[01:17] https://imgur.com/a/RYN2Y [01:27] http://themade.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Habitat_Tech_Transfer_FULL.pdf [02:26] SketchCow: https://archive.org/details/pdfy-sP9i25Qoo5rK9jNw [02:26] manual that somebody uploaded for a BBC Model B machine [02:26] er [02:26] game * [02:27] doesn't seem to be anywhere else on the archive yet, and perhaps there's a more appropriate collection to file that under [04:11] Flung it elsewhere [04:11] looks like a fine 'elsewhere' to me :) [04:35] http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2468652,00.asp talks about Facebook for rich people. [04:38] $9000 to join. Should have been a dollar more. [05:37] well I guess I'm off to advertise my yacht on Jamesedition [05:38] better go tell all my fellow worthy people on netropolitan [06:43] k, wtf [06:43] I just successfully wrote a custom router in angularjs [06:43] without encountering any roadblocks [06:43] this is new to me [06:58] coincidentally today I wrote a bunch of raycasting code in box2d and it worked the first time [06:58] which is bizarro, usually I crash shit [06:58] this probably means that I'm going to run into some fundamental design problem [07:00] yipdw: glitch in the matrix [07:00] it happens when they change something [07:01] DÃ©jÃ vu [07:02] what happened?! [07:02] yipdw: if it was easier than expected, you overlooked something [07:02] lol [07:02] joepie91: yeah, proper design [07:02] but it's a prototype so who cares [07:02] heh [07:02] :P [07:02] it's a sad state of affairs [07:02] when code working correctly at once makes you scratch your head and go "hmm, this can't be right..." [07:03] it's a good argument for people to not get into tech [07:03] "you will spend the rest of your life doubting yourself" [07:03] hehehe [07:04] also, I wonder if newegg sells just drive enclosures [07:04] yipdw: DX does [07:04] DX? [07:04] dx.com [07:04] oh [07:04] buyincoins.com does, also [07:04] (and they're usually faster) [07:04] yey laggy tethering [07:04] yipdw: Yes, newegg does [07:04] neat, I'll poke around for something I can shove 6 drives into [07:04] oh, not 6 drive enclosures I think [07:05] well [07:05] DX maybe [07:05] oh, yeah [07:05] buyincoins, probably not [07:05] I meant something that I can throw a bunch of 3.5" hard drives into [07:05] aside: when ordering from DX, expect shipping to take anywhere from 3 weeks to 3 months [07:05] a big-ass case is a possibility, but I was looking for a way to avoid that [07:05] whoa [07:05] 3 weeks is the "normal" duration [07:05] but it occasionally takes a while longer [07:05] comes from HK and all that [07:06] the first smartphone I ordered from DX actually got lost in transit [07:06] eventually even DX gave up trying to figure out where the damn thing was [07:06] (despite the tracking number) [07:06] and they just refunded me [07:06] lol [07:13] man, RAM prices are crazy [07:13] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148646 <-- around four-five years ago, I spent three times that for 12GB [07:13] also ECC [08:13] yipdw: upgrade at work, per cluster we upgraded each machine from 128GB ram to 512GB, total costs? about 2 new clusters. If we did it when the prices were low? not even half a cluster [08:13] per esx cluster we run 24 machines [08:17] yey i'm backonline [08:35] great [08:35] another fucking "piracy is the same as theft" moron on reddit [08:36] YOU WOULD'T DOWNLOAD A CAR [08:37] midas: https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/2gmu07/database_support_episode_4_shell_games/cklkti3?context=3 [08:38] why do people have such a hard time understanding that a requirement for something to be theft is that an item is taken away from its owner [08:38] and that piracy does not fit that basic requirement [08:40] "Certainly it's theft. Morally and legally, one way or another." [08:40] oh wait [08:40] you responded to it [08:40] yes, yes I did. [08:48] piracy is theft of the money that the owner would have earned if you had bought a real copy which obviously you would have done if no pirate copies were available, because copyrighted media is always universally excellent and everyone wants it and agrees it has value [08:48] - and all that bullshit [08:49] can't steal something that isn't owned yet [08:49] end of topic [08:49] lol [08:50] but.. but... [08:50] piracy hurts /the movies you love/ [08:50] [citation needed] [08:50] you do love movies, don't you? you're not a communist? :) [08:51] all movies are excellent - fact [08:51] blargh blargh hurts the artists yadda yadda believe us we're lobbyists derp derp derp [08:51] not one single movie is a gigantic waste of space and an insult to its audience [08:51] why, this is *art* [08:51] art must be respected [08:51] and paid for. [08:51] you /love/ art, don't you? [08:51] :) [08:51] imagine a world where art would be freely available to anybody, that would be /horrible/ [08:52] yes, how would Bruce Willis get paid? :) [08:53] actually I suspect he's doing ok. [08:53] the original point of copyright was to stop someone with alot money from stealing your idea [08:53] no, no it wasn't [08:53] not by a long stretch [08:53] history of copyright is twofold [08:53] one arm finds its roots in government censorship [08:53] the other has to do with encouraging development of arts and technology by giving a financial advantage in the form of a temporary monopoly [08:54] followed by ending up in the public domain [08:54] the latter strategy has more or less been shown to have failed [08:54] there is no evidence that the incentive does indeed lead to increased development of arts and technology [08:54] and quite a bit of evidence to the contrary [08:54] tl;dr experiment failed [08:55] sorry, should've said "history of intellectual property" there [08:55] I wonder if there's a search engine that only returns CC-licenced results [08:55] not "history of copyright" [08:55] it goes further than just copyright [08:56] yes, there is [08:56] well [08:56] kinda [08:56] http://search.creativecommons.org/ [08:56] anyway, in other words: [08:56] intellectual property was NOT meant to do any of the following: [08:56] * guarantee income [08:57] * provide control over what can be done with a work to the author (though there are separate moral rights in some jurisdictions) [08:57] (the latter was indirectly provided, but only as a means to an end; the goal was never to provide that kind of control in itself) [08:57] sadly almost nobody knows what IP was *actually* meant for [08:58] so most people just end up rehashing whatever the RIAA/MPAA/etc feed them [08:59] STEAL A DOWNLOAD [10:22] Steal your discussions [14:02] if anyone is interested in working on a python client for a weird legacy protocol (AOL), please speak up :D [14:05] oh hell no :p [14:06] (chfoo has already started) [14:07] we want to make a scraper so we can sorta do like what wget-warc does [14:07] though for AOL, warc wouldn't work since it's not even HTTP [14:07] propiatary protocols, go 1996! [17:08] balrog: afaik WARC also works for non-HTTP? [17:24] joepie91: would it work for a totally weird binary protocol? [17:24] warc works for anything that's got a request/response shape [17:26] even for stuff that doesn't have a req/res shape [17:26] it just lets you define arbitrary opaque records with record headers and 'links' to other records [17:26] in HTTP, that is the link between req/rep but also for example a DNS lookup [17:26] but I'm sure it can be made into something sensible for weird binary protocols as well [17:27] it just requires some manual fiddling [17:30] hm, ok [17:31] hmm it should work then [17:31] but we'd need new tools and viewers :p [17:45] is there anybody here who I could borrow 40 euro from on paypal for a day or two? apparently fucking OVH doesn't take iDeal for KS servers anymore, and my money is currently in the wrong place (that is, on my bank acc instead of on paypal) [17:45] and it takes ~2 days to get it from A to B... [17:46] :| [17:49] wtf paypal has gamificated their profile data harvesting [17:49] apparently i am at 60% done [17:49] fuck them [17:49] lol? [17:49] joepie91: pm me your address [17:50] i wonder how much those cunts will take for themselves :) [17:50] yeah, the bill is 36 euro, I've guesstimated 40 euro for that reason [17:50] lol [17:51] LOL [17:54] I wish PayPal operated more like Bitonic [17:54] daily processing at 12.00-13.00 [17:54] done [17:54] guaranteed to have money in time [18:24] ... okay then [18:24] * joepie91 stares [18:25] schbirid: looks like you're getting it back straightaway [18:25] apparently the iDeal integration that PayPal has been derping about for months has finally been added in the past few days without me realizing it [18:28] just did and wtfed :) [18:28] hahaha [18:29] schbirid: thanks for the help anyway :P [18:31] np [18:31] i love bob's burgers :( [18:32] me too! [18:32] why the sadface? [18:32] i should be working on a thesis [18:32] ohhh [18:41] awesome https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8336025 [18:46] schbirid: ha nice [18:46] I'm going to do that with ninjawedding.org's DNS records [18:47] put a script tag in it and have some fun [18:48] oh shit [18:48] NFSN's dashboard doesn't sanitize it either [18:48] good thing for noscript [18:49] yipdw: NFSN? [18:49] oh crap [18:49] nearlyfreespeech.net [18:50] ah, hm. [18:54] woah nfsn is still around? [18:55] yeah [18:55] good thing too [18:55] oh shit they do cheap dns hosting [18:55] yeah i used to use nfsn [18:58] freedomporn is hosted with them :) [19:00] anti-state porn, hm. [19:00] ...? [19:00] anarchist != anti-state [19:00] i am at work so naturally i am looking around http://www.freedomporn.org/smut/Freedom_Porn [19:01] they have a category for "anti-state porn" [19:01] ah, I thought you were refering to the entire site [19:01] :p [19:01] man, I have to download a 7z? why isn't it just on the page right there? [19:01] :( [19:02] xmc: what are you looking at? [19:02] most are just media files [19:02] ok [19:04] it's possible that the one you're looking at predates the download server :) [19:05] possibly [19:17] i made a video screen capture of that xss in case they fixed it: https://archive.org/details/TxtRecordXss [19:29] :) [19:30] record the others too!