#archiveteam-bs 2014-09-11,Thu

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Time	Nickname	Message
00:01 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	RedType: if you hear the call, you will know what to do.
00:01 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	that is how destiny works
00:18 ^🔗	joepie91	so, we have a case of the angry kid syndrome?
00:19 ^🔗	joepie91	fun..
00:34 ^🔗	dx	i wish i had known about you guys earlier. like, a year or two earlier.
00:35 ^🔗	dx	i've done two or three quite lame attempts to rescue a few websites, failed horribly since i didn't really have a proper toolchain and a place to store it all
00:37 ^🔗	dx	well, the last one wasn't even that. i got the news that a forum was going to go down forever when the admin had already removed all the forum related php scripts :(
00:40 ^🔗	dx	spent a whole night trying to discover interesting files remaining in the server and maybe, hopefully, some vulnerabilities in their very outdated LAMP setup to get a shell and hopefully dump the database which seemed to be there still, but got nothing.
00:46 ^🔗	dx	...oh hey archive.org has 16320 URLs achived from that forum. that's much better than i thought. the posts i needed are kinda outdated but still much better than nothing
01:21 ^🔗	joepie91	dx: what forum?
01:25 ^🔗	dx	oh, i didn't say it.
01:25 ^🔗	dx	joepie91: http://web.archive.org/web/20100926064004/http://www.tdt-latinoamerica.tv/foro
01:26 ^🔗	dx	there were a few threads about modding TV set top boxes to run linux in them
01:26 ^🔗	dx	well, rather, they already had linux. modding the linux to run interesting stuff in it
01:30 ^🔗	joepie91	aha
01:30 ^🔗	joepie91	haven't heard of it
01:30 ^🔗	joepie91	but yeah, archiveteam is awesome :D
02:21 ^🔗	joepie91	SketchCow: that was an excellent docu.
02:24 ^🔗	joepie91	SketchCow: also, you're the thumbnail on the site: http://tegenlicht.vpro.nl/afleveringen/2014-2015/digitaal-geheugenverlies.html
02:25 ^🔗	joepie91	(and the play button is, apparently, broken)
03:57 ^🔗	godane	SketchCow: i'm starting to do the bootlegs archiving
03:57 ^🔗	godane	its going to be uploaded to your ftp
03:58 ^🔗	godane	mostly cause some of these have more then one recording of the same show
04:38 ^🔗	arkhive	G96WA-EZKVX-VN4VW I think this is still a valid key i have for Super Lemonade Factory I got from Bundle Stars leftover. have fun to whoever takes it first
04:38 ^🔗	arkhive	L34C0-4BYRG-LYJJQ Guacamelee! Gold Edition left over extra from Bundle Stars
04:38 ^🔗	arkhive	let me know when taken
04:38 ^🔗	arkhive	(Steam, obviously)
04:39 ^🔗	arkhive	7th Guest and 11th Hour Steam key leftover extra from Bundle STars. Enjoy 20DVN-YL5W7-4JGY4
04:40 ^🔗	arkhive	Hydrophobia Prophecy left over Steam key from Bundle Stars CNXP3-Y5QPA-0R2ZL
04:40 ^🔗	arkhive	Legendary left over Steam key from Bundle Stars QIF90-LJT54-YE036
04:41 ^🔗	arkhive	Rune Spell: Overture left over Steam key from Bundle Stars D00ZG-8NMF0-52NBP
04:41 ^🔗	arkhive	That is all for now. Have fun people. :P
04:41 ^🔗	arkhive	btw they are legit keys non stolen. i got them from purchasing tons of bundles and finally i started getting dupes
05:08 ^🔗	DFJustin	grabbed 7th guest / 11th hour, thanks
05:13 ^🔗	arkhive	np man
05:16 ^🔗	arkhive	i have about 60 more. some are big budget games some aren't
05:16 ^🔗	arkhive	most aren't*
05:56 ^🔗	arkhive	Parkan 2 left over Steam key from Bundle Stars RVP2C-MCIL0-5WIGT
06:35 ^🔗	dx	balrog: took me a bit too much to get this done, but here https://gist.github.com/dequis/d24ce9d9915401f13dd1 / http://dequis.org/all_minecraft_resources.txt
06:35 ^🔗	dx	..whoops this isn't for -bs, but whatever
06:35 ^🔗	dx	it's slightly bs-ish
09:16 ^🔗	schbirid	aww man, seeing the librarian couple is so heartbreaking :(
09:26 ^🔗	norbert79	Awww... Damn, you grabbed 7th Guest and 11th Hour from me :(
09:27 ^🔗	norbert79	Damn you DFJustin
09:27 ^🔗	arkhive	:P
09:27 ^🔗	norbert79	I am a bit upset as I have both of them in original
09:27 ^🔗	norbert79	and I can't register them, because they had no CD-Keys
09:27 ^🔗	norbert79	Trilobyte wasn't using CD-Keys
09:28 ^🔗	norbert79	besides I have the 7th Guest as the original boxset
09:28 ^🔗	norbert79	so not a re-release
09:28 ^🔗	norbert79	With the famous issue of the colour balance problems on the CD-ROM
09:28 ^🔗	norbert79	:)
09:28 ^🔗	norbert79	the second CD-ROM wasn't balanced well, so anyone wanting to play had to replace their CD-ROM drives
09:29 ^🔗	norbert79	some 2x CD-ROMS couldn't handle it well
09:29 ^🔗	norbert79	good old times
09:29 ^🔗	norbert79	well, not good, because of the problem, but an intereting thing to remember about
09:33 ^🔗	norbert79	also, I had to realise, that some locally released games can't be registered either... The company releasing them with local content were using a different CD key method, so Steam can't recognize it
09:33 ^🔗	norbert79	I know, not the fault of Steam, but still annoying
09:42 ^🔗	arkhive	ya
09:43 ^🔗	arkhive	i haven't really had too many problems with steam over the 10 years i have been with them(got that stupid 10 years of service badge lol)
09:43 ^🔗	arkhive	i don't like that UPlay and Origin shit
09:43 ^🔗	arkhive	I know the whole you want competition and such
09:43 ^🔗	schbirid	because the bars are not that shiny?
09:43 ^🔗	arkhive	but I want all my games in one place!
09:43 ^🔗	arkhive	lol nice one
09:44 ^🔗	arkhive	and i like it to be with the steam network so fri3ends and i can get together and play and not have to have some shitty other program open
09:45 ^🔗	arkhive	The only game I've purchased on Origin is Command and Conquer Collection and then keys/games from Humble Origin Bundle
09:45 ^🔗	schbirid	fuck steam
09:45 ^🔗	schbirid	it killed demos
09:45 ^🔗	schbirid	and made people _like_ being locked in
09:46 ^🔗	arkhive	yeah i hear you
09:46 ^🔗	arkhive	idk man it's just convenient
09:46 ^🔗	norbert79	They give you Linux support which is nice though... Although I prefer GOG...
09:46 ^🔗	schbirid	so is using lube
09:46 ^🔗	arkhive	i can't bitch about battle.net because i don't play any of those games. haven't played since Diablo 2 and that was awhile ago
09:47 ^🔗	arkhive	heh
09:47 ^🔗	norbert79	I only have GOG and Steam...
09:47 ^🔗	norbert79	not even Origin
09:47 ^🔗	norbert79	well, I have account.. I guess
09:47 ^🔗	norbert79	but not used it
09:47 ^🔗	arkhive	and i had to create a UPlay account for Far Cry 3 and FC3 Blood Dragon. which is like ugghhh another account to make :/
09:48 ^🔗	norbert79	Can't agree more
09:48 ^🔗	norbert79	hate that
09:48 ^🔗	schbirid	and i would have to make a steam account to play any modern games. which ... you get the point
09:48 ^🔗	norbert79	Oh, right, GOG even offers a connection between Steam and them
09:48 ^🔗	norbert79	and that worked ok
09:48 ^🔗	schbirid	"what do you mean, this website is not available on AOL???"
09:48 ^🔗	arkhive	they do?
09:48 ^🔗	arkhive	lol
09:48 ^🔗	arkhive	heh
09:49 ^🔗	norbert79	I am soo lucky not being born in the US to suffer through AOL :)
09:49 ^🔗	arkhive	Speaking of which a year or two ago i went to walmart and they still had Net Zero discs behind checkout
09:49 ^🔗	arkhive	where you at?
09:49 ^🔗	norbert79	Hungary, Europe
09:49 ^🔗	arkhive	oh shit it's probably day time there? it's almost 4am here. i gotta sleep soon
09:49 ^🔗	arkhive	nice
09:50 ^🔗	norbert79	11:49 am :D
09:50 ^🔗	schbirid	i am hungry too
09:50 ^🔗	norbert79	so, indeed
09:50 ^🔗	schbirid	time for lunch
09:50 ^🔗	norbert79	and I just sit here, alone, and smiling at a typical Hungary => hungry reference joke, which we like haven't heard for the millionth time...
09:50 ^🔗	midas	30 minutes till lunch
09:50 ^🔗	norbert79	seriously, this gets old
09:51 ^🔗	norbert79	Oh, sorry... Right... Although I eat a bit later
09:51 ^🔗	arkhive	lol
09:51 ^🔗	norbert79	I try to avoid the crowd
09:51 ^🔗	arkhive	i didn't eat dinner lol
09:51 ^🔗	norbert79	everyone feels like rushing to the cantine at 12pm
09:51 ^🔗	arkhive	well i ate a banana but still
09:52 ^🔗	norbert79	I like to wait 30 minutes more so the first wave disappeard
09:52 ^🔗	norbert79	*disappers
09:52 ^🔗	norbert79	disappears
09:52 ^🔗	arkhive	only cantine i went to was Cantina Laredo but they closed down in Denver, CO area
09:52 ^🔗	norbert79	ffs
09:52 ^🔗	schbirid	norbert79: :)
09:52 ^🔗	norbert79	And I just had a coffee
09:53 ^🔗	norbert79	do you guys in the US have those Nespresso automats, where the machine gives you a capsule like thing, which you can use for making coffee?
09:53 ^🔗	arkhive	shoot. i should go to breakfast king in like 6 hours when i wake back up..whenever i go to sleep..
09:53 ^🔗	arkhive	yea
09:53 ^🔗	norbert79	btw I just realise this looks like a pad
09:53 ^🔗	norbert79	Right
09:54 ^🔗	norbert79	http://www.kleinanzeigen-landesweit.de/anzeige-705681.html
09:54 ^🔗	arkhive	yeah the single cup things. I don't know much about it i'm not a coffee drinker lol. I'm all about Apple Juice and water(though, not together)
09:55 ^🔗	arkhive	:P
09:55 ^🔗	norbert79	I need some coffee occasionally
09:55 ^🔗	norbert79	need to travel each day 70km to get to the office, and because of the distance I am a bit slow some mornings
09:56 ^🔗	arkhive	can i ask how old you are? I'm 24
09:56 ^🔗	norbert79	35
09:56 ^🔗	arkhive	I'm still in college lol. late bloomer :)
09:56 ^🔗	norbert79	I am normally up at 6am or 6:30am
09:57 ^🔗	norbert79	and finish at 5:30pm, get home at 7pm
09:57 ^🔗	arkhive	damn man
09:57 ^🔗	norbert79	I am used to it by now
09:57 ^🔗	norbert79	At least I have a normal job with an ok monthly pay
09:57 ^🔗	arkhive	i have a 40 minute ride to school 4 times a week
09:57 ^🔗	arkhive	that's good
09:57 ^🔗	norbert79	mine takes 60-70 minutes, but I don't mind...
09:58 ^🔗	midas	28
09:58 ^🔗	norbert79	you see I need to get to the bus-station by feet, that takes me 10 minutes
09:58 ^🔗	norbert79	and at the office also another 10 minutes walk
09:58 ^🔗	norbert79	so I am almost riding the bus directly to the office
09:58 ^🔗	norbert79	and that works for me quite nice
09:58 ^🔗	norbert79	and I have an hour for myself during the ride
09:59 ^🔗	arkhive	oh shit. i drive. there is a light rail and bus system in Colorado but i don't like it. takes too long and can't listen to Sirius XM lol
09:59 ^🔗	schbirid	good night arkhive !
09:59 ^🔗	midas	norbert79: you think thats bad? my commute is 6 hours by plane with the new job i just got hired for.
09:59 ^🔗	norbert79	midas: I said it's ok, I am ok with it :)
09:59 ^🔗	norbert79	and I feel you, I often travel to Germany as well
09:59 ^🔗	norbert79	feel with you
09:59 ^🔗	norbert79	goddamn it
09:59 ^🔗	norbert79	typo day
09:59 ^🔗	midas	im moving to abu dhabi
09:59 ^🔗	midas	:p
10:00 ^🔗	arkhive	from where?
10:00 ^🔗	schbirid	i think "i feel you" works too but then i am german
10:00 ^🔗	norbert79	Oh, Super :)
10:00 ^🔗	schbirid	midas: upload jamendo first! :P
10:00 ^🔗	midas	yeah i should :p
10:00 ^🔗	norbert79	Which Bund?
10:00 ^🔗	midas	the disk is laying on my desk :p
10:00 ^🔗	norbert79	I mean which area
10:00 ^🔗	schbirid	:)
10:00 ^🔗	midas	in abu dhabi?
10:01 ^🔗	norbert79	No, Schibird :)
10:01 ^🔗	midas	ah lol doh
10:01 ^🔗	norbert79	sorry...
10:01 ^🔗	midas	bund, thats german right?
10:01 ^🔗	schbirid	oh, "bundesland"!
10:01 ^🔗	norbert79	I am mostly in Nord-Rhein Westfallen, Bonn
10:01 ^🔗	schbirid	bund would be all of it i think
10:01 ^🔗	schbirid	the wonderful hamburg
10:01 ^🔗	norbert79	Ah, was there only once, when I had to go to Bonn :)
10:01 ^🔗	norbert79	At least I could see the airport :)
10:02 ^🔗	norbert79	HH is nice, I wish I could spend there more time
10:02 ^🔗	norbert79	Abu Dhabi... Nice target too
10:03 ^🔗	norbert79	Well, no idea if I will move ever... I am stuck with my wife here, as she doesn't wish to leave parents behind
10:05 ^🔗	norbert79	schbirid: I think you will understand first :) http://9gag.com/gag/ax2Dx9n?sc=geeky
10:06 ^🔗	schbirid	dont judge me but i dont visit that website
10:06 ^🔗	schbirid	:)
10:07 ^🔗	arkhive	i got a 403
10:07 ^🔗	arkhive	to norbert79
10:08 ^🔗	norbert79	Nvm then :) It was a joke about to dress as Hans from Star Wars for next halloween
10:08 ^🔗	norbert79	Hans Olo
10:09 ^🔗	arkhive	i don't get it
10:09 ^🔗	arkhive	i must be missing something?
10:11 ^🔗	norbert79	No, not really, let's just move away from this bad joke
10:11 ^🔗	arkhive	oh. lol okay
10:12 ^🔗	arkhive	oh i got bought the overpriced Razer Ouroboros for 135 USD on amazon
10:12 ^🔗	arkhive	my mom paid for it so i was like okay i'll get it. it looks cool
10:13 ^🔗	norbert79	Ok, that is just indeed crazy
10:13 ^🔗	arkhive	and it isn't worth that much.. obviously.
10:13 ^🔗	arkhive	like 40 dollars would be good
10:13 ^🔗	norbert79	I just had to Google the name
10:13 ^🔗	arkhive	or idk how much. last time i got a mouse was let's see it's right here a logitech uhh hold on
10:13 ^🔗	norbert79	what the hell is that at all? Also, I have seen people using such mice and I can't really feel the difference...
10:13 ^🔗	arkhive	MX510 Logitech Optical mouse
10:14 ^🔗	norbert79	I use a HP mouse and works fine for me :)
10:14 ^🔗	arkhive	ya. i think they all work good for the most time
10:15 ^🔗	norbert79	You know, I would pay maybe this much money for this: http://9gag.com/gag/aXEAv59
10:15 ^🔗	arkhive	oh and get this. the mouse came in like a display case looking box thing. it's like jesus damn i would rather save 15 bucks and have it in a regular cardboard box than this stupid thing
10:15 ^🔗	arkhive	another 403 lol
10:15 ^🔗	norbert79	goddamn it
10:15 ^🔗	arkhive	maybe it is a locale thing?
10:16 ^🔗	norbert79	http://9gag.com/gag/aXEAv59
10:16 ^🔗	schbirid	norbert79: :D
10:16 ^🔗	norbert79	same
10:16 ^🔗	norbert79	wth
10:16 ^🔗	norbert79	Works for me
10:16 ^🔗	norbert79	I don't get this
10:16 ^🔗	arkhive	forbidden 403 man
10:16 ^🔗	norbert79	let me open this through my phone using the direcvt link
10:16 ^🔗	arkhive	let me try on firefox
10:16 ^🔗	arkhive	i'm trying on chrome
10:17 ^🔗	arkhive	same. 403
10:18 ^🔗	norbert79	your network does that
10:18 ^🔗	norbert79	Works for me fine on regular net
10:18 ^🔗	arkhive	what do you mean regular net? what is direcvt?
10:18 ^🔗	arkhive	direcTV?
10:18 ^🔗	arkhive	lol jk
10:18 ^🔗	norbert79	Are you at home or school-net?
10:18 ^🔗	arkhive	home
10:19 ^🔗	norbert79	weird... Something is not ok still
10:19 ^🔗	arkhive	USA
10:19 ^🔗	arkhive	!!!
10:19 ^🔗	norbert79	I am using a regular 3G net through my phone for testing, and it opened the link fine
10:19 ^🔗	arkhive	i'll try on my ... 4G...
10:19 ^🔗	arkhive	just messin sorry
10:19 ^🔗	norbert79	No, we have 4G as well, but it's a company phone :)
10:20 ^🔗	norbert79	also I think 4G is just overrated :)
10:20 ^🔗	arkhive	oh. i didn't know how good hungarys' was
10:20 ^🔗	norbert79	Yeah, we have quite nice options
10:20 ^🔗	norbert79	I have a 100/50 net at home
10:20 ^🔗	arkhive	it is way better than 3G. when i go over my shitty T-Mobile data cap limit they throttle down to 3g
10:20 ^🔗	norbert79	could ask for more, but that's fine for me
10:21 ^🔗	arkhive	shit. the fastest centurylink net i have here is 12Mb/s down 896Kb/s up
10:21 ^🔗	norbert79	the highest bandwith I am normally using is when I listen to German oldies radio :)
10:21 ^🔗	arkhive	heh
10:21 ^🔗	norbert79	ok and when I access my own MC server
10:21 ^🔗	norbert79	my son does do some peeks though
10:21 ^🔗	arkhive	ya i hate this data cap shit and slow net blah balhafjdlwajflaew
10:22 ^🔗	norbert79	origin and Bf3
10:22 ^🔗	arkhive	what is mc
10:22 ^🔗	norbert79	Minecraft
10:22 ^🔗	arkhive	oh
10:22 ^🔗	norbert79	I have a stand-alone server with a few players on it, 1.7.5, have a few plugins so i can handle things more, but it's pure survival
10:22 ^🔗	norbert79	nothing fancy
10:23 ^🔗	arkhive	oh. i've never played minecraft
10:23 ^🔗	norbert79	We love to survive, build and discover
10:23 ^🔗	arkhive	i watched people stream on playstation live on ps4
10:23 ^🔗	norbert79	well, you might not be able anymore, if gets sold to Microsoft
10:23 ^🔗	arkhive	it looks cool
10:23 ^🔗	norbert79	it's nice
10:23 ^🔗	norbert79	there are a few projects ongoing though
10:23 ^🔗	norbert79	to keep the gameplay alive
10:23 ^🔗	arkhive	the graphics suck though
10:23 ^🔗	arkhive	jk
10:23 ^🔗	arkhive	trollololo
10:24 ^🔗	arkhive	i hate when people say that and i don't even play that
10:24 ^🔗	norbert79	http://terasology.org/#
10:24 ^🔗	norbert79	think again ;-)
10:24 ^🔗	arkhive	can i play the whole game there?
10:24 ^🔗	arkhive	link worked btw
10:24 ^🔗	norbert79	It's not Minecraft, just an open-source clone
10:25 ^🔗	norbert79	but for Minecraft there are few plugins which also allow such a nice graphics
10:25 ^🔗	norbert79	but it comes close to the original game
10:25 ^🔗	arkhive	oh. damn. i don't have jre installed on this computer. java is on my imac which i do all my java coding on(netbeans)
10:53 ^🔗	Famicoman	godane, can you edit the tags for the cfh episodes
10:54 ^🔗	Famicoman	They should say Jenn Cutter instead of Jean Cutter
10:54 ^🔗	Famicoman	She would like them to be fixed
11:03 ^🔗	schbirid	for fuck's sake, what is whispersystems keeping so long. they got 400k$ and still no textsecure for ios
11:07 ^🔗	Smiley	i imagine they are being watched very closely
11:19 ^🔗	midas	schbirid: are they secure or secure like the blackphone?
11:22 ^🔗	schbirid	it's moxie marlinspike and friends so i trust them
11:22 ^🔗	schbirid	might be camouflaged lizard people of course
11:24 ^🔗	Smiley	oh i think they maybe trustable
11:24 ^🔗	Smiley	but outside pressures..
11:26 ^🔗	schbirid	they design it properly
11:26 ^🔗	schbirid	that's whats taking so long :)
11:26 ^🔗	schbirid	https://whispersystems.org/blog/
12:29 ^🔗	norbert79	joepie91: Got a copy of the Google leaked password list? I found one, but with no passwords...
12:29 ^🔗	midas	leaked passwords? google?
12:30 ^🔗	schbirid	there is a site with full dumps in onion land
12:30 ^🔗	norbert79	checked for my account, luckily not included
12:31 ^🔗	norbert79	schbirid: Sounds nice, but I am too lazy to install a tor proxy... maybe later today...
12:31 ^🔗	schbirid	tor browser bundle takes 2 minutes
12:31 ^🔗	schbirid	and is the suggested way to browse
12:31 ^🔗	norbert79	office space, office lappy
12:31 ^🔗	norbert79	and no, I prefer plain tor proxy client
12:31 ^🔗	norbert79	in CLI
12:32 ^🔗	norbert79	and then use local port redirect
12:32 ^🔗	joepie91	norbert79: I don't, and it's almost certainly not a Google leak
12:32 ^🔗	schbirid	it's probably more secure if you use TBB
12:32 ^🔗	norbert79	well, the list what i found is just a list of 5 million e-mail addresses
12:32 ^🔗	midas	most dutch password leaks sofar came from a baby department store
12:32 ^🔗	midas	(true story)
12:32 ^🔗	norbert79	not a surprise though
12:33 ^🔗	norbert79	mostly small businesses or businesses with no IT touch are mostly the most vulnerable
12:33 ^🔗	joepie91	norbert79: it's probably just a random compiled login list from a bunch of breaches, filtered by @gmail.com logins
12:33 ^🔗	norbert79	Probably
12:33 ^🔗	joepie91	like the last few "Google leaks"
12:34 ^🔗	norbert79	that's why I was asking if you have a version with passwords included
12:34 ^🔗	joepie91	nop
12:34 ^🔗	joepie91	I care very little for password lists :)
12:34 ^🔗	norbert79	I was just curious :)
12:36 ^🔗	schbirid	hm, it is not on that site
12:36 ^🔗	schbirid	(databin) :(
12:36 ^🔗	midas	i hate it when i unlock my pc and type my password into IRC
12:36 ^🔗	norbert79	midas: where? WHERE? :D
12:36 ^🔗	norbert79	must have missed that window
12:37 ^🔗	midas	norbert79: thats why when i lock my pc i put my irc client on the status window
12:37 ^🔗	midas	;)
12:37 ^🔗	norbert79	:)
12:38 ^🔗	norbert79	that reminds me for vlock... Long time since I last used a lock for CLI...
12:38 ^🔗	norbert79	I am way too much used to SSH sessions
12:46 ^🔗	Rotab	yeah i only got the dump without passwords
13:04 ^🔗	arkhive	okay. i never went to bed.
13:04 ^🔗	arkhive	i got to level nine 56/75 percent complete on Destructomatch joepie91
13:05 ^🔗	norbert79	arkhive: Ok, link please...
13:05 ^🔗	norbert79	Had enough.. Now I want to try it :)
13:05 ^🔗	arkhive	http://cryto.net/destructomatch/ joepie91 dev'd it
13:05 ^🔗	norbert79	Oh, that
13:05 ^🔗	arkhive	what is the max level joepie91
13:05 ^🔗	norbert79	oldie but goodie :)
13:06 ^🔗	arkhive	ya. and i've been playing pong on blinkbundle.com
13:06 ^🔗	arkhive	at the top of the page
13:06 ^🔗	norbert79	Why not snake on Youtube? :)
13:06 ^🔗	arkhive	got to 28 lol.
13:06 ^🔗	arkhive	how do you do that?
13:06 ^🔗	norbert79	I think you pause a video and press UP on your keyboard
13:06 ^🔗	norbert79	your navigation keys
13:07 ^🔗	norbert79	Shift+Up
13:07 ^🔗	arkhive	nope
13:08 ^🔗	norbert79	hmm, wait
13:08 ^🔗	norbert79	worked just moments earlier
13:09 ^🔗	norbert79	Pause the video by clicking into it
13:09 ^🔗	norbert79	hold left button for 3 secs down
13:09 ^🔗	arkhive	i had this on either my windows 98 or ME computer back in the day
13:09 ^🔗	arkhive	okay hold on
13:10 ^🔗	norbert79	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUmQBIglaz4 - Here :)
13:11 ^🔗	arkhive	i'm uising the html5 player maybe that is why
13:11 ^🔗	norbert79	Probably
13:11 ^🔗	arkhive	err my firefox doesn't have flash installed. ffs... so much hassle for everything!!
13:11 ^🔗	arkhive	:)
13:12 ^🔗	arkhive	jezball was the shit though
13:14 ^🔗	norbert79	Level 7
13:15 ^🔗	norbert79	Score 238130...Damn was long time ago since I played this
13:16 ^🔗	arkhive	it took me soooo many tries to get to level 9
13:19 ^🔗	joepie91	:3
13:20 ^🔗	joepie91	arkhive: level 10 is the last level
13:21 ^🔗	joepie91	one person has beaten level 10, so it is winnable
13:21 ^🔗	joepie91	:P
13:26 ^🔗	joepie91	what the actual fuck
13:26 ^🔗	joepie91	my dev env seems to have imploded
13:27 ^🔗	joepie91	meld no longer runs, and nodemon just goes completely apeshit whenever a file changes
13:31 ^🔗	arkhive	http://www.millstone.demon.co.uk/games/jezball/jezball.htm damn. that is a crazy game of jezball
13:33 ^🔗	arkhive	last link for awhile i somewhat promise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYXNr4DcmKw
13:34 ^🔗	arkhive	i didn't know Taco Bell Canada made an arcade game. check it out
14:09 ^🔗	midas	do i need to change my pants after playing?
14:16 ^🔗	vantec	yes
14:18 ^🔗	arkhive	?
14:18 ^🔗	midas	taco bell, insta explosive shit
14:19 ^🔗	arkhive	oh
14:53 ^🔗	godane	Famicoman: its fixed
15:01 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	Has anyone heard that cable internet systems are sensitive to temperature? We keep getting outages in the area and they are blaming it on the almost 30C degree temp drop.
15:02 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	that is 50 degrees in Fahrenheit
15:04 ^🔗	joepie91	aaaaaaaaa: what is the temperature?
15:05 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	it got down to 45 but was over 90 a week ago
15:06 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	but it is supposed to be around 35 over the weekend
15:06 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	its only 52 now.
15:07 ^🔗	joepie91	aaaaaaaaa: sorry, what temperature in celsius?
15:07 ^🔗	joepie91	:p
15:07 ^🔗	joepie91	actually
15:07 ^🔗	joepie91	.wa 45 f in c
15:07 ^🔗	botpie91	convert 45 °F (degrees Fahrenheit) to degrees Celsius;7.222 °C (degrees Celsius);280.37 K (kelvins);504.67 °R (degrees Rankine);5.7778 °Ré (degrees Réaumur);11.292 °Rø (degrees Rømer);7.212 °C above triple point temperature of water (273.2 K);7.222 °C above melting point of water ice (at standard pressure) (0 °C);7.22 °C above ice point of water (273.15 K);temperature;[temperat
15:07 ^🔗	joepie91	yeah, they're full of shit
15:08 ^🔗	joepie91	7 celsius is a fine operating temperature for network equipment
15:08 ^🔗	joepie91	not ideal, but certainly not breakage-causing
15:08 ^🔗	joepie91	the only thing I can see causing issues is material expansion/shrinking due to temperature difference
15:09 ^🔗	joepie91	and if these kind of temperature differences are normal for the environment, that shouldn't be an issue
15:09 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	well, in the winter we get -5C routinely
15:09 ^🔗	joepie91	aaaaaaaaa: -5 happens at times in NL, the internet works just fine
15:09 ^🔗	joepie91	if it's a regular thing, then it should especially not cause issues
15:10 ^🔗	joepie91	so the temperature thing is most likely bullshit
15:10 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	Right, my bs detector went off too so I thought someone might know on -bs
15:10 ^🔗	joepie91	:)
15:10 ^🔗	joepie91	aaaaaaaaa: you are in the US?
15:10 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	Yep, I live in Freedom Land.
15:10 ^🔗	joepie91	then definitely bullshit
15:11 ^🔗	vantec	Better contact Penn & Teller aaaaaaaaa
15:11 ^🔗	joepie91	US ISPs appear to love making shit up about outages and poor service
15:11 ^🔗	joepie91	demonstrably false shit
15:11 ^🔗	joepie91	not sure if it's a culture thing, but I am continuously amazed by the crap that is US internet
15:11 ^🔗	joepie91	not just the speeds
15:11 ^🔗	joepie91	but the overall reliability, customer service, ISP attitude, etc.
15:11 ^🔗	vantec	how about those b/w caps heh?
15:11 ^🔗	joepie91	they just seem to not give a fuck
15:12 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	when you are in non-competition with one other company, why would you?
15:13 ^🔗	godane	SketchCow: i'm uploading 15gb of Led Zeppelin bootlegs to your ftp
15:13 ^🔗	godane	thats only january 1969
15:14 ^🔗	joepie91	aaaaaaaaa: realistically, NL only has a few ISPs
15:15 ^🔗	joepie91	nearly everything is owned by KPN by now
15:15 ^🔗	joepie91	it's similar for other european countries
15:15 ^🔗	joepie91	it's generally a few big telcos that own all the ISPs
15:15 ^🔗	joepie91	hell, insider deals have happened between NL ISPs
15:15 ^🔗	joepie91	yet it's still not as shit as US internet
15:15 ^🔗	joepie91	:P
15:16 ^🔗	joepie91	(KPN is a privatized ex-government telco, by the way, to put things into perspective)
15:16 ^🔗	midas	we have 5 or something
15:16 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	Maybe it is because people are used to shitty service here.
15:16 ^🔗	joepie91	we have... KPN, Tele2, Vodafone, T-Mobile, Ziggo, and a few regional ones I think
15:16 ^🔗	joepie91	afaik everything else is owned by those
15:16 ^🔗	joepie91	we used to have UPC but that's merging with Ziggo now
15:16 ^🔗	joepie91	UPC and Ziggo are the only large cable ISPs
15:17 ^🔗	joepie91	so we now basically have one cable ISP
15:17 ^🔗	joepie91	KPN/Tele2/Vodafine/T-Mobile do ADSL and FttH
15:17 ^🔗	joepie91	but FttH is largely on networks owned by, you guessed it, KPN
15:17 ^🔗	joepie91	same for ADSL
15:17 ^🔗	joepie91	the only alternative ADSL network with any reasonable amount of coverage is owned by Tele2
15:17 ^🔗	joepie91	(used to be independent)
15:17 ^🔗	joepie91	(the FttH networks also used to be independent)
15:17 ^🔗	midas	kpn, ziggo/upc (thats 1 provider now, or will be) unet, zeelandnet and another cable provider
15:18 ^🔗	joepie91	midas: zeelandnet isn't national
15:18 ^🔗	midas	even tele2 uses the kpn infrastructure
15:18 ^🔗	joepie91	and, unet?
15:18 ^🔗	joepie91	no
15:18 ^🔗	joepie91	tele2 has their own infra
15:18 ^🔗	joepie91	former bbned
15:18 ^🔗	joepie91	yes, they rent KPN lines, but no, that's not what they use exclusively
15:18 ^🔗	joepie91	they use their own network where possible
15:18 ^🔗	joepie91	they only use KPN lines to cover the bits of NL that their network doesn't cover
15:18 ^🔗	midas	unet is the largest fiber provider in the netherlands after kpn/regge
15:18 ^🔗	joepie91	(T-Mobile also uses Tele2's network where possible)
15:18 ^🔗	midas	mostly corperate
15:18 ^🔗	joepie91	(err, Online, or w/e they're called now)
15:19 ^🔗	joepie91	midas: right, I was just refering to residential
15:19 ^🔗	midas	yeah thats why i didnt include tmobile-randomname
15:19 ^🔗	midas	ah ok
15:19 ^🔗	joepie91	...?
15:19 ^🔗	joepie91	tmobile does residential
15:19 ^🔗	joepie91	(quite well too, I might add)
15:19 ^🔗	midas	t-mobile doesnt have their own network
15:19 ^🔗	joepie91	or well, I have no idea if it's still part of tmobile
15:19 ^🔗	midas	afaik
15:19 ^🔗	joepie91	online changes name every few months it seems
15:19 ^🔗	joepie91	midas: didn't say they did
15:19 ^🔗	midas	like vodafone
15:20 ^🔗	joepie91	i just said that it was an independent ISP
15:20 ^🔗	joepie91	I *
15:20 ^🔗	midas	true
15:20 ^🔗	joepie91	T-Mobile/Online over former BBNed (so, Tele2) is beautifully stabale
15:20 ^🔗	joepie91	stable *
15:20 ^🔗	joepie91	and KPN-free
15:20 ^🔗	midas	and caiway
15:20 ^🔗	joepie91	caiway is still around? wasn't that absorbed into something else?
15:21 ^🔗	midas	but thats like zeelandnet :+
15:21 ^🔗	midas	nope they are still going
15:21 ^🔗	joepie91	aha
15:21 ^🔗	joepie91	Op 2 mei 2011 werd bekend dat KPN voornemens is om CAIW over te nemen. Op 10 april 2012 zag KPN echter af van de overname omdat deze op te veel bezwaren stuitte van de Nederlandse Mededingingsautoriteit.[1]
15:21 ^🔗	midas	that used to be concepts ICT
15:21 ^🔗	midas	aye
15:21 ^🔗	joepie91	KPN tried to acquire them and was told no
15:21 ^🔗	joepie91	lol
15:22 ^🔗	midas	like they dont have a monopoly position right now
15:22 ^🔗	joepie91	isn't concepts part of KPN now
15:22 ^🔗	joepie91	or something
15:22 ^🔗	midas	no idea
15:22 ^🔗	joepie91	caiway != concepts != zeelandnet
15:22 ^🔗	joepie91	afaik
15:22 ^🔗	joepie91	I recall somebody complaining about concepts being absorbed into something else
15:22 ^🔗	joepie91	it was KPN I think
15:22 ^🔗	joepie91	but not sure
15:23 ^🔗	midas	oh yeah
15:23 ^🔗	midas	concepts was bought by kpn
15:23 ^🔗	joepie91	heh
15:23 ^🔗	joepie91	like basically every other ISP
15:23 ^🔗	midas	caiway is still just caiwai
15:23 ^🔗	joepie91	:P
15:23 ^🔗	midas	caiway and zeelandnet are the same kind of company, very small isps
15:24 ^🔗	midas	zeelandnet being part of delta the energy company in zeeland
15:24 ^🔗	joepie91	so... ziggo, kpn, tele2 (<- own network), t-mobile, vodafone (<- third party network), zeelandnet, caiway (<- small regional ISPs)
15:24 ^🔗	joepie91	basically
15:24 ^🔗	midas	yeah
15:24 ^🔗	joepie91	that's a pretty depressing ISP landscape compared to 5 years ago...
15:25 ^🔗	joepie91	:\|
15:25 ^🔗	joepie91	cc aaaaaaaaa
15:25 ^🔗	midas	oh and kabeltex!
15:26 ^🔗	joepie91	midas: to be fair, though, xs4all still operates more or less independently
15:26 ^🔗	midas	only on texel :P
15:26 ^🔗	joepie91	despite being part of KPN
15:26 ^🔗	joepie91	and lol
15:26 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	and that is the whole country?
15:26 ^🔗	joepie91	how do they even stay afloat
15:26 ^🔗	joepie91	(ba dum tish)
15:26 ^🔗	joepie91	aaaaaaaaa: that's basically all
15:26 ^🔗	midas	durr :+
15:26 ^🔗	joepie91	'real ISPs'
15:26 ^🔗	joepie91	in NL
15:26 ^🔗	joepie91	(hi enter key)
15:27 ^🔗	midas	aaaaaaaaa: we have another ~50 ISPs that just use part of someones connections
15:27 ^🔗	midas	oh joepie91
15:27 ^🔗	midas	tweak
15:27 ^🔗	joepie91	I think there's a few town-and-city-specific ISPs but they all use third party networks and aren't very noteworthy
15:27 ^🔗	joepie91	midas: hmm..
15:27 ^🔗	midas	own network and/or tele2
15:27 ^🔗	joepie91	there was something about tweak
15:27 ^🔗	midas	almere is mostly tweak fiber with own pops etc
15:27 ^🔗	midas	(still, almere so it's horrible)
15:27 ^🔗	joepie91	oh, no
15:27 ^🔗	joepie91	they really ARE independent
15:27 ^🔗	joepie91	lol
15:28 ^🔗	joepie91	I wouldn't want to live there if I got 10gbps for 50 bucks
15:28 ^🔗	midas	i'd live there
15:28 ^🔗	midas	if they gave me 5 meters of rope
15:28 ^🔗	joepie91	haha
15:28 ^🔗	joepie91	also, https://tweakers.net/nieuws/95417/kleine-provider-tweak-levert-gigabit-verbindingen-in-almere-en-enschede.html
15:28 ^🔗	midas	yeah, and its horrible joepie91
15:28 ^🔗	joepie91	ugh, largely KPN network
15:28 ^🔗	joepie91	yeah, that's one of those local ISPs
15:29 ^🔗	midas	the forums are full of horrible connections using sparkl or somehing
15:29 ^🔗	joepie91	aaaaaaaaa: so yeah, that's basically it
15:29 ^🔗	midas	tv signal dropping out, internet dead for 3 weeks
15:29 ^🔗	joepie91	aaaaaaaaa: basically, in the past 10 years, KPN has absorbed like 10-15 different ISPs?
15:29 ^🔗	joepie91	directly or indirectly
15:29 ^🔗	midas	atleast
15:29 ^🔗	joepie91	first a shitload of cheap ISPs merged into Telfort
15:29 ^🔗	joepie91	then Telfort was scooped up by KPN along with a bunch of other ISPs
15:30 ^🔗	joepie91	it's a bit worrying
15:30 ^🔗	midas	then they bought reggefiber, the company that lays most of the residential fibers
15:30 ^🔗	joepie91	sigh
15:30 ^🔗	joepie91	"nah, that's not a monopoly"
15:30 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	just using those companies you listed, my state (which is 3x the size) has the same amount of wired isps, if you count coops and the smaller ones (but not resellers)
15:30 ^🔗	*	joepie91 facedesks
15:30 ^🔗	joepie91	aaaaaaaaa: size in what sense?
15:30 ^🔗	joepie91	area or population?
15:30 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	area
15:31 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	I'll check pop
15:31 ^🔗	joepie91	yeah, don't look at that :P)
15:31 ^🔗	joepie91	:) *
15:31 ^🔗	joepie91	.wa population of the netherlands
15:31 ^🔗	botpie91	Netherlands->population;16.8 million people (world rank: 65th) (2014 estimate);~~ 0.72 × current population of Australia ( 23.214 million people );~~ 0.86 × current population of New York State ( 19.4652 million people );~~ 1.3 × current population of Illinois ( 12.8693 million people )
15:31 ^🔗	midas	aaaaaaaaa: just to give you some perspective, we have 17 million people in this small country
15:32 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	3x the size 1/5th the pop for a density of 21/km
15:32 ^🔗	joepie91	aaaaaaaaa: where do you live?
15:32 ^🔗	midas	in some places you could dig away all the dirt and walk on the cables as ground
15:32 ^🔗	joepie91	state-wise
15:32 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	Iowa
15:32 ^🔗	joepie91	.wa population of iowa vs population of the netherlands
15:32 ^🔗	botpie91	Iowa->population -> Netherlands->population;Iowa->3.09 million people (2013), Netherlands->16.8 million people (world rank: 65th) (2014 estimate)
15:32 ^🔗	joepie91	heh
15:33 ^🔗	midas	lol
15:33 ^🔗	joepie91	.wa population of iowa / population of the netherlands
15:33 ^🔗	botpie91	Iowa->population\/Netherlands->population;0.184 (18.4%) (2013 estimates)
15:33 ^🔗	joepie91	yeah, ouch
15:33 ^🔗	joepie91	that's not many people
15:33 ^🔗	joepie91	also, aaaaaaaaa, we don't really have coops as such
15:33 ^🔗	midas	AND we have the sea trying to drown us all
15:34 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	some areas have less than one family per square mile.
15:34 ^🔗	joepie91	hahaha
15:34 ^🔗	joepie91	midas: occasionally almost succeeding
15:34 ^🔗	midas	true story
15:34 ^🔗	joepie91	.wa population of the Netherlands per square mile
15:34 ^🔗	botpie91	Netherlands->population -> per square mile;16.8 million people -> 1 per square mile (per mile squared) (2014 estimate)
15:34 ^🔗	*	joepie91 raises eyebrow
15:34 ^🔗	midas	that cant be right
15:34 ^🔗	joepie91	.wa area of the netherlands in square miles
15:34 ^🔗	botpie91	convert Netherlands->total area to square miles;16040 mi^2 (square miles);4.472×10^11 ft^2 (square feet);41540 km^2 (square kilometers);4.154×10^10 m^2 (square meters);~~ ( 0.003 ~~ 1\/337 ) × total area of arable land on Earth (~~ 1.4×10^13 m^2 );~~ 0.6 × Lake Victoria area ( 68870 km^2 );~~ 2 × total area of Wales (~~ 8023 mi^2 );Radius r of a circle from A = pir^2:, ->71 miles, ->115 km (kilometers);R
15:34 ^🔗	joepie91	...?
15:35 ^🔗	midas	botpie91: stop confusing the internet!
15:35 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	that is off by a factor of 1000 isn't it
15:35 ^🔗	joepie91	.wa area of the netherlands in square miles / population of the netherlands
15:35 ^🔗	joepie91	seems like it
15:35 ^🔗	botpie91	(convert Netherlands->total area to square miles)\/Netherlands->population;9.54×10^-4 square miles per person (2014 estimate);0.6108 acres per person;26610 square feet per person;0.2472 hectares per person
15:35 ^🔗	joepie91	.... that is not what I asked, wolfram
15:35 ^🔗	midas	try km
15:35 ^🔗	joepie91	.wa people per square mile in the Netherlands
15:35 ^🔗	midas	imperial system is outdated and silly (sorry americans)
15:35 ^🔗	botpie91	Netherlands->population density;1284 people per square mile (world rank: 23rd) (2010 estimate);2.01 people per acre;496 people per square kilometer;4.96×10^-4 people per square meter;Area per person:, ->21700 square feet per person
15:35 ^🔗	joepie91	theeeere we go
15:35 ^🔗	joepie91	that looks better
15:36 ^🔗	joepie91	.wa people per square mile in Iowa
15:36 ^🔗	botpie91	Iowa->population density;54.92 people per square mile;population->3.09 million people, population growth->+0.45% per year (2010-12), population density->54.92 people\/mi^2, annual deaths->27349 people\/yr, annual births->38091 people\/yr, (2013);0.08581 people per acre;21.2 people per square kilometer;2.12×10^-5 people per square meter;Area per person:, ->0.018 square miles per person, ->507633 square feet per person
15:36 ^🔗	midas	that kinda makes sense
15:36 ^🔗	joepie91	hehehe
15:36 ^🔗	midas	.wa people per square mile in abu dhabi
15:36 ^🔗	botpie91	Abu Dhabi->population density;(data not available)
15:36 ^🔗	joepie91	hahaha
15:36 ^🔗	midas	noice.
15:36 ^🔗	joepie91	nope.avi
15:37 ^🔗	joepie91	.wa gdp of abu dhabi
15:37 ^🔗	botpie91	Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss.
15:37 ^🔗	*	joepie91 sighs
15:37 ^🔗	midas	...
15:37 ^🔗	garyrh	heh
15:37 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	this botpie is slick, when it works.
15:37 ^🔗	midas	.wa people per square mile in United Arab Emirates
15:37 ^🔗	botpie91	United Arab Emirates->population density;256 people per square mile (world rank: 110th) (2010 estimate);0.401 people per acre;99 people per square kilometer;9.9×10^-5 people per square meter;Area per person:, ->109000 square feet per person
15:38 ^🔗	midas	holy crap
15:38 ^🔗	xmc	.wa popes per square mile in vatican city
15:38 ^🔗	midas	hah
15:38 ^🔗	botpie91	Error fetching URI.
15:38 ^🔗	joepie91	aaaaaaaaa: it's a modified phenny :)
15:38 ^🔗	joepie91	I wrote a few custom modules
15:38 ^🔗	joepie91	such as
15:38 ^🔗	midas	time to roll!
15:38 ^🔗	joepie91	.license wtfpl
15:38 ^🔗	botpie91	Sorry, could not find any licenses for that search term.
15:38 ^🔗	joepie91	...
15:38 ^🔗	joepie91	.license gpl
15:38 ^🔗	botpie91	Sorry, could not find any licenses for that search term.
15:38 ^🔗	joepie91	right, it broke
15:38 ^🔗	midas	culater
15:38 ^🔗	joepie91	tldrlegal probably updated their site
15:39 ^🔗	joepie91	.bitcoin
15:39 ^🔗	botpie91	1 BTC = $474.99, 1 BTC = â¬367.27
15:39 ^🔗	midas	lol botpie at it's best ;)
15:39 ^🔗	joepie91	there, that works :P
15:39 ^🔗	*	joepie91 adds to todo list
15:39 ^🔗	xmc	bitcoin is useless!
15:39 ^🔗	joepie91	xmc: objectively false
15:39 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	not if you have 20 of them
15:39 ^🔗	xmc	nananannana bitcoin!
15:40 ^🔗	arkiver	.bitcoin
15:40 ^🔗	botpie91	1 BTC = $474.95, 1 BTC = â¬367.24
15:40 ^🔗	*	joepie91 adds card to his board
15:40 ^🔗	joepie91	k
15:40 ^🔗	joepie91	I kinda forgot what other modules I made for it...
15:41 ^🔗	arkiver	.license
15:41 ^🔗	botpie91	Sorry, could not find any licenses for that search term.
15:41 ^🔗	arkiver	awesome joepie91!!!
15:41 ^🔗	joepie91	oh right, there's a bunch of network/IP/etc. info stuff functions
15:41 ^🔗	joepie91	but they're a bit noisy...
15:42 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	.t
15:42 ^🔗	botpie91	Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:42:02 GMT
15:42 ^🔗	joepie91	one particularly practical thing
15:42 ^🔗	joepie91	botpie91: tell aaaaaaaaa that herp derp
15:42 ^🔗	botpie91	joepie91: I'll pass that on when aaaaaaaaa is around.
15:45 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	now what?
15:45 ^🔗	botpie91	aaaaaaaaa: 15:42Z <joepie91> tell aaaaaaaaa that herp derp
15:46 ^🔗	vantec	hehe
15:46 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	Ah
15:48 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	I'll keep that one in mind in the future
15:49 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	does it wait for them to say something or does it also fire off on joins?
15:50 ^🔗	joepie91	aaaaaaaaa: only when somebody says something
15:50 ^🔗	joepie91	to avoid misdelivering to somebody with a dropped connection
15:50 ^🔗	joepie91	:P
15:50 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	makes sense
15:54 ^🔗	godane	i'm grabbing gamecca magazine
16:59 ^🔗	sep332	https://www.doctape.com/ is going down November 25
17:00 ^🔗	sep332	"Weâd like to thank all of our users and early adopters for their trust"
17:00 ^🔗	sep332	"along this amazing journey!"
17:04 ^🔗	joepie91	sep332: I should set up a google alert for "journey -travel"
17:22 ^🔗	RedType	JOURNEY JOURNEY JOURNEY
17:22 ^🔗	RedType	idgi: why do so many startups insist on using that phrase when they shit the bed with the lights on?
17:25 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	Probably just another part of MBA speak; like rightsizing or synergy
17:26 ^🔗	garyrh	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyV_UG60dD4
17:34 ^🔗	joepie91	RedType: travelling business class phenomenon
17:34 ^🔗	joepie91	(class as in teaching)
17:35 ^🔗	joepie91	as if there's some travelling teacher that goes everywhere to teach everybody the same lingo and associated bullshit
17:42 ^🔗	arkiver	I just saw this http://pastebin.com/EUzDgPSw
17:43 ^🔗	arkiver	wow, what made Dec-31-99 flip that bad? O.o
17:46 ^🔗	vantec	He kept asking more and more questions after he was told that was enough.
17:46 ^🔗	garyrh	and then he got banned.
17:46 ^🔗	antomatic	I'm sure everyone can tell a story of the first time that JS said something they didn't like to them. But everyone handles it differently.
17:46 ^🔗	vantec	At the tipping point, every time he ask/said something stupid he lost a channel.
17:46 ^🔗	antomatic	I think it's kind of a rite of passage, in some ways. :)
17:47 ^🔗	vantec	Just stay awhile and listen. That is what I did.
17:52 ^🔗	pft	people who don't understand efnet are so cute
17:53 ^🔗	schbirid	fuck efnet
17:53 ^🔗	schbirid	i dont know how often i have been k lined because someone else abused my dynamic ip earlier
17:54 ^🔗	pft	you're lucky that you can irc off a dynamic ip
17:54 ^🔗	pft	efnet is the land of people flooding you off for pretty much zero reason
17:55 ^🔗	midas	arkiver: where did you find that?
17:55 ^🔗	Kazzy	hahaha, this guy
17:56 ^🔗	schbirid	midas: he joined and posted it yesterday
17:56 ^🔗	joepie91	pft: there is a reason I don't venture outside AT channels
17:56 ^🔗	pft	i started having to use a colo'd machine many years ago if we wanted to maintain ops on some of the more common channels i'm on
17:56 ^🔗	midas	hahahaha oh my, i think he had a little mental breakdown
17:56 ^🔗	Kazzy	it was great
17:57 ^🔗	garyrh	there was also this: https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/509846386494681088
17:57 ^🔗	midas	why do people take irc or even life so serious
17:58 ^🔗	pft	becuase they are 16-year old boys?
17:58 ^🔗	schbirid	his post reminded me of the templeos guy
18:13 ^🔗	arkiver	maybe I shouldn't ask this, but anyone has the logs of when he freaked out?
18:13 ^🔗	arkiver	it's just I want to know how it went :/
18:13 ^🔗	Kazzy	was across multiple channels, will see what i can get though
18:16 ^🔗	Smiley	hmmm wow
18:17 ^🔗	garyrh	arkiver, here's some of it (don't know who posted it) http://pastebin.com/6uCR6hVU
18:18 ^🔗	garyrh	oh, I guess Dec-31-99 did.
18:18 ^🔗	Kazzy	http://paste.archivingyoursh.it/raw/rifigapete
18:19 ^🔗	Kazzy	the huge block is just form -bs, gets better near the end. then there's his spam in #archiveteam
18:21 ^🔗	Smiley	i got removed from a quake clan for chatting too much once
18:21 ^🔗	Smiley	that was odd
18:22 ^🔗	Smiley	Anyway, i proved myself in archiveteam by grabbing most of ign
18:24 ^🔗	godane	i proved myself by uploading tons of stuff to the point of needing a inbox
18:25 ^🔗	Smiley	ahah i remember when we wondered about you godane, ya turned out useful :D
18:27 ^🔗	midas	i dont feel i need to prove myself :) that sounds like work :P
18:27 ^🔗	Smiley	:D
18:29 ^🔗	RedType	speaking of proving oneself, i havent run a warrior since college and im about to plunk down a wad of cash on VPSes
18:29 ^🔗	RedType	any VPS provider recommendations? i'm just going to use weLoveServers
18:30 ^🔗	Smiley	i use do instances
18:30 ^🔗	Smiley	digitalocean
18:30 ^🔗	Smiley	ill give u free credit if ur buying more
18:32 ^🔗	RedType	"handcrafted by our developers" rofl
18:32 ^🔗	joepie91	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2g4jwa/im_starting_to_think_that_this_is_the_strategy_of/
18:32 ^🔗	RedType	see where i work, we only smash our faces on the keyboard to generate code
18:32 ^🔗	joepie91	RedType: recommendations for archiving...?
18:33 ^🔗	joepie91	or in general?
18:33 ^🔗	RedType	archiving
18:33 ^🔗	RedType	im researching DO right now
18:33 ^🔗	joepie91	DO is a bit meh
18:33 ^🔗	joepie91	RedType: ramnode is nice, VPS-forge is definitely good also
18:33 ^🔗	joepie91	especially with their new unmetered gigabit.. :D
18:34 ^🔗	joepie91	ramhost is nice, but not that cheap
18:34 ^🔗	joepie91	hmm
18:34 ^🔗	joepie91	let me check what backupsy's TOS are
18:34 ^🔗	Kazzy	use vpsdime over backupsy, i'd say
18:34 ^🔗	Kazzy	same setup, lower prices
18:34 ^🔗	RedType	j/c: is there a peak bandwidth amount that any given warrior uses?
18:34 ^🔗	Kazzy	that said, they throttle IO, not sure how much
18:35 ^🔗	joepie91	US Locations are allowed to run software/OS that assists backing up, owncloud, private VPN/Proxy, development, monitoring and other light CPU and IO intensive applications except Torrents, TOR and Game Servers. NL Location is allowed to run anything except Torrents, TOR, Game Servers.
18:35 ^🔗	joepie91	Kazzy: doesn't vpsdime have less disk space
18:35 ^🔗	joepie91	or did that change
18:35 ^🔗	Kazzy	vpsdime have storage plans now
18:35 ^🔗	joepie91	aha, did not know that
18:35 ^🔗	Kazzy	500gb $7/mo
18:35 ^🔗	RedType	so weloveservers doesnt care as long as it's not illegal
18:36 ^🔗	midas	oh wait i remember that happening and didnt care about it. i've decided to not care now too.
18:38 ^🔗	joepie91	but yeah, can recommend vpsdime/backupsy/that entire chain
18:38 ^🔗	*	joepie91 thinks
18:39 ^🔗	RedType	next question: how much RAM should i allocate to a modern warrior?
18:39 ^🔗	midas	ovh soyoustart
18:39 ^🔗	RedType	i used to run it with 1GB
18:40 ^🔗	RedType	but can i get away with half a gig? i should hope so..
18:40 ^🔗	joepie91	oh yes, OVH is fine too
18:40 ^🔗	midas	thats what im using
18:40 ^🔗	joepie91	RedType: you can always just create swap on a dedi or KVM
18:40 ^🔗	joepie91	:P
18:40 ^🔗	midas	2 atom boxes and a couple of backup boxes from soyoustart works fine :)
18:41 ^🔗	RedType	joepie91: well im going to run it in a virtual box vm as seems to be the custom and obv im going to allocate swap
18:41 ^🔗	RedType	but i like avoiding swap if possible
18:41 ^🔗	midas	i'd do with running pipelines RedType
18:41 ^🔗	RedType	i have ZERO aws experience
18:41 ^🔗	midas	you can run anything between 1 and 12 projects at once
18:42 ^🔗	midas	you dont need aws
18:42 ^🔗	RedType	oh in the warrior
18:42 ^🔗	midas	i run them on my atom boxes, they can run atleast 4 pipelines without any isues
18:42 ^🔗	joepie91	yeah, don't run virtualbox on a VPS
18:42 ^🔗	joepie91	you'll regret it
18:42 ^🔗	joepie91	:P
18:42 ^🔗	midas	the warrior is just a skin around the pipeline RedType
18:42 ^🔗	RedType	ive never tried. thanks for the heads up
18:42 ^🔗	RedType	yeah
18:43 ^🔗	RedType	looks im building a big beefy warrior instead of running 3 or 4 which was my original intention
18:43 ^🔗	schbirid	damn, Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 2.2GHz 2x 2TB 8GB 1Gbps 29 â¬
18:43 ^🔗	schbirid	http://oneprovider.com/dedicated-servers/nottingham-united-kingdom
18:43 ^🔗	midas	oneprovider sucks
18:43 ^🔗	schbirid	yes but for that price they rock
18:43 ^🔗	schbirid	4TB!
18:44 ^🔗	joepie91	ehhhhh
18:45 ^🔗	midas	they removed the backup servers from soyoustart :<
18:45 ^🔗	joepie91	schbirid: you know that oneprovider just resells, right
18:45 ^🔗	schbirid	joepie91: i am happy with the server i got 9 months ago
18:45 ^🔗	schbirid	super duper happy
18:45 ^🔗	schbirid	(for the price)
18:45 ^🔗	midas	last time i used oneprovider i got online.net and leaseweb.nl servers
18:45 ^🔗	joepie91	schbirid: okay, so, two things
18:45 ^🔗	joepie91	1. when you need support, you have a problem
18:45 ^🔗	joepie91	2. they resell - that means they can almost certainly be gotten cheaper at the source than at the reseller
18:46 ^🔗	joepie91	because oneprovider are not 'authorized resellers' and do not get special deals
18:46 ^🔗	midas	you probably get wilfried
18:46 ^🔗	joepie91	they just pick up promos where they can
18:46 ^🔗	joepie91	and when somebody cancels, reallocate the server to somebody else
18:46 ^🔗	joepie91	all the while being a customer support proxy to the actual host with a particularly unfavourable signal-to-noise ratio
18:46 ^🔗	schbirid	1. support is dumb and evil but they managed to resolve my issues after all
18:46 ^🔗	schbirid	2. nopie?
18:47 ^🔗	joepie91	?
18:47 ^🔗	midas	they forced me to reinstall my server after a simple zmap
18:47 ^🔗	RedType	oh sweet i can get it preconfigured with WINDOWS SERVER
18:47 ^🔗	joepie91	sidenote: they are known for mislabelling locations of servers
18:48 ^🔗	joepie91	that is; they will sell you a server that is 'located in X' but is actually just an OVH box with geolocated IP
18:48 ^🔗	schbirid	my server is cheaper than at the source
18:49 ^🔗	joepie91	schbirid: where is it physically hosted?
18:49 ^🔗	RedType	okay so, i'm going to trial it on a box at home but what im taking away from all this is to get a dedi, set up a super beefy warrior, figure out a good pipeline setup for it, allocate a lot of disk space to it and let it go
18:49 ^🔗	joepie91	and I mean datacenter
18:49 ^🔗	joepie91	RedType: lots of small servers will work better than one large server, usually
18:49 ^🔗	schbirid	can't say i really care
18:49 ^🔗	joepie91	due to IP throttling
18:49 ^🔗	joepie91	schbirid: you don't know where it is located?
18:49 ^🔗	RedType	ffff. okay.
18:50 ^🔗	schbirid	it does what i want it to do, couldn't care less where it sits :)
18:50 ^🔗	midas	traceroute it schbirid
18:50 ^🔗	joepie91	schbirid: if you don't know where it is, how can you know that it's cheaper than at the source?
18:50 ^🔗	schbirid	oh, it's online.net. i know that
18:50 ^🔗	schbirid	supposed to be paris
18:51 ^🔗	RedType	joepie91: that was what i was originally going to do because of afformentioned throttling. i guess ill fall back and do some more VPS evaluation
18:51 ^🔗	schbirid	AS12876
18:51 ^🔗	joepie91	schbirid: and what do you pay for it?
18:51 ^🔗	joepie91	for what specs?
18:52 ^🔗	schbirid	joepie91: http://oneprovider.com/dedicated-servers/paris-france the 20â¬ one
18:52 ^🔗	schbirid	-540 actually
18:53 ^🔗	midas	i'd might colocate my own box in a couple of months tho
18:53 ^🔗	midas	cheaper in the end
18:54 ^🔗	godane	SketchCow: maybe the 8" internal floppy drive you have been looking for: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mitsubishi-M2896-63-02U-8-Internal-Floppy-Drive-N-O-S-8-Floppy-Drive-NEW-/181474447240?pt=US_Floppy_Zip_Jaz_Drives&hash=item2a40b84f88
18:54 ^🔗	godane	even links to a bitsavers document: https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_mitsubishianceManual_5094595
18:57 ^🔗	joepie91	jesus christ
18:57 ^🔗	joepie91	online.net changes their server lineup more often than I change my underwear
18:58 ^🔗	schbirid	:)
18:58 ^🔗	schbirid	i did check back then
18:58 ^🔗	joepie91	schbirid: looking at their recent prices (and I've gotten tired of spitting through the wayback machine, tbh) they are likely charging you 3-5 euro more than it would've cost straight from online.net at the time that server was sold
18:58 ^🔗	schbirid	huh
18:58 ^🔗	joepie91	as I said, they recycle servers
18:58 ^🔗	schbirid	oh well, i am happy
18:58 ^🔗	joepie91	they often get them when they're cheaper
18:58 ^🔗	joepie91	stock up
18:58 ^🔗	schbirid	be happy with me!
18:58 ^🔗	joepie91	resell based on that price
18:58 ^🔗	joepie91	their entire business models is living off promos, basically
18:58 ^🔗	joepie91	model *
19:02 ^🔗	*	joepie91 vaguely recalls them selling VMs as dedicated servers at some point...
19:02 ^🔗	godane	SketchCow: another 8 inch floppy drive: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-HEATH-ZENITH-H-Z-207-8-inch-FLOPPY-DRIVE-UNTESTED-MISSING-1-FLOPPY-DRV-/131292520214?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item1e91a4df16
19:04 ^🔗	godane	http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-inch-floppy-disk-drive-/400337148964?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d35f41c24
19:06 ^🔗	godane	Capitol BBS S100 Computer: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Capitol-BBS-S100-Computer-Vintage-Survivor-HISTORIC-UNIQUE-RARE-FIND/321506099094/
19:11 ^🔗	RedType	what's the verdict on warriors and ipv6
19:11 ^🔗	RedType	should i configure it? or not care?
19:13 ^🔗	midas	so far most sites we grabbed didnt support ipv6
19:13 ^🔗	midas	kinda stupid tho that they dont support ipv6
19:38 ^🔗	RedType	midas: honestly i know very little about ipv6
19:38 ^🔗	RedType	ask me what loopback is, localhost, etc
19:38 ^🔗	RedType	i dunno lol!
19:46 ^🔗	joepie91	::1
19:46 ^🔗	joepie91	(I've just exhausted my IPv6 knowledge)
19:49 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	what drives me nuts is you have to remember to put [] around the address in order to not mistake it with a port reference. Colons were a dumb idea because they were already used for something network related.
19:57 ^🔗	RedType	they should have used emoji
19:58 ^🔗	RedType	192[happy face]168[happy face]1[smiling poo]0[train station]24
20:07 ^🔗	schbirid	somehow i feel this is AT related http://vimeo.com/65295548
20:09 ^🔗	joepie91	.t
20:09 ^🔗	botpie91	Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:09:14 GMT
20:09 ^🔗	joepie91	...
20:09 ^🔗	joepie91	.title
20:09 ^🔗	botpie91	joepie91: FACTORY on Vimeo
20:09 ^🔗	joepie91	well that was not helpful
20:13 ^🔗	midas	i blame yipdw for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RcBdNZKYn4 and pressing replay for the last 30 minutes
20:13 ^🔗	SN4T14	midas, http://listenonrepeat.com/watch/?v=9RcBdNZKYn4#Little_Boots_-_Confusion
20:13 ^🔗	SN4T14	:p
20:14 ^🔗	midas	omg
20:14 ^🔗	midas	i dont like you anymore :P
20:14 ^🔗	SN4T14	<3
20:18 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	Sadly this is EU only but the US might follow: http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2014-09/cp140124en.pdf
20:18 ^🔗	arkhive	now I am going to bed. I've been up for 30 hours. since 8am Mountain Time til now (2:20pm)
20:19 ^🔗	arkhive	running on fumes i think the saying is
20:20 ^🔗	arkhive	godane: i keep an eye on craigslist frequently looking for anything floppy, laserdisc,vintage/old computer stuff, CEDs, 8 tracks, so on.
20:20 ^🔗	arkhive	i still wish i would've been able to get the 8inch floppy computer the guy was giving away.. shit what was it called.
20:20 ^🔗	arkhive	hold on
20:24 ^🔗	arkhive	there. found it in an archived email. it was the OSI C3 OEM computer with dual 8 inch floppy drives, original software and manuals/literature, all working order.
20:24 ^🔗	arkhive	but i was too late. :(
20:25 ^🔗	arkhive	Shit i still need to ship my thousand or 2000 floppies to SketchCow . half 3.5 half 5.25"
20:26 ^🔗	joepie91	aaaaaaaaa:
20:26 ^🔗	joepie91	http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2014-09/cp140124en.pd
20:26 ^🔗	joepie91	accidentally left off the f
20:26 ^🔗	joepie91	that's one of the weirdest error pages I've seen
20:27 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	wow, quoted the RFC. That is one way to do it
20:27 ^🔗	arkhive	i hope swebb got it. He's the only other person i know in AT that also lives in Colorado
20:35 ^🔗	schbirid	ah man, fuck javascript form "enhancement". github just ate my bug report because i had the guts to click a link
20:36 ^🔗	joepie91	schbirid: install lazarus
20:36 ^🔗	joepie91	it's magic ;)
20:36 ^🔗	schbirid	no opera love :(
20:37 ^🔗	joepie91	I should note that both Chrome and FF just remember your form input when you navigate away, most of the time...
20:37 ^🔗	joepie91	as long as you don't close the tab
20:37 ^🔗	aaaaaaaaa	If I'm going to post something long, I usually just do it in notepad and copy-paste.
20:38 ^🔗	schbirid	just like opera, which usually does a better job of it
21:26 ^🔗	ersi	joepie91: bla bla bla
21:26 ^🔗	ersi	etc
21:27 ^🔗	ersi	:D
21:27 ^🔗	schbirid	weeooooweeeooo
21:28 ^🔗	joepie91	ersi: :P
21:28 ^🔗	joepie91	you just lighted a siren on fire, though
21:28 ^🔗	joepie91	I hope that wasn't an archiveteam siren
21:28 ^🔗	joepie91	because I don't think we have budget for that kind of stuff
21:29 ^🔗	*	ersi lights joepie91 on fire
21:29 ^🔗	*	ersi steals joepie91 bitcoins
21:29 ^🔗	*	joepie91 runs around in panic
21:29 ^🔗	ersi	Excellent
21:30 ^🔗	*	ersi makes a quick escape
21:30 ^🔗	joepie91	:(
21:31 ^🔗	schbirid	i met a guy recently who bought a keyboard for 80 bitcoins :)
21:31 ^🔗	RedType	like a musical instrument
21:31 ^🔗	schbirid	yeh
21:31 ^🔗	ersi	80 btc is 38 000.00 usd
21:31 ^🔗	ersi	bam
21:48 ^🔗	godane	so the first 10 days of 2007-09 for funny or die collection is almost uploaded fully
23:07 ^🔗	godane	i'm getting bbs software from aol
23:28 ^🔗	joepie91	found an interesting torrent
23:28 ^🔗	joepie91	https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/5641568/IEEEXPLORE_Most_Downloaded_papers_from_IEEE_journals_[MYRIAD]

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