IRC in terms of login/logout though [19:00] it has no real authentication procedure or even concept of it, though some networks add services on top that provide that concept [19:00] (EFnet doesn't) [19:00] with IRC you just connect, like fetching a web page [19:01] the main difference is that the communication is long-lived [19:10] xmc: :) [19:20] It would be a problem if someone impersonated you with your username on IRC channels. [19:21] that doesn't happen much, and it's usually obvious when it's happening [19:23] So if it ever where to happen, you'd know that it's not really me? [19:23] they'd probably act less confused ;) [19:24] Who is "they"? [19:25] the hypothetical impostor [19:25] And what do you mean by "less confused"? [19:26] ... [19:27] Right, right. I misinterpreted. Sorry. [20:19] What happens if I close my laptop while Smuxi is still active? Will my logins still be saved when I open it again? [23:06] Did you guys know that I focus on putting small sites in the ArchiveBot? [23:06] I'm just being considerate. :)