#archiveteam-bs 2014-10-26,Sun

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00:05 🔗 SketchCow Arcade is still more important.
02:21 🔗 Ravenloft seems like nobody capped this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0nYZfgtFJk
02:21 🔗 Ravenloft at least not released it
02:21 🔗 Ravenloft on the interwebs
02:21 🔗 Ravenloft the host seems kinda lame, but the subjects are nice
02:31 🔗 joepie91 https://www.npmjs.org/package/4chan-downloader
03:42 🔗 dashcloud be careful when running strings on unknown files: http://lcamtuf.blogspot.com/2014/10/psa-dont-run-strings-on-untrusted-files.html (other tools impacted as well, but an extra emphasis on strings because it's not something I'd ever think of)
08:18 🔗 yipdw ugh, I just saw Matthew Moulton in a list of responses to Brianna Wu
08:18 🔗 yipdw how that guy is still on the internet is odd
08:19 🔗 yipdw for those who don't know, that guy also goes by Onideus Mad Hatter; he latches onto some community or internet current and just keeps riding it out
14:00 🔗 schbirid2 fuck latex
14:02 🔗 antomatic is that a search query? :)
14:04 🔗 joepie91 haha
18:22 🔗 joepie91 .tw https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/526437624484233216
18:22 🔗 botpie91 New blog post: The Great Bitcasa Purge http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2014/10/26/the-great-bitcasa-purge/ (@joepie91)
18:41 🔗 aaaaaaaaa too bad for bitcasa, I was thinking of mentioning them or crashplan for Valhalla
18:43 🔗 joepie91 :/.
18:43 🔗 joepie91 :/ *
18:48 🔗 joepie91 if anybody with a HN account around, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8511856
18:56 🔗 yipdw whoa
18:56 🔗 yipdw jquery-file-upload's bower package version is 9.8.0
18:56 🔗 yipdw that's so unusual to see in web stuff
18:56 🔗 yipdw maybe the author is just really good about semver
18:57 🔗 joepie91 heh
18:57 🔗 joepie91 0.x.x all the things!
18:57 🔗 yipdw it is your get-out-of-backwards-compatibility-jail-free card
18:58 🔗 yipdw although, now that I look at it, none of my app's bower components have 0.x versions so maybe the JS frontend developers are better about this
19:02 🔗 aaaaaaaaa maybe you read the version backwards
19:04 🔗 yipdw if that's the case then I'm somehow on d3 13.4.3
19:05 🔗 yipdw though now I wish I didn't step into the crazyass world of HTTP file uploads
19:05 🔗 yipdw like look at the README on https://github.com/thoughtbot/paperclip
19:05 🔗 yipdw and the docs for https://github.com/blueimp/jQuery-File-Upload
19:05 🔗 yipdw all I want to fucking do is upload CSVs
19:06 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Couldn't you just do that without the fancy jquery?
19:06 🔗 yipdw you can but the plural is the problem
19:06 🔗 yipdw standard file upload methods give you one file, as far as I can tell
19:06 🔗 yipdw client is not happy about that
19:08 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: what, specifically, do you need?
19:08 🔗 aaaaaaaaa multipart form data should support multiple files. I remember doing so back in the early 2000s
19:08 🔗 joepie91 as specifically described as possible
19:08 🔗 yipdw I would like a way to upload multiple CSVs to an endpoint and to save them off for async processing
19:08 🔗 joepie91 okay
19:09 🔗 joepie91 using a file upload dialog that lets you select multiple at once?
19:09 🔗 joepie91 or is one file input per file acceptable?
19:10 🔗 yipdw I think one visually represented input is the goal, whether or not that turns into multiple inputs behind the scenes is irrelevant
19:10 🔗 joepie91 okay
19:10 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: do you need cross-browser support, eg. older IE?
19:10 🔗 yipdw nope
19:10 🔗 joepie91 or is just modern chrome and firefox okay?
19:10 🔗 yipdw it it works on latest Chrome, Firefox, Safari then it's fine
19:10 🔗 joepie91 okay
19:10 🔗 yipdw I would prefer to not break compatibility capriciously th
19:10 🔗 yipdw o
19:10 🔗 joepie91 http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_input_multiple.asp
19:11 🔗 joepie91 IE10+ supported, below that you're screwed on IE
19:11 🔗 yipdw oh that actually works eh
19:11 🔗 yipdw crazy
19:11 🔗 joepie91 it does now :)
19:11 🔗 yipdw huh
19:11 🔗 joepie91 you can also specify a filetype, somehow
19:11 🔗 joepie91 to filter by
19:11 🔗 yipdw I wonder if Mobile Safari supports that
19:11 🔗 * yipdw checks
19:12 🔗 yipdw http://caniuse.com/#feat=input-file-multiple woo
19:12 🔗 yipdw neat, that saves me all sorts of frontend js hell
19:13 🔗 yipdw I guess I won't get upload progress, but meh, it's probably fine to let the browsers catch up to doing that
19:13 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: you can get upload progress in modern browsers I think
19:13 🔗 joepie91 but Chrome already shows you that in its status bar anyway
19:14 🔗 joepie91 :)
19:14 🔗 yipdw I wonder when browsers will just abandon all UI and expose hooks for everyone to write their own UI
19:14 🔗 yipdw we're well on that road anyway
19:16 🔗 yipdw we can call it the OpenGLESification
19:19 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Don't say that, it already drives me nuts that websites can change scroll bars.
19:19 🔗 yipdw if you're Ello you also change the back button
19:19 🔗 yipdw namely, you make it not work
19:19 🔗 joepie91 oh man
19:20 🔗 joepie91 are we back in 2002
19:20 🔗 joepie91 aaaaaaaaa: well, that's kind of reasonable tbh
19:20 🔗 joepie91 scrollbars are often part of your page or 'application' (as in, they live in its screen space)
19:21 🔗 joepie91 so it makes no sense to not be able to bring them in line with the rest, design-wise
19:21 🔗 yipdw can you apply CSS transforms to scrollbars
19:21 🔗 yipdw it'd be awesome to rotate a scrollbar 180 just to fuck with people
19:22 🔗 aaaaaaaaa usability, consistent user experience across apps.
19:22 🔗 yipdw that's so 20th century
19:22 🔗 yipdw get out of here
19:22 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Get off my lawn
19:24 🔗 joepie91 aaaaaaaaa: they're not mutually exclusive...
19:25 🔗 joepie91 (you don't really *want* a truly consistent user experience - to have something that really works well, you have to deviate from the common standard depending on the purpose of the application... only consistency across similar applications/actions makes sense)
19:26 🔗 joepie91 (otherwise you just end up trying to shoehorn things into stuff it wasn't made for; see also, GTK, Qt, etc.)
19:27 🔗 yipdw oh boo transform doesn't work on webkit-scrollbar-thumb
19:27 🔗 joepie91 lol
19:27 🔗 joepie91 if it did, you could just make it move between two off-center points constantly
19:27 🔗 joepie91 :P
19:28 🔗 yipdw yeah
19:28 🔗 joepie91 "wtf? what's my ACTUAL scrollbar position?!"
19:29 🔗 yipdw I guess that'll be fixed in Chrome 38 or something
19:29 🔗 yipdw then we can finally have no clue where we are on a page
19:29 🔗 yipdw innovation, you see
19:29 🔗 yipdw well I guess infinite scrolling already makes that possible
19:29 🔗 joepie91 hehehe
19:29 🔗 joepie91 infinite scrolling, when done properly, is good
19:30 🔗 joepie91 prerequisite for "done properly" is that it is used in an applicable usecase
19:30 🔗 joepie91 and not anywhere a scrollbar exists
19:44 🔗 Sue_ joepie91: i love you hardcore @ your bitcasa post
19:45 🔗 DFJustin !a http://igrosale.com/download/
19:45 🔗 joepie91 Sue_: :D
19:45 🔗 joepie91 I tend to be... rather direct on my blog
19:45 🔗 joepie91 :p
19:46 🔗 joepie91 the advantage of not having a reputation to protect
19:46 🔗 joepie91 you can lash out at anybody who deserves it, any time
19:46 🔗 joepie91 :D
20:20 🔗 godane SketchCow: sorry to hear you missed your flight
20:20 🔗 godane based on what i'm reading on your twitter account
20:48 🔗 godane so looks like all playstation 1 games are saved in bin/cue format :-D
20:48 🔗 joepie91 godane: ?
20:50 🔗 godane i'm downloading psx 1 games
21:06 🔗 joepie91 aha
21:06 🔗 joepie91 :P
21:09 🔗 godane underground volume 2 issue 1 has Master theater 3000 in it
21:20 🔗 godane disc 1 had only 2 import demos and then just videos
21:20 🔗 godane which is nice
21:24 🔗 danneh_ I have some old ps1/2 demo discs, will need to go through and copy them sometime
21:24 🔗 godane playing pizza hut demo cd
21:26 🔗 danneh_ remember some nice yaroze demos from those discs, they were pretty awesome
21:27 🔗 godane just know official U.S. PlayStation Magazine demos look to be all there
21:27 🔗 godane 1 thur 54
21:32 🔗 danneh_ shiny, I wonder whether Aussie PlayStation Magazine differs in any way
21:32 🔗 danneh_ or whether same content, just different label
21:36 🔗 godane they would be different i think
21:37 🔗 SketchCow Ops, please.
21:38 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: done
21:39 🔗 SketchCow Yes, I missed my flight.
21:39 🔗 SketchCow But they booked me a new one.
21:39 🔗 SketchCow It's punishing, but I am willing to take the punishment.
21:39 🔗 SketchCow Flight is 1:40am, I get in at 7am. Speech around noon, then on a plane at 7pm.
21:39 🔗 SketchCow Back at midnight.
21:40 🔗 SketchCow Hosting Internet Archive all next day.
21:40 🔗 SketchCow Wednesday: Jason Scott, RIP (1970-2014)
21:41 🔗 godane i think alot of coffee will be in order
21:42 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: sorry, not allowed to die until todo list completed
21:42 🔗 joepie91 :)
21:44 🔗 joepie91 .tw https://twitter.com/Qthrul/status/526471129632763904
21:44 🔗 botpie91 2011: @bitcasa offers unlimited backups 2014: @bitcasa offers unlimited backpedalling (@Qthrul)
21:48 🔗 joepie91 https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/2jvhd1/the_problem_with_cloud_storage_when_you_have_a/clgcrtp
21:55 🔗 Ravenloft godane you know that Jason from game-rave.com, who have the most complete collection of original ps games, are an IRC regular here on efnet
21:55 🔗 Ravenloft I usually see him in #nesdev
21:56 🔗 Ravenloft I am 100% positive that he have some discs that arent available online
21:57 🔗 godane ok
21:57 🔗 Ravenloft and if a collective effort was made to rip his entire collection, to confirm the already trusted images, and possible add to the pool
21:57 🔗 Ravenloft would be a nice preservation enterprise
21:58 🔗 Ravenloft by the way, sony did a good job on cataloguing the releases for the system themselves, specially compared to the other companies at the time
22:22 🔗 SketchCow I had (no longer do), the 8mb Playstation versions of 3-4 games.
22:22 🔗 SketchCow You know that horseshit, right
22:23 🔗 SketchCow Where Sony said the Playstation would have 8mb of memory, and then they decided a month or two before to make it 2
22:23 🔗 SketchCow Maybe it was six months. Felt short.
22:23 🔗 SketchCow (I was working at Psygnosis when this happened.)
22:23 🔗 SketchCow And Sony threw Psygnosis developers at a range of games to help them go from 8mb to 2mb versions
22:24 🔗 SketchCow In the case of The Adventures of Lomax, they ripped out 2-3 parallax backgrounds
22:24 🔗 SketchCow In the case of nightstalkers, they yanked 2 characters
22:24 🔗 SketchCow etc
22:33 🔗 danneh_ Ooh, that's shiny
22:39 🔗 Ravenloft thats an awesome piece of history
22:39 🔗 Ravenloft and fun
22:39 🔗 Ravenloft :P
22:57 🔗 joepie91 danneh_: it's only shiny when it's available on IA :)
22:57 🔗 joepie91 until then, it's dusty
22:57 🔗 joepie91 :D
22:59 🔗 danneh_ :D
23:00 🔗 danneh_ I went through some forums a while ago, downloaded sdks and some old net yaroze website backups someone had posted
23:02 🔗 * tfgbd didn't know the PS once had 8MB
23:08 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I thought it was originally supposed to have 1MB, but I can't remember where I heard that.

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