#archiveteam-bs 2014-09-08,Mon

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00:05 🔗 godane good news
00:05 🔗 godane found subs: http://e.omroep.nl/tt888/VPWON_1209790
00:05 🔗 godane btw you can just put the basename of the video your to get the subs
00:06 🔗 godane same for json data: http://e.omroep.nl/metadata/aflevering/VPWON_1209790
00:18 🔗 godane here is a more direct link if anyone wants it: http://content10c4c.omroep.nl/urishieldv2/l27m223448a1472df34e00540cf47e000000.96ad237ea95be401ec9aeedbbf17fb1e/ceresodi/h264/1/vpro/rest/2014/VPWON_1209790/std.20140907.m4v
00:23 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I get some page in Dutch. Probably does referrer sniffing.
00:44 🔗 godane english episodes: https://www.youtube.com/user/VPROinternational
00:48 🔗 Rotab youtube-dl works with npo.
00:54 🔗 godane i was not sure if that would have work
02:15 🔗 Dec-31-99 Oh, man! I can't stand this site!: http://geekfeminism.org. It's trying to give you the message: girls > boys
02:16 🔗 Dec-31-99 It's making me think that I'll be one day negatively affected by this movement of equality.
02:18 🔗 Dec-31-99 How do I get over things like this? It's destroying me...
02:18 🔗 Dec-31-99 I shouldn't have looked at that site. <_< [this is all I have to say for this matter for now]
02:22 🔗 yipdw Dec-31-99: uh
02:22 🔗 yipdw that is not what it's saying
02:23 🔗 Dec-31-99 It isn't? The author seems pretty harsh toward men.
02:24 🔗 yipdw it's not one author
02:24 🔗 yipdw also
02:24 🔗 yipdw the best way to "get over" stuff like that might be to reframe your mental state -- except in a very small percentage of people, it's not about "girls > boys" but rather trying to push for a bit more awareness of entrenched privileges
02:25 🔗 yipdw it's like discussing POriginal Sin, if you believe in that
02:25 🔗 yipdw er Original Sin
02:25 🔗 yipdw it's not *your* fault
02:25 🔗 yipdw but humans are born with that taint on their soul, etc.
02:26 🔗 yipdw in a somewhat similar vein, if you're a cis dude, you really do have some advantages that you probably never asked for or may not even be cognizant about
02:26 🔗 Dec-31-99 Thanks for the advice.
02:26 🔗 yipdw doesn't mean you're a bad person
02:26 🔗 Dec-31-99 And information
02:26 🔗 Dec-31-99 What's CIS?
02:26 🔗 yipdw it's a prefix that means "on this side of"
02:26 🔗 yipdw I first encountered it in organic chemistry
02:26 🔗 yipdw but
02:27 🔗 aaaaaaaaa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender
02:27 🔗 yipdw yeah that
02:27 🔗 Dec-31-99 Hm, it's slipping past my mind already. Advice does help me, though.
02:28 🔗 yipdw it may help to look at http://geekfeminism.org/about/contributors/
02:28 🔗 Dec-31-99 I saw some male names on "Contact us".
02:29 🔗 yipdw yeah
02:29 🔗 yipdw one thing to keep in mind
02:29 🔗 yipdw just because the name looks male doesn't mean that the person identifies as that
02:30 🔗 yipdw this is in no way an odd phenomenon -- names like Alexis and Ashley are really gender-neutral even if a lot of the time they end up identified as "female"
02:30 🔗 yipdw but yeah
02:30 🔗 Dec-31-99 That is true.
02:31 🔗 Dec-31-99 What is the blog's main focus? Discussing issues on how women are treated in geek communities, online, etc.?
02:32 🔗 yipdw that's probably a fair assessment
02:32 🔗 yipdw I haven't read the whole thing
02:33 🔗 yipdw to reify "advantages", I mean stuff like you probably don't have to deal with being cat-called as you walk down the street
02:33 🔗 yipdw unless you're particularly attractive and you live in the Boystown neighborhood in Chicago but edge cases etc
02:34 🔗 yipdw friend of mine gets that a lot, and while she's become pretty callous towards it now it did bug her for a while
02:34 🔗 Dec-31-99 I do feel bad for taking things women do so personally. But then again, I easily take things personally.
02:34 🔗 Dec-31-99 And what does it mean to be "cat-called"?
02:35 🔗 yipdw it's when one person says something to someone else, usually in an attempt to hook up with them
02:35 🔗 yipdw typically it's man -> woman but it can go either way
02:36 🔗 aaaaaaaaa technically, cat call has a negative connotation
02:36 🔗 yipdw yeah, the etymology also suffers
02:37 🔗 Dec-31-99 I wonder if the internet history of today will thrive in 4014. Not much from A.D. 14 thrived to now.
02:38 🔗 Dec-31-99 [Library of Alexandria]
02:38 🔗 Dec-31-99 Our Library of Alexandria is the Internet Archive.
02:39 🔗 Dec-31-99 A lot of material on there is sacred and irreplacable.
02:41 🔗 Dec-31-99 How common is sexism? It seems to be extremely common.
02:42 🔗 yipdw I think so
02:43 🔗 Dec-31-99 It's been like that since the birth of people, I think.
02:45 🔗 Dec-31-99 I personally think it's more common than racism.
02:47 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I'd link to an IAT but that might mess with your head this late at night. (I also purposefully abbreviated it to make one harder to find, hopefully)
02:47 🔗 aaaaaaaaa But look it up during the daytime if you are curious.
02:48 🔗 Dec-31-99 aaaaaaaaa: K. Why are the sites I request the ArchiveBot to crawl different from what most put in it?
02:55 🔗 Dec-31-99 But either way, I thought the ArchiveBot could have help of cartoon-like material.
02:55 🔗 yipdw Dec-31-99: that's part of the point of archivebot
02:55 🔗 yipdw everyone adds something different
02:56 🔗 yipdw it's supposed to have breadth that e.g. the targeted crawls at IA can't match (their depth, automation, etc. is probably still better)
02:59 🔗 yipdw breadth and timeliness
02:59 🔗 yipdw for example, Ferguson, MO stuff was hitting archivebot about as soon as it made Twitter
03:00 🔗 yipdw it's not because archivebot is somehow better than IA, it's because there's a lot of people on the internet and some of them hang out in the archivebot IRC command channel
03:02 🔗 Dec-31-99 I recently started doing it the whole time.
03:13 🔗 yipdw man I wish I could play Fez on my laptop without it threatening to Chernobyl the thing
03:22 🔗 Dec-31-99 Does anyone know why it took the Internet Archive this long to implent a feature where users can archive URLs?
03:23 🔗 yipdw (a) it didn't, but (b) limited manpoewr
03:24 🔗 Dec-31-99 http://web.archive.org/web/19990508030009/http://personals.classifieds.yahoo.com/lasvegas/personals/ -- The weird part of the 20th Century web. [moved from ArchiveBot channel]
03:24 🔗 Dec-31-99 yipdw: I'm talking how October 23, 2013 is when they finally allowed users to save URLs.
03:24 🔗 Dec-31-99 *allowed anyone
03:25 🔗 yipdw probably limited manpower
03:27 🔗 Dec-31-99 Yahoo had a dating site.
03:29 🔗 Dec-31-99 I'm looking at the Women + Women webpages on the Internet Archive. Stuff gets crazy on it...
03:30 🔗 Dec-31-99 Some admit to being married is the worst part. I don't even want to link, as I could get in trouble.
03:31 🔗 Dec-31-99 I'm used to these every day "no adult content" rules on these forums/wikis/chatrooms/you name it.
03:31 🔗 Dec-31-99 But it doesn't seem to be the case here.
03:32 🔗 yipdw "Woman seeks Woman: MARRIED WOMAN SEEKS FRIENDS"
03:32 🔗 yipdw how is that a problem
03:32 🔗 yipdw also you think this is raunchy, check out craigslist personals heh
03:33 🔗 Dec-31-99 "Woman seeks Woman: ISO Friendship First" - Get ready for some CD/DVD piracy.
03:34 🔗 yipdw iso is "in search of"
03:35 🔗 Dec-31-99 I knew it wasn't the computer format, but I didn't know it was an acronym for "in search of".
03:38 🔗 Dec-31-99 I wonder where all a site's hidden cache (e.g. Yahoo) is located at.
07:21 🔗 godane first 1001 images from npo.nl: https://archive.org/details/images.poms.omroep.nl-500000-to-501000
16:10 🔗 insane_al what is it about mondays that make work suck so much
16:10 🔗 insane_al Tue-Fri: barrel of laughs
16:10 🔗 insane_al Mon: like manning a suicide hotlie
16:10 🔗 insane_al hotline^
16:47 🔗 godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/images.poms.omroep.nl-501001-to-502000
17:18 🔗 SketchCow 23:23 < Dec-31-99> Does anyone know why it took the Internet Archive this long to implent a feature where users can archive URLs?
17:18 🔗 SketchCow I'm the only one in here who can tell you
17:18 🔗 SketchCow And I'm not going to tell you
17:20 🔗 xmc the correct answer is "yes, somebody in here knows"
17:21 🔗 SketchCow Agreed
17:21 🔗 SketchCow Sorry, in Internet Archive meeting
17:21 🔗 SketchCow Ah, it's -bs, where the magic happens.
17:25 🔗 swebb so it's like a url-shortener or just a place to dump a bunch of urls?
17:28 🔗 xmc I think he's talkign about triggered crawling
17:33 🔗 swebb Ahh
17:34 🔗 swebb so like our arkiver?
17:35 🔗 * xmc shrugs
17:36 🔗 joepie91 lol
18:02 🔗 DFJustin for the .nl crew: http://www.beeldengeluid.nl/node/9949
18:15 🔗 Laverne nice, thanks for the heads-up DFJustin, I nearly forgot about the event
18:49 🔗 joepie91 I just discovered this
18:49 🔗 joepie91 http://mystonline.com/en/

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