| Time |
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Message |
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00:21
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dashcloud |
those of you who are students (have a valid @edu address) may be interested in this Github student developer tool pack: https://education.github.com/pack |
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00:24
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LD100 |
what does fos mean? |
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00:30
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garyrh |
LD100, FOS stands for Fortress of Solitude. It's SketchCow's staging/dev server |
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00:36
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LD100 |
thx |
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01:31
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joepie91 |
the universe invented a better idiot again |
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01:31
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joepie91 |
https://stormpath.com/ |
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01:32
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joepie91 |
shittiness-as-a-service like never before! |
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01:41
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Rotab |
SHaaS |
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01:43
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yipdw |
you can now use Stormpath on your website powered by Cloudfront and get all the mixed weather metaphors you want |
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01:44
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yipdw |
waiting for some YC company to announce Cloudburst and wonder why people are snickering about orgone |
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01:47
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yipdw |
joepie91: heh https://stormpath.com/product/password_security/ |
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01:47
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yipdw |
it's weird how nonspecific that page is |
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01:50
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joepie91 |
Because our API requires HTTPS and we handle all the data encryption, you donΓ’ΒΒt need to hash, salt, or perform any other cryptography on passwords before sending them to Stormpath. |
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01:50
π
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joepie91 |
hahaha. |
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01:50
π
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joepie91 |
haha. |
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01:50
π
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joepie91 |
ha. |
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01:50
π
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joepie91 |
oh wait, not funny. |
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01:50
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joepie91 |
Finally, we encrypt all password hashes using a private key stored in a separate location. We also rotate keys to ensure they are not reused. The final encrypted hash stored in Stormpath would take thousands of years of current computing power to crack. |
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01:50
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joepie91 |
lol. |
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01:51
π
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* |
joepie91 coughs "bullshit" |
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01:51
π
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joepie91 |
yadda yadda yadda trust us yadda yadda |
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01:52
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yipdw |
i wonder how many people will use stormpath with SSL certificate verification or fingerprint pinning off |
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01:55
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joepie91 |
I can't believe somebody would actually build a business on this premise |
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01:55
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joepie91 |
it's like a bad joke played out in real life |
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01:57
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yipdw |
well, identity management is one of those parts of webapps that keeps being reimplemented, and it's a pain in the ass because the functionality is the same but it nevertheless cuts across the whole app |
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01:57
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yipdw |
on that premise I can see how something like this is attractive |
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01:57
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yipdw |
farming it out with zero visiblity into the way they store credentials though seems either sociopathic or ignorant |
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02:01
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chfoo |
their pypi package isn't signed nor is their git tags |
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02:03
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joepie91 |
"we're srs about securiteh!!1!" |
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02:03
π
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joepie91 |
lol |
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02:04
π
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Rotab |
they base64 the passwords, its safe. |
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02:05
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|
aaaaaaaaa |
Looking through the docs, I could probably figure out how to roll my own with about the same difficulty as plugging theirs in. |
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02:06
π
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joepie91 |
haha |
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02:06
π
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joepie91 |
aaaaaaaaa: hadn't even looked at that, but that sounds a bit depressing |
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02:06
π
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joepie91 |
:P |
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02:12
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aaaaaaaaa |
yeah, on second thought, I don't know if that is more of a comment on me than on them. |
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03:06
π
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SketchCow |
Phone died, got new phone. |
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03:10
π
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BlueMaxim |
What phone? |
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03:25
π
|
SketchCow |
Galaxy S5 |
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03:29
π
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BlueMaxim |
not bad |
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05:11
π
|
godane |
SketchCow: i noticed a search bug in the byte magazine collection |
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05:12
π
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godane |
when i was checking how many magazine was in 1976 search was only giving 11 |
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05:12
π
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godane |
this is issue may not come up in date search: https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1976-06 |
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09:38
π
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schbirid |
anyone able to download and extract this intact? http://daten-hamburg.de/fb/landesgrundbesitz/Landesgrundbesitzverzeichnis.zip |
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09:39
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|
midas |
GET |
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09:41
π
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midas |
nope schbirid |
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09:41
π
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schbirid |
cheers |
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09:41
π
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* |
schbirid complains to government |
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09:41
π
|
midas |
two different machines, windows and linux. both broken |
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09:42
π
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schbirid |
\o/ |
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09:58
π
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schbirid |
it's kind of ridiculous |
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09:59
π
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schbirid |
that site is hosting some of the new "transparency" files of Hamburg |
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09:59
π
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danneh_ |
I'm grabbing it on here, will see once it's finished |
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09:59
π
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schbirid |
hosted with 1&1, no details in WHOIS, and really sucky speeds and big DLs cutting off |
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09:59
π
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schbirid |
danneh_: no need, i already mailed them now. thanks :) |
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09:59
π
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schbirid |
gonna push it all into IA next week |
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09:59
π
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danneh_ |
schbirid: ah awesome, no problem |
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10:03
π
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danneh_ |
that reminds me, I've been meaning to look into something with IA |
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10:04
π
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danneh_ |
basically, whether I can upload an archive and say "keep this private until 20xx, say 2020, and then open it up publicly |
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10:04
π
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schbirid |
can't do that |
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10:04
π
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danneh_ |
fair enough |
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10:04
π
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schbirid |
if you dark an item it is dark forever unless a real admin publishes it manually |
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10:05
π
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schbirid |
best mail them and ask :) |
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10:05
π
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schbirid |
$ ls BauschutzbereichΓΒ§12LuftVG.zip |
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10:05
π
|
schbirid |
any hints what might be wrong with my terminal? |
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10:05
π
|
schbirid |
Bauschutzbereich??12LuftVG.zip |
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10:05
π
|
schbirid |
in bash completion special characters are fine, but in output they are ??s |
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10:05
π
|
midas |
locales fucked up? |
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10:06
π
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schbirid |
err, dash |
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10:06
π
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schbirid |
(in bash too) |
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10:06
π
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schbirid |
hmmm |
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10:06
π
|
midas |
ovh box? |
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10:06
π
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schbirid |
online.net |
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10:06
π
|
midas |
oh |
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10:06
π
|
schbirid |
but some random openvz vm |
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10:06
π
|
midas |
still, frencybox |
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10:06
π
|
midas |
:p |
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10:06
π
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schbirid |
oooui |
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10:07
π
|
midas |
have the same issue |
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10:08
π
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schbirid |
did https://my.fusioned.net/knowledgebase/10094/DebianorUbuntu-Fix-locale-errors.html , fixed it |
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10:08
π
|
schbirid |
thanks |
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10:12
π
|
schbirid |
adobe would love some random data http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/datacapture-de.png |
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10:14
π
|
midas |
heh post all the data \o/ |
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12:56
π
|
ersi |
http://www.wired.com/2014/10/privacy-friendster/ <- ArchiveTeam friendster data used by more researchers~ |
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14:09
π
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Jonimus |
ok this is cool http://tilde.club/~ford/ and of course the main http://tilde.club/ site itself. |
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14:10
π
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Jonimus |
Just gotta bug him to make sure there is an export function but in general this seems like a nice setup |
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14:22
π
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joepie91 |
Jonimus: I like that guy. |
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17:24
π
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schbirid |
hooray, my ugly terrible javascript hacks work |
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17:25
π
|
schbirid |
every javascript loving hipster who talks bad about php should have a toxic sausage shoved down his/her throat |
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18:02
π
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joepie91 |
schbirid: JS is significantly less bad than PHP |
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18:02
π
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joepie91 |
:P |
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18:08
π
|
schbirid |
maaaybe |
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18:11
π
|
xmc |
i'm going to go with 'probably' |
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18:18
π
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joepie91 |
schbirid: no, certainly - the big difference is that JS is "unusual and not obvious at times, but consistent" whereas PHP is "haha good luck predicting what it's going to do" |
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18:18
π
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joepie91 |
JS is far from perfect |
|
18:18
π
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joepie91 |
but at least it is internally consistent :P |
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18:18
π
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joepie91 |
also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4GB_NDU43Q |
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18:18
π
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joepie91 |
.t |
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18:18
π
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botpie91 |
Wed, 08 Oct 2014 18:18:50 GMT |
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18:18
π
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joepie91 |
.title |
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18:18
π
|
botpie91 |
joepie91: Single Point of Failure: The Day Google Forgot To Check Passwords - YouTube |
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18:22
π
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schbirid |
totally mysogynistic! |
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18:23
π
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balrog |
you know that happened with dropbox right? |
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18:23
π
|
xmc |
derpbox |
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18:23
π
|
balrog |
for like under an hour you could get into any account with any input as the password |
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18:24
π
|
xmc |
oooooooops |
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18:24
π
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schbirid |
balrog: mentioned ~2 minutes in ;) |
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18:26
π
|
aaaaaaaaa |
isn't dropbox in python? |
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18:27
π
|
balrog |
the client is |
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18:28
π
|
aaaaaaaaa |
good to know I wasn't completely off |
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18:37
π
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DFJustin |
joepie91: see e.g. http://www.ece.umd.edu/News/news_story.php?id=1788 |
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18:39
π
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joepie91 |
DFJustin: not at all the same context |
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18:39
π
|
joepie91 |
I have no issue believing what is stated in that research |
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18:39
π
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joepie91 |
the problem is that the articxle describes a very different kind of "trolling" |
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18:43
π
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DFJustin |
I don't know how you would objectively study that |
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18:45
π
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DFJustin |
e.g. http://www.haltabuse.org/resources/stats/Cumulative2000-2013.pdf shows a disproportionate amount of women report online harassment |
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18:46
π
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schbirid |
oh dear |
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18:47
π
|
schbirid |
actually... |
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18:47
π
|
schbirid |
do i have to declare '"use strict";' for every <script>...</script> bit i have in a page or is once at the first one enough |
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18:51
π
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joepie91 |
DFJustin: the article explicitly points out notability as a factor |
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18:51
π
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joepie91 |
so a good start for objectively studying that would be looking at somehow notable people |
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18:53
π
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DFJustin |
I guess there's this http://demos.co.uk/press_releases/demosmalecelebritiesreceivemoreabuseontwitterthanwomen |
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18:54
π
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DFJustin |
I'm not sure a-list celebrities are going to be comparable to game developers or whatever though |
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18:56
π
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DFJustin |
I'm not sure what the point of raising the burden of proof is though, I think gamergate has clearly demonstrated that a problem exists |
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18:57
π
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joepie91 |
DFJustin: the point is that making these kind of (implied) statements without actual proper evidence - eg. consistently saying "women this" and "women that" or the counterpart "men this" and "men that" - does nothing to solve the problem, and only further amplifies the divide between genders where none needs to exist |
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18:57
π
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joepie91 |
it turns something from a general behaviour problem into a gender problem, in the public's perspective, when it really isn't |
|
18:57
π
|
joepie91 |
so now instead of "victims vs perpetrators" you have "male victims vs female victims arguing over who is more of a victim" |
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18:57
π
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joepie91 |
it shifts the entire discussion in a direction that's productive for nobody involved |
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18:59
π
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Dr_Shits |
Holy Jesus Titnipples: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221564569633 |
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19:00
π
|
Dr_Shits |
5700+ games. Over 4000 from Nintendo. The majority from the golden age of gaming (1980Γ’ΒΒs Γ’ΒΒ 1990Γ’ΒΒs) Multiple complete sets from Nintendo and Sega. Arguably every single retail (on store shelves) game released from Nintendo between 1985-2000 is represented here. ThatΓ’ΒΒs just scratching the surface with many more from Sega, Atari, Playstation, Xbox and Turbografx. Including multiple systems (some modded), (every single N64 color variant) |
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19:00
π
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Dr_Shits |
and custom hand built and painted shelves. Complete in Box Mario and Zelda sets. I'm not looking to break this up, I'm selling as one amazing lot. IΓ’ΒΒll give a short breakdown of whatΓ’ΒΒs included below from each game system. |
|
19:00
π
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joepie91 |
DFJustin: and yeah, "celebrities" is probably not quite representative for "people on the internet" as a whole - there's quite a bit of prior culture around celebrities pre-internet |
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19:00
π
|
Dr_Shits |
5700+ games. Over 4000 from Nintendo. The majority from the golden age of gaming (1980Γ’ΒΒs Γ’ΒΒ 1990Γ’ΒΒs) Multiple complete sets from Nintendo and Sega. Arguably every single retail (on store shelves) game released from Nintendo between 1985-2000 is represented here. ThatΓ’ΒΒs just scratching the surface with many more from Sega, Atari, Playstation, Xbox and Turbografx. Including multiple systems (some modded), (every single N64 color variant) |
|
19:00
π
|
Dr_Shits |
and custom hand built and painted shelves. Complete in Box Mario and Zelda sets. I'm not looking to break this up, I'm selling as one amazing lot. IΓ’ΒΒll give a short breakdown of whatΓ’ΒΒs included below from each game system. |
|
19:01
π
|
Dr_Shits |
5700+ games. Over 4000 from Nintendo. The majority from the golden age of gaming (1980Γ’ΒΒs Γ’ΒΒ 1990Γ’ΒΒs) Multiple complete sets from Nintendo and Sega. Arguably every single retail (on store shelves) game released from Nintendo between 1985-2000 is represented here. ThatΓ’ΒΒs just scratching the surface with many more from Sega, Atari, Playstation, Xbox and Turbografx. Including multiple systems (some modded), (every single N64 color variant) |
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19:01
π
|
Dr_Shits |
and custom hand built and painted shelves. Complete in Box Mario and Zelda sets. I'm not looking to break this up, I'm selling as one amazing lot. IΓ’ΒΒll give a short breakdown of whatΓ’ΒΒs included below from each game system. |
|
19:01
π
|
Dr_Shits |
5700+ games. Over 4000 from Nintendo. The majority from the golden age of gaming (1980Γ’ΒΒs Γ’ΒΒ 1990Γ’ΒΒs) Multiple complete sets from Nintendo and Sega. Arguably every single retail (on store shelves) game released from Nintendo between 1985-2000 is represented here. ThatΓ’ΒΒs just scratching the surface with many more from Sega, Atari, Playstation, Xbox and Turbografx. Including multiple systems (some modded), (every single N64 color variant) |
|
19:03
π
|
DFJustin |
I guess what I'm saying is when we see accounts of harassment, the first reactions should be "wow that sucks" and "let's not associate with the perpetrators" rather than "you phrased it wrong" or "that's not as important as you say because it also happens to group x" |
|
19:04
π
|
DFJustin |
just as a tone thing |
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19:17
π
|
joepie91 |
DFJustin: except that's exactly the wrong approach to take |
|
19:18
π
|
joepie91 |
it's trying to find a solution before you've identified what the problem is |
|
19:18
π
|
joepie91 |
nobody wins from that in the end |
|
19:18
π
|
joepie91 |
it's similar to the whole "RT this if you agree that X should stop doing Y" |
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19:18
π
|
joepie91 |
on paper it sounds like a great way to "make yourself heard" and "do something about i t" |
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19:19
π
|
joepie91 |
but the reality is that it isn't thought through, and it's going to do more harm than good |
|
19:19
π
|
joepie91 |
you can't solve a problem that you haven't identified sufficiently |
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19:20
π
|
schbirid |
joepie91: BUT DIDNT YOU SEE HOW SHE GOT RAPE THREATS |
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19:20
π
|
schbirid |
i wonder what percentage of "death threats" are things like "please die in a crash" |
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19:20
π
|
schbirid |
which is a horrible thing to say |
|
19:20
π
|
schbirid |
but not a death threat |
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19:20
π
|
schbirid |
oh god why am i participating |
|
19:20
π
|
schbirid |
sorry |
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19:21
π
|
joepie91 |
lol |
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19:22
π
|
joepie91 |
anyway, tl;dr the difference is between feeling like you're doing something against it, and *actually* doing something against it |
|
19:22
π
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balrog |
joepie91: I don't follow your rhetoric |
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19:23
π
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balrog |
joepie91: or denying/minimizing that there is a problem |
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19:23
π
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balrog |
"you phrased it wrong" or "that's not as important as you say because it also happens to group x" is minimizing the problem |
|
19:24
π
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joepie91 |
no, it's not |
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19:24
π
|
joepie91 |
it's putting the problem in the correct perspective |
|
19:25
π
|
joepie91 |
I also never claimed "that's not as important as you say" |
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19:25
π
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balrog |
[15:24:57] <@joepie91> it's putting the problem in the correct perspective |
|
19:25
π
|
balrog |
but is it really? |
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19:25
π
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joepie91 |
by saying "your implied claim that this is a problem exclusive to women is wrong"? yes |
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19:26
π
|
joepie91 |
and "wrong" here means wrong in the sense that it is a completely unsupported claim |
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19:26
π
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joepie91 |
one that, as a bonus, detracts from the *actual* problem |
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19:26
π
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balrog |
"implied claim that this is a problem exclusive to women" Γ’ΒΒΓΒ that's extremely subjective |
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19:26
π
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joepie91 |
which isn't mysoginy |
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19:26
π
|
joepie91 |
but harrassment |
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19:26
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balrog |
that's coloured by your perspective |
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19:26
π
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joepie91 |
balrog: no, it's an interpretation of what was written in the article |
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19:26
π
|
balrog |
misogyny leads to harassment |
|
19:26
π
|
* |
joepie91 sighs |
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19:26
π
|
joepie91 |
balrog: a million other things lead to harrassment too |
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19:27
π
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joepie91 |
and /in my experience/ mysogyny is, on the internet, not usually a driving factor for that |
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19:27
π
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joepie91 |
so given that somebody else thinks it is |
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19:27
π
|
joepie91 |
there's evidently subjective bias going on here |
|
19:27
π
|
joepie91 |
so let's get some actual, reliable, objective data before making claims |
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19:27
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|
joepie91 |
so that the problem is /actually understood/ |
|
19:27
π
|
joepie91 |
instead of just shotgun-firing at anything that seems vaguely relevant |
|
21:38
π
|
joepie91 |
man, wtf, installing a laptop for somebody |
|
21:38
π
|
joepie91 |
damn thing runs so hot that my entire desk is heated up |
|
21:38
π
|
joepie91 |
._. |
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21:38
π
|
xmc |
hot. |
|
21:45
π
|
Jonimus |
damn |
|
21:54
π
|
Kazzy |
anyone in the US able to load http://www.redboxinstant.com/ ? |
|
21:55
π
|
Kazzy |
see if there's anything worth grabbing there, i'm just getting 'international user' splash so I can't see past it |
|
21:56
π
|
xmc |
Go to |
|
21:56
π
|
xmc |
Important Service Shutdown Information |
|
21:56
π
|
xmc |
www.redboxinstant.com/news. |
|
21:56
π
|
xmc |
and that link redirects to http://about.redboxinstant.com/news |
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21:56
π
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Kazzy |
nothing worth grabbing then, really |
|
21:57
π
|
Kazzy |
ah well, only a day too late |
|
22:05
π
|
joepie91 |
the cooling system on this laptop is monumentally stupid |
|
22:05
π
|
joepie91 |
it just turned off entirely |
|
22:05
π
|
joepie91 |
seemed like something had burned out, but the light has just come on |
|
22:06
π
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joepie91 |
so probably overheating protection |
|
22:06
π
|
joepie91 |
but wtf |
|
22:06
π
|
joepie91 |
one tiny-ass hard-to-clean grate at the bottom |
|
22:06
π
|
joepie91 |
that probably clogs up within 5 femtoseconds of turning it on |
|
22:06
π
|
joepie91 |
I want to strangle whoever designed this thing |
|
22:10
π
|
* |
joepie91 screws the damn thing back together |
|
22:15
π
|
aaaaaaaaa |
joepie91: maybe underclock it or turn off the turbo boost (or whatever it is called) until you are done working on it. |
|
22:31
π
|
joepie91 |
aaaaaaaaa: um |
|
22:31
π
|
joepie91 |
it doesn't boot |
|
22:31
π
|
joepie91 |
lol |
|
22:31
π
|
joepie91 |
like |
|
22:31
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joepie91 |
it doesn't even power on |
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joepie91 |
it just flashes the power light at me |
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22:31
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joepie91 |
which is apparently the way Toshiba laptop output error codes |
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joepie91 |
through some weird binary encoding through battery light flashes |
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joepie91 |
but I'm failing to find a list of error codes for this model |
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22:32
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Kazzy |
go learn morse code |
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22:37
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what model is it? |
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22:38
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if it overheated, you may have to let it cool, then unplug it pull the battery hold the power button for 10 seconds and then power it on with the power replaced |
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At least, that is what they recommended when my mother's overheated. |
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yipdw |
if your mother's overheating you should buy her an air conditioner |
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aaaaaaaaa |
AC don't fix menopause |
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aaaaaaaaa |
she could be in a walk in freezer and complain of the heat |
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22:54
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joepie91 |
aaaaaaaaa: yeah, already tried all of that |
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joepie91 |
I even opened it up (partially) to blow out all the dust |
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joepie91 |
etc etc etc |
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joepie91 |
(yes, I use a proper dust blowing ball thing) |
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joepie91 |
the charging indicator isn't lighting up when plugging it in |
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joepie91 |
so I am suspecting either the charger or the charging circuit of being faulty |
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22:55
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joepie91 |
(I've checked the manual) |
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joepie91 |
the model is Toshiba Satellite A300D - 14U btw |
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dashcloud |
joepie91: the laptop before this one I am convinced had a Pentium 4 desktop processor inside it because it was more or less a space heater- it even burned out parts of the laptop |
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joepie91 |
heh |
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22:56
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: the heat coming from this thing was insane as well |
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joepie91 |
it was literally heating the 10cm of area above my desk surface |
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joepie91 |
across my desk |
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joepie91 |
which is BIG |
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joepie91 |
especially given that it's an AMD CPU, this is somewhat alarming to me... |
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dashcloud |
this might help: http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptops/Toshiba-Satellite-A305/laptop-disassembly-process-1.htm |
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joepie91 |
oh great, apparently this exact model of CPU has heat problems |
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22:57
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: thanks, but I'm not going to take it apart |
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22:57
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joepie91 |
not skilled enough to fix circuit faults |
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joepie91 |
:) |
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22:58
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joepie91 |
I can do basic diagnosis and hardware replacements but that's about as far as my hardware knowledge/skills go |
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dashcloud |
thought you might be trying to put new thermal paste or clean out the internal fans |
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joepie91 |
also, that guide doesn't quite cover exactly how many goddamn screws there are in this thing... |
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22:58
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: the problem was with the air intake |
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22:58
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joepie91 |
which is just really badly designed |
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22:59
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joepie91 |
it's pretty much spotlessly clean otherwise on the inside |
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22:59
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joepie91 |
and I've cleaned the air intake |
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22:59
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joepie91 |
as for thermal paste, I don't even have that handy :P |
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ivan` |
the thermal paste applications on laptops can be really terrible |
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23:04
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ivan` |
way too much paste, paste that gets very crusty and non-conductive of heat |
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23:05
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http://www.manualowl.com/m/Toshiba/Satellite-A300/Manual/293116 |
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maybe that will help? |
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23:09
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joepie91 |
aaaaaaaaa: I've already read the Dutch manual for this model |
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23:09
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joepie91 |
that's how I diagnosed the charging issue :) |
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23:10
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Oops; missed that the first time. |
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23:20
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joepie91 |
well to be fair, I didn't mention it |
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23:21
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joepie91 |
:P |
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danneh_ |
if you're able to, multimeter to test the charger maybe? |
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23:30
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danneh_ |
ah righto, silly me |
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kyan |
schbirid: Landesgrundbesitzverzeichnis extracted from zip file: https://ia902604.us.archive.org/28/items/Landesgrundbesitzverzeichnis/Landesgrundbesitzverzeichnis/ |
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joepie91 |
danneh_: don't have a multimeter :/ |
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danneh_ |
joepie91: fair enough, I'm heading to work now but I'll try my best when I get back online, if you're still 'round |
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joepie91 |
danneh_: thanks :) |