[00:01] RedType: if you hear the call, you will know what to do. [00:01] that is how destiny works [00:18] so, we have a case of the angry kid syndrome? [00:19] fun.. [00:34] i wish i had known about you guys earlier. like, a year or two earlier. [00:35] i've done two or three quite lame attempts to rescue a few websites, failed horribly since i didn't really have a proper toolchain and a place to store it all [00:37] well, the last one wasn't even that. i got the news that a forum was going to go down forever when the admin had already removed all the forum related php scripts :( [00:40] spent a whole night trying to discover interesting files remaining in the server and maybe, hopefully, some vulnerabilities in their very outdated LAMP setup to get a shell and hopefully dump the database which seemed to be there still, but got nothing. [00:46] ...oh hey archive.org has 16320 URLs achived from that forum. that's much better than i thought. the posts i needed are kinda outdated but still much better than nothing [01:21] dx: what forum? [01:25] oh, i didn't say it. [01:25] joepie91: http://web.archive.org/web/20100926064004/http://www.tdt-latinoamerica.tv/foro [01:26] there were a few threads about modding TV set top boxes to run linux in them [01:26] well, rather, they already had linux. modding the linux to run interesting stuff in it [01:30] aha [01:30] haven't heard of it [01:30] but yeah, archiveteam is awesome :D [02:21] SketchCow: that was an excellent docu. [02:24] SketchCow: also, you're the thumbnail on the site: http://tegenlicht.vpro.nl/afleveringen/2014-2015/digitaal-geheugenverlies.html [02:25] (and the play button is, apparently, broken) [03:57] SketchCow: i'm starting to do the bootlegs archiving [03:57] its going to be uploaded to your ftp [03:58] mostly cause some of these have more then one recording of the same show [04:38] G96WA-EZKVX-VN4VW I think this is still a valid key i have for Super Lemonade Factory I got from Bundle Stars leftover. have fun to whoever takes it first [04:38] L34C0-4BYRG-LYJJQ Guacamelee! Gold Edition left over extra from Bundle Stars [04:38] let me know when taken [04:38] (Steam, obviously) [04:39] 7th Guest and 11th Hour Steam key leftover extra from Bundle STars. Enjoy 20DVN-YL5W7-4JGY4 [04:40] Hydrophobia Prophecy left over Steam key from Bundle Stars CNXP3-Y5QPA-0R2ZL [04:40] Legendary left over Steam key from Bundle Stars QIF90-LJT54-YE036 [04:41] Rune Spell: Overture left over Steam key from Bundle Stars D00ZG-8NMF0-52NBP [04:41] That is all for now. Have fun people. :P [04:41] btw they are legit keys non stolen. i got them from purchasing tons of bundles and finally i started getting dupes [05:08] grabbed 7th guest / 11th hour, thanks [05:13] np man [05:16] i have about 60 more. some are big budget games some aren't [05:16] most aren't* [05:56] Parkan 2 left over Steam key from Bundle Stars RVP2C-MCIL0-5WIGT [06:35] balrog: took me a bit too much to get this done, but here https://gist.github.com/dequis/d24ce9d9915401f13dd1 / http://dequis.org/all_minecraft_resources.txt [06:35] ..whoops this isn't for -bs, but whatever [06:35] it's slightly bs-ish [09:16] aww man, seeing the librarian couple is so heartbreaking :( [09:26] Awww... Damn, you grabbed 7th Guest and 11th Hour from me :( [09:27] Damn you DFJustin [09:27] :P [09:27] I am a bit upset as I have both of them in original [09:27] and I can't register them, because they had no CD-Keys [09:27] Trilobyte wasn't using CD-Keys [09:28] besides I have the 7th Guest as the original boxset [09:28] so not a re-release [09:28] With the famous issue of the colour balance problems on the CD-ROM [09:28] :) [09:28] the second CD-ROM wasn't balanced well, so anyone wanting to play had to replace their CD-ROM drives [09:29] some 2x CD-ROMS couldn't handle it well [09:29] good old times [09:29] well, not good, because of the problem, but an intereting thing to remember about [09:33] also, I had to realise, that some locally released games can't be registered either... The company releasing them with local content were using a different CD key method, so Steam can't recognize it [09:33] I know, not the fault of Steam, but still annoying [09:42] ya [09:43] i haven't really had too many problems with steam over the 10 years i have been with them(got that stupid 10 years of service badge lol) [09:43] i don't like that UPlay and Origin shit [09:43] I know the whole you want competition and such [09:43] because the bars are not that shiny? [09:43] but I want all my games in one place! [09:43] lol nice one [09:44] and i like it to be with the steam network so fri3ends and i can get together and play and not have to have some shitty other program open [09:45] The only game I've purchased on Origin is Command and Conquer Collection and then keys/games from Humble Origin Bundle [09:45] fuck steam [09:45] it killed demos [09:45] and made people _like_ being locked in [09:46] yeah i hear you [09:46] idk man it's just convenient [09:46] They give you Linux support which is nice though... Although I prefer GOG... [09:46] so is using lube [09:46] i can't bitch about battle.net because i don't play any of those games. haven't played since Diablo 2 and that was awhile ago [09:47] heh [09:47] I only have GOG and Steam... [09:47] not even Origin [09:47] well, I have account.. I guess [09:47] but not used it [09:47] and i had to create a UPlay account for Far Cry 3 and FC3 Blood Dragon. which is like ugghhh another account to make :/ [09:48] Can't agree more [09:48] hate that [09:48] and i would have to make a steam account to play any modern games. which ... you get the point [09:48] Oh, right, GOG even offers a connection between Steam and them [09:48] and that worked ok [09:48] "what do you mean, this website is not available on AOL???" [09:48] they do? [09:48] lol [09:48] heh [09:49] I am soo lucky not being born in the US to suffer through AOL :) [09:49] Speaking of which a year or two ago i went to walmart and they still had Net Zero discs behind checkout [09:49] where you at? [09:49] Hungary, Europe [09:49] oh shit it's probably day time there? it's almost 4am here. i gotta sleep soon [09:49] nice [09:50] 11:49 am :D [09:50] i am hungry too [09:50] so, indeed [09:50] time for lunch [09:50] and I just sit here, alone, and smiling at a typical Hungary => hungry reference joke, which we like haven't heard for the millionth time... [09:50] 30 minutes till lunch [09:50] seriously, this gets old [09:51] Oh, sorry... Right... Although I eat a bit later [09:51] lol [09:51] I try to avoid the crowd [09:51] i didn't eat dinner lol [09:51] everyone feels like rushing to the cantine at 12pm [09:51] well i ate a banana but still [09:52] I like to wait 30 minutes more so the first wave disappeard [09:52] *disappers [09:52] disappears [09:52] only cantine i went to was Cantina Laredo but they closed down in Denver, CO area [09:52] ffs [09:52] norbert79: :) [09:52] And I just had a coffee [09:53] do you guys in the US have those Nespresso automats, where the machine gives you a capsule like thing, which you can use for making coffee? [09:53] shoot. i should go to breakfast king in like 6 hours when i wake back up..whenever i go to sleep.. [09:53] yea [09:53] btw I just realise this looks like a pad [09:53] Right [09:54] http://www.kleinanzeigen-landesweit.de/anzeige-705681.html [09:54] yeah the single cup things. I don't know much about it i'm not a coffee drinker lol. I'm all about Apple Juice and water(though, not together) [09:55] :P [09:55] I need some coffee occasionally [09:55] need to travel each day 70km to get to the office, and because of the distance I am a bit slow some mornings [09:56] can i ask how old you are? I'm 24 [09:56] 35 [09:56] I'm still in college lol. late bloomer :) [09:56] I am normally up at 6am or 6:30am [09:57] and finish at 5:30pm, get home at 7pm [09:57] damn man [09:57] I am used to it by now [09:57] At least I have a normal job with an ok monthly pay [09:57] i have a 40 minute ride to school 4 times a week [09:57] that's good [09:57] mine takes 60-70 minutes, but I don't mind... [09:58] 28 [09:58] you see I need to get to the bus-station by feet, that takes me 10 minutes [09:58] and at the office also another 10 minutes walk [09:58] so I am almost riding the bus directly to the office [09:58] and that works for me quite nice [09:58] and I have an hour for myself during the ride [09:59] oh shit. i drive. there is a light rail and bus system in Colorado but i don't like it. takes too long and can't listen to Sirius XM lol [09:59] good night arkhive ! [09:59] norbert79: you think thats bad? my commute is 6 hours by plane with the new job i just got hired for. [09:59] midas: I said it's ok, I am ok with it :) [09:59] and I feel you, I often travel to Germany as well [09:59] feel with you [09:59] goddamn it [09:59] typo day [09:59] im moving to abu dhabi [09:59] :p [10:00] from where? [10:00] i think "i feel you" works too but then i am german [10:00] Oh, Super :) [10:00] midas: upload jamendo first! :P [10:00] yeah i should :p [10:00] Which Bund? [10:00] the disk is laying on my desk :p [10:00] I mean which area [10:00] :) [10:00] in abu dhabi? [10:01] No, Schibird :) [10:01] ah lol doh [10:01] sorry... [10:01] bund, thats german right? [10:01] oh, "bundesland"! [10:01] I am mostly in Nord-Rhein Westfallen, Bonn [10:01] bund would be all of it i think [10:01] the wonderful hamburg [10:01] Ah, was there only once, when I had to go to Bonn :) [10:01] At least I could see the airport :) [10:02] HH is nice, I wish I could spend there more time [10:02] Abu Dhabi... Nice target too [10:03] Well, no idea if I will move ever... I am stuck with my wife here, as she doesn't wish to leave parents behind [10:05] schbirid: I think you will understand first :) http://9gag.com/gag/ax2Dx9n?sc=geeky [10:06] dont judge me but i dont visit that website [10:06] :) [10:07] i got a 403 [10:07] to norbert79 [10:08] Nvm then :) It was a joke about to dress as Hans from Star Wars for next halloween [10:08] Hans Olo [10:09] i don't get it [10:09] i must be missing something? [10:11] No, not really, let's just move away from this bad joke [10:11] oh. lol okay [10:12] oh i got bought the overpriced Razer Ouroboros for 135 USD on amazon [10:12] my mom paid for it so i was like okay i'll get it. it looks cool [10:13] Ok, that is just indeed crazy [10:13] and it isn't worth that much.. obviously. [10:13] like 40 dollars would be good [10:13] I just had to Google the name [10:13] or idk how much. last time i got a mouse was let's see it's right here a logitech uhh hold on [10:13] what the hell is that at all? Also, I have seen people using such mice and I can't really feel the difference... [10:13] MX510 Logitech Optical mouse [10:14] I use a HP mouse and works fine for me :) [10:14] ya. i think they all work good for the most time [10:15] You know, I would pay maybe this much money for this: http://9gag.com/gag/aXEAv59 [10:15] oh and get this. the mouse came in like a display case looking box thing. it's like jesus damn i would rather save 15 bucks and have it in a regular cardboard box than this stupid thing [10:15] another 403 lol [10:15] goddamn it [10:15] maybe it is a locale thing? [10:16] http://9gag.com/gag/aXEAv59 [10:16] norbert79: :D [10:16] same [10:16] wth [10:16] Works for me [10:16] I don't get this [10:16] forbidden 403 man [10:16] let me open this through my phone using the direcvt link [10:16] let me try on firefox [10:16] i'm trying on chrome [10:17] same. 403 [10:18] your network does that [10:18] Works for me fine on regular net [10:18] what do you mean regular net? what is direcvt? [10:18] direcTV? [10:18] lol jk [10:18] Are you at home or school-net? [10:18] home [10:19] weird... Something is not ok still [10:19] USA [10:19] !!! [10:19] I am using a regular 3G net through my phone for testing, and it opened the link fine [10:19] i'll try on my ... 4G... [10:19] just messin sorry [10:19] No, we have 4G as well, but it's a company phone :) [10:20] also I think 4G is just overrated :) [10:20] oh. i didn't know how good hungarys' was [10:20] Yeah, we have quite nice options [10:20] I have a 100/50 net at home [10:20] it is way better than 3G. when i go over my shitty T-Mobile data cap limit they throttle down to 3g [10:20] could ask for more, but that's fine for me [10:21] shit. the fastest centurylink net i have here is 12Mb/s down 896Kb/s up [10:21] the highest bandwith I am normally using is when I listen to German oldies radio :) [10:21] heh [10:21] ok and when I access my own MC server [10:21] my son does do some peeks though [10:21] ya i hate this data cap shit and slow net blah balhafjdlwajflaew [10:22] origin and Bf3 [10:22] what is mc [10:22] Minecraft [10:22] oh [10:22] I have a stand-alone server with a few players on it, 1.7.5, have a few plugins so i can handle things more, but it's pure survival [10:22] nothing fancy [10:23] oh. i've never played minecraft [10:23] We love to survive, build and discover [10:23] i watched people stream on playstation live on ps4 [10:23] well, you might not be able anymore, if gets sold to Microsoft [10:23] it looks cool [10:23] it's nice [10:23] there are a few projects ongoing though [10:23] to keep the gameplay alive [10:23] the graphics suck though [10:23] jk [10:23] trollololo [10:24] i hate when people say that and i don't even play that [10:24] http://terasology.org/# [10:24] think again ;-) [10:24] can i play the whole game there? [10:24] link worked btw [10:24] It's not Minecraft, just an open-source clone [10:25] but for Minecraft there are few plugins which also allow such a nice graphics [10:25] but it comes close to the original game [10:25] oh. damn. i don't have jre installed on this computer. java is on my imac which i do all my java coding on(netbeans) [10:53] godane, can you edit the tags for the cfh episodes [10:54] They should say Jenn Cutter instead of Jean Cutter [10:54] She would like them to be fixed [11:03] for fuck's sake, what is whispersystems keeping so long. they got 400k$ and still no textsecure for ios [11:07] i imagine they are being watched very closely [11:19] schbirid: are they secure or secure like the blackphone? [11:22] it's moxie marlinspike and friends so i trust them [11:22] might be camouflaged lizard people of course [11:24] oh i think they maybe trustable [11:24] but outside pressures.. [11:26] they design it properly [11:26] that's whats taking so long :) [11:26] https://whispersystems.org/blog/ [12:29] joepie91: Got a copy of the Google leaked password list? I found one, but with no passwords... [12:29] leaked passwords? google? [12:30] there is a site with full dumps in onion land [12:30] checked for my account, luckily not included [12:31] schbirid: Sounds nice, but I am too lazy to install a tor proxy... maybe later today... [12:31] tor browser bundle takes 2 minutes [12:31] and is the suggested way to browse [12:31] office space, office lappy [12:31] and no, I prefer plain tor proxy client [12:31] in CLI [12:32] and then use local port redirect [12:32] norbert79: I don't, and it's almost certainly not a Google leak [12:32] it's probably more secure if you use TBB [12:32] well, the list what i found is just a list of 5 million e-mail addresses [12:32] most dutch password leaks sofar came from a baby department store [12:32] (true story) [12:32] not a surprise though [12:33] mostly small businesses or businesses with no IT touch are mostly the most vulnerable [12:33] norbert79: it's probably just a random compiled login list from a bunch of breaches, filtered by @gmail.com logins [12:33] Probably [12:33] like the last few "Google leaks" [12:34] that's why I was asking if you have a version with passwords included [12:34] nop [12:34] I care very little for password lists :) [12:34] I was just curious :) [12:36] hm, it is not on that site [12:36] (databin) :( [12:36] i hate it when i unlock my pc and type my password into IRC [12:36] midas: where? WHERE? :D [12:36] must have missed that window [12:37] norbert79: thats why when i lock my pc i put my irc client on the status window [12:37] ;) [12:37] :) [12:38] that reminds me for vlock... Long time since I last used a lock for CLI... [12:38] I am way too much used to SSH sessions [12:46] yeah i only got the dump without passwords [13:04] okay. i never went to bed. [13:04] i got to level nine 56/75 percent complete on Destructomatch joepie91 [13:05] arkhive: Ok, link please... [13:05] Had enough.. Now I want to try it :) [13:05] http://cryto.net/destructomatch/ joepie91 dev'd it [13:05] Oh, that [13:05] what is the max level joepie91 [13:05] oldie but goodie :) [13:06] ya. and i've been playing pong on blinkbundle.com [13:06] at the top of the page [13:06] Why not snake on Youtube? :) [13:06] got to 28 lol. [13:06] how do you do that? [13:06] I think you pause a video and press UP on your keyboard [13:06] your navigation keys [13:07] Shift+Up [13:07] nope [13:08] hmm, wait [13:08] worked just moments earlier [13:09] Pause the video by clicking into it [13:09] hold left button for 3 secs down [13:09] i had this on either my windows 98 or ME computer back in the day [13:09] okay hold on [13:10] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUmQBIglaz4 - Here :) [13:11] i'm uising the html5 player maybe that is why [13:11] Probably [13:11] err my firefox doesn't have flash installed. ffs... so much hassle for everything!! [13:11] :) [13:12] jezball was the shit though [13:14] Level 7 [13:15] Score 238130...Damn was long time ago since I played this [13:16] it took me soooo many tries to get to level 9 [13:19] :3 [13:20] arkhive: level 10 is the last level [13:21] one person has beaten level 10, so it is winnable [13:21] :P [13:26] what the actual fuck [13:26] my dev env seems to have imploded [13:27] meld no longer runs, and nodemon just goes completely apeshit whenever a file changes [13:31] http://www.millstone.demon.co.uk/games/jezball/jezball.htm damn. that is a crazy game of jezball [13:33] last link for awhile i somewhat promise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYXNr4DcmKw [13:34] i didn't know Taco Bell Canada made an arcade game. check it out [14:09] do i need to change my pants after playing? [14:16] yes [14:18] ? [14:18] taco bell, insta explosive shit [14:19] oh [14:53] Famicoman: its fixed [15:01] Has anyone heard that cable internet systems are sensitive to temperature? We keep getting outages in the area and they are blaming it on the almost 30C degree temp drop. [15:02] that is 50 degrees in Fahrenheit [15:04] aaaaaaaaa: what is the temperature? [15:05] it got down to 45 but was over 90 a week ago [15:06] but it is supposed to be around 35 over the weekend [15:06] its only 52 now. [15:07] aaaaaaaaa: sorry, what temperature in celsius? [15:07] :p [15:07] actually [15:07] .wa 45 f in c [15:07] convert 45 °F (degrees Fahrenheit) to degrees Celsius;7.222 °C (degrees Celsius);280.37 K (kelvins);504.67 °R (degrees Rankine);5.7778 °Ré (degrees Réaumur);11.292 °Rø (degrees Rømer);7.212 °C above triple point temperature of water (273.2 K);7.222 °C above melting point of water ice (at standard pressure) (0 °C);7.22 °C above ice point of water (273.15 K);temperature;[temperat [15:07] yeah, they're full of shit [15:08] 7 celsius is a fine operating temperature for network equipment [15:08] not ideal, but certainly not breakage-causing [15:08] the only thing I can see causing issues is material expansion/shrinking due to temperature difference [15:09] and if these kind of temperature differences are normal for the environment, that shouldn't be an issue [15:09] well, in the winter we get -5C routinely [15:09] aaaaaaaaa: -5 happens at times in NL, the internet works just fine [15:09] if it's a regular thing, then it should *especially* not cause issues [15:10] so the temperature thing is most likely bullshit [15:10] Right, my bs detector went off too so I thought someone might know on -bs [15:10] :) [15:10] aaaaaaaaa: you are in the US? [15:10] Yep, I live in Freedom Land. [15:10] then definitely bullshit [15:11] Better contact Penn & Teller aaaaaaaaa [15:11] US ISPs appear to love making shit up about outages and poor service [15:11] demonstrably false shit [15:11] not sure if it's a culture thing, but I am continuously amazed by the crap that is US internet [15:11] not just the speeds [15:11] but the overall reliability, customer service, ISP attitude, etc. [15:11] how about those b/w caps heh? [15:11] they just seem to not give a fuck [15:12] when you are in non-competition with one other company, why would you? [15:13] SketchCow: i'm uploading 15gb of Led Zeppelin bootlegs to your ftp [15:13] thats only january 1969 [15:14] aaaaaaaaa: realistically, NL only has a few ISPs [15:15] nearly everything is owned by KPN by now [15:15] it's similar for other european countries [15:15] it's generally a few big telcos that own all the ISPs [15:15] hell, insider deals *have* happened between NL ISPs [15:15] yet it's still not as shit as US internet [15:15] :P [15:16] (KPN is a privatized ex-government telco, by the way, to put things into perspective) [15:16] we have 5 or something [15:16] Maybe it is because people are used to shitty service here. [15:16] we have... KPN, Tele2, Vodafone, T-Mobile, Ziggo, and a few regional ones I think [15:16] afaik everything else is owned by those [15:16] we used to have UPC but that's merging with Ziggo now [15:16] UPC and Ziggo are the only large cable ISPs [15:17] so we now basically have one cable ISP [15:17] KPN/Tele2/Vodafine/T-Mobile do ADSL and FttH [15:17] but FttH is largely on networks owned by, you guessed it, KPN [15:17] same for ADSL [15:17] the only alternative ADSL network with any reasonable amount of coverage is owned by Tele2 [15:17] (used to be independent) [15:17] (the FttH networks also used to be independent) [15:17] kpn, ziggo/upc (thats 1 provider now, or will be) unet, zeelandnet and another cable provider [15:18] midas: zeelandnet isn't national [15:18] even tele2 uses the kpn infrastructure [15:18] and, unet? [15:18] no [15:18] tele2 has their own infra [15:18] former bbned [15:18] yes, they rent KPN lines, but no, that's not what they use exclusively [15:18] they use their own network where possible [15:18] they only use KPN lines to cover the bits of NL that their network doesn't cover [15:18] unet is the largest fiber provider in the netherlands after kpn/regge [15:18] (T-Mobile also uses Tele2's network where possible) [15:18] mostly corperate [15:18] (err, Online, or w/e they're called now) [15:19] midas: right, I was just refering to residential [15:19] yeah thats why i didnt include tmobile-randomname [15:19] ah ok [15:19] ...? [15:19] tmobile does residential [15:19] (quite well too, I might add) [15:19] t-mobile doesnt have their own network [15:19] or well, I have no idea if it's still part of tmobile [15:19] afaik [15:19] online changes name every few months it seems [15:19] midas: didn't say they did [15:19] like vodafone [15:20] i just said that it was an independent ISP [15:20] I * [15:20] true [15:20] T-Mobile/Online over former BBNed (so, Tele2) is beautifully stabale [15:20] stable * [15:20] and KPN-free [15:20] and caiway [15:20] caiway is still around? wasn't that absorbed into something else? [15:21] but thats like zeelandnet :+ [15:21] nope they are still going [15:21] aha [15:21] Op 2 mei 2011 werd bekend dat KPN voornemens is om CAIW over te nemen. Op 10 april 2012 zag KPN echter af van de overname omdat deze op te veel bezwaren stuitte van de Nederlandse Mededingingsautoriteit.[1] [15:21] that used to be concepts ICT [15:21] aye [15:21] KPN *tried* to acquire them and was told no [15:21] lol [15:22] like they dont have a monopoly position right now [15:22] isn't concepts part of KPN now [15:22] or something [15:22] no idea [15:22] caiway != concepts != zeelandnet [15:22] afaik [15:22] I recall somebody complaining about concepts being absorbed into something else [15:22] it was KPN I think [15:22] but not sure [15:23] oh yeah [15:23] concepts was bought by kpn [15:23] heh [15:23] like basically every other ISP [15:23] caiway is still just caiwai [15:23] :P [15:23] caiway and zeelandnet are the same kind of company, very small isps [15:24] zeelandnet being part of delta the energy company in zeeland [15:24] so... ziggo, kpn, tele2 (<- own network), t-mobile, vodafone (<- third party network), zeelandnet, caiway (<- small regional ISPs) [15:24] basically [15:24] yeah [15:24] that's a pretty depressing ISP landscape compared to 5 years ago... [15:25] :| [15:25] cc aaaaaaaaa [15:25] oh and kabeltex! [15:26] midas: to be fair, though, xs4all still operates more or less independently [15:26] only on texel :P [15:26] despite being part of KPN [15:26] and lol [15:26] and that is the whole country? [15:26] how do they even stay afloat [15:26] (ba dum tish) [15:26] aaaaaaaaa: that's basically all [15:26] durr :+ [15:26] 'real ISPs' [15:26] in NL [15:26] (hi enter key) [15:27] aaaaaaaaa: we have another ~50 ISPs that just use part of someones connections [15:27] oh joepie91 [15:27] tweak [15:27] I think there's a few town-and-city-specific ISPs but they all use third party networks and aren't very noteworthy [15:27] midas: hmm.. [15:27] own network and/or tele2 [15:27] there was something about tweak [15:27] almere is mostly tweak fiber with own pops etc [15:27] (still, almere so it's horrible) [15:27] oh, no [15:27] they really ARE independent [15:27] lol [15:28] I wouldn't want to live there if I got 10gbps for 50 bucks [15:28] i'd live there [15:28] if they gave me 5 meters of rope [15:28] haha [15:28] also, https://tweakers.net/nieuws/95417/kleine-provider-tweak-levert-gigabit-verbindingen-in-almere-en-enschede.html [15:28] yeah, and its horrible joepie91 [15:28] ugh, largely KPN network [15:28] yeah, that's one of those local ISPs [15:29] the forums are full of horrible connections using sparkl or somehing [15:29] aaaaaaaaa: so yeah, that's basically it [15:29] tv signal dropping out, internet dead for 3 weeks [15:29] aaaaaaaaa: basically, in the past 10 years, KPN has absorbed like 10-15 different ISPs? [15:29] directly or indirectly [15:29] atleast [15:29] first a shitload of cheap ISPs merged into Telfort [15:29] then Telfort was scooped up by KPN along with a bunch of other ISPs [15:30] it's a bit worrying [15:30] then they bought reggefiber, the company that lays most of the residential fibers [15:30] sigh [15:30] "nah, that's not a monopoly" [15:30] just using those companies you listed, my state (which is 3x the size) has the same amount of wired isps, if you count coops and the smaller ones (but not resellers) [15:30] * joepie91 facedesks [15:30] aaaaaaaaa: size in what sense? [15:30] area or population? [15:30] area [15:31] I'll check pop [15:31] yeah, don't look at that :P) [15:31] :) * [15:31] .wa population of the netherlands [15:31] Netherlands->population;16.8 million people (world rank: 65th) (2014 estimate);~~ 0.72 × current population of Australia ( 23.214 million people );~~ 0.86 × current population of New York State ( 19.4652 million people );~~ 1.3 × current population of Illinois ( 12.8693 million people ) [15:31] aaaaaaaaa: just to give you some perspective, we have 17 million people in this small country [15:32] 3x the size 1/5th the pop for a density of 21/km [15:32] aaaaaaaaa: where do you live? [15:32] in some places you could dig away all the dirt and walk on the cables as ground [15:32] state-wise [15:32] Iowa [15:32] .wa population of iowa vs population of the netherlands [15:32] Iowa->population -> Netherlands->population;Iowa->3.09 million people (2013), Netherlands->16.8 million people (world rank: 65th) (2014 estimate) [15:32] heh [15:33] lol [15:33] .wa population of iowa / population of the netherlands [15:33] Iowa->population\/Netherlands->population;0.184 (18.4%) (2013 estimates) [15:33] yeah, ouch [15:33] that's not many people [15:33] also, aaaaaaaaa, we don't really have coops as such [15:33] AND we have the sea trying to drown us all [15:34] some areas have less than one family per square mile. [15:34] hahaha [15:34] midas: occasionally almost succeeding [15:34] true story [15:34] .wa population of the Netherlands per square mile [15:34] Netherlands->population -> per square mile;16.8 million people -> 1 per square mile (per mile squared) (2014 estimate) [15:34] * joepie91 raises eyebrow [15:34] that cant be right [15:34] .wa area of the netherlands in square miles [15:34] convert Netherlands->total area to square miles;16040 mi^2 (square miles);4.472×10^11 ft^2 (square feet);41540 km^2 (square kilometers);4.154×10^10 m^2 (square meters);~~ ( 0.003 ~~ 1\/337 ) × total area of arable land on Earth (~~ 1.4×10^13 m^2 );~~ 0.6 × Lake Victoria area ( 68870 km^2 );~~ 2 × total area of Wales (~~ 8023 mi^2 );Radius r of a circle from A = pir^2:, ->71 miles, ->115 km (kilometers);R [15:34] ...? [15:35] botpie91: stop confusing the internet! [15:35] that is off by a factor of 1000 isn't it [15:35] .wa area of the netherlands in square miles / population of the netherlands [15:35] seems like it [15:35] (convert Netherlands->total area to square miles)\/Netherlands->population;9.54×10^-4 square miles per person (2014 estimate);0.6108 acres per person;26610 square feet per person;0.2472 hectares per person [15:35] .... that is not what I asked, wolfram [15:35] try km [15:35] .wa people per square mile in the Netherlands [15:35] imperial system is outdated and silly (sorry americans) [15:35] Netherlands->population density;1284 people per square mile (world rank: 23rd) (2010 estimate);2.01 people per acre;496 people per square kilometer;4.96×10^-4 people per square meter;Area per person:, ->21700 square feet per person [15:35] theeeere we go [15:35] that looks better [15:36] .wa people per square mile in Iowa [15:36] Iowa->population density;54.92 people per square mile;population->3.09 million people, population growth->+0.45% per year (2010-12), population density->54.92 people\/mi^2, annual deaths->27349 people\/yr, annual births->38091 people\/yr, (2013);0.08581 people per acre;21.2 people per square kilometer;2.12×10^-5 people per square meter;Area per person:, ->0.018 square miles per person, ->507633 square feet per person [15:36] that kinda makes sense [15:36] hehehe [15:36] .wa people per square mile in abu dhabi [15:36] Abu Dhabi->population density;(data not available) [15:36] hahaha [15:36] noice. [15:36] nope.avi [15:37] .wa gdp of abu dhabi [15:37] Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss. [15:37] * joepie91 sighs [15:37] ... [15:37] heh [15:37] this botpie is slick, when it works. [15:37] .wa people per square mile in United Arab Emirates [15:37] United Arab Emirates->population density;256 people per square mile (world rank: 110th) (2010 estimate);0.401 people per acre;99 people per square kilometer;9.9×10^-5 people per square meter;Area per person:, ->109000 square feet per person [15:38] holy crap [15:38] .wa popes per square mile in vatican city [15:38] hah [15:38] Error fetching URI. [15:38] aaaaaaaaa: it's a modified phenny :) [15:38] I wrote a few custom modules [15:38] such as [15:38] time to roll! [15:38] .license wtfpl [15:38] Sorry, could not find any licenses for that search term. [15:38] ... [15:38] .license gpl [15:38] Sorry, could not find any licenses for that search term. [15:38] right, it broke [15:38] culater [15:38] tldrlegal probably updated their site [15:39] .bitcoin [15:39] 1 BTC = $474.99, 1 BTC = €367.27 [15:39] lol botpie at it's best ;) [15:39] there, that works :P [15:39] * joepie91 adds to todo list [15:39] bitcoin is useless! [15:39] xmc: objectively false [15:39] not if you have 20 of them [15:39] nananannana bitcoin! [15:40] .bitcoin [15:40] 1 BTC = $474.95, 1 BTC = €367.24 [15:40] * joepie91 adds card to his board [15:40] k [15:40] I kinda forgot what other modules I made for it... [15:41] .license [15:41] Sorry, could not find any licenses for that search term. [15:41] awesome joepie91!!! [15:41] oh right, there's a bunch of network/IP/etc. info stuff functions [15:41] but they're a bit noisy... [15:42] .t [15:42] Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:42:02 GMT [15:42] one particularly practical thing [15:42] botpie91: tell aaaaaaaaa that herp derp [15:42] joepie91: I'll pass that on when aaaaaaaaa is around. [15:45] now what? [15:45] aaaaaaaaa: 15:42Z tell aaaaaaaaa that herp derp [15:46] hehe [15:46] Ah [15:48] I'll keep that one in mind in the future [15:49] does it wait for them to say something or does it also fire off on joins? [15:50] aaaaaaaaa: only when somebody says something [15:50] to avoid misdelivering to somebody with a dropped connection [15:50] :P [15:50] makes sense [15:54] i'm grabbing gamecca magazine [16:59] https://www.doctape.com/ is going down November 25 [17:00] "We’d like to thank all of our users and early adopters for their trust" [17:00] "along this amazing journey!" [17:04] sep332: I should set up a google alert for "journey -travel" [17:22] JOURNEY JOURNEY JOURNEY [17:22] idgi: why do so many startups insist on using that phrase when they shit the bed with the lights on? [17:25] Probably just another part of MBA speak; like rightsizing or synergy [17:26] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyV_UG60dD4 [17:34] RedType: travelling business class phenomenon [17:34] (class as in teaching) [17:35] as if there's some travelling teacher that goes everywhere to teach everybody the same lingo and associated bullshit [17:42] I just saw this http://pastebin.com/EUzDgPSw [17:43] wow, what made Dec-31-99 flip that bad? O.o [17:46] He kept asking more and more questions after he was told that was enough. [17:46] and then he got banned. [17:46] I'm sure everyone can tell a story of the first time that JS said something they didn't like to them. But everyone handles it differently. [17:46] At the tipping point, every time he ask/said something stupid he lost a channel. [17:46] I think it's kind of a rite of passage, in some ways. :) [17:47] Just stay awhile and listen. That is what I did. [17:52] people who don't understand efnet are so cute [17:53] fuck efnet [17:53] i dont know how often i have been k lined because someone else abused my dynamic ip earlier [17:54] you're lucky that you can irc off a dynamic ip [17:54] efnet is the land of people flooding you off for pretty much zero reason [17:55] arkiver: where did you find that? [17:55] hahaha, this guy [17:56] midas: he joined and posted it yesterday [17:56] pft: there is a reason I don't venture outside AT channels [17:56] i started having to use a colo'd machine many years ago if we wanted to maintain ops on some of the more common channels i'm on [17:56] hahahaha oh my, i think he had a little mental breakdown [17:56] it was great [17:57] there was also this: https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/509846386494681088 [17:57] why do people take irc or even life so serious [17:58] becuase they are 16-year old boys? [17:58] his post reminded me of the templeos guy [18:13] maybe I shouldn't ask this, but anyone has the logs of when he freaked out? [18:13] it's just I want to know how it went :/ [18:13] was across multiple channels, will see what i can get though [18:16] hmmm wow [18:17] arkiver, here's some of it (don't know who posted it) http://pastebin.com/6uCR6hVU [18:18] oh, I guess Dec-31-99 did. [18:18] http://paste.archivingyoursh.it/raw/rifigapete [18:19] the huge block is just form -bs, gets better near the end. then there's his spam in #archiveteam [18:21] i got removed from a quake clan for chatting too much once [18:21] that was odd [18:22] Anyway, i proved myself in archiveteam by grabbing most of ign [18:24] i proved myself by uploading tons of stuff to the point of needing a inbox [18:25] ahah i remember when we wondered about you godane, ya turned out useful :D [18:27] i dont feel i need to prove myself :) that sounds like work :P [18:27] :D [18:29] speaking of proving oneself, i havent run a warrior since college and im about to plunk down a wad of cash on VPSes [18:29] any VPS provider recommendations? i'm just going to use weLoveServers [18:30] i use do instances [18:30] digitalocean [18:30] ill give u free credit if ur buying more [18:32] "handcrafted by our developers" rofl [18:32] http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2g4jwa/im_starting_to_think_that_this_is_the_strategy_of/ [18:32] see where i work, we only smash our faces on the keyboard to generate code [18:32] RedType: recommendations for archiving...? [18:33] or in general? [18:33] archiving [18:33] im researching DO right now [18:33] DO is a bit meh [18:33] RedType: ramnode is nice, VPS-forge is definitely good also [18:33] especially with their new unmetered gigabit.. :D [18:34] ramhost is nice, but not *that* cheap [18:34] hmm [18:34] let me check what backupsy's TOS are [18:34] use vpsdime over backupsy, i'd say [18:34] same setup, lower prices [18:34] j/c: is there a peak bandwidth amount that any given warrior uses? [18:34] that said, they throttle IO, not sure how much [18:35] US Locations are allowed to run software/OS that assists backing up, owncloud, private VPN/Proxy, development, monitoring and other light CPU and IO intensive applications except Torrents, TOR and Game Servers. NL Location is allowed to run anything except Torrents, TOR, Game Servers. [18:35] Kazzy: doesn't vpsdime have less disk space [18:35] or did that change [18:35] vpsdime have storage plans now [18:35] aha, did not know that [18:35] 500gb $7/mo [18:35] so weloveservers doesnt care as long as it's not illegal [18:36] oh wait i remember that happening and didnt care about it. i've decided to not care now too. [18:38] but yeah, can recommend vpsdime/backupsy/that entire chain [18:38] * joepie91 thinks [18:39] next question: how much RAM should i allocate to a modern warrior? [18:39] ovh soyoustart [18:39] i used to run it with 1GB [18:40] but can i get away with half a gig? i should hope so.. [18:40] oh yes, OVH is fine too [18:40] thats what im using [18:40] RedType: you can always just create swap on a dedi or KVM [18:40] :P [18:40] 2 atom boxes and a couple of backup boxes from soyoustart works fine :) [18:41] joepie91: well im going to run it in a virtual box vm as seems to be the custom and obv im going to allocate swap [18:41] but i like avoiding swap if possible [18:41] i'd do with running pipelines RedType [18:41] i have ZERO aws experience [18:41] you can run anything between 1 and 12 projects at once [18:42] you dont need aws [18:42] oh in the warrior [18:42] i run them on my atom boxes, they can run atleast 4 pipelines without any isues [18:42] yeah, don't run virtualbox on a VPS [18:42] you'll regret it [18:42] :P [18:42] the warrior is just a skin around the pipeline RedType [18:42] ive never tried. thanks for the heads up [18:42] yeah [18:43] looks im building a big beefy warrior instead of running 3 or 4 which was my original intention [18:43] damn, Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 2.2GHz 2x 2TB 8GB 1Gbps 29 € [18:43] http://oneprovider.com/dedicated-servers/nottingham-united-kingdom [18:43] oneprovider sucks [18:43] yes but for that price they rock [18:43] 4TB! [18:44] ehhhhh [18:45] they removed the backup servers from soyoustart :< [18:45] schbirid: you know that oneprovider just resells, right [18:45] joepie91: i am happy with the server i got 9 months ago [18:45] super duper happy [18:45] (for the price) [18:45] last time i used oneprovider i got online.net and leaseweb.nl servers [18:45] schbirid: okay, so, two things [18:45] 1. when you need support, you have a problem [18:45] 2. they resell - that means they can almost certainly be gotten cheaper at the source than at the reseller [18:46] because oneprovider are not 'authorized resellers' and do not get special deals [18:46] you probably get wilfried [18:46] they just pick up promos where they can [18:46] and when somebody cancels, reallocate the server to somebody else [18:46] all the while being a customer support proxy to the actual host with a particularly unfavourable signal-to-noise ratio [18:46] 1. support is dumb and evil but they managed to resolve my issues after all [18:46] 2. nopie? [18:47] ? [18:47] they forced me to reinstall my server after a simple zmap [18:47] oh sweet i can get it preconfigured with WINDOWS SERVER [18:47] sidenote: they are known for mislabelling locations of servers [18:48] that is; they will sell you a server that is 'located in X' but is actually just an OVH box with geolocated IP [18:48] my server is cheaper than at the source [18:49] schbirid: where is it physically hosted? [18:49] okay so, i'm going to trial it on a box at home but what im taking away from all this is to get a dedi, set up a super beefy warrior, figure out a good pipeline setup for it, allocate a lot of disk space to it and let it go [18:49] and I mean datacenter [18:49] RedType: lots of small servers will work better than one large server, usually [18:49] can't say i really care [18:49] due to IP throttling [18:49] schbirid: you don't know where it is located? [18:49] ffff. okay. [18:50] it does what i want it to do, couldn't care less where it sits :) [18:50] traceroute it schbirid [18:50] schbirid: if you don't know where it is, how can you know that it's cheaper than at the source? [18:50] oh, it's online.net. i know that [18:50] supposed to be paris [18:51] joepie91: that was what i was originally going to do because of afformentioned throttling. i guess ill fall back and do some more VPS evaluation [18:51] AS12876 [18:51] schbirid: and what do you pay for it? [18:51] for what specs? [18:52] joepie91: http://oneprovider.com/dedicated-servers/paris-france the 20€ one [18:52] -540 actually [18:53] i'd might colocate my own box in a couple of months tho [18:53] cheaper in the end [18:54] SketchCow: maybe the 8" internal floppy drive you have been looking for: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mitsubishi-M2896-63-02U-8-Internal-Floppy-Drive-N-O-S-8-Floppy-Drive-NEW-/181474447240?pt=US_Floppy_Zip_Jaz_Drives&hash=item2a40b84f88 [18:54] even links to a bitsavers document: https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_mitsubishianceManual_5094595 [18:57] jesus christ [18:57] online.net changes their server lineup more often than I change my underwear [18:58] :) [18:58] i did check back then [18:58] schbirid: looking at their recent prices (and I've gotten tired of spitting through the wayback machine, tbh) they are likely charging you 3-5 euro more than it would've cost straight from online.net at the time that server was sold [18:58] huh [18:58] as I said, they recycle servers [18:58] oh well, i am happy [18:58] they often get them when they're cheaper [18:58] stock up [18:58] be happy with me! [18:58] resell based on that price [18:58] their entire business models is living off promos, basically [18:58] model * [19:02] * joepie91 vaguely recalls them selling VMs as dedicated servers at some point... [19:02] SketchCow: another 8 inch floppy drive: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-HEATH-ZENITH-H-Z-207-8-inch-FLOPPY-DRIVE-UNTESTED-MISSING-1-FLOPPY-DRV-/131292520214?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item1e91a4df16 [19:04] http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-inch-floppy-disk-drive-/400337148964?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d35f41c24 [19:06] Capitol BBS S100 Computer: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Capitol-BBS-S100-Computer-Vintage-Survivor-HISTORIC-UNIQUE-RARE-FIND/321506099094/ [19:11] what's the verdict on warriors and ipv6 [19:11] should i configure it? or not care? [19:13] so far most sites we grabbed didnt support ipv6 [19:13] kinda stupid tho that they dont support ipv6 [19:38] midas: honestly i know very little about ipv6 [19:38] ask me what loopback is, localhost, etc [19:38] i dunno lol! [19:46] ::1 [19:46] (I've just exhausted my IPv6 knowledge) [19:49] what drives me nuts is you have to remember to put [] around the address in order to not mistake it with a port reference. Colons were a dumb idea because they were already used for something network related. [19:57] they should have used emoji [19:58] 192[happy face]168[happy face]1[smiling poo]0[train station]24 [20:07] somehow i feel this is AT related http://vimeo.com/65295548 [20:09] .t [20:09] Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:09:14 GMT [20:09] ... [20:09] .title [20:09] joepie91: FACTORY on Vimeo [20:09] well that was not helpful [20:13] i blame yipdw for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RcBdNZKYn4 and pressing replay for the last 30 minutes [20:13] midas, http://listenonrepeat.com/watch/?v=9RcBdNZKYn4#Little_Boots_-_Confusion [20:13] :p [20:14] omg [20:14] i dont like you anymore :P [20:14] <3 [20:18] Sadly this is EU only but the US might follow: http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2014-09/cp140124en.pdf [20:18] now I am going to bed. I've been up for 30 hours. since 8am Mountain Time til now (2:20pm) [20:19] running on fumes i think the saying is [20:20] godane: i keep an eye on craigslist frequently looking for anything floppy, laserdisc,vintage/old computer stuff, CEDs, 8 tracks, so on. [20:20] i still wish i would've been able to get the 8inch floppy computer the guy was giving away.. shit what was it called. [20:20] hold on [20:24] there. found it in an archived email. it was the OSI C3 OEM computer with dual 8 inch floppy drives, original software and manuals/literature, all working order. [20:24] but i was too late. :( [20:25] Shit i still need to ship my thousand or 2000 floppies to SketchCow . half 3.5 half 5.25" [20:26] aaaaaaaaa: [20:26] http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2014-09/cp140124en.pd [20:26] accidentally left off the f [20:26] that's one of the weirdest error pages I've seen [20:27] wow, quoted the RFC. That is one way to do it [20:27] i hope swebb got it. He's the only other person i know in AT that also lives in Colorado [20:35] ah man, fuck javascript form "enhancement". github just ate my bug report because i had the guts to click a link [20:36] schbirid: install lazarus [20:36] it's magic ;) [20:36] no opera love :( [20:37] I should note that both Chrome and FF just remember your form input when you navigate away, most of the time... [20:37] as long as you don't close the tab [20:37] If I'm going to post something long, I usually just do it in notepad and copy-paste. [20:38] just like opera, which usually does a better job of it [21:26] joepie91: bla bla bla [21:26] etc [21:27] :D [21:27] weeooooweeeooo [21:28] ersi: :P [21:28] you just lighted a siren on fire, though [21:28] I hope that wasn't an archiveteam siren [21:28] because I don't think we have budget for that kind of stuff [21:29] * ersi lights joepie91 on fire [21:29] * ersi steals joepie91 bitcoins [21:29] * joepie91 runs around in panic [21:29] Excellent [21:30] * ersi makes a quick escape [21:30] :( [21:31] i met a guy recently who bought a keyboard for 80 bitcoins :) [21:31] like a musical instrument [21:31] yeh [21:31] 80 btc is 38 000.00 usd [21:31] bam [21:48] so the first 10 days of 2007-09 for funny or die collection is almost uploaded fully [23:07] i'm getting bbs software from aol [23:28] found an interesting torrent [23:28] https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/5641568/IEEEXPLORE_Most_Downloaded_papers_from_IEEE_journals_[MYRIAD]