#archiveteam-bs 2014-09-09,Tue

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00:33 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 How did the Warrior get updated without me resetting it? And I got an email notification on the "about" page.
00:35 πŸ”— yipdw https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/seesaw-kit/blob/master/seesaw/warrior.py#L681
00:35 πŸ”— yipdw warrior is an auto-updating appliance
00:36 πŸ”— yipdw in that sense it's a lot like a lot of botnets
00:36 πŸ”— yipdw except we have a much bigger payload
00:38 πŸ”— BlueMaxim and you install it willingly unlike 99% of botnets :P
00:39 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Wait, but what was the email icon about?
00:39 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 It led me to the "about" page.
00:40 πŸ”— yipdw broadcast message
00:41 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 What's been changed in the new Warrior?
01:13 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Hearing mid-2000s music makes me feel inner nostalgia...
01:13 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 1980s/1990s music included... );
01:59 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 I have a weird question: What are the most common file names or directory names of a site?
02:00 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 I know that robots.txt and sitemap.xml are one of them, but...
02:01 πŸ”— Rotab index?
02:01 πŸ”— Rotab static?
02:01 πŸ”— Rotab favicon?
02:02 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 I hope this isn't bad, but I'm trying to search for hidden internet files in protected directories through lucky guesses or something.
02:02 πŸ”— Rotab good luck
02:03 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Well it takes knowledge, but sorry. Maybe I shouldn't. :/
02:03 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Free.fr and 000webhosting sites have unprotected directories. I know that.
02:06 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Rotab: No, really. I feel bad.
02:07 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa Easy solution, don't do it.
02:08 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Why not?
02:09 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Sometimes you get the curiosity of what's behind those protected directories, but anyway.
02:10 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Legal issues?
02:11 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Password crackers are illegal, but what's wrong with guessing certain directories?
02:14 πŸ”— SketchCow How.... old are you?
02:14 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa If you feel bad about doing something, then either don't do it or don't complain when you choose to do it anyway.
02:14 πŸ”— yipdw why are you second-guessing yourself
02:14 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 SketchCow: 16 years, why?
02:14 πŸ”— SketchCow It helps explain a lot.
02:14 πŸ”— SketchCow Gives me perspective.
02:14 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Don't you work for the IA?
02:15 πŸ”— SketchCow I work for the Internet Archive. Yes.
02:15 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Do you know why they have a robots.txt policy? My guess is to prevent hate mail and/or legal issues.
02:15 πŸ”— SketchCow I know why.
02:16 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 https://archive.org/post/406632/why-does-the-wayback-machine-pay-attention-to-robotstxt -- There are a lot of people who seem to dislike it, but it seems like it has to stay.
02:16 πŸ”— SketchCow I don't read the forums.
02:17 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Sometimes some domain hoarders unfairly take defunct sites and place robots.txt file in it.
02:17 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 It's happened to nintendoweb.com
02:18 πŸ”— SketchCow Yes.
02:18 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 It's robots.txt file redirects to this one.: http://spi.domainsponsor.com/ds_robots.txt
02:18 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 And WoT says that the site's received bad ratings.
02:19 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 *Web of Trust
02:20 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 I'm over the directory stuff, by the way. I just was wondering about the robots.txt policy on the Internet Archive.
02:20 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa speaking of which I love the robots.txt entry on the wiki,
02:22 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 SketchCow: I figured that you founded the Archive Team after reading that your username is Jscott on the ArchiveBot article, which then made me think of Jason Scott. I know that you were pretty furious about the AOL Hometown collapse.
02:22 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 aaaaaaaaa: Why is that? :P
02:26 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa It's short, to the point and hard to disagree with when you are done reading it.
02:27 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 It says "Not Found": http://archiveteam.org/robots.txt
02:27 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 *It gives me a 404 Not Found response
02:29 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 SketchCow is pretty mysterious...
02:30 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Pops in every once in a while, gives some words, and then leaves again.
02:30 πŸ”— Rotab thats not what wiki entries urls looks lkke
02:30 πŸ”— Rotab http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Robots.txt
02:31 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa Dec-31-99: he is also super busy.
02:31 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 aaaaaaaaa: No doubt.
02:33 πŸ”— SketchCow Sketchcow is not fond of you.
02:33 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm waiting to see if you're useful or just a time vacuum.
02:33 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm on the fence.
02:33 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 I don't get why you dislike me. :/
02:34 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 I didn't try to get you to dislike me, but okay...?
02:35 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 But you are aware that I'm an archivist, like all of you? I actually have a ton of stuff on my computer. I crawl sites with wget and HTTrack too.
02:35 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 I even notified the ArchiveTeam about the shut down of Swipnet and everyone worked in August, among other things, to save the Swedish web host.
02:37 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 I also am making an effort using the ArchiveBot in an appropriate way. Some of my sites I injected were put in go packs. This is all I have to say for the moment to you. :)
02:38 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 If one considers everything I said bullshit, then this is the archiveteam-bs channel. :P
02:39 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 *may I remind you guys that this is the archiveteam-bs channel. :P
02:40 πŸ”— boozehoun does anyone have this torrent ? http://bt.rjek.com/bbc.closing.sites.archive.torrent
02:40 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 I'm sure someone does, but it isn't me. Sorry.
02:40 πŸ”— boozehoun k
02:41 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 There is probably a backup on archive.org.
02:41 πŸ”— yipdw boozehoun: one of the copies in http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://bt.rjek.com/bbc.closing.sites.archive.torrent might be useful, though the peer list is going to be two years old at this point
02:44 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa Dec-31-99: he is, at a minimum, implying that you are high maintenance and that the maintenance required may not balance out the benefit you bring.
02:45 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 High maintenance? Of my ArchiveBot jobs?
02:47 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 I'm a little confused here.
02:48 πŸ”— yipdw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RcBdNZKYn4 will clarify it
02:48 πŸ”— SketchCow Here is what happens.
02:49 πŸ”— SketchCow I come into a channel.
02:49 πŸ”— SketchCow I go "ah, here are the archive team members working on stuff, with focus and effort"
02:49 πŸ”— SketchCow "Ah, here is Dec-31-99 filling every channel with random stupid questions"
02:49 πŸ”— ivan` haha
02:49 πŸ”— SketchCow Since work is getting done, I poke you in the eye, and go back to my many other concerns.
02:50 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa lol
02:51 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Like this question I'm asking now? (irony fail)
02:51 πŸ”— xmc Dec-31-99 is still getting on my nerves
02:51 πŸ”— xmc (status update)
02:52 πŸ”— SketchCow The first thing we have to do is beat out his sense of entitlement and justice
02:52 πŸ”— SketchCow Next, we build him up, as a warrior
02:52 πŸ”— xmc too bad it's more work than starting an ova
02:52 πŸ”— SketchCow Next, we beat him down again, because he'll probably be a warrior who asks a lot of questions
02:52 πŸ”— yipdw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SLJJc8siyU
02:52 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm estimating between 20-30 beatdowns
02:52 πŸ”— xmc hah
02:52 πŸ”— xmc that sounds like a time vacuum
02:52 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 I kinda think that's a little funny, to be honest.
02:53 πŸ”— SketchCow That is.
02:53 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 SketchCow: So you're trying to tell me: "Grow up." (oops. another question)
02:54 πŸ”— xmc "grow up" isn't as important is "say less needless stuff"
02:54 πŸ”— SketchCow https://imgflip.com/i/bxr6y
02:55 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 xmc: Like "none of your business" stuff, I guess.
02:55 πŸ”— xmc 90% of what you say is needless
02:55 πŸ”— SketchCow That's not fair
02:55 πŸ”— SketchCow It's 95%
02:55 πŸ”— SketchCow It may be 96%
02:55 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 It may be 99.9%
02:56 πŸ”— SketchCow One channel down.
02:56 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 What are some of the needless stuff I say?
02:56 πŸ”— xmc it's easier to catalog the not-needless stuff you say
02:57 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Isn't this channel's intension for nonsense and off-topic discussion? I'm sure I read it on the ArchiveTeam Wiki.
02:57 πŸ”— xmc no
02:57 πŸ”— yipdw image soundtrack http://youtu.be/z6oYKsN7_bc?t=2m40s
02:57 πŸ”— xmc this channel is for not-project-related conversation that isn't completely offtopic
02:58 πŸ”— xmc for example, figuring out when we should have tracker downtime
02:58 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa There is off topic and then there is Good lord how is that possibly related to anything?
02:58 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 *headache GIF*
02:58 πŸ”— xmc also much of what you demand responses to is questions that have been debated ad nauseam already
02:59 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 What can I do to improve, then?
02:59 πŸ”— xmc speak 90%+ less
02:59 πŸ”— xmc lurk silently for a week
03:00 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Banned on archivebot channel. Dammit.
03:01 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 What the hell? Why was I banned from archivebot channel. I didn't do anything wrong on it.
03:02 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 *Is reminded of this movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0763831/*
03:02 πŸ”— xmc have you ever played the card game mao?
03:03 πŸ”— xmc this is not that
03:03 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 xmc: I don't get it. What community would ban me from a chat for talking too much?
03:04 πŸ”— xmc just about any community
03:04 πŸ”— xmc honestly
03:04 πŸ”— yipdw Dec-31-99: I think one thing that you might not be getting -- and admittedly a ban is not the best way to communicate this -- is that IRC, despite being broadcast messages, is really usually one-to-few
03:04 πŸ”— SketchCow I speak ban fluently.
03:04 πŸ”— yipdw poking around in a conversation is fine to get the gist but after a while it just becomes grating
03:04 πŸ”— xmc you have been overpowering several channels worth of chat
03:05 πŸ”— xmc continuously during waking hours
03:05 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa xmc: that brings back memories of Calvinball
03:05 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 What's the purpose of IRC?
03:06 πŸ”— xmc to have conversations
03:06 πŸ”— xmc not to answer questions for your irritating ass
03:06 πŸ”— dashcloud what are you looking to get out of this channel, and archiving in general? once you know the answer to those questions, you'll be able to figure how to achieve what you want
03:06 πŸ”— yipdw like, in #archivebot in particular, in that channel the expectation is that you're there to issue commands, check up on a job, or talk about something to work on; talking about how archivebot works is fine but there's a point where it just gets annoying to deal with
03:06 πŸ”— yipdw it's not a hard line
03:06 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 The more answers I receive, the less questions I ask. *irrefutable*
03:06 πŸ”— xmc empirically, not true
03:07 πŸ”— SketchCow Anyway, enough talking to the retard.
03:07 πŸ”— Dec-31-99 Hm?
03:07 πŸ”— SketchCow I'd like to know if there's anything that needs my attention. I'm around a lot the next three days, and can spare time.
03:07 πŸ”— SketchCow JESUS
03:07 πŸ”— SketchCow Anyway.
03:07 πŸ”— SketchCow I'd like to know if there's anything that needs my attention. I'm around a lot the next three days, and can spare time.
03:07 πŸ”— xmc noted.
03:07 πŸ”— yipdw nothing here so far
03:07 πŸ”— xmc I'll be afk for work.
03:07 πŸ”— SketchCow I know Twitpic needs some noise, we may be fucked, but we can try.
03:13 πŸ”— SketchCow NOT how it works.
03:14 πŸ”— SketchCow Underscor was 16 when he joined.
03:14 πŸ”— SketchCow He got it.
03:14 πŸ”— xmc fair enough
03:14 πŸ”— xmc matter of degree
03:14 πŸ”— SketchCow BlueMax was a twit but he mostly just hit on me.
03:14 πŸ”— xmc heh
03:14 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.beeldengeluid.nl/node/9949 is pretty amazing, by the way.
03:15 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa Since they said they would end on the 25th, maybe you could suggest we archive between then and the end of the month, assuming that is when there service contract ends.
03:15 πŸ”— SketchCow No, twitpic is a major, major problem.
03:18 πŸ”— yipdw ooh
03:18 πŸ”— yipdw http://axentwear.tumblr.com/post/96899869547/hi-everyone-thank-you-for-your-patience-were
03:18 πŸ”— SketchCow Meanwhile, a window on FOS is adding keywords to hundreds of uploaded bitsavers documents.
03:19 πŸ”— SketchCow I would literally want to sterilize someone wearing those.
03:21 πŸ”— yipdw SketchCow: guess I'll have to meet you somewhere at some point :P
03:21 πŸ”— SketchCow We'll have an anime battle
03:21 πŸ”— SketchCow Where are you located out of.
03:22 πŸ”— yipdw well, according to Wikipedia, you are Goku
03:22 πŸ”— yipdw Chicago
03:22 πŸ”— SketchCow Also, I would just clearly say "I think you should be sterilized"
03:22 πŸ”— SketchCow Not, you know, do it
03:22 πŸ”— * SketchCow puts away icepick
03:23 πŸ”— xmc I have to do laundry and pack for traveling and eat pizza and that kind of shit, I can't wield the banhammer too reliably
03:24 πŸ”— SketchCow Anyway, seriously, there's nothing else needing my attention at archiveteam other than Twitpic?
03:25 πŸ”— SketchCow I know, for example, "get everything off FOS and into the archive" is an ongoing project.
03:25 πŸ”— SketchCow The addition of SIS/SISYPHUS will make things better.
03:27 πŸ”— yipdw SketchCow: oh, I guess we could use an IA Verizon collection
03:28 πŸ”— SketchCow Created archiveteam_verizon
03:31 πŸ”— SketchCow Who gets admin rights
03:33 πŸ”— yipdw SketchCow: looks like you and midas; not sure what his IA username is
03:40 πŸ”— SketchCow I gave midas the admin access
03:40 πŸ”— SketchCow so pass that to him.
03:41 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: i'm working on that aol file protocal download
03:41 πŸ”— godane we can get the aol://4400:$i
03:41 πŸ”— xmc neat
03:42 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: also i maybe able to get to scan on linux using this vm
03:42 πŸ”— godane looks like i can past the usb device to qemu
03:43 πŸ”— godane and since its windows xp i should work
03:45 πŸ”— godane i'm finding things going back to at least 1990
03:45 πŸ”— godane maybe even 1989
06:09 πŸ”— Rotab hahahah, he joined the main channel with another nick (from the same ip), and started flooding? subtle.
06:11 πŸ”— Kazzy had some sort of mental breakdown over there
06:20 πŸ”— joepie91 pretty shitty flood imo
06:20 πŸ”— joepie91 like, somewhere down at the bottom of the "how impressive is this flood" scale
06:20 πŸ”— joepie91 not even arrow-up-enter
06:21 πŸ”— Kazzy i like how he just spammed fuck a bit.
06:21 πŸ”— Kazzy it's like he just had a really sheltered life and was letting everything out in one go
06:34 πŸ”— Rotab joepie91: and he got autokilled by the server.. embarrasing
06:45 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
06:52 πŸ”— arkhive just finished watching Generation Kill for a second time. love it. goofy marines. Captain America, Trombley, Fruity Rudy, Ray Person, Brad
07:17 πŸ”— midas got it SketchCow
07:21 πŸ”— SketchCow Great.
07:22 πŸ”— SketchCow I'll make it another setup.
07:22 πŸ”— SketchCow But go ahead and upload.
08:16 πŸ”— midas are we going to megawarc this or dump as is?
09:38 πŸ”— midas sad moment, was checking a page and got a 404 from a page we archived. good thing tho, now i can find it on the archive \o/
10:10 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: "okay, let's see if this archived correctl- ... ok, better hope it has."
11:52 πŸ”— Ymgve I don't suppose anyone has seen a http://www.retrocollect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=4880 lately?
12:40 πŸ”— joepie91 Ymgve:
12:40 πŸ”— joepie91 boop
12:40 πŸ”— Ymgve yeah, better to do it in -bs
12:41 πŸ”— joepie91 for continuity
12:41 πŸ”— joepie91 [14:40] <joepie91> Ymgve: I'm guessing that there's a good amount of mysogyny from one side and a good amount of 'radical feminism' bullshit from the other side involved?
12:41 πŸ”— Ymgve http://www.dailydot.com/geek/zoe-quinn-depression-quest-gaming-sex-scandal/
12:42 πŸ”— * joepie91 sighs again
12:42 πŸ”— Ymgve https://archive.today/Ler4O is the log SadDM talked about I assume - log from the channel where some of the anti-Zoe people organized
12:42 πŸ”— joepie91 looks like this is one of those things that I'm going to blank from my mind and forget ever occuirred
12:43 πŸ”— joepie91 occurred *
12:44 πŸ”— norbert79 people have too much free time
12:44 πŸ”— norbert79 Could someone please tell these idiots to start playing Sims2,3,4? I mean it's like those old grannies
12:46 πŸ”— joepie91 norbert79: I don't, hence my ignoring of anything that involves mysogynists(?) vs radical feminists
12:46 πŸ”— joepie91 at that stage the discussion is already lost
12:46 πŸ”— joepie91 and it just becomes a massive unconstructive timesink and/or shouting match
12:46 πŸ”— joepie91 with so much bullshit that it's impossible to figure out what *actually* happened
12:48 πŸ”— norbert79 Seriously, does it really mattter? :) I mean don't people have better things to do, than arguing about other peoples love-life?
12:49 πŸ”— norbert79 *matter
12:50 πŸ”— joepie91 apparently not
12:52 πŸ”— schbirid here too. let's please not get involved in this
12:52 πŸ”— norbert79 No interest doing so really :)
12:53 πŸ”— norbert79 There are enough soap operas on television already
15:18 πŸ”— ersi http://i.imgur.com/Zz0fwjz.jpg
16:42 πŸ”— Kazzy http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/14pijnadfpvkjnfvpijhabdfvpijbadfv09/live/8500/8500.m3u8?x-session-format=live
16:42 πŸ”— Kazzy if you're interested in apple stream ^
16:48 πŸ”— chazchaz Is there an easy way to specifiy that a certain process should get killed first if there isn't enough ram/swap?
17:03 πŸ”— joepie91 .tw https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/509373373034401792
17:03 πŸ”— botpie91 ItҀ™s time to playҀ¦Apple Keynote Bingo! http://nym.ag/1BpL3ZK pic.twitter.com/PhESOhZaAq (@kevinroose)
17:13 πŸ”— godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/www.theguardian.com-2002-04-sitemap-urls-20140613
18:05 πŸ”— joepie91 well then
18:05 πŸ”— joepie91 I just got a 20BTC contribution to my indiegogo campaign
18:05 πŸ”— APerti Nice!
18:05 πŸ”— APerti What are BTCs trading at these days?
18:06 πŸ”— vantec damn son, gratz joepie91
18:07 πŸ”— joepie91 APerti: not sure of exact rate, but at this point 20BTC translates into nearly 9.5k $
18:07 πŸ”— joepie91 vantec: thank you :D quite happy about it
18:07 πŸ”— joepie91 that basically wipes out half my campaign goal
18:07 πŸ”— vantec APerti: $464.66 to $472.15 (so $9293.20 to $9443)
18:07 πŸ”— APerti Congrats!
18:08 πŸ”— joepie91 I've sent the guy an email to ask whether I should treat it as public or anonymous
18:08 πŸ”— joepie91 if public, he's definitely getting a tweet at the very least :P
18:09 πŸ”— godane joepie91: don't trade all of them in
18:09 πŸ”— godane never know they may go up
18:12 πŸ”— joepie91 godane: I trust BTC more than my bank or paypal, I wasn't intending on exchanging more than necessary :)
18:12 πŸ”— joepie91 (I actually pay a bunch of things in BTC, even)
18:12 πŸ”— joepie91 (hosting stuff, primarily)
18:12 πŸ”— godane ok
18:16 πŸ”— SketchCow OH BOY LET US DISCUSS HANDLES
18:16 πŸ”— phuzion AW YEAH
18:16 πŸ”— SketchCow phuzion: Also, I have 20 handles
18:16 πŸ”— SketchCow You only know some of them.
18:16 πŸ”— phuzion I figured as much. I've got a portfolio of them as well :)
18:17 πŸ”— phuzion Anyways, speaking of Schuyler, I'm gonna finally get to see him tonight. He's doing a presentation for CleveSec
18:19 πŸ”— SketchCow Tell him I said hi and I am always watching
18:19 πŸ”— SketchCow Kickstarter work delayed for his wedding
18:45 πŸ”— godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/www.theguardian.com-2002-05-sitemap-urls-20140909
19:03 πŸ”— phuzion SketchCow: I'll tell him you said hi.
19:27 πŸ”— godane i'm going after freakonomics podcast
21:32 πŸ”— ersi joepie91: Nice! Congrats!
21:41 πŸ”— SketchCow SAVED
21:41 πŸ”— SketchCow https://archive.org/details/a8b_Sexy_Pictures_1_1986_Gandalf
21:50 πŸ”— DFJustin disappointed sexy pictures are not of gandalf
21:54 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: nice to see that the emulated stuff is getting its own collection
23:27 πŸ”— xmc DFJustin++
23:48 πŸ”— Jonimus SketchCow: that emulation ran beautifully on my cell phone. perhaps a bit slow but it worked.
23:50 πŸ”— Jonimus Girefox for android on a Galaxy S5
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